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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:21 AM

Well, something that has always bugged me is the change of the Chrysler 300M to the 300C. I know the 300C has a refined specs in comparison with the 300M, which failed in suspension (what I've heard) but that body style? It looks like a friggin tank (even if I like the old boxy body american cars). In the last years they have slightly improved it, but I'd stick to the old aerodynamic bodywork style of the 300M.

In my opinion, if they would have stuck to the 300m bodywork with the LHS Platform and improved the vehicle specs (and with the time, of course, the lines and details such as the tail lights, which looked sort of cheap in the old 300, though keeping that aerodynamic look), now there would be an amazingly beautiful and modern looking car.

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What do you think about it? which would you choose?

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:58 AM

I prefer the 300C. Never really liked the 300m and its bigger brothers, the Concorde and LHS. I like the clean and sharp lines of the 300C over the typical 90's round shapes.

Also, this is damn sexy.
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Prefer the second gen 300c over the first gen.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:20 AM

Is this some sort of joke.
The 300m looks boring. I never would of bought a C if it still looked like the M.

Everyone I know of that has a C likes them because of the look and wouldn't concider one looking like the M even with the better engines and suspensions or whatever.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE (Ben73 @ Tuesday, Jun 4 2013, 08:20)
Is this some sort of joke.
The 300m looks boring. I never would of bought a C if it still looked like the M.

Everyone I know of that has a C likes them because of the look and wouldn't concider one looking like the M even with the better engines and suspensions or whatever.

Well, the 1st gen C doesn't look neither very fun, looks like a dull business man car... though like I said they have improved the C in the last years, in my opinion.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:40 AM

300C all the way, it's the only one (of the two) with character.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

Are you kidding me? 300C hands down. It stands out in traffic (here at least) and it looks quite aggressive. Where as the 300M is an anonymous-looking boring sedan.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 11:22 AM

The 300C has gained a nickname in some EU countries. We call it "The Bunker".
The 300M was so unpopular, no one gives a sh*t about it lol.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 12:11 PM

They didn't even bother to bring the 300M to Australia because they knew no one would buy it.

I don't think the 300c Looks like a boring businessmans car. Complete opposite actually. Especially compared to the 300M. Looks like the type of car a 50 year old women who doesn't care about cars would buy.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:21 PM

I have no experience of the 300m, but I detest the 300c. If I wanted to buy a 10 year old Mercedes E-class chassis with all the associated build quality issues, I would buy a Mercedes.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:27 PM

As some of you might know im more of an italian car guy

I rather go for the Lancia Thema... even though its justa diffrent badge..
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But i always loved the 300C, specialy the estate version... oh the Dodge magnum is better... oh man dont get me going sad.gif lol

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:54 PM

Technical side apart, the looks are retroish and show the best things about the well known american design. My neighbour has a black estate version, all the extras also, and nice 20 inch rims. A real gangster car...but i guess gangster isnt far said about him.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 4 2013, 13:21)
I have no experience of the 300m, but I detest the 300c. If I wanted to buy a 10 year old Mercedes E-class chassis with all the associated build quality issues, I would buy a Mercedes.

I wish you could get the Mercs with the Chysler's motors. The 5.7 and the 6.1 are both gems. Probably considerably cheaper to get big power out of and work on than the Merc motors as well. That's the main thing the LX cars ever really had going from them. Though at a time when American cars were in a FWD crisis, they were a breath of fresh air back then.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (Lurch @ Tuesday, Jun 4 2013, 16:20)
Though at a time when American cars were in a FWD crisis

They still are in a FWD crisis. Ford doesn't have a RWD sedan(could have brought the falcon over, but nooooooooooooooo), and Chevy just got the SS(stupid name btw and may be slightly too expensive for the masses).

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That's the main thing the LX cars ever really had going from them.

Oh and the fact that they all look better then what Mercedes has built in recent years.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:40 AM

300C is so much better, hands down. The 300M is just some boring sedan. The 300C is an aggressive-looking beast that comes available with a hemi V8.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE (The General @ Tuesday, Jun 4 2013, 22:00)
QUOTE (Lurch @ Tuesday, Jun 4 2013, 16:20)
Though at a time when American cars were in a FWD crisis

They still are in a FWD crisis. Ford doesn't have a RWD sedan(could have brought the falcon over, but nooooooooooooooo), and Chevy just got the SS(stupid name btw and may be slightly too expensive for the masses).

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That's the main thing the LX cars ever really had going from them.

Oh and the fact that they all look better then what Mercedes has built in recent years.

SS means Supert Sport, you know?

Well, seems I'm the only fan around here of the Chrysler LHS platform tounge.gif

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:03 PM Edited by The General, 05 June 2013 - 08:06 PM.

QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 02:58)
SS means Supert Sport, you know?


Yes, I know. But it's always been a performance package, not a stand alone car. IE Impala SS or Silverado SS, not just SS. The could have brought back the Caprice or the Chevelle or something, but they decided to use a performance package...

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (The General @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 20:03)
QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 02:58)
SS means Supert Sport, you know?


Yes, I know. But it's always been a performance package, not a stand alone car. IE Impala SS or Silverado SS, not just SS. The could have brought back the Caprice or the Chevelle or something, but they decided to use a performance package...

Personally I don't really care about the name of the car, but for how it is another rebadged aussie car introduced in the American market. In fact I prefer that they call it Chevy SS than Chevelle. Anyway, I read somewhere that if I remember well by 2015 they would be redesigning it from scratch, instead of using another australian model again. Wish Pontiac hadn't disappeared and continue with the production of cars like the Grand Prix, instead of using rebadged foreign cars confused.gif

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 17:09)
Wish Pontiac hadn't disappeared and continue with the production of cars like the Grand Prix, instead of using rebadged foreign cars confused.gif

Wait, you liked the Grand Prix? And Pontiac made sh*t cars for years, and the only good ones where the rebadged "foreign" ones.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:03 AM

The Grand Prix looks pretty damn good

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:14 AM

QUOTE (Chris CJ Jakobsson @ Thursday, Jun 6 2013, 00:03)
The Grand Prix looks pretty damn good

Indeed. Only if they had polished it at least to face up the General Motors bankruptcy...

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:33 AM Edited by cold blooded, 20 June 2013 - 05:02 AM.

QUOTE (The General @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 16:03)
QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 02:58)
SS means Supert Sport, you know?


They could have brought back the Caprice or the Chevelle or something, but they decided to use a performance package...

they did bring back the caprice albeit it may never exist as anything more than a police/severe duty package, and it may just be a re-badged/re-skinned Holden... but it could be bought by non purchasing agents (civilians), and comes with a 6.0L.

although i really like GM, i think they dropped the ball big time when they brought back that pile of sh*t they call the camaro... they could have scored big if they revived the chevelle name with an homage to the 1970 SS. but... they would never do that... why would they ever threaten the superiority of their precious corvette.

oh and yeah... 300C all the way

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 05:55 PM

300C is bland now, they're everywhere. Couple weeks back I saw a 300M with what appeared to be factory chrome 19s. It stood out. A lot.

Go figure.

And LOL at the new Thema: a RWD American car not available with a V8 lol.gif

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:15 PM

Latest 300c is smoking hot.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE (cold blooded @ Thursday, Jun 6 2013, 07:33)
QUOTE (The General @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 16:03)
QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 02:58)
SS means Supert Sport, you know?


They could have brought back the Caprice or the Chevelle or something, but they decided to use a performance package...

they did bring back the caprice albeit it may never exist as anything more than a police/severe duty package, and it may just be a re-badged/re-skinned Cadillac... but it could be bought by non purchasing agents (civilians), and comes with a 6.0L.

although i really like GM, i think they dropped the ball big time when they brought back that pile of sh*t they call the camaro... they could have scored big if they revived the chevelle name with an homage to the 1970 SS. but... they would never do that... why would they ever threaten the superiority of their precious corvette.

oh and yeah... 300C all the way

Isn't the Chevy Caprice nothing but and Australian Holden which has been re-badged and exported to the USA.

To me the Caprice is boring business mans car which is seen every where, while the 300c is something a little more exotic and interesting.

All this opinion seams to depend on where you live.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:26 AM

QUOTE (Ben73 @ Sunday, Jun 16 2013, 06:07)
QUOTE (cold blooded @ Thursday, Jun 6 2013, 07:33)
QUOTE (The General @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 16:03)
QUOTE (RoadRunner71 @ Wednesday, Jun 5 2013, 02:58)
SS means Supert Sport, you know?


They could have brought back the Caprice or the Chevelle or something, but they decided to use a performance package...

they did bring back the caprice albeit it may never exist as anything more than a police/severe duty package, and it may just be a re-badged/re-skinned Cadillac... but it could be bought by non purchasing agents (civilians), and comes with a 6.0L.

although i really like GM, i think they dropped the ball big time when they brought back that pile of sh*t they call the camaro... they could have scored big if they revived the chevelle name with an homage to the 1970 SS. but... they would never do that... why would they ever threaten the superiority of their precious corvette.

oh and yeah... 300C all the way

Isn't the Chevy Caprice nothing but and Australian Holden which has been re-badged and exported to the USA.

To me the Caprice is boring business mans car which is seen every where, while the 300c is something a little more exotic and interesting.

All this opinion seams to depend on where you live.

yes you are correct, edited. but to be fair the Cadillac cts-v (which was the Cadillac i had in mind) also has Australian origins. GM stopped selling the caprice in the us in 1996, this is the first sedan sold in the us with the caprice badge in 17 years.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:37 AM

I like the 300C. However, it was cool in 2003, when it was brand new. Now, it is simply another car that everyone has seen and owned, and is just another obscure car I pay no more attention to when driving past. The M looks boring as hell. Just another generic ugly American sedan. What I want to know, is how they managed to go from the M to the C in one model year. Who in the design department came up with such a radical, different design, and decided to keep the 300 in the name? They are nothing alike!


And on the topic of that new Caprice, I believe they have started to offer it in limited numbers to the civilian market here in the US. I believe I've only seen one or two, but they are out there...

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE (fatal1ty619 @ Thursday, Jun 20 2013, 00:37)
And on the topic of that new Caprice, I believe they have started to offer it in limited numbers to the civilian market here in the US. I believe I've only seen one or two, but they are out there...

There are a few, since a few dealers decided to order some. But GM has put a stop to that.
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Posted 22 June 2013 - 01:01 AM

I really don't like the 300s at all so I would prefer to have neither. But if i had to choose between the two I would take the 300c. Looks a bit more luxurious than the 300m.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (visionist @ Saturday, Jun 15 2013, 17:55)
300C is bland now, they're everywhere. Couple weeks back I saw a 300M with what appeared to be factory chrome 19s. It stood out. A lot.

Go figure.

And LOL at the new Thema: a RWD American car not available with a V8  lol.gif

Whats wrong with the camaro? i personally would rather have the 98-2002 gen T/A (similar to camaro but much sexier) but the new one is fine.


I wish they would've killed Buick instead of Pontiac.

edit: quoted wrong guy


I saw saw someone mention the new 300c and a lack of V8, both gen 1 and gen 2 have V8/Hemi power.

Also, the 300c isn't anything new, it has been around on and off for ages.

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