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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (The General @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 19:17)
I'm also glad Sony took a shot at MS. This gen was way to friendly between these two companies. I want them to try to out do each other.

Yeah, I laughed out loud when he went "And while others have shifted their message and changed their story, we were consistent in maintaining policies and model that were fair and in tune with consumer desires."

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:31 PM

I'm going to laugh my ass off if this thing flops for whatever reason, with them taking those shots at MS lol.gif

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:33 PM

QUOTE (Erebos @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 19:31)
I'm going to laugh my ass off if this thing flops for whatever reason, with them taking those shots at MS lol.gif

Well .. they have already sold over million units..
I .. don't think that it will flop.

But hey, anything is possible.
Major "You cannot flick the online requirement off like that, it is built in" Nelson proved that.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:07 PM

Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:14 PM

Sony still still has the lead by far.

Better Hardware, better Online offering, imo better Games, better Indies and so on

I dont trust MS. They showed that they have no faith in their own console by making 180 turns all the time with the X1

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:27 PM

QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:27)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

Yet they're still above Xbox One. That's not really a good reason.

I mean what's really different about Xbone and PS4? The TV service? Well I can just get the X1 from Comcast.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:44 PM

I like your sig.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:33 PM

At least 10 games shown I have more interest in compared to any XBONE game ( yes most of those games are on the PC, but I have a vita and yes I do love it, so having that remote play and even cross buy ( buy ps4 and vita version for the price of 1) is just too good to pass)

One thing is for certain, next year E3 is gonna be big ( if SONY don't announce anything till then, with NG, SSM and the other many devs they have making AAA games) so having these AAA exclusives and multi plat games mixed with the large variety of unique and varied indie games is awesome and will make the wait for the next big SONY exclusive a lot easier.

Oh god, did you see that game RIME? ICO feels all over, looked so good.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:56 PM

Pretty average display, but not terrible by any means.

Hyped for Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, personally. Dear Esther was incredible, and it's good to see the developers partner with Sony. They've been stealing so many hearts lately. Love it. Over 180 games in development for PS4. Would have been nice to see more AAA first-party games, but it's still early. The conference could have been a lot worse.

Soooo good to know that there's native Twitch.tv support now. But with Xbone also utilizing Twitch.tv, I'm worried about their servers' bandwidth. They have trouble keeping the site in one piece on PC alone.

Also, dunno if you guys saw, but PS4 is launching in 16 more countries than Xbone.
Things keep looking good for the console.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:16 PM

QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:31)
QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:27)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

Yet they're still above Xbox One. That's not really a good reason.

I mean what's really different about Xbone and PS4? The TV service? Well I can just get the X1 from Comcast.

I would love to tell you that the Xbox One is getting a lot of pre orders after this Gamescom

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 17:16)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:31)
QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:27)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

Yet they're still above Xbox One. That's not really a good reason.

I mean what's really different about Xbone and PS4? The TV service? Well I can just get the X1 from Comcast.

I would love to tell you that the Xbox One is getting a lot of pre orders after this Gamescom

I would love to hear some citation on that.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:48 PM

Why the hell is Sony giving Microsoft a head start

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (billy james @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 22:48)
Why the hell is Sony giving Microsoft a head start

Dat confidence. wink.gif

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:19 PM

So did they announce anything new? I don't watch Gamescom lol.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:38 PM

QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:31)
QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:27)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

Yet they're still above Xbox One. That's not really a good reason.

I mean what's really different about Xbone and PS4? The TV service? Well I can just get the X1 from Comcast.

Um, excuse me? Sony's winning the next gen console war? I don't think so sir. Microsoft is definitely back in the game after Gamescom. I never even liked the PS4 and it's exclusives anyway. Maybe it's just me but I like the Xbox One exclusives better. The PS4 may have had a head start at E3, but right now M$ is kicking Sony's ass forsure.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (GoldDigga @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 23:38)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:31)
QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:27)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

Yet they're still above Xbox One. That's not really a good reason.

I mean what's really different about Xbone and PS4? The TV service? Well I can just get the X1 from Comcast.

Um, excuse me? Sony's winning the next gen console war? I don't think so sir. Microsoft is definitely back in the game after Gamescom. I never even liked the PS4 and it's exclusives anyway. Maybe it's just me but I like the Xbox One exclusives better. The PS4 may have had a head start at E3, but right now M$ is kicking Sony's ass forsure.

Outside of pre-orders, that's debatable. Plenty of people would rather spend $400 on a next-gen system than $500 with packaged Kinect they'll just ignore. As for the European Xbox One + FIFA14 bundle, buying a PS4 with FIFA14 is still cheaper than an Xbox One.

Like Sony said in their conference, they've always been consistent in their vision.


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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:57 AM

The irony when a Asian company do not give a release date for their own territory. If the ps4 only launch in 2015 similar to xbox one in singapore then I'll just stick to PC

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:14 AM

QUOTE (kudoboi @ Wednesday, Aug 21 2013, 01:57)
The irony when a Asian company do not give a release date for their own territory. If the ps4 only launch in 2015 similar to xbox one in singapore then I'll just stick to PC

There's no demand yet for the console in Asia. PS3 has barely any competition. I assume they're waiting for TGS to announce more countries.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:35 AM

QUOTE (sublimelabs @ Wednesday, Aug 21 2013, 02:14)
QUOTE (kudoboi @ Wednesday, Aug 21 2013, 01:57)
The irony when a Asian company do not give a release date for their own territory. If the ps4 only launch in 2015 similar to xbox one in singapore then I'll just stick to PC

There's no demand yet for the console in Asia. PS3 has barely any competition. I assume they're waiting for TGS to announce more countries.

And any idea what date is tgs?

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:12 AM

QUOTE (kudoboi @ Wednesday, Aug 21 2013, 12:57)
The irony when a Asian company do not give a release date for their own territory. If the ps4 only launch in 2015 similar to xbox one in singapore then I'll just stick to PC

I don't know why you're even asking this, you obviously hate consoles, all I ever see you post is bitching about consoles terrible graphics and how ugly it looks, and the unbearable 30 frames per second.

You were never going to buy a PS4 or Xbox One, and it doesn't make sense to post in here, I suspect it was just another reason to bitch about consoles.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:12 AM

I have my day one already paid off. Now the wait...

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE (kudoboi @ Wednesday, Aug 21 2013, 01:57)
The irony when a Asian company do not give a release date for their own territory. If the ps4 only launch in 2015 similar to xbox one in singapore then I'll just stick to PC

You know you don't have to wait till 2015 to get the console right? I don't know if you're aware but there is no region lock anymore, that means you can just import the console.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:11 PM

AMD: PS4 performance advantage over XB1 bigger than many expect thanks to hUMA

QUOTE (Google translation)
Although AMD hardware is in both next game consoles Xbox One and PlayStation 4, only the Playstation 4 will support hUMA technology for shared memory access. This explained AMD's senior product marketing manager Marc Diana opposite c't at Gamescom. This is likely the 3D performance of the Playstation 4 is still much more put on the Xbox One, as adopted at the current level. AMD finally sees the heterogeneous uniform memory access as the key to the tremendous increase in performance of composite processors. AMD's future desktop processors combined the Kaveri series set on Huma.

Behind the scenes c't could also capture developers unofficial voices that see the 3D performance of the Playstation 4 very far from that of the Xbox One.

Back in April, AMD said manager Phil Rogers opposite c't that Huma specifically designed to accelerate 3D rendering performance, "game developers wanted to use extremely large textures for some years, but until now had to be a whole lot of tricks use, parts large textures to pack into smaller textures. because today must first be in a separate area of physical memory a texture before the GPU can process them. Huma with applications can deal more efficiently with textures. "More details to HUMA want to reveal to its developers conference in November AMD. (MFI)


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I never believed the rumour that PS4 being 40 % powerful than Xbox one but it seems it's real after-all.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:28 PM Edited by Distrom, 21 August 2013 - 12:38 PM.

QUOTE (GoldDigga @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 19:38)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:31)
QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:27)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

Yet they're still above Xbox One. That's not really a good reason.

I mean what's really different about Xbone and PS4? The TV service? Well I can just get the X1 from Comcast.

Um, excuse me? Sony's winning the next gen console war? I don't think so sir. Microsoft is definitely back in the game after Gamescom. I never even liked the PS4 and it's exclusives anyway. Maybe it's just me but I like the Xbox One exclusives better. The PS4 may have had a head start at E3, but right now M$ is kicking Sony's ass forsure.

Considering XBOX One is 100$ more expensive, I still don't see"M$ is kicking Sony's ass forsure." PS4 will eventually have better exclusives than X1 in a couple of years, it happened with the PS2, with the PS3 and will happen with PS4.

When MS retires the Kinect and lower the price to 400$, then we could talk about a more equal competition or even talk about MS beating Sony.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

The PS3, on this stage(the final years of the PS360), is currently winning 'cause of a bit more horsepower and much better exclusives.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE (UtricularEwe001 @ Wednesday, Aug 21 2013, 14:11)
AMD: PS4 performance advantage over XB1 bigger than many expect thanks to hUMA

QUOTE (Google translation)
Although AMD hardware is in both next game consoles Xbox One and PlayStation 4, only the Playstation 4 will support hUMA technology for shared memory access. This explained AMD's senior product marketing manager Marc Diana opposite c't at Gamescom. This is likely the 3D performance of the Playstation 4 is still much more put on the Xbox One, as adopted at the current level. AMD finally sees the heterogeneous uniform memory access as the key to the tremendous increase in performance of composite processors. AMD's future desktop processors combined the Kaveri series set on Huma.

Behind the scenes c't could also capture developers unofficial voices that see the 3D performance of the Playstation 4 very far from that of the Xbox One.

Back in April, AMD said manager Phil Rogers opposite c't that Huma specifically designed to accelerate 3D rendering performance, "game developers wanted to use extremely large textures for some years, but until now had to be a whole lot of tricks use, parts large textures to pack into smaller textures. because today must first be in a separate area of physical memory a texture before the GPU can process them. Huma with applications can deal more efficiently with textures. "More details to HUMA want to reveal to its developers conference in November AMD. (MFI)


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I never believed the rumour that PS4 being 40 % powerful than Xbox one but it seems it's real after-all.

The raw power advantage of PS4 was never questioned by people familiar with hardware. The only deniers were Xbox fanboys.

However, Xbox One's performance might be salvaged thanks to DirectX 11.2 which supposedly has a novel way of dealing with large textures using something called "tiled resources". It still doesn't make it as powerful as the PS4, but at least it won't be so far behind. We need competition.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:39 PM

Damn InFamous! I need that game, now!

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE (Distrom @ Wednesday, Aug 21 2013, 12:28)
QUOTE (GoldDigga @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 19:38)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:31)
QUOTE (Ibrahimhassounah @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:27)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 20:11)
QUOTE (Ash_735 @ Tuesday, Aug 20 2013, 15:07)
Sony screwed up, they basically handed everything back to Microsoft.

How so? More preorders on PS4 for consoles and games.

Sony is winning and will be the winner of next gen.

PS2 vs Xbox = PS2
PS3 vs 360 = 360 ( Even though the PS3 did have more sold then the 360. Games were better on 360 )
PS4 vs Xbone = PS4

Those pre-orders ? there is some loss of PS4 pre orders after Gamescom

Yet they're still above Xbox One. That's not really a good reason.

I mean what's really different about Xbone and PS4? The TV service? Well I can just get the X1 from Comcast.

Um, excuse me? Sony's winning the next gen console war? I don't think so sir. Microsoft is definitely back in the game after Gamescom. I never even liked the PS4 and it's exclusives anyway. Maybe it's just me but I like the Xbox One exclusives better. The PS4 may have had a head start at E3, but right now M$ is kicking Sony's ass forsure.

Considering XBOX One is 100$ more expensive, I still don't see"M$ is kicking Sony's ass forsure." PS4 will eventually have better exclusives than X1 in a couple of years, it happened with the PS2, with the PS3 and will happen with PS4.

When MS retires the Kinect and lower the price to 400$, then we could talk about a more equal competition or even talk about MS beating Sony.

Ok, maybe I should rephrase that, the XBOX has way better exclusives than the PS4 and that's the reason I'm buying it over the Playstation.




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