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#121

Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (urbanfire @ Wednesday, Feb 27 2013, 10:46)
Use f*cking headphones if profanity bothers your children so much...

See, when you're a parent in charge of a kid, you can't wear headphones, because you might not hear their screams when they fall into the bathtub and think they are drowning, or they are climbing up the window blinds and they get the drapery cord wrapped around their neck (yeah they do that, who knows why), or they burn their hands on their Easy-Bake Oven, or when they walk in on you while you are beating the crap out of a GTAV ho who diss'ed you, using your 9 iron, while the ho kicks you in the virtual balls while shouting a stream of obscenities. You have to be able to hear what is going on around you, for these situations.

And further to the OP's point, it's not inconceivable that you might actually want to show your kid some benign parts of GTAV, like mountain climbing or driving through the country or the city, or running and jumping and climbing, since the kid got bored and came in to sit with you and watch you play the game for a while.

Why is it so hard to understand? People, open your mind to all the potential situations.... Do you all live in caves? Do you have no interaction with other people, adults, younger siblings? The fun vulgarity of GTAV unfortunately limits its opportunity to be played when there is the chance of polite or mixed company intruding on your fun.

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#122

Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

@saintsrow, this is very similar to the crap we had in the modding thread with a title including 'not about online cheating/modding'. Lots of people coming in with their opinions (stated as facts though) rambling about people cheating and hacking online and all modders should be banned. Thankfully with logical explanations I had the last say in one of the longest/biggest arguments on here.
I did say many times in that thread, ask any teacher, they all say they often come across a child who just won't learn!

Back on topic, I am not a parent but often look after young nephews, I understand you can get bored of doing what they want but have to keep an eye on them. Going to be a shock for some people when they get there!
The voice volume on the PC version as I mentioned can be for adjustment, I often have to leave that at max and turn the others down a little to make sure I hear all dialogue. I dislike using subtitles as it can be distracting in fast paced cut-scenes.

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#123

Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

Ok, the more i think about this the more i think you're full of BS. Its a game called GRAND THEFT AUTO. And yes, if you dont want your kid hearing "bad " words then MUTE IT or put headset around your neck. I mean if its such a big deal then you dont need to hear the cars engine, then wildlife, the weather, etc. You're just being picky and it seems to be your selfishness getting the best of you.

SO if your kid "unexpectedly" hears a "bad" word and its TOO MUCH then im PRETTY SURE she "unexpectedly" sees you shooting and killing or when you accidentally run someone over and leave a blood trail from your tires or if you're playing the game 'respectively' in front of her then what happens when you wreck and need to jack someone elses car and you either bust out the window and hotwire it or bitch slap the driver, throw them in the street and take off? what about random cop shoot outs with npcs? what about all the offensive billboards and signs? If language is the problem then i suggest you never get cable, radio, or internet. As a parent LANGUAGE SHOULD BE THE LEAST OF YOUR WORRIES.

And yes i understand that there is a such thing as TOO MUCH but im saying is it TOO MUCH to mute it for the sake of your child. Especially when you say your not doing anything violent or obscene when shes around.

And i also agree with everyone about the 'voice volume control' seems doable.

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#124

Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Saints row 2 had a voice option, where you can adjust the voice volume

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#125

Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:33 PM

How about just being a better parent and not letting your kids see you playing games that are rated Mature?

Don't blame the developers or expect them to add something just because you're a sh*t parent.

Same goes for kids playing mature games. It's not the devs fault. It's generally the parent's fault for buying the kids those games, or letting them play them.

Be the cure, not the disease.

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#126

Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:24 AM

it is clear that this forum is full of short sighted, angry, and ignorant malcontents, as well as a vast number of other types of idiots possessing zero reading & comprehension skills, with the exception of a few posters, of course.

a very large set of people play GTA IV and the game has different meanings to different people.

the disrespectful comments and assassination attempts at my character based on absolutely nothing but whatever most posters on here wanted to believe, and certainly not based on what I have explained, is... well, just disappointing, yet telling.

for the angry posters who think that this game is only about killing and sex, it is if you constantly play it that way. Violence and sex in this video game is probably all that some of you have. My heart goes out to all of you. sad.gif





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#127

Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:32 AM

^Films do not have profanity filters. I see where you're coming from, but adding one would take much time and effort.

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#128

Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:43 AM

At the end of the day Rockstar isn't your kid's parent and they are not responsible for what your kid hears nor should they be. You decided to have a child and now it's your responsibility to make sure that child isn't exposed to what you don't want them to be exposed to. Not anyone else. That's the point. Either way Rockstar isn't going to listen to you because it's a waste of time and quite frankly stupid.
If this game isn't about violence, drugs, and sex all the time then I want to see your copy or want whatever you're smoking. The reason why this topic bothers me because they are always parents out there looking for an easy way out of parenting. Instead of doing the jobs themselves they look for other medium to do the jobs for them.

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#129

Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:56 AM

OP must be trolling. You sir are f*cking pathetic.

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#130

Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:58 AM Edited by XxPhillies26xX, 28 February 2013 - 02:26 AM.

QUOTE (blowtorchrepair @ Wednesday, Feb 27 2013, 21:24)
it is clear that this forum is full of short sighted, angry, and ignorant malcontents, as well as a vast number of other types of idiots possessing zero reading & comprehension skills, with the exception of a few posters, of course.

a very large set of people play GTA IV and the game has different meanings to different people.

the disrespectful comments and assassination attempts at my character based on absolutely nothing but whatever most posters on here wanted to believe, and certainly not based on what I have explained, is...  well, just disappointing, yet telling.

for the angry posters who think that this game is only about killing and sex, it is if you constantly play it that way.  Violence and sex in this video game is probably all that some of you have.  My heart goes out to all of you. sad.gif

I'm no parent but understand your situation about having a profanity filter you don't wont your kid to be exposed to profanity and I understand that. In today's society its pretty difficult no matter where you go you will always here people use profanity even when your child is in school he may hear profanity around some of the kids or when you go out somewhere in public. Unfortunately some of these kids don't have respect for people or wasn't taught that. Its good to see a parent on here that has concerns for their child and cares about what stuff they hear. I recommend you to send this message to [email protected] even though it might be too late in the development process for R* to implement this. But ignore these comments some of these users on gtaforums are young. I don't know if anyone remember but someone made a topic on here about what age groups use the gtaforums and most of them were young so I'm not surprised. Keep up the good work as a parent its good to see someone in this generation cares about what their child hears. We need more parents like you. and keep your head up you did the right thing for speaking up my respect goes out to you. Don't be afraid to express your opinion or the way you feel about something always speak up. God bless you and your family blowtorchrepair and lets bring on April and may already. icon14.gif smile.gif

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#131

Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:59 AM

QUOTE (XxPhillies26xX @ Thursday, Feb 28 2013, 01:58)
QUOTE (blowtorchrepair @ Wednesday, Feb 27 2013, 21:24)
it is clear that this forum is full of short sighted, angry, and ignorant malcontents, as well as a vast number of other types of idiots possessing zero reading & comprehension skills, with the exception of a few posters, of course.

a very large set of people play GTA IV and the game has different meanings to different people.

the disrespectful comments and assassination attempts at my character based on absolutely nothing but whatever most posters on here wanted to believe, and certainly not based on what I have explained, is...  well, just disappointing, yet telling.

for the angry posters who think that this game is only about killing and sex, it is if you constantly play it that way.  Violence and sex in this video game is probably all that some of you have.  My heart goes out to all of you. sad.gif

I'm no parent but understand your situation about having a profanity filter you don't wont your kid to be exposed to profanity and I understand that. In today's society its pretty difficult no matter where you go you will always here people use profanity even when your child is in school he may hear profanity around some of the kids or when you go out somewhere in public. Unfortunately some of these kids don't have respect or wasn't taught that due to the absence of their father or mother. Its good to see a parent on here has concerns for their child and cares about what stuff they hear. I recommend you to send this message to [email protected] even though it might be too late in the development process for R* to implement this. But ignore these comments some of these users on gtaforums are young. I don't know if anyone remember but someone made a topic on here about what age groups use the gtaforums and most of them were young so I'm not surprised. Keep up the good work as a parent its good to see someone in this generation cares about what their child hears. We need more parents like you:^:. and keep your head up you did the right thing for speaking up my respect goes out to you. Don't be afraid to express your opinion or the way you feel about something always speak up. God bless you and your family blowtorchrepair and lets bring on April and may already. icon14.gif smile.gif

That is very sad to read.

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#132

Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:59 AM

Honestly OP, what did you expect? You should have known how unpopular this idea was going to be for obvious reasons. And nobody needs your pity. You act like this is such a huge problem when the solutions are actually quite simple.

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#133

Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:33 AM

Personally I have a 2 year old and a 4 year old and my mom NEVER let me play gta games so I had friends buy them for me. As a father now I will not play GTA in front of them for the sake of them. The last thing I need is for them to end up like me. So I agree with this topic

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#134

Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:41 AM

T h i s i s w h y I d o n ' t w a n t k i d s .

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#135

Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:42 AM

I was exposed to gta at the age of 5 or 6. My parents raised me right enough to realize the right from wrong, the game is clearly rated m, so no filter. That's like putting a sensor bar on a pair of breasts in a pornpgraphic film. It clearly has a warning.

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#136

Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:14 AM Edited by Miamivicecity, 28 February 2013 - 08:17 AM.

Although I understand what the OP is saying I'm not sure R* would ever add such an option since the series has been fine without a profanity filter for 16 years.

If it was a serious issue I'm R* would consider it, but unfortunately it's a minority concern. I believe it should be a discretionary decision on the parent's behalf. If you choose to play GTA in the presence of your young one the game shouldn't be tailor made to be "child friendly" because ultimately it's your decision that should dictate what's best for your child. Not a balls cut game IMO.

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#137

Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:27 AM

QUOTE (finn4life @ Thursday, Feb 28 2013, 01:32)
^Films do not have profanity filters. I see where you're coming from, but adding one would take much time and effort.

Well, since you brought up films ....

I realize that you are talking about rated films in theaters, cable TV and DVDs, which people view by choice and theoretically can control the viewing environment. So (civilized) people would not be watching a DVD of SAW or Debbie Does Dallas on their living room TV, while a kiddie birthday party is going on, or leave the disks laying around so their kiddies can watch them at other times when the adults are not around.

But as hard as it may be to believe in this day and age of DVDs, cable TV / HBO and internet porn, things used to be different. On prime time over-the-air TV, the entire society (children, adults, the family dog) used to be protected from profanity, tits, pussy, drinking alcohol, doing drugs, etc.

"Edited for content and length"

Every film was censored, and and still is, on FCC-regulated channels. Keeping us safe from the excesses of angsted artists tounge.gif So it's not impossible to cut audio or cut scenes that are deemed offensive by the appropriate authorities. Just cutting the audio or deleting the video is not that hard in itself.

However, I certainly understand that with the pervasive vulgarity in the GTA scripts, writing and producing alternate dialog so the game is not all chopped up would not only be a lot of work, but also would not be anything that an artistic company would do willingly.

Actually, though, it turns out that there are whole businesses dedicated to making family-safe DVD viewing experiences so that parents can watch their R-rated movies while the kiddies are building tinker toys on the rug in the same room or in the open-plan family room 15 feet away. Better to have the family sharing a space, even while doing their own things, rather than locking the kids in their rooms and letting them entertain themselves in unknown ways.

This gets to the point of my contributions to this thread, and (I will venture to say) the OP's original point. Believe it or not, young GTA grasshoppers, life is more complicated than you imagine in your simple teenage world. There exist situations where GTA might be played (or a movie might be viewed, by the way) where it would be nice to have a simple on-off option for audio vulgarity control, different than wearing headphones or muting the sound completely. Strange but true.

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#138

Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:43 AM

Most of the kids on here have no idea what its like to balance family and game time when you have a new GTA title. I played IV with one earphone in while my kids played Lego in the next room or were in bed. I also let my older kids drive around and explore. They love it. No weapons allowed, sound down, because of the swearing, no deliberately running people over or fighting. GTA is a game of many levels. Its not always killing and sex. With the swearing removed there's no reason why kids couldn't walk around exploring the impressive cityscape and atmosphere under supervision. And unless you have kids, you should shut the f*ck up. Its about an OPTION for parents.

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#139

Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (wallis @ Thursday, Feb 28 2013, 11:43)
I also let my older kids drive around and explore. They love it. No weapons allowed

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#140

Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

f*cking dumb topic.


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#141

Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:24 PM

While it's obvious a bunch of people under 17 (some very far off from that age), Rockstar does not have to set up a profanity filter, and honestly, they shouldn't. It's acknowledging all the underage users when the game is meant to be for those 17 and up. The game is rated "M", for 17 years and up. If parents are going to let their kids play this, they better explain swearing quickly or not give this game to their immature whatever-year old who'll otherwise go out and tout his newfound vocabulary.

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#142

Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:44 PM

QUOTE (Lukijs @ Tuesday, Feb 26 2013, 10:02)
OP ,use headphones...
It's not even supossed to be played by children. These kids are reasons why some dumb politicians keep raving about videogames. Kids are ''mostly'' those who go around killing hookers,killing ped's in all possible ways and so on. GTA is not about killing and because of those little incompetent brats videogames are treated so badly and it's f*cking parents fault who buy these R rated games and then are horrified about what they're kids are playing. Also while we are at it,why don't we remove all blood and Fatality's from Mortal Kombat ,oh wait there's a game like that already Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe ...it's GTA,it's supossed to be bold,filled with mature themes and violence in GTA isn't just for the sake of it.

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#143

Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

Crikey there are some varied opinions, getting a bit out of hand!
Perhaps a speech/dialogue volume would be a great compromise and certainly useful also to people who don't find themselves in the situation the OP described.
I always use this option when present, I find often without it I can miss important dialogue in game due to music or SFX. Subtitles can be very distracting in fast paced gameplay or cut scene usually meaning read OR watch.
I hope this helps!

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:34 PM

I thought the answer was pretty simple and didnt require 8 pages

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

What a useless thread suicidal.gif

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

I suppose they should put a language filter for R rated dvds & porn in case parents want to watch those in front of their children as well. sarcasm.gif

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:15 PM Edited by blakeney, 28 February 2013 - 09:19 PM.

QUOTE (blowtorchrepair @ Monday, Feb 25 2013, 22:12)
My only fear of exposing my child to my playing GTA IV (and soon GTA V) is not the guns, the violence, the car chases, or the shooting of various weapons.

I'm a parent to a 2 year old, that copies everything at the mo, so wouldn't play it near her (also I game on my pc, which isn't really "infront" or properly in view).

How old are your kids for you to not be bothered about the violence/gore? I know my 2yo probably at this point wouldn't properly be able to distinguish the difference between a game or a film/real footage of someone being shot/ran over etc.

*edit* But in general my view on such matters, is that games are like films, and I wouldn't generally watch an 18 round her so same goes for games, and also I personally game mainly at night when she is in bed.

*edit 2* I also would rather disk space be spent elsewhere... audio takes up space... including a generic tone to "bleep" sh*t out...

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE (SammyXNA @ Thursday, Feb 28 2013, 17:35)
What a useless thread suicidal.gif

Not really, because its not the usual "I let me 5yo play gta, they should have kiddy mode"... most people haven't thought about (I mean parents) it effecting them when they "passively" experience the game.

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#149

Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:29 PM

I couldn't even be bothered to read the OP. A profanity filter, gore slider, removal of nudity etc. Why on earth would any of these things need to be in an 18+ rated game & more importantly, a GTA game?


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#150

Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

If parents spent less time worrying about what their kids watch o r listen ton TV and actually spend more time with their kids, the world would be a better place.

I see what your saying OP, but honestly its simple, if you don't want your kid to hear the profanity (but royalty let her see you killing people) either mute the TV or play when she's asleep.




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