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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE (gwaha @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 11:59)
And very often small towns in the US are still called cities.

And if it is legally called a City, then it is legally a City and if that area is represented in game it is representing a City.

Hell Beverly Hills is confirmed to be in the game right? Beverly Hills is legally a separate city from LA, therefore if Beverly Hills is represented in the game it means the game has more then 1 city. Santa Monica is represented in the game, that's it's own separate city in real life and this it is another city in the game too. So there you go that right there brings the game up to having atleast 3 Cities.

It's not really that hard of a thing to understand, I don't see why so many people are having problems understanding it.


QUOTE (cradical @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 12:02)
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Just thought I'd leave this here for you guys.

San Diego (the 2nd biggest city in CA) is 1/3rd the size of LA. If LA is a "Major City" I wouldn't consider something next to it (for all intents & purposes) that is 1/3rd the size a "Major City".

Ok so let's use the idea of a "Major City" having a population of atleast 1 million people, ok that rules out San Diego but allows every other City in California to be in the game.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:27 PM Edited by deffpony, 26 August 2013 - 05:51 PM.

Stop with these huge pictures

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:41 PM

my god, shrink that thing you giant douche!

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:42 PM Edited by deffpony, 26 August 2013 - 06:00 PM.

This member will be dealt with

Love San Diego.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:47 PM

Shrink the damn image!

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:49 PM

It's one thing to post an image that's a few thousand pixels wide, but when you post one that is 14,000+ pixels wide you should have your IP & MAC addresses banned from the forum immediately.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:51 PM

Sorry, I've put the link in the video.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (AVLG @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 18:25)
I was always for a San Diego, I really hoped for it.. but with the fan-made map being almost confirmed in shape and size at least, unless they plan on putting it to the East or North East of LS, then I don't see it happening. sad.gif


But lets hope we get SOMETHING like a small "city"..... or large town.

There is no space east or northeast of Los Santos either. Even in one skydive scene (with car) mappers from the mapping thread were still able to see the coast line northeast of Los Santos. The only space for another town is west of Mount Josiah next to the military base.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (gwaha @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 18:02)
QUOTE (AVLG @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 18:25)
I was always for a San Diego, I really hoped for it.. but with the fan-made map being almost confirmed in shape and size at least, unless they plan on putting it to the East or North East of LS, then I don't see it happening. sad.gif


But lets hope we get SOMETHING like a small "city"..... or large town.

There is no space east or northeast of Los Santos either. Even in one skydive scene (with car) mappers from the mapping thread were still able to see the coast line northeast of Los Santos. The only space for another town is west of Mount Josiah next to the military base.

i don't think you can see the coast line in that pic, that's a complete guess on there part, or rather rough interpretation.
It seems like the N & NE are the least seen parts.

Though anything major we haven't seen has prob got to be on a seperate island...
...or just isn't there

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:52 PM Edited by gmcb007, 26 August 2013 - 07:05 PM.

I'm still pretty curious about Pala Springs wether it's just a spoof of Palm Springs aerial tramway and not of the actual city of Palm Springs.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (gmcb007 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 18:52)
I'm still pretty curious about Pala Springs wether it's just a spoof of Palm Springs aerial tramway and not of the actual city of Palm Springs.

excellent point, i forgot about that part.
Prob just the tram, hopin for the latter though

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:20 PM

Random Thought: Map is bigger then we think, however it appears smaller in pictures/vids because the pictures/vids are taken from a version of the map that has been intentionally trimmed back to further feed this type of discussion/hype/debate. Meaning what looks like it could be coastline now is actually just a fake coastline created by R* cutting off part of the map to try and make it appear smaller then it is pre-release.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Fisha695 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 20:20)
Random Thought: Map is bigger then we think, however it appears smaller in pictures/vids because the pictures/vids are taken from a version of the map that has been intentionally trimmed back to further feed this type of discussion/hype/debate. Meaning what looks like it could be coastline now is actually just a fake coastline created by R* cutting off part of the map to try and make it appear smaller then it is pre-release.

Interesting, but why then does the achievement icon look so close to the fan-made map?

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (cradical @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 16:02)
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Just thought I'd leave this here for you guys.

That statement is intentionally misleading. What about outside of Los Santos and BLaine County? We already know north yankton is in the game which proves there is more than LS and Blaine county.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:58 PM

Finally, If people still think there is a BIG city out there, just shut up.

The lastest quote from R* witch is right above me specificly says that there is no other BIG city.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:00 PM Edited by natethegreatforlife, 26 August 2013 - 09:04 PM.

disregard this post.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 20:58)
Finally, If people still think there is a BIG city out there, just shut up.

The lastest quote from R* witch is right above me specificly says that there is no other BIG city.

No, it says there is no other city IN BLAINE COUNTY.

And north yankton is not in Blaine County.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE (agent00729 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:04)
QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 20:58)
Finally, If people still think there is a BIG city out there, just shut up.

The lastest quote from R* witch is right above me specificly says that there is no other BIG city.

No, it says there is no other city IN BLAINE COUNTY.

And north yankton is not in Blaine County.

Just stop it already. There is no other big city, North yankton is a part of the map.

The end.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

you got 20 days to find out

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:05)
QUOTE (agent00729 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:04)
QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 20:58)
Finally, If people still think there is a BIG city out there, just shut up.

The lastest quote from R* witch is right above me specificly says that there is no other BIG city.

No, it says there is no other city IN BLAINE COUNTY.

And north yankton is not in Blaine County.

Just stop it already. There is no other big city, North yankton is a part of the map.

The end.

The only thing that can be deduced from that statement is that a part of the map is made up of Los Santos and Blaine County, and that within that area, Los Santos is the main city.

What I'm trying to say is that this statement might not be telling us everything, and that there are still "whole other chunks of map" (just ask leslie Benzies)

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (agent00729 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:10)
QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:05)
QUOTE (agent00729 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:04)
QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 20:58)
Finally, If people still think there is a BIG city out there, just shut up.

The lastest quote from R* witch is right above me specificly says that there is no other BIG city.

No, it says there is no other city IN BLAINE COUNTY.

And north yankton is not in Blaine County.

Just stop it already. There is no other big city, North yankton is a part of the map.

The end.

The only thing that can be deduced from that statement is that a part of the map is made up of Los Santos and Blaine County, and that within that area, Los Santos is the main city.

What I'm trying to say is that this statement might not be telling us everything, and that there are still "whole other chunks of map" (just ask leslie Benzies)

Well, for me it seems that R* are counting North yankton as a part of Baine county, and not a whole part of the map itself.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:16 PM

I can't wait for all the "THERE's NO OTHER CITIES! THIS GAME SUCKS! F*** C*CKSTAR!" rage posts come September 17th.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:17 PM

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The only thing that can be deduced from that statement is that a part of the map is made up of Los Santos and Blaine County, and that within that area, Los Santos is the main city.

What I'm trying to say is that this statement might not be telling us everything, and that there are still "whole other chunks of map" (just ask leslie Benzies)

This was said when referring to a mission area CVG saw in the GTA Online preview, NOT the whole game.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Happy_Go_Lucky @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:16)
I can't wait for all the "THERE's NO OTHER CITIES! THIS GAME SUCKS! F*** C*CKSTAR!" rage posts come September 17th.

To be honest, only the stupid people will be dissapointed.

People that can think straight knew all along that R* wasn't ''Hiding'' another city somewhere.

They made statemants saying Los santos and its surrounding areas and still people think theres another city out there.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:24 PM Edited by gwaha, 26 August 2013 - 09:30 PM.

QUOTE (Fisha695 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 22:20)
Random Thought: Map is bigger then we think, however it appears smaller in pictures/vids because the pictures/vids are taken from a version of the map that has been intentionally trimmed back to further feed this type of discussion/hype/debate. Meaning what looks like it could be coastline now is actually just a fake coastline created by R* cutting off part of the map to try and make it appear smaller then it is pre-release.

Yea, not likely. It would be a huge waste of resources to do anything like that. I really doubt Rockstar is remotely that focused on what some people may or not try to figure out from the media released.

@Cradical

Agent has been made aware of that many times but can't be convinced. Some people just want to believe in other cities no matter what.

I am counting on it that if North Yankton is not a part of the current map it simply won't be that big. It most certainly doesn't sound like it will fleshed out like Los Santos and Blaine County with it seemingly being about Michael's former home.I can't see him wanting to go back considering he is in a witness protection program. So it is probably only used for one mission.

Edit:

Pala Springs. I am afraid it may not be that big. If the aerial tramway we have seen is indeed Pala Springs Aerial Tramway it just doesn't seem there is an actual town. I think the base station of the tramway can be seen in the GTA Online trailer and maybe a few houses at most in the westernmost part (north side) of Chiliad but it is hard to see much at all.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:37 PM

Lol are you serious?

The statement says "The WORLD of GTA V is made up of... Los Santos and the surrounding countryside of Blaine County..." and small towns and areas within that area, how is that misleading or blurry in any way? It doesn't say "most", or "mainly". It says the whole world of the game is made up of just those things.

You people still hoping they're hiding San Diego or some sh*t in their back pocket are goddamn maniacs.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE (AllenKS @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 21:37)
Lol are you serious?

The statement says "The WORLD of GTA V is made up of... Los Santos and the surrounding countryside of Blaine County..." and small towns and areas within that area, how is that misleading or blurry in any way? It doesn't say "most", or "mainly". It says the whole world of the game is made up of just those things.

You people still hoping they're hiding San Diego or some sh*t in their back pocket are goddamn maniacs.

This so much.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:12 PM

QUOTE (cradical @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 16:28)
QUOTE (Fisha695 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 20:20)
Random Thought: Map is bigger then we think, however it appears smaller in pictures/vids because the pictures/vids are taken from a version of the map that has been intentionally trimmed back to further feed this type of discussion/hype/debate. Meaning what looks like it could be coastline now is actually just a fake coastline created by R* cutting off part of the map to try and make it appear smaller then it is pre-release.

Interesting, but why then does the achievement icon look so close to the fan-made map?

For the same reason there is an achievement in IV named "Midnight Club" which is a game that doesn't take place in the GTA Universe at all. Because it can.


QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 16:58)
Finally, If people still think there is a BIG city out there, just shut up.
The lastest quote from R* witch is right above me specificly says that there is no other BIG city.

Actually it says "nothing that would qualify as another major city." A Big City is not a Major City nor is a Small or Medium sized City. Anaheim, Long Beach, and those kind of places are all Small Cities (much like Beverly Hills is actually legally a small city run by it's own city council and it is represented in the game therefore there is another city in the game besides LS), San Francisco & Vegas are rather medium sized cities while San Diego is a big city. Those are the main cities that people think will be in the game as an unannounced city and non of them come anywhere close to being classified as a Major City especially when LA is the benchmark for Major City.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:18 PM

Just because we see a huge airport and airliner doesn't mean multiply cities. GTA 4 had an airport and airliners flying around and we only had one city to use.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE (Fisha695 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 22:12)
QUOTE (cradical @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 16:28)
QUOTE (Fisha695 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 20:20)
Random Thought: Map is bigger then we think, however it appears smaller in pictures/vids because the pictures/vids are taken from a version of the map that has been intentionally trimmed back to further feed this type of discussion/hype/debate. Meaning what looks like it could be coastline now is actually just a fake coastline created by R* cutting off part of the map to try and make it appear smaller then it is pre-release.

Interesting, but why then does the achievement icon look so close to the fan-made map?

For the same reason there is an achievement in IV named "Midnight Club" which is a game that doesn't take place in the GTA Universe at all. Because it can.


QUOTE (japse123 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 16:58)
Finally, If people still think there is a BIG city out there, just shut up.
The lastest quote from R* witch is right above me specificly says that there is no other BIG city.

Actually it says "nothing that would qualify as another major city." A Big City is not a Major City nor is a Small or Medium sized City. Anaheim, Long Beach, and those kind of places are all Small Cities (much like Beverly Hills is actually legally a small city run by it's own city council and it is represented in the game therefore there is another city in the game besides LS), San Francisco & Vegas are rather medium sized cities while San Diego is a big city. Those are the main cities that people think will be in the game as an unannounced city and non of them come anywhere close to being classified as a Major City especially when LA is the benchmark for Major City.

We all WANT there to be another city but lets face facts, there isn't. Rockstar has explicitly stated that now. It might be time to accept that and appreciate the map they HAVE created.




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