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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

I am a republican who voted for Mitt Romney last november but I am sick of these ultra conservatives who are taking over the party and making all the other moderates like myself look bad. Now all they talk about is cutting spending while all the democrats do is talk about how they need more of our tax dollars to spend and waste on stupid things and pork filled bills. They have both been failing our country for a long time and I think a rise of a third party like the independents or hell even the libertarians would be a great thing for the USA. Anyone agree? I am not trying to start a huge inpolite conversation here so please be respectful to others who have a different opinion than you>

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:07 PM

With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:10)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

I don't think you understand what pork is. It isn't "spending for its own sake" it's when the federal government sponsors a local project. Nothing wrong with it, and either way it's hardly a contentious issue.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:18 PM

You think you've got it bad?

Try living in the UK. The Conservatives, Labour, and the Liberal Democrats are fundamentally mirror images of each other.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:25 PM

QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:14)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:10)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

I don't think you understand what pork is. It isn't "spending for its own sake" it's when the federal government sponsors a local project. Nothing wrong with it, and either way it's hardly a contentious issue.

no I do understand and believe my I understand what you are saying and of course we have to fund ourselves but there can be wasteful examples of this. Let me list a few
-$1.8 million on a study to find out why pigs smell. Really?

-$219,000 to teach college students how to watch TV.

-$1 million to study potatoes


And I think it is a contentious issue because a fair amount of the american people have a negative view on pork spending.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:26 PM

I'm a independent that doesn't give a f*ck, because I no longer care about 90% of the worlds laws and population! Seriously that's how I feel.

And f*ck all those gun control cock suckers.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 12:14)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:10)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

I don't think you understand what pork is. It isn't "spending for its own sake" it's when the federal government sponsors a local project. Nothing wrong with it, and either way it's hardly a contentious issue.

I thought you were talking about meat from a pig. Now that I really don't understand why there's so much offense to.

Also, both political parties? That's pretty insightful right there. There's more like what, 7, 9? *shrugs*


I think the problem with any kind of politics and "parties" is that most people don't understand what the hell the most popular parties are even about. Ask any lay person what the difference between a Republican and Democrat is, and they can't tell you, yet it seems like these two parties who no one really knows any thing about are the two most popular.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (SagaciousKJB @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:32)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 12:14)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:10)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

I don't think you understand what pork is. It isn't "spending for its own sake" it's when the federal government sponsors a local project. Nothing wrong with it, and either way it's hardly a contentious issue.

I thought you were talking about meat from a pig. Now that I really don't understand why there's so much offense to.

Also, both political parties? That's pretty insightful right there. There's more like what, 7, 9? *shrugs*


I think the problem with any kind of politics and "parties" is that most people don't understand what the hell the most popular parties are even about. Ask any lay person what the difference between a Republican and Democrat is, and they can't tell you, yet it seems like these two parties who no one really knows any thing about are the two most popular.

yeah i know but i was talking about the main ones here in the states so that would be the republicans and the democrats. Sorry. confused.gif

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:38 PM

We have the same problem in the UK where all the politicians are lieing, corrupt, scumbags

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:25)
-$1.8 million on a study to find out why pigs smell. Really?

-$219,000 to teach college students how to watch TV.

-$1 million to study potatoes

Give me some context...

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:45)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:25)
-$1.8 million on a study to find out why pigs smell. Really?

-$219,000 to teach college students how to watch TV.

-$1 million to study potatoes

Give me some context...

what do you mean that pretty much speaks for itself.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (twinkiller @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 18:59)
I am a republican who voted for Mitt Romney last november but I am sick of these ultra conservatives who are taking over the party and making all the other moderates like myself look bad. Now all they talk about is cutting spending while all the democrats do is talk about how they need more of our tax dollars to spend and waste on stupid things and pork filled bills. They have both been failing our country for a long time and I think a rise of a third party like the independents or hell even the libertarians would be a great thing for the USA. Anyone agree? I am not trying to start a huge inpolite conversation here so please be respectful to others who have a different opinion than you>

Sound off below! biggrin.gif

I'm moving more toward the libertarian party. I hate the Democrats pro socialist stance and I hate how most republicans take a religious view on social issues. I'm generally liberal on social issues like gay rights, abortion etc. but I'm conservative on fiscal and economic issues. The libertarian party seems to suit my views the best. Since all democrats seem to want to do is expand the welfare state, undermine our capitalistic economy and take even more money from decent hardworking people and hand it out to the sociatal leeches. Not to mention their desire to disarm the populace when all the evidence says not to. And the republicans just want to shove the bible down out throats and construct out social policy based on a fictional book written Eons ago.

I'm gonna vote for Rand Paul in 2016 though regardless of what ticket he runs on.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:02 PM

QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:55)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:45)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:25)
-$1.8 million on a study to find out why pigs smell. Really?

-$219,000 to teach college students how to watch TV.

-$1 million to study potatoes

Give me some context...

what do you mean that pretty much speaks for itself.

No, they don't. You didn't give me any context. A study "into potatoes" that could mean anything. Link me to where you got this information.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:04 PM

lilweasel? Where are you?!?

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

QUOTE (gtamann123 @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:56)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 18:59)
I am a republican who voted for Mitt Romney last november but I am sick of these ultra conservatives who are taking over the party and making all the other moderates like myself look bad. Now all they talk about is cutting spending while all the democrats do is talk about how they need more of our tax dollars to spend and waste on stupid things and pork filled bills. They have both been failing our country for a long time and I think a rise of a third party like the independents or hell even the libertarians would be a great thing for the USA.  Anyone agree? I am not trying to start a huge inpolite conversation here so please be respectful to others who have a different opinion than you>

Sound off below! biggrin.gif

I'm moving more toward the libertarian party. I hate the Democrats pro socialist stance and I hate how most republicans take a religious view on social issues. I'm generally liberal on social issues like gay rights, abortion etc. but I'm conservative on fiscal and economic issues. The libertarian party seems to suit my views the best. Since all democrats seem to want to do is expand the welfare state, undermine our capitalistic economy and take even more money from decent hardworking people and hand it out to the sociatal leeches. Not to mention their desire to disarm the populace when all the evidence says not to. And the republicans just want to shove the bible down out throats and construct out social policy based on a fictional book written Eons ago.

I'm gonna vote for Rand Paul in 2016 though regardless of what ticket he runs on.

I agree with what you said 100% my friend. That is exactly how I feel. If I could give you a hug i would lol.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:07 PM

lmao he's actually called "Rand Paul"? I wonder who he's named after. sigh.gif

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 11:14)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:10)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

I don't think you understand what pork is. It isn't "spending for its own sake" it's when the federal government sponsors a local project. Nothing wrong with it, and either way it's hardly a contentious issue.

It's usually used in a derogatory context to mean wasteful or unnecessary spending. Just take a look at some of these. It's like misappropriation minus any negative impact. Pork is usually benign, but wasteful.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (Adler @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 11:14)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:10)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

I don't think you understand what pork is. It isn't "spending for its own sake" it's when the federal government sponsors a local project. Nothing wrong with it, and either way it's hardly a contentious issue.

It's usually used in a derogatory context to mean wasteful or unnecessary spending. Just take a look at some of these. It's like misappropriation minus any negative impact. Pork is usually benign, but wasteful.

thank you sir you know what I mean.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:31 PM

Both sides are only in it for their own self interest. They don't care for the rest of us, and they sure as hell don't care what happens to the country as long as they get what they want. They have all become an elitist group of kings while we became mere peasants for them to exploit for their own personal gain.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (gtamann123)
Since all democrats seem to want to do is expand the welfare state, undermine our capitalistic economy and take even more money from decent hardworking people and hand it out to the sociatal leeches.

QUOTE (gtamann123)
I'm moving more toward the libertarian party.


Good move. icon14.gif

Also guys, don't mind Melchior. He's just another far left wacko.

QUOTE (018361)
Both sides are only in it for their own self interest. They don't care for the rest of us, and they sure as hell don't care what happens to the country as long as they get what they want. They have all become an elitist group of kings while we became mere peasants for them to exploit for their own personal gain.


Isn't that how governments/monarchies have always operated?

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:55 AM

QUOTE (Melchior @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 06:07)
lmao he's actually called "Rand Paul"? I wonder who he's named after. sigh.gif

Why has it taken me this long to see the connection? That's actually hilarious that he'd name his son after... You know...

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:04 AM

QUOTE (Stefche @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 21:55)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 06:07)
lmao he's actually called "Rand Paul"? I wonder who he's named after. sigh.gif

Why has it taken me this long to see the connection? That's actually hilarious that he'd name his son after... You know...

Wait what, you guys realize he's Ron Paul's son right? Not somebody that named their kid after Ron Paul lol xD



OT: I agree, watching political debates is like watching a fight between a giant douche and turd sandwich. Doesn't matter who you vote for...

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:12 AM

Oh, I always knew he was Ron Paul's son; I just noticed now that his son's first name is shared with Ayn Rand's surname. sigh.gif

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:14 AM

QUOTE (Stefche @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 22:12)
Oh, I always knew he was Ron Paul's son; I just noticed now that his son's first name is shared with Ayn Rand's surname. sigh.gif

First time I saw the name Rand Paul I thought it was just someone making fun of Ron Paul lol


What a silly name to name your child lol

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:46 AM

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 07:04)
Wait what, you guys realize he's Ron Paul's son right? Not somebody that named their kid after Ron Paul lol xD

You don't appear to know who Ayn Rand is.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:48 AM

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What a silly name to name your child lol

it could always be worse...
imagine if you were stuck with the name Reince f*ckin' Priebus.

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you can't make this sh*t up.
http://en.wikipedia..../Reince_Priebus

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:19 AM

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:21 AM

In a nutshell. . .


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:19 AM

QUOTE (Adler @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 06:11)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 11:14)
QUOTE (twinkiller @ Monday, Apr 8 2013, 05:10)
QUOTE (Melchior @ Sunday, Apr 7 2013, 19:07)
With all the issues in the world, why is pork so offensive?

By pork I mean wasteful govt spending and all these other things that these politicians put into these bills that have nothing to do with what they are trying to pass.

I don't think you understand what pork is. It isn't "spending for its own sake" it's when the federal government sponsors a local project. Nothing wrong with it, and either way it's hardly a contentious issue.

It's usually used in a derogatory context to mean wasteful or unnecessary spending. Just take a look at some of these. It's like misappropriation minus any negative impact. Pork is usually benign, but wasteful.

I know what pork is, but research funding isn't pork. Pork is when the federal government funds local projects.

Also I see nothing wrong with any of that research funding.




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