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#421

Posted 01 November 2013 - 09:56 AM

@Reaper Madness

Right, another four pages of contributions overnight, and I'm still no closer to understanding how there's any societal justification for your comments. Instead of getting drawn out on the questions of what you have and haven't said (which seems to be a favourite topic of yours- worth noting I'm not the only person in this thread whose claimed that your argument has so far had the form of "this is what I believe, and I'm right. You're white so you don't get any say on whether I'm right, plus your opinions are invalid because you're the problem" which, let's be frank, is stupid), let's address your theory in isolation, shall we.
 
I think I've grasped the basic principle of your response, though- so, through the muddy heap of ad hominem attacks and rambling diatribes, your claim is basically that blacks should cooperate primarily with blacks in economic matters, in both production and expenditure, because you resent the fact that the majority of the US economy is, rather like the majority of the US population, white-dominated.
 
There are a few glaring problems with this theory, and with some of the examples you use to furnish it, which lead me to conclude that far from being in a position to claim that only you have any right to speak on the issue, and anyone of another racial group does not, you're own poor comprehension of basic economic theory means you are in no position to quibble with people who address your hypotheses:
 
1) Modern, general economic theories are inclusionist by and large- and this doesn't just extend to the US in isolation but to external supply coming from abroad. A huge proportion of the US economy is driven by overseas imports- that's what keeps prices at a lower level that can possibly be achieved using domestic labour, goods and services alone. A hypothetical economic model of ethnic minorities serving ethnic minorities in the US is going to be economically uncompetitive because the potential pool of human resources- not just working hours but expertise, access to particular skillsets and the industrial complex. The net result of this economic model would be a sub-macro-economy in which prices would in all probability be higher. I doubt that many of the hypothetical consumers in this economy would put getting "one up on the man", as it were, above substantive increases in cost- especially given that we're generally talking about a sector of society which sees a larger proportion of low-income individuals and households. It's not economically sustainable.
 
2) Because of 1), a game theory analysis of the economic relationship between whites and blacks in the US would likely conclude that the whole debacle would be negative-sum for the ethnically exclusionary economic minority. The net economic productivity of the macroeconomic model would probably decline, so you'd see a real terms negative-sum for all members of society, but the comparative losses to ethnic minorities involved in the exclusionary system would be higher for all the reasons I've outlined above. As I've already said, very few people would put priding their own racial heritage above general economic progression- so the idea's basically a non-starter from an objective, external point of view that focuses largely on societal economic trends.
 
3) Your use of historical examples, whilst certainly interesting and enlightening, doesn't really provide much of a defence for these views given that economic realities one hundred years ago were so different than today. Globalised economics have spread the consumer and producer base much further than the borders of the United States and in order for your hypothetical exclusionary sub-macro-economy to function you'd have to effectively roll back globalisation, which is next to impossible because the costs of doing so would outstrip any substantive, empirical benefit.
 
4) Your use of Chinatown as an example of a system of the same or similar nature ignores fundamental supply and demand economics. You effectively make the claim that, because Asian immigrants and 1st/2nd/3rd/4th-gereration native residents can create successful isolated microeconomic entities, that other ethnic minority groups could- nay, should, too. This seems to entirely ignore the fact that these microeconomies are driven by sectoral supply and demand not present in the larger social economy. The reason Chinatowns exist is because some of the needs- cultural, economic, culinary, social ect- of these people aren't currently met by the wider social economy, which is of course driven by the demand of the majority of society. The average consumer has no real need to purchase most of the products and services supplied by these microeconomies, hence why they're not supplied by the wider macroeconomy- and therefore the consumer base is driven by demand amongst particular ethnic groups for goods and services not otherwise catered for. You've fallaciously implied that these economies compete directly with other microeconomies when in reality they lack direct competition due to the lack of supply and demand. Similarly, these microeconomnies are not exclusionary, and nor are the businesses they supply directly or indirectly.

I'm not sure why people are so offended by his proposal. The "Buy Black" movement is a fundamentally good idea. You can't deracialise society if you don't do something about the massive economic disadvantage blacks face as individuals, and the under-servicing their neighbourhoods face.


That's not quite what we've got here, though. I don't resent the principle of people favouritising supply and purchase based on their own arbitrary views on the issue- that's free market economics through and through, and no different in principle to encouraging domestic supply over foreign through the use of tariffs et cetera- although how long such an approach is going to be workable due to the increasing reach of globalised economics I don't know. But that's not really the issue; it's none of my concern whether the decisions people make in terms of the operation of their business model are arbitrary or rational- although I will use that as the metric to assess whether I consider investing in their goods and services.

No, what we have here is a demand for an insular, centralised, discriminatory, imposing and broad-ranging sub-macro-economy driven not by basic economic principles of supply and demand but by racial segregation, at a time when economies are by and large becoming less centralised, less insular, more inclusionist and more heterologous. Aside from all else, I think it's utterly infeasible and will achieve exactly the oppose of the aims you've outlined in your response.

Like you, I see no problem in principle with a movement which economically supports marginalised elements of society. But such a movement has to be consumer-driven and can only exist, and exist to the extent, that demand is present. Racial blackmail can't be used as a tool to coerce people into making negative-sum economic decisions.
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#422

Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:13 AM Edited by Melchior, 01 November 2013 - 11:14 AM.

It's not so much about African-Americans starting their own separate, insular economy though. It's about using the power African-Americans have as consumers to increase the economic standing of their neighbourhoods. The idea isn't that black people living in a suburb in Connecticut should seek out other black people to buy from. It's that businesses in African-American neighbourhoods are primarily owned by Asian immigrants, or are chain stores where the majority of the profit goes to rich investors who- whether black or white- do not live in African-American neighbourhoods and whose profiting presents the black community with a net gain of zero.

 

In simplistic terms, if African-Americans open up small businesses in their neighbourhoods, run by people who live in the neighbourhood, the profit of the business owners goes back into the local economy. It also presents increased employment opportunity because the locals can be free of discriminatory hiring policies and demand for culturally-biased qualifications like SAT scores and college degrees, which in all honesty are nothing but symbolic capital. More money means more taxes and therefore more servicing from the public sector; less crime means more servicing from the private sector.

 

Even if the rhetoric is all "those white devils want your cash; give to your black-brothers!" the idea is a fundamentally good one, and it's still, at its core, a strategy of integration.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:23 AM Edited by theadmiral, 01 November 2013 - 11:31 AM.

It's not so much about African-Americans starting their own separate, insular economy though. It's about using the power African-Americans have as consumers to increase the economic standing of their neighbourhoods. The idea isn't that black people living in a suburb in Connecticut should seek out other black people to buy from. It's that businesses in African-American neighbourhoods are primarily owned by Asian immigrants, or are chain stores where the majority of the profit goes to rich investors who- whether black or white- do not live in African-American neighbourhoods and whose profiting presents the black community with a net gain of zero.

 

In simplistic terms, if African-Americans open up small businesses in their neighbourhoods, run by people who live in the neighbourhood, the profit of the business owners goes back into the local economy. It also presents increased employment opportunity because the locals can be free of discriminatory hiring policies and demand for culturally-biased qualifications like SAT scores and college degrees, which in all honesty are nothing but symbolic capital. More money means more taxes and therefore more servicing from the public sector; less crime means more servicing from the private sector.

 

Even if the rhetoric is all "those white devils want your cash; give to your black-brothers!" the idea is a fundamentally good one, and it's still, at its core, a strategy of integration.

What you are describing is not at all what this guy is describing. What you are describing is far more reasonable.

 

This guy is saying that black people should not buy at any business other than one that is owned by a black person, IE, if the 7-11 down the street has a white cashier, you should not shop there. "What is wrong with that?"

 

I agree with you Melchior that there are some elements of helpful things in the concept over all (Not Reaper's concept)

 

What he is describing, however, is limiting and tailoring your business entirely to black people. I don't know any businessman that would want to limit his customer base in this manner and I do not know how it would help make anyone better off than they already are.

 

For example , I mentioned a Jamaican market I shop at earlier. Almost everyone that shops there is black. I give them my money all the time. They send money back to Jamaica. Would their business be any better off if there was a sign on the door that said "Only black people allowed?"

 

EDIT: Outside of skin products and beauty products for black women, i'm struggling to think of ANY business or product that needs to be dedicated to black people alone. We are all humans and all need the same things.

 

Take Reaper's previous example of FUBU. This first came out when I was in high school, I know for a fact it was extremely popular with a certain segment of white people, and with Hispanics in general as well. This company still folded. Imagine if they sold it only to black people.


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#424

Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:47 PM

It's not so much about African-Americans starting their own separate, insular economy though. It's about using the power African-Americans have as consumers to increase the economic standing of their neighbourhoods. The idea isn't that black people living in a suburb in Connecticut should seek out other black people to buy from. It's that businesses in African-American neighbourhoods are primarily owned by Asian immigrants, or are chain stores where the majority of the profit goes to rich investors who- whether black or white- do not live in African-American neighbourhoods and whose profiting presents the black community with a net gain of zero.

 

In simplistic terms, if African-Americans open up small businesses in their neighbourhoods, run by people who live in the neighbourhood, the profit of the business owners goes back into the local economy. It also presents increased employment opportunity because the locals can be free of discriminatory hiring policies and demand for culturally-biased qualifications like SAT scores and college degrees, which in all honesty are nothing but symbolic capital. More money means more taxes and therefore more servicing from the public sector; less crime means more servicing from the private sector.

 

Even if the rhetoric is all "those white devils want your cash; give to your black-brothers!" the idea is a fundamentally good one, and it's still, at its core, a strategy of integration.

As theadmiral has already pointed out, that's not what's being described here. Reaper Madness' hypothesis is an insular, separatist blacks-only sub-economy that doesn't interact with the general economy, which he sees as being driven by the interests of whites (which in itself is a fundamentally flawed argument, as the economy is or at least should be driven by the interests of the consumers regardless of any determining characteristics). He's not talking about African-Americans opening up shops that tailor for people of the same ethnic origin as them, and using this to improve the local economy- which no-one in their right mind thinks is a bad thing. He's talking about creating an entirely separate sub-economy with blacks-only primary, secondary and tertiary industries and a blacks-only consumer base, which flies in the face of about the last 100 years worth of economic rationale and discourse and generally seems a bit silly.

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#425

Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:29 PM Edited by Danz., 01 November 2013 - 03:30 PM.

 

I'm racist. Well, at least I am not hypocritical enough to say otherwise, like most people do.

 

But I don't think there is anything wrong with it, as long as I keep these thoughts inside of my head and avoid practising any anti-racial act toward anyone.

Racist towards who?

 

Towards anyone who doesn't please my likings.

 

For example: I honestly think that no matter how well black people bathe themselves, they will usually have a dislikeable smell. But you know, opinion is like an ass, and if I were to say something like that people would instantly call me a racist, which is not true knowing the meaning of that word.

 

I could only be called a racist if I compared black people's smells to the ones from individuals beloging to another ethnic, saying that one is better than the other because of the race itself, That's the true meaning of racism. Well, at least in this case.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:03 PM

 

 

I'm racist. Well, at least I am not hypocritical enough to say otherwise, like most people do.

 

But I don't think there is anything wrong with it, as long as I keep these thoughts inside of my head and avoid practising any anti-racial act toward anyone.

Racist towards who?

 

Towards anyone who doesn't please my likings.

 

For example: I honestly think that no matter how well black people bathe themselves, they will usually have a dislikeable smell. But you know, opinion is like an ass, and if I were to say something like that people would instantly call me a racist, which is not true knowing the meaning of that word.

 

I could only be called a racist if I compared black people's smells to the ones from individuals beloging to another ethnic, saying that one is better than the other because of the race itself, That's the true meaning of racism. Well, at least in this case.

 

If you think you can take a group of racially diverse people who all bathe in the same manner, and pick out the black people based on their "dislikeable smell" i'd agree that you probably have some form of racial bias, I don't know if I would call you a racist, but you definitely have some bias.

 

It is no better than saying "All Indians smell like curry".

 

Not picking you out or arguing or anything, just commenting. You are obviously free to think whatever you like, but I would assert that your "smell" thing is more in your head.

 

Have you ever been in a walmart and around some of the white people in there? Talk about a disagreeable smell. Poor hygiene is poor hygiene no matter the colour of your skin.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:26 PM

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More or less how I feel about it. Patrice O Neil did a thing where he asked who was racist in the audience, and obviously no-one raised their hand, but when he asked does racism still exist everyone raises their hands. Then where are the racist? The problem is that racism still exist, but how do you prove it does? Where do you start? 


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 02:55 AM

While not an Objectivist, I like Ayn Rand's take on the issue of racism.

 

"Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors."

 

"Like every other form of collectivism, racism is a quest for the unearned. It is a quest for automatic knowledge—for an automatic evaluation of men’s characters that bypasses the responsibility of exercising rational or moral judgment—and, above all, a quest for an automatic self-esteem (or pseudo-self-esteem)."

 
"A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race—and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."
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Posted 02 November 2013 - 03:08 AM

 

While not an Objectivist, I like Ayn Rand's take on the issue of racism.

 

"Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors."

 

"Like every other form of collectivism, racism is a quest for the unearned. It is a quest for automatic knowledge—for an automatic evaluation of men’s characters that bypasses the responsibility of exercising rational or moral judgment—and, above all, a quest for an automatic self-esteem (or pseudo-self-esteem)."

 
"A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race—and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."

 

Ayn Rand was a racist piece of sh*t herself, who gives a f*ck what she said.

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 03:20 AM

 

 

Ayn Rand was a racist piece of sh*t herself

 

 

Would you care to substantiate this claim?


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 05:17 AM Edited by Grand Theft Savage, 02 November 2013 - 05:29 AM.

Are there any racists you have to put up with, and if you do, how do you deal with them? Take my mom for example, anybody she dislikes, regardless of their skin color, she calls the N-word, and it's really starting to bum me out.

I'm "racist". I like to think of myself as a Supremacist, but everyone calls me racist.

I really don't see the problem with being racist to be honest. Everyone has their own beliefs and sh*t... I've dislike crackers my whole life. Me and friends use to get together and just beat the hell out of the two white kids in my town, and almost got one of their mothers to suck our dicks at a school conference. I'm a strong believer in Black over white and always will be. And the stronger my hatred towards crackers became, the less open I was about it.

 

It really isn't a bad thing if you keep it to yourself. When I was young I even refused to be taught by white teachers if you can believe that. Looking back at it, that's is some really unacceptable sh*t, even for a Supremacist such as myself.

 

Edit: Speaking on Tommy Sotomayor... f*ck that nigga. Lame ass mark... Just another jail bird making money through his YouTube channel. He gets support from crackers because he speaks against his own race. I think it's his strategy...

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 06:33 AM

I laugh whenever I see neo nazis or racists but that's because I'm part of antifascist and antiracist groups with I will not name

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 12:45 PM

It annoys me when people say everyone is racist, I know damn well I'm not racist. My mums Irish, my dad's Turkish, my friends are English and I work with Bengalis, so I find it kind of hard to be racist.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:42 PM

 

While not an Objectivist, I like Ayn Rand's take on the issue of racism.

 

"Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors."

 

"Like every other form of collectivism, racism is a quest for the unearned. It is a quest for automatic knowledge—for an automatic evaluation of men’s characters that bypasses the responsibility of exercising rational or moral judgment—and, above all, a quest for an automatic self-esteem (or pseudo-self-esteem)."

 
"A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race—and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."

 

Apparently Rand thought racism was wrong, but classism is totally fine? You don't normally hear social darwinists speaking out against racism.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 02:41 PM Edited by niko bellic half brother, 02 November 2013 - 03:30 PM.

 

Are there any racists you have to put up with, and if you do, how do you deal with them? Take my mom for example, anybody she dislikes, regardless of their skin color, she calls the N-word, and it's really starting to bum me out.

-bigoted rant full of derogatory racial slurs of which will probably go unpunished-

 

 

Despite your already evident ignorance, you believe Tommy Sotomayor (or whatever other alias he goes by) is supported by us "crackers"?...

 

I laugh whenever I see neo nazis or racists but that's because I'm part of antifascist and antiracist groups with I will not name

 

Is perhaps the reason you won't disclose what anti-fascist group you're affiliated with, is because it either is, or is akin to UAF; an organisation of which has within its membership the same violent thugs as the political/radical groups it rallies against?


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 03:36 PM

Yes, he is supported by crackers. I'm not saying his main supporters are crackers, obviously, but I'm just pointing it out. You can watch his videos and see the amount of crackers saying they agree when he makes a video bashing Black women.

And your question needs revising, because it didn't make sense at first glance.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 03:48 PM

The racial-tension-preying con artist gets just as much, if not more, support from blacks. What's your point.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 03:51 PM

Grand Theft Savage, just a question (and I don't want to get into a whole thing) but i'm wondering why you made a thread about people having a problem with Jamaicans when you admit to being a supremacist that roamed around town looking for white kids to beat up. Isn't this just standard behavior in your opinion?


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 04:03 PM

Grand Theft Savage, just a question (and I don't want to get into a whole thing) but i'm wondering why you made a thread about people having a problem with Jamaicans when you admit to being a supremacist that roamed around town looking for white kids to beat up. Isn't this just standard behavior in your opinion?

Because he's a hypocrite. I would call him a retard, but that would be an insult to people that are actually retarded.

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 04:43 PM

Yes, he is supported by crackers. I'm not saying his main supporters are crackers, obviously, but I'm just pointing it out. You can watch his videos and see the amount of crackers saying they agree when he makes a video bashing Black women.

And your question needs revising, because it didn't make sense at first glance.

You are making a fool of yourself, son.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 06:40 PM

Are there any racists you have to put up with, and if you do, how do you deal with them? Take my mom for example, anybody she dislikes, regardless of their skin color, she calls the N-word, and it's really starting to bum me out.

-bigoted rant full of derogatory racial slurs of which will probably go unpunished-
 
Despite your already evident ignorance, you believe Tommy Sotomayor (or whatever other alias he goes by) is supported by us "crackers"?...
 

I laugh whenever I see neo nazis or racists but that's because I'm part of antifascist and antiracist groups with I will not name

 
Is perhaps the reason you won't disclose what anti-fascist group you're affiliated with, is because it either is, or is akin to UAF; an organisation of which has within its membership the same violent thugs as the political/radical groups it rallies against?

No I just don't want to disclose who I'm with but I can tell you that they don't mess around with groups like uaf because there not hard enough. Also why are you telling me about uaf? I'm not British I'm american?

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:21 PM

Please stop using "crackers". I aint no Nabisco.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:23 PM

Please stop using "crackers". I aint no Nabisco.

Would it make it any better if you were a saltine or a keebler club?


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 07:40 PM

The racial-tension-preying con artist gets just as much, if not more, support from blacks. What's your point.

That's a straight up lie. He even said himself that over half of his supporters are not Black. Check is Twitter page for reference.

 

Grand Theft Savage, just a question (and I don't want to get into a whole thing) but i'm wondering why you made a thread about people having a problem with Jamaicans when you admit to being a supremacist that roamed around town looking for white kids to beat up. Isn't this just standard behavior in your opinion?

What do these have to do with each other? I just put it out there so you all would know how I was brought up. I've strongly disliked white folks for as long as I remember, but that's because I always though their entire race was racist. But even after realizing that makes no sense... I still disliked them. So I'm just a racist myself I suppose.

 

The Jamaican thing was just a question. I was wondering if there was anyone on this forum that was racist against Jamaicans, and if so, why? I don't have a problem with that. As said, it was a question.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:14 PM

You are free to hate white people in your own time, but why you felt the need to register on an online forum and scream about it from the rooftops is beyond me. Honestly it seems to be the focal point of your posting; it's attention seeking and you are wasting everybody's time.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:16 PM

I've strongly disliked white folks for as long as I remember, but that's because I always though their entire race was racist. But even after realizing that makes no sense... I still disliked them. So I'm just a racist myself I suppose.

Do you even think? You constantly say how you think everybody is racist (especially white people), then you admit it's nonsense but you still hate white people.

 

Good luck finding someone here that hates Jamaicans. Most people here have functioning brains that they can use, unlike you.


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#447

Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:07 PM

 

The racial-tension-preying con artist gets just as much, if not more, support from blacks. What's your point.

 

That's a straight up lie. He even said himself that over half of his supporters are not Black. Check is Twitter page for reference.

 

Twitter pages will be acceptable as references in debated the moment I sh*t golden glitter.

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#448

Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:50 PM Edited by Grand Theft Savage, 02 November 2013 - 09:53 PM.

You are free to hate white people in your own time, but why you felt the need to register on an online forum and scream about it from the rooftops is beyond me. Honestly it seems to be the focal point of your posting; it's attention seeking and you are wasting everybody's time.

I didn't register to this forum to let that be known. I registered to this forum to contribute to a discussion and ended up staying. The thread is about racism and I shared my honest thoughts and experiences. I don't see what you guys are butthurt about, you should be glad. Because everything you're hearing from me is true. I don't get why you inbreeds take this forum so seriously. If I wrote that GTA V sucked and it lacks in too many areas to be considered a decent game, then went on to state that Super Mario is better, the ridiculously foolish replies I'm getting here would be the same as in such a scenario. Just sayin'

 

 

I've strongly disliked white folks for as long as I remember, but that's because I always though their entire race was racist. But even after realizing that makes no sense... I still disliked them. So I'm just a racist myself I suppose.

Do you even think? You constantly say how you think everybody is racist (especially white people), then you admit it's nonsense but you still hate white people.

 

Good luck finding someone here that hates Jamaicans. Most people here have functioning brains that they can use, unlike you.

 

Do YOU even think? You just stated the point I keep making to you dumbasses. I'm a "racist."

Read my post again. I disliked crackers when I was young because I always thought they were all racist. This is stupid, yes, and I came to realize that. But my dislike for them never changed.

Why am I explaining myself more than once? Are you brain dead?

 

 

 

The racial-tension-preying con artist gets just as much, if not more, support from blacks. What's your point.

 

That's a straight up lie. He even said himself that over half of his supporters are not Black. Check is Twitter page for reference.

 

Twitter pages will be acceptable as references in debated the moment I sh*t golden glitter.

Yeah, the problem is, this isn't a debate. And I'm certain Sotomayor knows his own statistics.

This post will be valid the moment I sh*t diamonds and end up flushing them

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Anyways, I quit. Have fun replying to me knowing I won't respond. And let's see who can correctly guess how long until Grand Theft Savage gets banned? I say in about 2 days. Maybe less, if they ever see my thread about Jamaican racism


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#449

Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:39 PM Edited by sivispacem, 02 November 2013 - 10:42 PM.

 

This post will be valid the moment I sh*t diamonds and end up flushing them

 

 

Thank you for summarising your own argument far more succinctly than I ever could.

 

If you can't find a reason why you dislike people based on their ethnicity, then you aren't just a racist. Even the most despicable of white power nutjobs can recite half a textbook full of largely incomprehensible reasons why they consider Aryans to be the master race. Granted, they're all sh*t, but that's besides the point. You're not only a racist, you're a lazy, misanthropic one at best and at worst some juvenile who thinks going on about "crackers" somehow makes you cool on an internet forum full of geeks and pedants. Guess what? It doesn't. It makes you look like a bit of a muppet.


Myron
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#450

Posted 02 November 2013 - 11:43 PM Edited by Nale Dixon, 02 November 2013 - 11:46 PM.

 

 

 

Ayn Rand was a racist piece of sh*t herself

 

 

Would you care to substantiate this claim?

 

 

Notice how she labels the 'primitive' arabs racist whilst spouting some garbage herself. That's next level bro. f*ck Ayn Rand in general. In any case and if you're dumb enough to read her sh*tty novels then





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