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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:37 AM

everybody's favorite horny uncle - former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi - was sentenced to a 7-year term in prison and banned from running for public office ever again.
why? because it's not illegal to have sex with a 14-17 year old girl in Italy... unless you pay her for it. so apparently that's what he did. and people say there's a problem with youth unemployment. I say more power to young girls selling their bodies to drunk world leaders!

I don't know how much you have to pay for some prime Italian girl pussy, but I hope it was worth it!
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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:39 AM

That guy was such a scumbag. Will he have to serve the whole 7? Or will he use his connections to dodge it?

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:47 AM

You know at the end of the day this guy did worse things than have sex with an adolescent prostitute. There are much more damaging things one can do than having sex with underage prostitutes (though there are certainly different degrees of 'underage'), and being a severely corrupt politician is one of them.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:07 AM

Knowing italy - he will never see the inside of a jail cel. He can appeal this verdict twice more if I recall correctly, and even if he gets convicted by Italy's equivalent of the Supreme Court - he will most likely both due to his age and the 'mildness' of the charges - spend the rest of his days under house arrest in his golden cage. If it even gets that far, that is.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:09 AM

About time this happened.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:17 AM

I'm sorry but if you're an elderly adult male and have to sleep with a girl of that age, your balls should be cut off and then you're hanged. Not a 7yr term.

So who's up for some lasagna?

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:32 AM

Expect about 10 years worth of appeal process before he even ventures near a prison.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:37 AM

Considering the stranglehold he had on the media, I must confess some shock that he did not have the power to somehow evade his downfall.
Italy is, of course, a democracy. But I was led to believe that it was a sufficiently corrupt democracy to allow a man like Berlusconi to weather the allegations against him.
For instance, didn't he make amendments to Italian law which basically made him immune from any prosecution?
When he was in power, I would have judged anything like this happening an impossibility. I still can't quite grasp how it all happened.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE (Typhus @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 16:37)
Considering the stranglehold he had on the media, I must confess some shock that he did not have the power to somehow evade his downfall.
Italy is, of course, a democracy. But I was led to believe that it was a sufficiently corrupt democracy to allow a man like Berlusconi to weather the allegations against him.
For instance, didn't he make amendments to Italian law which basically made him immune from any prosecution?
When he was in power, I would have judged anything like this happening an impossibility. I still can't quite grasp how it all happened.

I guess nobody ever had the balls or media connections to abuse the position.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE (Melchior @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 08:55)
I guess nobody ever had the balls or media connections to abuse the position.

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Sorry, I don't quite take your meaning.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:03 AM

It was about time; it's very unlikely he will enter in prison though.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:12 AM

QUOTE (Typhus @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 19:00)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 08:55)
I guess nobody ever had the balls or media connections to abuse the position.

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Sorry, I don't quite take your meaning.

Oh you meant his being prosecuted seemed impossible- not his abuse of his position. Nevermind.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 07:32)
Expect about 10 years worth of appeal process before he even ventures near a prison.

And considering his age it is very likely that he'll never set a foot inside a prison. But regardless, the fact that he was convicted is a good thing. Although liking pussy too much was probably the least of his sins.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:43 AM

QUOTE (GunWrath @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 06:17)
I'm sorry but if you're an elderly adult male and have to sleep with a girl of that age, your balls should be cut off and then you're hanged. Not a 7yr term.

f*ck that, more power to him. ABAP.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

No proofs, 12 witnesses said there was no crime, the "victim" said that she wasn't the victim of any crime, the prosecutor even asked less years. This was a moral sentence, I am disgusted by this, and I've always been against berlusconi. 7 years is ridicolous, I could sell drugs in front of the police and get less, maybe not even go to jail since I've never been arrested. To make this country work all the people that work in public institutions should be fired.
I'm already planning to emigrate to France or UK as soon as I get a degree. Even Spain. I won't pay an enormous amount of taxes for this sh*t. Young people with a degree that get 1,300 euros per month are considered "lucky". f*ck this.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE (Ascer @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:08)
No proofs, 12 witnesses said there was no crime, the "victim" said that she wasn't the victim of any crime, the prosecutor even asked less years. This was a moral sentence, I am disgusted by this, and I've always been against berlusconi. 7 years is ridicolous, I could sell drugs in front of the police and get less, maybe not even go to jail since I've never been arrested. To make this country work all the people that work in public institutions should be fired.
I'm already planning to emigrate to France or UK as soon as I get a degree. Even Spain. I won't pay an enormous amount of taxes for this sh*t. Young people with a degree that get 1,300 euros per month are considered "lucky". f*ck this.

If you're fleeing because of the corruption of your country I don't recommend you to come here to Spain. There are just corrupt politican, businessman and banker scumbags who don't pay for their crimes. Those who have prison sentences don't enter in jail and who does usually get the pardon by some politican. Even members of our current government are involved in corruption affairs. In addition, the justice disqualify judges who are internationally accredited and who try to judge and end with the corruption.
At the same time, while these f*ckers are getting richer, spending and earning millions of euros from the state coffers they try (and acomplish, thanks to many of these UE organisms such as the ECB) to lower the cages and worsen the working class conditions. The unemployment between the young people is hitting almost the 60% and what do they do? ease the leyoff and lower the salary.
I'm f*cking sick of this country.

If we want to leave the crisis we would have to clean the whole administration first.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:25)
QUOTE (Ascer @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:08)
No proofs, 12 witnesses said there was no crime, the "victim" said that she wasn't the victim of any crime, the prosecutor even asked less years. This was a moral sentence, I am disgusted by this, and I've always been against berlusconi. 7 years is ridicolous, I could sell drugs in front of the police and get less, maybe not even go to jail since I've never been arrested. To make this country work all the people that work in public institutions should be fired.
I'm already planning to emigrate to France or UK as soon as I get a degree. Even Spain. I won't pay an enormous amount of taxes for this sh*t. Young people with a degree that get 1,300 euros per month are considered "lucky". f*ck this.

If you're fleeing because of the corruption of your country I don't recommend you to come here to Spain. There are just corrupt politican, businessman and banker scumbags who don't pay for their crimes. Those who have prison sentences don't enter in jail and who does usually get the pardon by some politican. Even members of our current government are involved in corruption affairs. In addition, the justice disqualify judges who are internationally accredited and who try to judge and end with the corruption.
At the same time, while these f*ckers are getting richer, spending and earning millions of euros from the state coffers they try (and acomplish, thanks to many of these UE organisms such as the ECB) to lower the cages and worsen the working class conditions. The unemployment between the young people is hitting almost the 60% and what do they do? ease the leyoff and lower the salary.
I'm f*cking sick of this country.

If we want to leave the crisis we would have to clean the whole administration first.

The corruption is the last of the reasons, the main reason is making all the studies worth it. I've mentioned spain because there is still people that emigrate from my country to spain, expecially in barcellona and madrid and because of the weather lol.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE (Ascer @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 12:38)
QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:25)
QUOTE (Ascer @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:08)
No proofs, 12 witnesses said there was no crime, the "victim" said that she wasn't the victim of any crime, the prosecutor even asked less years. This was a moral sentence, I am disgusted by this, and I've always been against berlusconi. 7 years is ridicolous, I could sell drugs in front of the police and get less, maybe not even go to jail since I've never been arrested. To make this country work all the people that work in public institutions should be fired.
I'm already planning to emigrate to France or UK as soon as I get a degree. Even Spain. I won't pay an enormous amount of taxes for this sh*t. Young people with a degree that get 1,300 euros per month are considered "lucky". f*ck this.

If you're fleeing because of the corruption of your country I don't recommend you to come here to Spain. There are just corrupt politican, businessman and banker scumbags who don't pay for their crimes. Those who have prison sentences don't enter in jail and who does usually get the pardon by some politican. Even members of our current government are involved in corruption affairs. In addition, the justice disqualify judges who are internationally accredited and who try to judge and end with the corruption.
At the same time, while these f*ckers are getting richer, spending and earning millions of euros from the state coffers they try (and acomplish, thanks to many of these UE organisms such as the ECB) to lower the cages and worsen the working class conditions. The unemployment between the young people is hitting almost the 60% and what do they do? ease the leyoff and lower the salary.
I'm f*cking sick of this country.

If we want to leave the crisis we would have to clean the whole administration first.

The corruption is the last of the reasons, the main reason is making all the studies worth it. I've mentioned spain because there is still people that emigrate from my country to spain, expecially in barcellona and madrid and because of the weather lol.

Yeah i'm in the same situation, i've got a degree in I.T. an earn 800 a month, my uncle has a bachelor's degree and whilst living here he was earning 1100, how are you supposed to hold a family like that?

Regarding the sentence, he WILL find a positive way to get out of the mess, as always...

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 12:18 PM

QUOTE (Ascer @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:38)
QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:25)
QUOTE (Ascer @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 11:08)
No proofs, 12 witnesses said there was no crime, the "victim" said that she wasn't the victim of any crime, the prosecutor even asked less years. This was a moral sentence, I am disgusted by this, and I've always been against berlusconi. 7 years is ridicolous, I could sell drugs in front of the police and get less, maybe not even go to jail since I've never been arrested. To make this country work all the people that work in public institutions should be fired.
I'm already planning to emigrate to France or UK as soon as I get a degree. Even Spain. I won't pay an enormous amount of taxes for this sh*t. Young people with a degree that get 1,300 euros per month are considered "lucky". f*ck this.

If you're fleeing because of the corruption of your country I don't recommend you to come here to Spain. There are just corrupt politican, businessman and banker scumbags who don't pay for their crimes. Those who have prison sentences don't enter in jail and who does usually get the pardon by some politican. Even members of our current government are involved in corruption affairs. In addition, the justice disqualify judges who are internationally accredited and who try to judge and end with the corruption.
At the same time, while these f*ckers are getting richer, spending and earning millions of euros from the state coffers they try (and acomplish, thanks to many of these UE organisms such as the ECB) to lower the cages and worsen the working class conditions. The unemployment between the young people is hitting almost the 60% and what do they do? ease the leyoff and lower the salary.
I'm f*cking sick of this country.

If we want to leave the crisis we would have to clean the whole administration first.

The corruption is the last of the reasons, the main reason is making all the studies worth it. I've mentioned spain because there is still people that emigrate from my country to spain, expecially in barcellona and madrid and because of the weather lol.

It wouldn't make much sense emigrating somewhere just for the weather, less when you're fleeing from a country for monetary and job reasons. Here there's not job, the people with high degres are leaving the country. And a big part of this is related with the plundering caused by the corruption.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

I don't think he'll serve time in prison. He should have good connections to avoid imprisonment.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 01:08 PM

Was she 14 or 17?

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 01:21 PM

About time, f*ckig scumbag.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:33 PM

I hope Mario Draghi

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 16:33)
I hope Mario Draghi

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So what's Mario done that's illegal then?

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:58 PM Edited by Stephan123, 25 June 2013 - 05:02 PM.

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 17:12)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 16:33)
I hope Mario Draghi

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So what's Mario done that's illegal then?

He responsible for he ECB, which gave 9.2 billion € emergency credits to the Cypriotic Laiki bank, which was already de facto bankrupt at that time, with the purpose to help other banks and investors to withdraw all their money from the Laiki bank, while later Cypriotic people and companies lost much money, because of the compulsory charge.

http://www.faz.net/a...n-12242743.html

By bypassing the laws, through buying state bonds of Greece, Italy and Ireland from the markets and not directly from the states, which are worth over 200 billion Euros, the ECB did monetary state financing, which is forbidden.

I hope Europe finds justice and brings him into jail.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:24 PM

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I hope Europe finds justice and brings him into jail.

So, what's the criminal sanction for ECB-sponsored state financing these days? Oh, that's right, it isn't a criminal offence.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:40 PM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 00:32)
Expect about 10 years worth of appeal process before he even ventures near a prison.

QUOTE (LifeWithScissors @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 06:59)
I don't think he'll serve time in prison.

you guys are on to something...

the appeals process stared immediately.
and of course, you don't have to wait in prison during the appeals process. and of course, the appeals process will take almost 2 years in and of itself.

by the time it's over Silvio will likely never see the walls of any prison cell.
he's still publicly shamed from ever returning to government office but he doesn't care about that anymore.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 23:40)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 00:32)
Expect about 10 years worth of appeal process before he even ventures near a prison.

QUOTE (LifeWithScissors @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 06:59)
I don't think he'll serve time in prison.

you guys are on to something...

the appeals process stared immediately.
and of course, you don't have to wait in prison during the appeals process. and of course, the appeals process will take almost 2 years in and of itself.

by the time it's over Silvio will likely never see the walls of any prison cell.
he's still publicly shamed from ever returning to government office but he doesn't care about that anymore.

Even if he didn't appeal it would be the same story. According to Italian law he's simply too old and the crime is too mild (no murder or mafia business) to imprison. Besides he can still (because of the lengthy appeals process) serve in public office. So the trial and subsequent verdict is basically futile.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 23:15)
QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 23:40)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 00:32)
Expect about 10 years worth of appeal process before he even ventures near a prison.

QUOTE (LifeWithScissors @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 06:59)
I don't think he'll serve time in prison.

you guys are on to something...

the appeals process stared immediately.
and of course, you don't have to wait in prison during the appeals process. and of course, the appeals process will take almost 2 years in and of itself.

by the time it's over Silvio will likely never see the walls of any prison cell.
he's still publicly shamed from ever returning to government office but he doesn't care about that anymore.

Even if he didn't appeal it would be the same story. According to Italian law he's simply too old and the crime is too mild (no murder or mafia business) to imprison. Besides he can still (because of the lengthy appeals process) serve in public office. So the trial and subsequent verdict is basically futile.

Maybe he sets a foot in prison... maybe not, but the important thing is that he will never be seen in politics, the PDL (his political party) loses extremely credibility and leverage against other political party, congress and senate. The PD (socialist party) will be the strongest political ruling party (which is great for my country). Like Hector Lavoe once said... "Everything has it's end" (Todo tiene su final)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:12 AM

QUOTE (Distrom @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 13:21)
About time, f*ckig scumbag.

One down, there are still plenty political criminals in Venezuela that have to jail.. Starting up with Henrique Capriles




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