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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

And how much do you think the restoration of such a car cost?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

Not as much as for the ones shown in the first post, but by the looks...he didn't really do anything more than fix the electric systems that were the problem on his car.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

With only purpose of show off, why not get Toyota MR2 and dress it up with F355 bodykit? Many people won't see difference anyway and you can get quasi Ferrari with japanese quality for few thousands pounds.

I know it won't be real deal, but buying Ferrari just for fact of having it isn't better.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:11 PM Edited by Raavi, 22 February 2013 - 11:16 PM.

QUOTE (Tycek @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:44)
With only purpose of show off, why not get Toyota MR2 and dress it up with F355 bodykit? Many people won't see difference anyway and you can get quasi Ferrari with japanese quality for few thousands pounds.

I know it won't be real deal, but buying Ferrari just for fact of having it isn't better.

Then I would go with a Lamborghini Murcielago bodykit but that's my personal preference. With your budget you would be alright and you could also upgrade what's under the hood. Or buy a replica of the rare Lamborghini Reventon Roadster.

Do you think this one is real or a replica?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:14 PM

QUOTE (Chris CJ Jakobsson @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 10:25)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 08:00)
You won't get a good 308 GTB for £35k either.

Well, there are plenty of good one for 35k.. when i think aboout it i dont think you can find alot of them for over 35k


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Well it a one week job smile.gif so your right when you say it wont last long bored.gif

And about maintenance/repairs, i dont spend my money on anything esle since i live for free (no i dont live with my mom lol)




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Its an acting-job... that will give me the money, then i work at McDonalds smile.gif

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:27 PM Edited by Gnarlton Banks, 22 February 2013 - 11:34 PM.

QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:11)
QUOTE (Tycek @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:44)
With only purpose of show off, why not get Toyota MR2 and dress it up with F355 bodykit? Many people won't see difference anyway and you can get quasi Ferrari with japanese quality for few thousands pounds.

I know it won't be real deal, but buying Ferrari just for fact of having it isn't better.

Then I would go with a Lamborghini Murcielago bodykit but that's my personal preference. With your budget you would be alright and you could also upgrade what's under the hood. Or buy a replica of the rare Lamborghini Reventon Roadster.

Do you think this one is real or a replica?

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If somebody put those wheels on a real one they should be shot.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:29 PM

QUOTE (Gnarlton Banks @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:27)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:11)
QUOTE (Tycek @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:44)
With only purpose of show off, why not get Toyota MR2 and dress it up with F355 bodykit? Many people won't see difference anyway and you can get quasi Ferrari with japanese quality for few thousands pounds.

I know it won't be real deal, but buying Ferrari just for fact of having it isn't better.

Then I would go with a Lamborghini Murcielago bodykit but that's my personal preference. With your budget you would be alright and you could also upgrade what's under the hood. Or buy a replica of the rare Lamborghini Reventon Roadster.

Do you think this one is real or a replica?

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If somebody put those wheels on a real one they should be shot.

They have to cut the price down somewhere. lol.gif

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:31 PM Edited by Gnarlton Banks, 22 February 2013 - 11:34 PM.

QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:29)
QUOTE (Gnarlton Banks @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:27)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:11)
QUOTE (Tycek @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:44)
With only purpose of show off, why not get Toyota MR2 and dress it up with F355 bodykit? Many people won't see difference anyway and you can get quasi Ferrari with japanese quality for few thousands pounds.

I know it won't be real deal, but buying Ferrari just for fact of having it isn't better.

Then I would go with a Lamborghini Murcielago bodykit but that's my personal preference. With your budget you would be alright and you could also upgrade what's under the hood. Or buy a replica of the rare Lamborghini Reventon Roadster.

Do you think this one is real or a replica?

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If somebody put those wheels on a real one they should be shot.

They have to cut the price down somewhere. lol.gif

Well, they sure know how to make a replica an obvious replica.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

QUOTE (Gnarlton Banks @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:31)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:29)
QUOTE (Gnarlton Banks @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:27)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:11)
QUOTE (Tycek @ Friday, Feb 22 2013, 23:44)
With only purpose of show off, why not get Toyota MR2 and dress it up with F355 bodykit? Many people won't see difference anyway and you can get quasi Ferrari with japanese quality for few thousands pounds.

I know it won't be real deal, but buying Ferrari just for fact of having it isn't better.

Then I would go with a Lamborghini Murcielago bodykit but that's my personal preference. With your budget you would be alright and you could also upgrade what's under the hood. Or buy a replica of the rare Lamborghini Reventon Roadster.

Do you think this one is real or a replica?

user posted image

If somebody put those wheels on a real one they should be shot.

They have to cut the price down somewhere. lol.gif

Well, they sure know how to make a replica an obvious replica.

I actually posted that picture for the OP to respond and test out if he really knew what he is talking about. You sure do.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:48 PM

I hear ya.

If he didn't know the difference, the people he knows probably wouldn't either.
The one you posted seems fairly decent, but besides the wheels, the awful fit and finish of the headlights is a painful giveaway.

My friends uncle had a V8 Countach replica based on a VW chassis, I think that one would have been obvious even to the blind. tounge.gif

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:02 AM

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I never said i wanted to show of, i simply love driving the damn things smile.gif


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Im 18 years old yeah i might be young, maybe to young to even have a Ferrari

But here is the thing :
I have looked up all the prices for having and owning a Ferrari 360,

I hope to maybe, just maybe make some money from youtube (nothing i realy count on but still)


Ok here is the thought for you people that dont get why im gonna by a Ferrari:
So as some of you might know, i have Facebook-page and a YouTube-channel (in my signature)
I hope to make the best videos to upload on YouTube

I hope to catch the beuti of Europe, and maybe later the USA and Asia to the rest of the world, that dont have the ability or the time to travel around the world

and share some of the most important motor-events and other things like museums and car shows


Some exemples:
2013
FlygvapenmuseumAirforcemuseum in sweden
SAAB-museum in Trollhättan (Sweden)
Monaco Gran Prix (in 3 months)
Swedish Vallåkraträffen (alot, or mostly of american cars)
Bologna Motor Show (in December)

Then i hope to do a trip to "Trollstigen" in Norway

have planned Geneva International Motorshow in march 2014

and alot more to come

And yeah, sure, i can use my SAAB, but how much that i love that car, i gotta have something that stands out (ofcourse i will keep my SAAB wink.gif )
But since i got some $€£ roling in, i though this would be a good thing to spend them on.

i am gonna spend 4000 on camera-equipment

remeber to check my Page and the Channel out, it will be realy cool cool.gif



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:16 AM

Man, while it's good to have dreams, I wouldn't post about it til you're 100% about to pull the trigger. Otherwise, you just look foolish. I think a lot of us here can say we've been close to achieving some huge goal only for life to throw a huge curveball at us.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:22 AM Edited by Chris CJ Jakobsson, 23 February 2013 - 12:24 AM.

QUOTE (Lurch @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:16)
Man, while it's good to have dreams, I wouldn't post about it til you're 100% about to pull the trigger. Otherwise, you just look foolish. I think of us here can say we've been close to achieving some huge goal only for life to throw a huge curveball at us.

belive me i know all that, but i gonna do a job next week, then i have some things to do the month after

when the money is on my credit card, im good to go, alien.gif

trust me smile.gif


Edit:
i have already ordered €2000 worth of cameras, which are coming next week.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:37 AM Edited by Raavi, 23 February 2013 - 12:39 AM.

QUOTE (Chris CJ Jakobsson @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 01:22)
QUOTE (Lurch @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:16)
Man, while it's good to have dreams, I wouldn't post about it til you're 100% about to pull the trigger. Otherwise, you just look foolish. I think of us here can say we've been close to achieving some huge goal only for life to throw a huge curveball at us.

belive me i know all that, but i gonna do a job next week, then i have some things to do the month after

when the money is on my credit card, im good to go, alien.gif

trust me smile.gif


Edit:
i have already ordered €2000 worth of cameras, which are coming next week.

Have you considered the price of owning and maintaining a ferrari (e.g. oil changes, maintenance, gas, insurance etc). Especially when buying a used ferrari you will have to spit out at least another few thousand on replacing parts. The car is also very thirsty if you understand what I mean. In total you will have to pay about 5k the first few years. And the older the car gets, the rarer the parts the more expensive.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:45 AM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:37)
QUOTE (Chris CJ Jakobsson @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 01:22)
QUOTE (Lurch @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 00:16)
Man, while it's good to have dreams, I wouldn't post about it til you're 100% about to pull the trigger. Otherwise, you just look foolish. I think of us here can say we've been close to achieving some huge goal only for life to throw a huge curveball at us.

belive me i know all that, but i gonna do a job next week, then i have some things to do the month after

when the money is on my credit card, im good to go, alien.gif

trust me smile.gif


Edit:
i have already ordered €2000 worth of cameras, which are coming next week.

Have you considered the price of owning and maintaining a ferrari (e.g. oil changes, maintenance, gas, insurance etc). Especially when buying a used ferrari you will have to spit out at least another few thousand on replacing parts. The car is also very thirsty if you understand what I mean. In total you will have to pay about 5k the first few years. And the older the car gets, the rarer the parts the more expensive.

yes i have smile.gif as i said,its all worked out.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE (Chris CJ Jakobsson @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 01:45)
yes i have  smile.gif as i said,its all worked out.

I find that very hard to believe. I've got thousands squirreled away, a relatively high paying job, quite low outgoings et cetera. I'm not wealthy but I'm certainly earning decently above the average. There's no tangible way I'd be able to afford to run a Ferrari in my current state. Let's do a little comparison game. I could afford- at a push- to run something like an E39 or even E60 M5; in either case you'd be looking £1-2000 a year for maintenance, servicing et al. A set of brake disks and pads is £1,000 for OEM parts. On a Ferrari, times that by two- at least. A set of rear tyres will be about a grand. Insurance in Sweden is pretty expensive- what, about £600 for an average family saloon? I can see you paying five to ten times that a year. God help you if you need a new set of suspension springs, because the cost will be in the thousands. New exhaust? Five grand, easily. Spread your £35,000 purchase price over three years, that's about £14,000 a year including interest (as I presume you don't just have £30k sitting in the bank). Between an annual service at a specialist (say £3,000 if nothing needs doing), a set of brake disks and pads (£2,000 for the sake of argument), a set of tyres all round £1,800. That makes nearly £21k a year for three years before you even factor in fuel, insurance or any other costs. That's about half my GROSS salary at almost ten years older than you written off, before accounting for tax, living expenses, rent, food, bills or anything else.

No, there's no way you could feasibly do it at 18 unless you were absurdly rich like Outcast is.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

Sivi, just to bring out...you live in England, where there is a tax on every damn thing, stuff is expensive, especially for cars, so i can understand that even a wealthier bloke couldn't come out with such money. Sweden is different i suppose, like where i live...you can gather money over a period and actually invest it into something nice, and don't have to pay out of the world sums to drive it. The parts may be expensive and the gas mileage or whatever isnt good at all, but other than that he should come through. He said he had figured out the money issues...well, i believe he has, but just for the sure side, more money should be left over or gathered for unexpected outgoings.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:37 AM Edited by sivispacem, 23 February 2013 - 11:41 AM.

Taxation in Sweden is much, much higher than in the UK.

VAT- 25% instead of 20%
Income tax- Up to 60%, instead of 45%

Just two examples. They also have higher taxes on vehicles, and insurance costs are about the same.

Due to the higher VAT, parts would be around 5% more expensive, even if all else was equal. Obtaining parts would probably be more difficult and thus incur more additional cost. I'm not sure how bad the state of Ferrari spare parts is in Sweden, but here in the UK, where we have many large and small Ferrari-sponsored dealers and retailers all over the country, not to mention many committed marque specialist garages, they're still cripplingly expensive.

As an example:

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See Sweden right up the top there, with the highest tax revenues as a percentage of GDP? That means they pay the most tax in real, economy-adjusted terms.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

When it comes to part, well, thats why i doubt about for exemple the 348 and 355, where you HAVE TO get the engine out to replace the timing belt

Thats thy im thinking of the 360, where you can change the timing belt from inside the car

I got 100,000 swedish kronor (£10,000) saved, and i have 350,000 swedish kronor (about £35,000) coming in next week

I can find plenty good condition Ferrari 360's for €35,000 - €45,000 (thats EURO not GBP)

if i could find one for €35,000 , which is less then 300,000 swedish kronor (or £30,000), then i got more then 150,000 swedish kronor (£15,000) to spend on all thats needed.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:03 PM Edited by sivispacem, 23 February 2013 - 12:07 PM.

Sorry, most decent 360s here are pushing £60k. A £30k example will be a dog.

Do you live with your parents or something? Or in some kind of strange, semi-lucid dream world? Do you not have any other outgoings or expenditures save for hypothetical cars? How much do you earn in an average month, and doing what? It's completely feasible for a Ferrari 360 to eat thirty grand in maintenance costs in a year, should you put your money on the wrong one. You need, in my view, an annual salary of at least £100,000 to purchase and maintain even an undesirable Ferrari like a 308 GT4 or Mondial. Well, you do if you have any other outgoings to speak of. Is all this money that's suddenly and mystically appearing in your life tax-free?

It's all very strange and very suspect if you ask me.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

Maybe some could give me a better suggestion then, instead of hating

oh and BTW, arent the road tax highr n modern car in the UK?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:18 PM Edited by sivispacem, 23 February 2013 - 12:21 PM.

QUOTE (Chris CJ Jakobsson @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 13:06)
Maybe some could give me a better suggestion then, instead of hating

For what? For an 18 year old with a bit of cash to drive?

Well, if you want a proper sports car that you could feasibly and meaningfully maintain on a realistic salary for a young man, I'd probably nominate a Porsche 993 or 996. Running costs are still catastrophic, but far less so than a Ferrari. They also require much less persistent maintenance. Did they sell Nobles on the continent? An M12-GTO would weigh in at about two-thirds of your Ferrari budget, and about 20% of it to maintain, but every bit as fun to drive if not more so. Then there's the usual procession of fast saloons and front-engined sports cars- everything from your Jaguar XK to your BMW M3, Mercedes C63 or E55 AMG. Then there's more attainable classics that don't cost the earth to keep running and still offer great performance- Porsche 944 Turbo, Audi UR Quattro. Hell, you could probably run any two selected cars from that list for less than you could a single 348 or 355. Or any three for the purchase and running costs of a 550M over 3 years.

In fact, why don't you actually properly and reasonably describe your financial situation, driving experience, requirements and tastes, and we'll produce some suggestions. I can't see many Ferrari owners- particularly owners of classic prancing horses, accusing people of "hating", can you?

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oh and BTW, arent the road tax highr n modern car in the UK?

The simple answer is "it varies". Generally, on performance cars, yes, but there are four bands: the pre-1973 "historic" vehicles that are completely exempt, the pre-2001 band (cheap and slightly less cheap), the pre-2006 band (slightly less cheap and slightly more expensive) and the post-2006 bands (from zero to absurd).

You've made the comment several times that there are x "good" ones for y price. How do you know that? Are you a classic cars expert? Do you have enough mechanical knowledge to tell a diamond from a dog?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:27 PM Edited by Chris CJ Jakobsson, 23 February 2013 - 12:30 PM.

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QUOTE (Chris CJ Jakobsson @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 13:06)
Maybe some could give me a better suggestion then, instead of hating

For what? For an 18 year old with a bit of cash to drive?

Well, if you want a proper sports car that you could feasibly and meaningfully maintain on a realistic salary for a young man, I'd probably nominate a Porsche 993 or 996. Running costs are still catastrophic, but far less so than a Ferrari. They also require much less persistent maintenance. Did they sell Nobles on the continent? An M12-GTO would weigh in at about two-thirds of your Ferrari budget, and about 20% of it to maintain, but every bit as fun to drive if not more so. Then there's the usual procession of fast saloons and front-engined sports cars- everything from your Jaguar XK to your BMW M3, Mercedes C63 or E55 AMG. Then there's more attainable classics that don't cost the earth to keep running and still offer great performance- Porsche 944 Turbo, Audi UR Quattro. Hell, you could probably run any two selected cars from that list for less than you could a single 348 or 355. Or any three for the purchase and running costs of a 550M over 3 years.

In fact, why don't you actually properly and reasonably describe your financial situation, driving experience, requirements and tastes, and we'll produce some suggestions. I can't see many Ferrari owners- particularly owners of classic prancing horses, accusing people of "hating", can you?

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oh and BTW, arent the road tax highr n modern car in the UK?

The simple answer is "it varies". Generally, on performance cars, yes, but there are four bands: the pre-1973 "historic" vehicles that are completely exempt, the pre-2001 band (cheap and slightly less cheap), the pre-2006 band (slightly less cheap and slightly more expensive) and the post-2006 bands (from zero to absurd).

What i want something I like, rear wheel drive, V8 or V12 and 2-door. european is a must (even though i dont mind american cars)

Well, i study to machanick smile.gif and i did a practice on a exclusive dealership (mostly Bentleys, Astons and Fiskers)

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:16 PM

Reading that description I thought "CL600". C215 generation, you'd be looking at under £10k for an absolute minter. Running costs are steep, but nothing like what a, say, 355 or 308 GTB would cost to run.

Wait, so you're 18, you've studied to be a mechanic, worked at a luxury dealership, own a McDonalds branch and get paid to act? Right.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 14:16)
Reading that description I thought "CL600". C215 generation, you'd be looking at under £10k for an absolute minter. Running costs are steep, but nothing like what a, say, 355 or 308 GTB would cost to run.

Wait, so you're 18, you've studied to be a mechanic, worked at a luxury dealership, own a McDonalds branch and get paid to act? Right.

Yes im 18

Yeah i do study colgate.gif

No i only work at Mcdonalds biggrin.gif great workplace by the way.

only practised at a Dealership i dont know if thats the right term in english but it involves the same as working but i dont get paid (well, paid in knowledge hehe )


Well, i want to be an actor, i been in theatre/acting-school since 8 years back (same acting-school as the swedish actor Stellan Skarsård was in icon14.gif )

and some times i get acting calls. did the audition last week and got the part for , "god knows what it is" sarcasm.gif i havnt got the script yet bored.gif


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Oh and thats a pretty good suggestion actually

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

Something like this might be more realistic for you, you can even get a 1.8L engine, how about that for power?

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Where are you getting £35,000 from in a week?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:38 PM Edited by Garfield 2, 23 February 2013 - 04:42 PM.

QUOTE (Cursed @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 16:35)
Something like this might be more realistic for you, you can even get a 1.8L engine, how about that for power?

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Where are you getting £35,000 from in a week?

The tooth fairy of course. Collecting other people's teeth for the past 18 years will finally pay off.

Maybe he won in the lottery. You never know. I certainly wouldn't tell anyone on these forums if I did.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

Yeah, I don't know your surrounding circumstances but you have the bar set absurdly, ridiculously, extremely high for a McDonalds employee.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (Cursed @ Saturday, Feb 23 2013, 16:35)
Something like this might be more realistic for you, you can even get a 1.8L engine, how about that for power?

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Where are you getting £35,000 from in a week?

its an acting job (my 5th one) no one fitted the role better then me, well some guy did bu he coudnt make it dont know why..
which is 12 hour a day job for 8 days so a litle more then a week



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:23 PM

So, that 365 quid per hour? Nice pay. I did some acting here for the TV Series "Vikings" and only got paid 150 per day.

Gotta renew my premium membership on Starnow confused.gif I enjoy acting.




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