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#2611

Posted 4 days ago Edited by El Diablo, 4 days ago.

I'd rather not get into this debate. Grown men taking narcotics like it's candy, to finish a highly paid job. They could've went to other doctors. I don't buy the "well, they're hired doctors by the teams" bull. Are they really that guilable to think that popping narcotics everyday all day wouldn't have an effect?

The concussion issue is another thing entirely though.

the issues are directly related to each other.

 

 

I don't mind the debate because I'm a huge football fan.

and sweeping it under the rug doesn't help the sport. it needs to be addressed at some point. otherwise the game of football will die a slow death from within, as parents keep their children from playing little league, and college prospects choose other (safer) sports.


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#2612

Posted 4 days ago Edited by DOOM!, 4 days ago.

They are same in the sense that the NFL has been undermining the problem, or they weren't aware of the consequences (which I truly doubt).

My dad was a boxer, and one thing I knew that taking narcotic pills wasn't going to cure or help (I'm guilty of doing so). I just don't buy that these players, who (mostly) attended prestigious colleges weren't aware of the damages the drugs injected or taken by mouth would do to them. Especially if it was a everyday thing like Turley implied. It could be argued that without these drugs some players would've never made it as far as they did, and unfortunately that was the consquence... seems like selling your soul to the devil, because after your work with the NFL, not unless you get a front office job with a team or the NFL itself, then you're long forgotten to the NFL.

If the NFL wanted to juice these guys up with street level narcotics, then they need to take care of them once they retire the jersey... regardless of the millions most of these guys make during their career.
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#2613

Posted 4 days ago

truly these guys understand the risks of the game

the players. it's their choice to play, etc etc.

 

but surely there's a serious cultural problem within the game when the doctors and coaches entrusted with the care of the players fail to disclose simple (life threatening) conflicts with the drugs they're entitled to pump them up with. if the job is too difficult to be played without life threatening concoctions of serious pain narcotics, then perhaps the game truly needs to be examined and significant rule changes implemented in regards to types of contact they endure.


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#2614

Posted 4 days ago Edited by jatiger13, 4 days ago.

First of all, The coaches have zero responsibility to disclose any dangers regarding any drugs that the players take.

Second, former players have said that even though they knew the impact of drugs or head injuries would have on their life in the future, they'd do whatever it takes to get back on the field. They are/were not worried about the quality of life that t he'll have in their 50's.
They just want to play the game. If they don't get back to the field, they know someone else is ready to take their spot.

That's why many former players said that the lawsuit against the NFL was BS. I've heard them say "Don't act like you didnt know. I knew, but I didn't care, so you must have known as well. The fact of the matter was, you didn't worry about life after your career."

The players have the biggest blame here. Players nowadays could also easily look up the dangers of certain drugs if the doctors don't tell them. Or just ask.
But they don't do that or most of them simply don't care.
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#2615

Posted 3 days ago

They've already changed helmet to helmet tackles, if they try to change anything else then they need to throw flags on them and make it non-contact. Don't see how they could possibly make it any more "safe" than they've already done, not unless they upgrade equipment.

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#2616

Posted 3 days ago

Also, Miami breaks bank for Tannelhill. 96 mil - 40+ guaranteed. Life must be nice for mediocre QBs now-a-days. Trent Dilfer would've/should've been the highest pad QB 14 years ago, at the rate of how highly of a contract QBs get.

 

This goes back to, "who else are you going to get?" Granted they didn't need to pay him that much but still, who else?

 

We'll see.


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#2617

Posted 3 days ago

Kraft backing down and accepting the NFL's punishment.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Admission of guilt?

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#2618

Posted 3 days ago Edited by DOOM!, 3 days ago.

Go get a veteran, trade for someone or draft. I like Tannehill and all, but the contract is ludicrious considering the guy hasn't even made the playoffs yet.

I'm thinking Kraft accepts the punishment for draft picks and money, whilst Tom will get off the hook.

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#2619

Posted 3 days ago

Nope

 

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#2620

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The players have the biggest blame here. Players nowadays could also easily look up the dangers of certain drugs if the doctors don't tell them. Or just ask.
But they don't do that or most of them simply don't care.

did you even watch any of the clips that were posted?

you couldn't be more wrong.

 

how can players be expected to know what doctors went to medical school for?

they trust their health to these professionals and those professionals deliberately mislead them in order to maintain the product on the field.

 

players past and present have talked about how messed up this is cycle is and how it needs to change.

the players are united on this issue. there's not a debate within the NFLPA about these problems, they're actively forming class-action lawsuits. hall of famers, unknowns, rich, broke. they're largely in agreement here. I would love for you to find me more than 1 quote of former players calling the lawsuit "BS" because you just made that up.

 

the only reason I care is because I love the game and the men who play it.

and I don't like to see my heroes treated this way, nor do I wish for this issue to become the sports' deathnail. people like yourself with their head in the sand will help seal the coffin.

 

carry on...


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#2621

Posted 2 days ago

I like the new PAT change

 

2pt remains at the 2yd line.

FG att. moved to the 15yd line(100% rate to 90% chance basically).

Defense can intercept or return a blocked kick to their endzone for two points.


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#2622

Posted 2 days ago Edited by jatiger13, 2 days ago.

Nvm

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#2623

Posted 2 days ago Edited by DOOM!, 2 days ago.

I like the new PAT change
 
2pt remains at the 2yd line.
FG att. moved to the 15yd line(100% rate to 90% chance basically).
Defense can intercept or return a blocked kick to their endzone for two points.

We shall see if we see more 2-point conversions. I can also see a lot of coaches opting for 2 in bad weather. I remember either last season or the season before the weather was so bad coaches opted for 2 when they kicked from the 2 yard line.

They should've just put it at the 20-30 yard line if they want to make it challenging and even more interesting. These kickers make easy money for trotting on the field, maybe a handful of times each game to kick PATs and maybe your challenging field goal. It would weed out the inconsistent kickers very quickly.

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#2624

Posted 2 days ago

Will Beatty likely out for the season.

f*ck my life. It's not even training camp yet.

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#2625

Posted 2 days ago

Will Beatty likely out for the season.

f*ck my life. It's not even training camp yet.

The Giants injury curse started early this year. Has anyone within the organization angered a voodoo priest?

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#2626

Posted 2 days ago

Eli Manning retains his iron man reputation by absorbing the health of his teammates.
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#2627

Posted 2 days ago Edited by GTA3Rockstar, 2 days ago.

You shouldn't be surprised, you called it. :p

 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.co...9491709380.html

 

Letterman must be a huge fan of Peyton Manning. haha :^:


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#2628

Posted A day ago

Letterman is a Colts fan. So ofc he likes Peyton
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Posted A day ago

http://sports.yahoo....-190954025.html

 

 

lol

 

A five-pointed star, which usually references to the Bloods and the saying, "Lifetimer" above it.

 

I guess he didn't really care. Maybe he rather be in there with his homies.


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#2630

Posted A day ago

The Detroit Lions are a lock for the playoffs

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Posted 19 hours ago

The Detroit Lions are a lock for the playoffs

 

Idk about that.

 

I think the Div winners will be GB, DAL, NO, SEA. With the ARI and CAR getting the wildcards.


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Posted 18 hours ago

http://sports.yahoo....-190954025.html
 
 
lol
 
A five-pointed star, which usually references to the Bloods and the saying, "Lifetimer" above it.
 
I guess he didn't really care. Maybe he rather be in there with his homies.


He was bred to live the prison life. He's enjoying it, they need to keep him isolated from all prisoners if they want to punish him.... to him he's just playing in a playground.

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#2633

Posted 16 hours ago

The Detroit Lions are a lock for the playoffs



2-14 Season Confirmed..


I'd rather Detroit just stay as an under the radar team. The team tends to fall on their collective faces when they get hyped up too much.

I will say though, watch out for Stafford, he's been erratic, but if that revamped O-Line and RB backfield hold up, he's gonna do some work. He's got a unique arm, too. The only other QB I've seen that could throw with that style, was Brett Favre.

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#2634

Posted 13 hours ago

Give any good QB a great O-Line with a running attack and they will win; give them a defense and they win Super Bowl(s).
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#2635

Posted 8 hours ago

Gotta find a good one first, that's rare.


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Posted 7 hours ago Edited by GankThis110, 7 hours ago.

Gotta find a good one first, that's rare.


Especially when you're the Brownies.




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