|QUOTE (sivispacem @ Wednesday, Mar 13 2013, 07:47)|
|QUOTE (LeVelocar @ Wednesday, Mar 13 2013, 02:59)|
| Apart from all the places it does work, like Scandinavian countries |
Scandinavia (well Europe more generally) is/are neoliberalist. Not, by any stretch of the imagination, socialist. The only people I've ever seen call Western Europe "socialist" are Americans who've been indoctrinated with the idea that we're all borderline commies and don't really seem to understand the term themselves.
They've (thinking Norway in particular) got a lot of socialist tendencies, so long as you understand that keeping certain things away from money grabbing greedy fuggers and caring for your fellow man is the true spirit of socialism. I would never imply that they are totally socialist. For one I haven't moved there yet.
So in a way, yankies are accidentally right. They've decided that "not being an arse" = evil, and "being a right arse" = good. Then they went and decided evil = socialism, so you end up with "not being an arse" = socialism, and a society where being an arse is considered a goal. This is what happens when you populate a new country by taking those too dysfunctional to live in europe and packing them into wooden boats for months. Hello there, for profit healthcare.
I feel bad for the people who think that the "free market" will solve anything. The goal of a for-profit enterprise is to gain the most money by spending the least. It is not to help people, and that is why it never, ever has. That is why they fight every minimum wage raise, leaving the goverment to cover the remaining cost of living through housing benefits, child benefits, and working tax credits. That is why they take people on from mandatory "workfare" schemes en-masse instead of hiring paid workers. That is why they will cut costs any way possible, even though they know it will result in a shoddy product that will have to be replaced almost immediately. Capitalism does not exist to help anyone except those who own the business in question.