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Poll: Is It Real That Claude Speaks in That Trailer? (66 member(s) have cast votes)

Is It Real That Claude Speaks in That Trailer?

  1. Yes, it is (7 votes [11.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.67%

  2. Don't know (6 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. No, it isn't (43 votes [71.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.67%

  4. Doesn't matter/Other (4 votes [6.67%])

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#91

Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 00:08)
The video is not fake, the only fake thing here are Rockstar's poor lies.

Can you prove that R* lied? I want to see some proof.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:47 PM

I asked this question two years ago and here's what R* said:
http://www.rockstarg...claude-dar.html

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This is fake. This is an old bit of gameplay footage, for sure, but we think the voices were added at a later date by someone online as at no point did we plan for Claude to have a voice or even design how a speaking protagonist would be implemented until Vice City.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:20 AM

QUOTE (_____ @ Saturday, Mar 2 2013, 22:42)
QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 00:08)
The video is not fake, the only fake thing here are Rockstar's poor lies.

Can you prove that R* lied? I want to see some proof.

There's no need to prove anything, you just have to use common sense.

Every video you see of this very trailer have this "Get out of the car" line, if this is fake, why don't Rockstar show us the real thing? Why have we neve seen a version of this very trailer without this line?

Also, is it really absurd to think that they used a GTA 2 line to voice Claude? Because if you compare, you'll see that a lot of sounds from GTA 1, London Packs and 2 were reused on GTA III and are still being used on the series.

This ain't the first time Rockstar lied, thou'.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:24 AM

Wasn't that first trailer leaked, it was most likely leaked without audio and someone added gta 2 audio into it.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:26 AM

Exactly, R* lied about buses too wink.gif

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:32 AM Edited by PK_LT, 16 March 2013 - 10:15 PM.

QUOTE (dro0001 @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 00:24)
Wasn't that first trailer leaked, it was most likely leaked without audio and someone added gta 2 audio into it.

As far as I know, Rockstar has never made any trailer without sound.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 09:34 AM

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 03:20)
Every video you see of this very trailer have this "Get out of the car" line, if this is fake, why don't Rockstar show us the real thing? Why have we neve seen a version of this very trailer without this line?

This ain't the first time Rockstar lied, thou'.

I don't even know where the original came from and how trusty the source is. They won't show us the real thing because they might not even have it anymore.

Show me some proof. Otherwise the lie is on you.

QUOTE (Filip454 @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 03:26)
Exactly, R* lied about buses too wink.gif

Show me the exact quote.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

Lux, it is somewhere in Q&A, they said there were no buses. I will search for it.

This trailer came from gouranga, which is VERY VERY Trusty source - it was the first website that had the first clip with animation leaked.

Then was the IGN turn to add their watermarks to this movie.

On my site there is movie without any watermarks in its original form from Gouranga. It was made by Rockstar. Listen, if it was made by gamers - it would obtain new, unheard sounds, not sounds from GTA 2.

This sound is directly from the game - you can hear this in the city scenes with cars etc.

As we know R* put GTA 2 sounds at first so it was the stage of sound programming so there were some sounds from GTA 2 left wink.gif

And about the quality - guys, it was 2001.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:58 AM Edited by PK_LT, 03 March 2013 - 11:30 AM.

QUOTE (_____ @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 09:34)
QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 03:20)
Every video you see of this very trailer have this "Get out of the car" line, if this is fake, why don't Rockstar show us the real thing? Why have we neve seen a version of this very trailer without this line?

This ain't the first time Rockstar lied, thou'.

I don't even know where the original came from and how trusty the source is. They won't show us the real thing because they might not even have it anymore.

Show me some proof. Otherwise the lie is on you.


I have never found any edited trailer, so why this one can be edited?!

During the development of GTA III, Rockstar could have extracted all GTA 2 sounds and used them for GTA III, and also they could have used some pedestrian's voice from GTA 2 as Claude's voice. But later, they could have removed all GTA 2 sounds out from GTA III, and also they could have removed Claude's voice too and then, made new sounds for GTA III.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:12 AM

See, you're just spreading misinformation. R* have never said "there were no school buses" in the Q&A.

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That beta "school bus" looks pretty much the same as the final bus; the only major difference is the paint job.


As for the video, I don't see why R* would lie intentionally. They either don't remember using the voice sample or someone else added it. How do you know Gouranga was a trusty website and how do you know the video was first posted there?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:24 AM Edited by Filip454, 03 March 2013 - 11:39 AM.

OMG, that's not this quote. Stop seeding sh*t... Man.

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That beta "school bus" looks pretty much the same as the final bus; the only major difference is the paint job.


Paint Job? Pretty much the same? Have you even seen this screenshot?
It looks exactly like school bus from the garbage in retail version.
Look.

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If it isn't school bus, then what is it?

Remember that the same bus is in the garbage (sort of RIP made by R*)

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As for the video, I don't see why R* would lie intentionally. They either don't remember using the voice sample or someone else added it. How do you know Gouranga was a trusty website and how do you know the video was first posted there?


They don't remember, cause they simply don't know. R* is too big company.
It was DMA so we must ask DMA, not R*, which has 10% of DMA.

How do I know? I know, simple, if you have been watching the GTA scene from the beginning, then you should know the date it has been added.
It was website with many leaks.
Gouranga was even hosted by R* and ASC Games.

And it is a trusty website, cause there is more info than on the whole GTAforums and other websites. It was being written since 1997.

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#102

Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

Which one is it then? Why am I even taking you seriously if you don't have the courtesy to back up your claims?

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#103

Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:41 AM

Lol, you want some proof that I was reading Gouranga back then? OMG Read the news.

I'm searching for it. I Don't have f*cking database of R* quotes.

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#104

Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:41 AM

Guys, wouldn't it be cool to make the mod which makes Claude say "Get out of the car!" when he steals the car?

All we need to do, to extract the pedestrian's quote "Get out of the car, man!" from GTA 2 audio files, cut the "man" word, add it to GTA III audio files and use it for Claude when he steals the car.

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#105

Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:46 AM

That bus could fall in the "cosmetic details" category, so they didn't lie basically.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:54 AM Edited by Filip454, 03 March 2013 - 11:57 AM.

Deleting the whole model isn't COSMETIC DETAILS.

Anyway look, I found the quote mentioned by me:

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All we need to do, to extract the pedestrian's quote "Get out of the car, man!" from GTA 2 audio files, cut the "man" word, add it to GTA III audio files and use it for Claude when he steals the car.


Yes, exactly like in my old video. We could get this, but as I remember it already is in beta bank I've uploaded here and I think it was being played when car thief is going to get your vechicle wink.gif

http://dl.dropbox.co...P454release.rar

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:10 PM

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As for the video, I don't see why R* would lie intentionally. They either don't remember using the voice sample

You said it all, it's weird that Rockstar lied for such a trivial thing, they possibly don't remember.

QUOTE (_____ @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 09:34)
Show me some proof. Otherwise the lie is on you.

What do you expect me to do? bored.gif
Show you a video of Dan Houser and Sam Houser recording themselves, and admitting in tears of sadness how much they lied about the A&A and are repentant for that? suicidal.gif

I don't understand why you are so skeptical to nearly everything. confused.gif

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#108

Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE (Filip454 @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 14:54)
Deleting the whole model isn't COSMETIC DETAILS.

Anyway look, I found the quote mentioned by me:

http://images49.foto...dd434e52gen.jpg

I already posted the whole thing on the previous page. They said "cosmetic changes - car details". The bus can be included there.
They denied the other stuff about children, Donald Love, and the twin towers.

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Sunday, Mar 3 2013, 15:10)
I don't understand why you are so skeptical to nearly everything.  confused.gif

I don't believe things people say right away, it's natural. You kept calling R* liars without actually backing up your claims, and as it turns out those "lies" are easily debunked.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:52 PM Edited by Filip454, 03 March 2013 - 03:56 PM.

Sorry, but you have no proof that they could count it as COSMETIC Changes.

+ deleting whole model is not cosmetic change, unlike cop face texture or cop car color.

With the trailer they simply lied - they've said that it was made by some ppl and they don't even know that it was done by DMA.

There were no children, but school bus has been proven and no - it can't be counted to cosmetic change.

End of topic.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:02 PM

Yes, it can count as a cosmetic change. Both buses are quite similar. They didn't have to delete the model, they simply expanded on it.

You see, you make up stuff again. They didn't say the trailer was made by someone else. They said they think someone else added that sample. They "think", so they probably don't remember. They didn't lie, stop saying that.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:15 PM Edited by Filip454, 03 March 2013 - 04:21 PM.

Yes, I make up stuff. This bus is can't be even compared to this in the final stage...

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Here's your sh*tty grey School bus that was put in the game to exchange school bus.
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BTW you can see the city was going to be a lot bigger.

I don't give a sh*t, you have no proof that they counted it as cosmetic change.

http://gouranga.com/nf-info-gta3.htm

This is school bus, not normal bus. Again. Here's the proof. Read some Gouranga and then comment.

And btw. You are so stupid - school bus is even lying in the garbage near destruction crane.

+ normal buses yellow? WTF?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

You have a poor understanding of the English language I'm afraid. You are not only making up stuff R* never said but now you are also making up stuff that I never said.

Both buses are quite similar, look at them. They didn't have to delete the beta bus, they simply altered the model and texture probably because they weren't satisfied with the beta bus. So what if they used the beta as garbage? What does that prove exactly?

Also, keep in mind that R* denied changes made because of 9/11 in that Q&A.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:34 PM Edited by Filip454, 03 March 2013 - 04:37 PM.

You have lack of logical thinking. Talking with you is like throwing the ball against the wall.

You have screens with this f*cking bus but you still talk like you haven't seen anything.

Even school bus lights match.

Yes, they are similar because they both are buses, the problem is that the beta bus is school bus. Notice the upper headlights.

9/11 is bullsh*t, but school bus isn't.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

I looked at them and they look very similar to me. Deleting the beta model doesn't make sense. They would have had to start modeling the bus again from scratch in that case which is counter productive.

I don't even know why we are arguing about buses. Who says it was changed because of 9/11?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:40 PM Edited by Filip454, 03 March 2013 - 04:43 PM.

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Also, keep in mind that R* denied changes made because of 9/11 in that Q&A.


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What does that prove exactly?


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Deleting the beta model doesn't make sense. They would have had to start modeling the bus again from scratch in that case which is counter productive.


It was remodelled, it doesn't have to be deleted. I meant delete like throwing the exact car out of the game.

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#116

Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:44 PM

What's your point?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:46 PM Edited by Filip454, 03 March 2013 - 04:57 PM.

Changing car name and remodelling it doesn't mean it is a cosmetic change.

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#118

Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:50 PM

It doesn't even matter. They were talking about 9/11 changes. Who says the bus was changed as a result of 9/11?

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#119

Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:57 PM

Nobody, but you said something about 9/11.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 05:02 PM

You said that R* denied changing the bus. I asked for proof and you gave me a quote about 9/11 changes. So yeah, R* didn't lie.




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