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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:01 AM

QUOTE (EscoLehGo @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 01:56)
QUOTE (Lightning Strike @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 01:47)
If you want to masturbate I really have no say in the matter but I do hope that you realise that while you're laying there rubbing yourself I'm enjoying a nice run, or watching an awesome TV show or delving into a good book or engaging in some sort of interesting debate (probably theological since that's always interesting) or just having a great time with the people who are close to me.

Here's the thing bud, I could give a f*ck what you're doing and what your demeanor is while you're doing it when I'm in the midst of a masturbation session. I simply don't care. Why do you care about me and my masturbation session so much? Leave me be, I'm reading all your posts in Richard Simmons' voice at this point.

I don't really care so much about you in particular, more about our society in general. You want to masturbate in drink in a lonely corner that's fine with me.

As I've said do what you want, I really have no place telling you what you should and shouldn't do, but this being a forum and all I thought I'd just list my opinions on the subject. That's all, nothing more. I'm really just trying to understand what makes you do these things since as an asexual, I understand very little about this thing 99.99% of humans have called a sex drive.

And if it's true that porn is addictive (and no, I don't care if you want to subject yourself to that hilarity for months of your life) then it's probably beneficial that those of you that are on the fence about cutting down on the porn and masturbation in general would probably be better of doing so.

Once again, these are my OPINIONS, they are nothing but OPINIONS, if we all had the same OPINIONS the world would be boring, bland and dull.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:10 AM

Jesus christ, this thread

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:16 AM

Lightning Strike:

Alright, I seem to have misjudged you so: sorry if I offended you, however your earlier post offended me too so I hope we're square.

Well, I take your point about the limited time on earth - that's right of course. But do you not see the massive irony in being a video gamer (giant waste of time) on a forum (even more so) in the off topic section (do I need to continue?) TALKING ABOUT (...) masturbation? How's that for a waste of time?

Wasting time is what makes life worth living. And trust me when I say that I devote most of my time to studying and learning new things, expanding my mind, fixing problems. But if you think that that's all one should do in the limited amount of time we have on earth... I just don't agree. That's what robots are for. To do exactly the task they were programmed for. We as living beings have a choice. That's the difference. I choose to choose what I like.

And it doesn't really cost time. Lying awake for 30 minutes or jacking for 30 and then sleeping like a baby makes no difference. Like I said, nature's ambien.

I don't substiute any of what you said for masturbation, neither "learning, evolving or just generally having a good time with those around us". When I'm (almost) ready to sleep I'm done learning for the day. I won't evolve much lying in bed either. And those around me are usually asleep when I go to bed, I'm a night person.

Your sugar point is my last point about excess, just reworded. Like I said, I agree.

Then I think we actually get to the core of the matter, and I do not mean to make fun of you at all: apparently you're a virgin and thus can only make "educated guesses" about a lot of the related subject matter.
But first the point you make at the start of the sentence: "cant be that hard to get a girl", no, it's not (depending on yourself obviously). But at some point - at least that's what happened to me - you realize that sometimes it's better to take care of yourself than to take another cheap stupid soon-to-be hooker up to your place and lower your self-esteem even more. Great girls don't come around by the dozen usually, at least not where I'm from, they're few and far between.
Yes sex is better than masturbation in the very most cases. But both can coexist. You shouldn't bang every stupid slut you can just to prove to yourself how much of a man you are. Many of my friends are like that and they come to me in regular intervals to cry over my shoulder how much they feel like total idiots for having broken up with that one special girl and now only having cheap sluts to f*ck all the time, changing them like underwear.
After many failed relationships I've learned that making yourself dependent from relationships is much worse than masturbating for a while while waiting for a "real" person to have a relationship with.

To be perfectly honest, my guess is you're trying to rationalize sex as a whole away as something unnecessary unless it's for procreation because you aren't getting any, and the first step to that is rationalizing masturbation away. Like I said, you're trying to tell us that acting like a robot (=not acting at all, just learning and working all the time) is a good way to spend a human life. I say that's the worst possible way to waste a human life. Again, yes, sex is good. If it's with the right person - right as in "love" or right as in "really turning on". Not just "meh, I have to cum so I'll just dump it in that cheap slut I found at the corner".

Again man, no offense intended but that's the kind of vibe I'm getting from you, though I may very well be wrong.

Adressing problems? Solving issues? I do that all day long, I don't do it while sleeping or just before that, sorry. Universe? Hand of fate? You're reaching a little now lol.gif



So much for that, now someone else may enlighten the forums about their jacking habits and -philosophy.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:27 AM

Not to derail the direction of this topic or anything but...

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If you ever have any trouble in your quest for a pornless life, then I would strongly recommend meditation. It seems to have helped me in the past with softening the blow of any abrupt or significant lifestyle changes.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:31 AM

QUOTE (baguvix_wanrltw @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 02:16)
Well written post

Yes I suppose you're right that's what I feel like, though that's what I'll always feel about masturbation and sex and all that malarky as I simply have no interests in it, and as I've said dozens of times before there are better things that I could be doing with my time.

Though there is one thing you're slightly wrong about and that is on the topic of my virginity, no I'm not a virgin, well at least not to oral sex. You see way back in secondary school during my final year there was a girl that liked me, like really liked me for me as a person rather than as a sexual object and unfortunately that's what a lot of my peers had taken to seeing her as (understandable as they were sixteen year-old horny boys) so understandably she found comfort in confiding in me.

Then a few weeks after we started dating she wanted to give me a blowjob which she ... did terribly at. I just was not interested at all and it was an unpleasant experience to say the least. Since that time over the next three years I've turned down sex hundreds of times because it's simply not my thing.

I can understand your point of view in a much clearer fashion now though so thank you for this insight into the mind of a person with a sex drive, hopefully you can understand by what I've written down that I geuinly think that sex, at least for me is a complete waste of time. It probably wouldn't feel much better than the oral sex that was performed on me and that was much less pleasurable then let's say reading a book.

Anyway yeah, glad to see that we came to somewhat of a conclusion on the matter and I'm sorry if I offended you earlier it wasn't really my intention to do so and I'm glad to see that we're both mature enough to move past it.


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:34 AM

I need porn, I mean I really need it. I can knock one out just fine without it, but it's not as enjoyable and takes much longer. Unless it's been a long time, in which case a light breeze going up my shorts can make me sling yoghurt like Michael J Fox with a 6 pack of munch bunch.

I need to consistently reduce my levels, otherwise it builds up too much and I just produce buckets. That's not a good time for anybody, especially on the rare occasion I get lucky with a lady. So porn is a way to keep my fluids at safe levels, plus you know, I enjoy boobs and all that malarkey.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:48 AM

Maturity or no maturity, I'm starting to think I need a new member title, something along the lines of "masturbation advocate extraordinaire". Any input welcome lol.gif

On a slightly more serious note:

Sorry for the mistaken interpretation of your "sexual status". As for that girl you mentioned. That sounds like a nice story in itself up till the failed blowjob but why would you let one single not-that-great experience sour your entire perception of something as central to human life (at least in most people's philosophies) as sex? Don't you think that's overreacting? Or did I misinterpret what you said again and that was not your only experience?

But if it was man... I can respect you as some form of Zen master for not f*cking or jacking it for such an - to me - incredibly long amount of time. Seriously, mad props for that, that shows a lot of will (unless you're naturally inclined to have no sex drive - no idea if such a "condition" exists in humans except maybe eunuchs).

But why such a harsh reaction? Are you sure you're not into sex at all or could it have had more to do with her (and/or you) at that particular time? A combination of things, not just "sex sucks"?

I'm just not sure how informed an opinion you can have on sex when you only had one bad tangential experience, never "even" the real thing - in any of the variations I would count at least.

I think you might be robbing yourself of one of the most pleasant, beautiful experiences in life. On purpose. For no good reason at all.

Again that does not mean "find a cheap slut to dump into", but completely giving up on it without even leaving yourself the possibility of one day finding the right person - in terms of love AND sex - I just can't understand that.


If however you have made enough experiences and then really reached that conclusion logically and want to stick by it - ok. Wow, but ok. But did you, did you really?

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:11 AM

QUOTE (baguvix_wanrltw @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 02:48)
Maturity or no maturity, I'm starting to think I need a new member title, something along the lines of "masturbation advocate extraordinaire". Any input welcome lol.gif

On a slightly more serious note:

Sorry for the mistaken interpretation of your "sexual status". As for that girl you mentioned. That sounds like a nice story in itself up till the failed blowjob but why would you let one single not-that-great experience sour your entire perception of something as central to human life (at least in most people's philosophies) as sex? Don't you think that's overreacting? Or did I misinterpret what you said again and that was not your only experience?

But if it was man... I can respect you as some form of Zen master for not f*cking or jacking it for such an - to me - incredibly long amount of time. Seriously, mad props for that, that shows a lot of will (unless you're naturally inclined to have no sex drive - no idea if such a "condition" exists in humans except maybe eunuchs).

But why such a harsh reaction? Are you sure you're not into sex at all or could it have had more to do with her (and/or you) at that particular time? A combination of things, not just "sex sucks"?

I'm just not sure how informed an opinion you can have on sex when you only had one bad tangential experience, never "even" the real thing - in any of the variations I would count at least.

I think you might be robbing yourself of one of the most pleasant, beautiful experiences in life. On purpose. For no good reason at all.

Again that does not mean "find a cheap slut to dump into", but completely giving up on it without even leaving yourself the possibility of one day finding the right person - in terms of love AND sex - I just can't understand that.


If however you have made enough experiences and then really reached that conclusion logically and want to stick by it - ok. Wow, but ok. But did you, did you really?

I suppose it's a bit of both. I too occasionally feel like I need to masturbate but in the end the urge goes away and no longer bothers me for a number of months until it returns.

And no I have been asexual my whole life, it wasn't that experience that made me that way. It was the fact that she tried to make feel good and it felt terrible, even the orgasm just felt wet, yucky and made a mess on the poor girl's shirt. Surprisingly many people have told me that they find it strange that in my entire life I've only orgasmed once and yet, I suppose that's really all the experience that's needed to judge completely and fully whether sex was for me.

It isn't. Will it ever be ? I don't know, maybe one day when I meet a girl I truly care about and want to spend my future with then maybe, just maybe I might develop a ... sex drive as you call it. Though as it stands I'm more abstinent then the Dali Lama and I'm constantly throwing around a thought in my head and though it's a really simply question, it's one that I need others to answer for me.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:43 AM

Bookmarking this for best topic of 2013 next time awards roll around..

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:47 AM

[QUOTE=baguvix_wanrltw,Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 02:18]Oh man I can see I should come to the off topic section more often. This is pure gold.

Of course, imho, 100% trolling. But gold nonetheless. I'm bored so let's get down to it.

The entire linked article seems to be built on things said on this page btw.

[QUOTE]Here are 10 reasons to stop masturbating to internet porn: 1) Internet porn saps you of precious energy[/QUOTE]
Bullsh*t. I don't jack off before working, I jack off before going to sleep. It's nature's ambien. Cum, sleep. And I do certainly not feel less "powerful" the next day. And I still hit the weights and flirt.

The article wasn't a study on you. And it wasn't written with you in mind.

[QUOTE]2) Internet porn can lead to erectile dysfunction - guys in their TWENTIES and even guys in their TEENS are having trouble getting hard without porn[/QUOTE]
Lol that's what all the viagra "spam" in your inbox is for. Seriously though... erectile disfunction in your teen or twen years? Yeah... I have bad news for you. Stopping to watch porn won't fix that.
The other "point" that's supposedly being made here is that only porn would be able to get their cocks up, not real (fe-)males.
My guess: the author of that article has never gotten any pussy in his life. Otherwise he'd know there's a huge difference between f*cking your hand and a girl. Plus as someone else said, it's not necessarily so much the f*cking as the smell, sound, feel, playing around. You can't emulate any of that with your hand.

Your response shows a complete lack of understanding that's not apparent to you yet. I'd feel kind of embarrassed 'correcting' you. Fact of the matter there is an increase erectile dysfunction and your "it didn't happen to me so it doesn't happen" attitude isn't really doing you much favours.

[QUOTE]3) Internet porn will make you will want to stop having sex - Japan is saturated with porn... no desire for sex... lowest birthrate in the world.[QUOTE]
Will make me will want huh? Yeah, that underscores the quality of this article. Other than that that's the same point as above.
However I can see how some people would decide to rather spend a few months masturbating than going out there to find the next retarded slut to bang, and instead wait for a girl they actually like to come along. Is that supposed to be a bad thing now?

I pointed out in the OP that the article is written by a Brucie or Mori Kibbutz. It's not to be taken literally. I sense he's writing to be dramatic or over-emphasising to emphasise his point. There is some truth in the article. Enough that I know it's what I want to pursue.

[QUOTE]4) After you stop masturbating to internet porn your voice may become deeper[/QUOTE]
I'm at Barry White level right now, I'm comfortable, thank you. So if I ever stop masturbating my voice will become so deep it's inaudible to human ears eh? Cool.

....I ignored this one.

[QUOTE]5) After you stop masturbating to internet porn you will have more self control and will power[/QUOTE]
Complete crap. I don't know about you but being "overloaded" has never made me calmer/given me more self control. Will power? No, frustration.

Again, your attitude of "it doesn't happen me, therefore it doesn't happen" makes you sound like you think you are at the centre of the world. Also, not to be taken literally. You can reword that point as "After you give up an (any) addiction, you will have more self-control or power."

[QUOTE]6) After you stop masturbating to internet porn your Testosterone will rise[/QUOTE]
I guess he means testosterone levels. Again, pure quality here. And if they do rise temporarily as "explained", what exactly do I gain from that?!

Look up what testosterone does for you.

[QUOTE]7) After you stop masturbating to internet porn you will become calmer, more rational, and less anxious[/QUOTE]
Sigh, seems he forgot he already tried to make the same point in 5).

I ignored this one.

[QUOTE]8) You will become more attractive to women[/QUOTE]
Right, because ladies love guys who come off completely desperate to come close to anything with a pussy. Andy Botwin said it best in Weeds, there's no way to be calm for a date if you're backed up. He's talking straight out of his ass, claiming his previous points as proof for this one.

Ignored this one.

[QUOTE]9) You can stop getting viruses on your computer[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I have no problem believing that guy is actually f*cking retarded enough to get virii while watching porn. You have to absolutely have no idea about computers, browsers or porn to get that problem. Also they just jailed the guys behind that funny "cop trojan" that asked people to pay 100Ä or so in order to not get punished for having child and/or animal porn on their PCs. So idiots like him can breathe easy now.

So only idiots get viruses? Again, you are being self-centred. The article wasn't written around your life.

[QUOTE]10) If you canít believe me, then take the word of these gentlemen who beat their addiction to internet porn and reaped the benefits[/QUOTE]
Ah, the old "look, these guys say it works" snakeoil pitch. I can also find at least 100 guys who say "god hates fags" but that won't make it true.
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What's the motif? Why would he do that if he's not selling anything? You know why there's still homeless people? Because there's no money to be made off the homeless. Think about it.


Huh, wtf is wrong with the quote tags?! Apparently not jacking off for so long made me stupid.[/QUOTE]
I hate to quote such a mess of a reply but I'll do it anyway. I'll copy and paste the quote from the article and your responses and mine.


Anyway someone awesome sent me this via PM. Check it out. It's amazing. Also, whoever I responded to, watch it. May be you won't be so know-it-all any time something comes up and you try to act like you understand, lol


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:50 AM

Funnily enough when I was a teenager I never really masturbated. It's only been the last couple of years. Typically I do it atleast once a day (sometimes twice), but I can fight the urge pretty well.

I find it more enjoyable thinking back on a sexual encounter. I think xcommunicated said it best. There's only so much porn you can watch before it all starts to become repetitive.

Personally it feels better doing it in bed while reflecting.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 05:05 AM

I tried the *ahem* no-fap challenge last Summer. While I only did it for about 2 weeks I found that I did end up a little more confident during the period of time, was talking to girls more fluently and easily, part of that was because whenever you don't bust for 2 solid weeks you really miss it. Xcommunicated said it nearly perfectly, I think the real problem with excessive porn is whenever you get bored of the regular stuff, whenever people get bored of the regular sex they're watching and start getting into the more aggressive stuff (hitting women, ect.) I don't think porn is necessarily bad for us because it does help sometimes, but like anything else in the world, too much in excess can only come back to hurt you. I would recommend the no-fap challenge to anyone. It really helps you get out there in terms of finding women, giving you confidence and generally making you feel more..how do I say..free? Also if you can't give up masturbation entirely, I think personally just trying to bust it without watching porn does more for you. Like Miami said, reflection time.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 05:28 AM Edited by baguvix_wanrltw, 16 February 2013 - 06:15 AM.

Lightning Strike: fair enough. As long as you keep an open mind about it I don't think there's anything wrong with it, I just wouldn't completely rule it out. But some interesting concepts even though I doubt I could live like that.


ThePinkFloydSound: Damn you for trolling me into writing another lengthy response despite it being 6:11 AM. Good thing I don't have to work today. Alright then....

Before getting back to your points, FYI: I don't know if you wrote that article or not, but you certainly act like you did and are offended by me calling that guy stupid. If you did write it sorry. If you did not, you stated that the guy's opinions do not necessarily reflect your own: fair enough, I never claimed that did I?!?!?!

1) If that guy was writing about himself he's pretty dumb. He should have written "porn saps me of my precious energy" and not tried to claim it was valid for everyone. It is not, just like you said.

2) So you're saying it's normal for teenagers to not get erections? Um.... ok. Are you sure you didn't grow up in Chernobyl or something?!

3) I didn't really look at the site much, just at the article. Now that I did I wish I never wasted time reading that sh*t anyway. What did I expect from some self described "bold & determined" juice head?! That explains the erectile dysfunction part too.

4) So his advice suddenly becomes valid if you apply it to something he wasn't talking about at all? Ah, sorry I didn't realize that. mercie_blink.gif

5) It's not about testosterone as such but about the up and down of the levels he's talking about. From what I can see he simply made a mistake when he tried to quote from the source I mentioned.

6) So only idiots get virii? In 99% of cases: yes. The other 1% is divided between "wasn't careful once" and "targeted attack" both of which can't really be prevented.

7) You don't always have to ask yourself "qui bono?". Sometimes you just gotta ask yourself: is this credible? If the answer is no, qui bono is unnecessary.

8) Dude, how about you watch that video yourself before trying to make me look stupid? He basically said:

- coolidge effect, changing partners are more interesting than constantly the same one. Unbelievable, call the press!!!
- there isn't really much research on the subject of internet porn because they have no control groups because everyone uses it anyway (surprise surprise)
- arousal addiction can look like ADHD, social anxiety, depression, performance anxiety, ocd or actually have these as symptoms; I seem to be lucky again, I have none of those.
- real sex != masturbation; I said that too.
- of all activities on the internet porn has potential to be most addictive. Again, stop the presses. You might end up addicted to something that makes you feel really, really good? No way! Who'd a thunk it!
- excess is bad. Sound familiar?
- constant novelty can cause addiction. orly? Incredible. If you've never heard of imageboards/4chan in particular. If you have that shouldn't have come as a surprise.
- brain changes caused by excess can be - at least partially - undone by stopping excess consumption. That's good news for those suffering from anything like the symptoms that were mentioned.
- if you've really overdone it on the excess and your brain has changed your sexual performance might suffer. Alright, that's possible though fortunately I have no problems in that regard. If you do however you might want to take the hint and overthink it.
- apparently it goes like this: first your taste in porn... "specializes", as in you look for weirder stuff. Then you get less horny overall. Then your dick stops working. Again, luckily that doesn't concern me but if it concerns you, again, the video does make a good point. Once more, it's about excess and "gradual desensitation". It doesn't seem to be a thing that happens overnight so I see no reason to be "scared" of that. If you have any of the symptoms: better start thinking about it. Don't? Go crazy jackin'!
- if you seem to have tons of social issues or were diagnosed with one or more "mental illnesses" there might be a relation to your porn/jerking habits.
- the whole "giving up porn" thing is a social media fad. more and more guys are doing it and telling others to do it too. Do you know that "The Church Of Scientology" keeps gaining members too? And the cult of Apple? So yeah, I'm not impressed. Same thing as all other "they do it too" snake oil pitches. Not evidence of anything.
- internet porn is more dangerous in the above regard than playboy back in the 60s.
- if you're a teenager you should probably moderate your porn use to avoid turning your brain into a bordello and your cock into weak sad little thing.
- then some strange part about people watching porn that doesnt match their sexual orientation and then how their tastes can revert if they stop watching porn... maybe I'm being overly sensitive but that sounds like he's saying homosexuality was just something waiting to be cured too. But I suppose he did not mean to say that at all, he doesn't seem like that kind of person.
- some dude who wasn't able to speak to women at all before quitting to jack off now feels man enough to do it. The dirty little secret: it's just his balls that tell him "talk to her". I added the last part but it seems very obvious... oh and he started a business and playing Piano. Of course we know nothing about how he did with either of those but hey, at least he felt energized so - good. But I doubt that's the same for everyone.
- last point: this talk was about arousal addiction. ADDICTION. as in EXCESS. What did I say the whole f*cking time man?!

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:50 AM Edited by GTASAddict, 16 February 2013 - 07:03 AM.

I'm curious: Does sexual literature (no imagery, just words) constitute as porn?


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE (GTASAddict @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 16:50)
Does sexual literature (no imagery, just words) constitute as porn?

Erotica, no?

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:17 AM

In all seriousness, IMO you can enjoy a little adult entertainment and have a healthy sex life. If you can't balance the two you need to reevaluate. Porn is something I watch maybe once a week, if that. When it becomes every single day multiple times you should probably chill out. It's perfectly healthy and normal and people in here treating it like some heroin addiction is just an excuse for their own lack of a sex life.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Feb 15 2013, 17:10)
I've quitted porn altogether a few years ago.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

May God give you the strength to pull through this, It will truly be the challenge of your lifetime..
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:08 AM

My theory:

While beeing a porn user I think I'm much more looking for girls characters than for their look. You ask why?
Look, if I meet a girl I don't need to think of 'oh god, what do it need to do to make her suck it...', you know this male thoughts we all have... I don't need to think about that cause
I can easily simply put the computer on and 'clean' my mind for a while. This makes me look closer onto the girls character because for a sucessful relationship you don't need the hottest girl, but you need one you can love.

Did I express this well or can you follow this logic?

It's like 'Boy, you don't go to the first date with a loaded weapon! This will f*ck up everything!'.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (Killerdude8 @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 08:25)
May God give you the strength to pull through this, It will truly be the challenge of your lifetime..
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Hardly, there are many far more difficult things in life than not masturbating to porn. Though if you're addicted to it I suppose it'd present a noticeable amount of difficulty but it's nothing like trying to get over the loss of a loved one or finding a new job in this economic climate.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

QUOTE (Lightning Strike @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 21:57)
Hardly, there are many far more difficult things in life than not masturbating to porn. Though if you're addicted to it I suppose it'd present a noticeable amount of difficulty but it's nothing like trying to get over the loss of a loved one or finding a new job in this economic climate.

Wait, what? I haven't read the previous pages, so I'm only basing this off what you've wrote above, but you are asexual, right? So whilst you might find it extremely easy to not masturbate, I'd say that this doesn't apply to everyone.

I tried to not jerk it for a week, and by day 5 I was practically walking around with a pitched tent. The slightest brush of a human against my arm as I was walking down the street almost caused me to orgasm on the spot.

Obviously I'm joking, but it was incredibly hard for me not to do it for a few days. Everyone is different. I'm glad I have a sex drive, but there's plenty of reasons why I wish I didn't as well.
Edit: f*ck. Top of the page.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:01 PM Edited by ThePinkFloydSound, 16 February 2013 - 01:09 PM.

Quoting is f*cked for me so I'll respond in bold.

QUOTE (baguvix_wanrltw @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 06:28)
- coolidge effect, changing partners are more interesting than constantly the same one. Unbelievable, call the press!!!


Why the f*cking attitude? He's obviously giving some background as to why people don't f*cking whack-off to the the one image. You don't seem to realise that not everyone looking at the video has been a horny male teenager. People like some understanding, some background. Obviously it's more relevant in the case where people are masturbating to multiple images, clicking on many links and have many tabs open.

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- there isn't really much research on the subject of internet porn because they have no control groups because everyone uses it anyway (surprise surprise)


Again, you are trying to come off 'smart' here. I don't understand you. This all relevant information to the subject but you think you're going fob it all off and debunk it because the sh*t is particularly relevant to you?

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- arousal addiction can look like ADHD, social anxiety, depression, performance anxiety, ocd or actually have these as symptoms; I seem to be lucky again, I have none of those.


So you are admitting you have arousal addiction. What makes you think you do? We'd love to hear.

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of all activities on the internet porn has potential to be most addictive. Again, stop the presses. You might end up addicted to something that makes you feel really, really good? No way! Who'd a thunk it!

Again, you are showing how immature you are. You sound like an immature teenager and I expected someone to reply with your kind of answers as I mentioned in the OP. Your words paint a picture for other people, I don't actually need to point it out.

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- constant novelty can cause addiction. orly? Incredible. If you've never heard of imageboards/4chan in particular. If you have that shouldn't have come as a surprise.

Yes, the graph shows that at a certain age we look at more 'novelty' porn in order to get our kicks. So once when you thought people sucking a f*cking dogs off was nasty and unheard of, you'll now find that our future generation of grannies and grandads will have had watched animal porn or some sort. And you don't think there's a concern that could lead on to stonger things. What happens when you the novelty porn wears off? Where do you go? Child porn? I'm not saying anyone will but that's f*cking purpose behind the research, you idiot.

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- the whole "giving up porn" thing is a social media fad. more and more guys are doing it and telling others to do it too. Do you know that "The Church Of Scientology" keeps gaining members too? And the cult of Apple? So yeah, I'm not impressed.


Nobody is trying to impress you. Again, you are coming off self-centred. Fact of the matter is, I've been watching porn for about 15 years. I've had internet for about 10. I have come to an age where I'm making a decision for myself. For self-improvement. In my circumstance and in many other peoples circumstances they also want to give it up. I'm not preaching to you. I'm not saying it's bad for you. It's bad for me right now. I feel like I'd be more of a f*cking better human than if using porn multiple times a week. There's evidence to support it can cause issues. Just because you say you are immune to everything, so f*cking what? Don't try come here like you are some sort of authority figure on the subject because you have a dick, a hand and internet porn.

I'm not afraid to talk about my previous drug abuse on this forum but I've tried bad drugs like heroin and crack. Judge me as you will but imagine me going in to a f*cking NA forum and start spouting that heroin is fine, I smoked it a few times and I'm not addicted bla bla bla. Because that's essentially what you are doing.

If you think it's a media fad. Good for you. You clearly think people are doing it to be cool or something. I don't see how it could be cool or anything but I'm guessing because you think it's a media fad, you don't believe these people really want to give it up. So if they really don't want to give it up, why would they try hard to?

Listen man, I'm all for keeping a healthy scepticism when it comes to topical things but your scepticism is way over the top.

But, because I'm a nice guy, I'm going to break it down. My personal experience. Maybe you will learn to understand others a little..

Essentially when I was 12, the Kays catalogue (mail order catalogue) was the holy grail or 11 and 12 year olds for material. The lingerie section was great. It's a sort of running joke for males of my age. Before widespread internet access etc. Now, there was a time when seeing a nipple through a see through bra would do the job or the curves on a woman's tummy. Over time it escalates to novelty porn. Like Sasha Grey stuff where there's scenarios that wont happen you in real life, if so extremely rare. So, by quitting porn, I'm essentially going back to a time (hopefully) when I could get off to the finer things in life. Now, in order to help me, the video and the article gives encouragement. I cherry-picked what I thought was relevant from the article my friend sent and also a video that was sent to me. I made a topic to see if anyone had similar thoughts. Then, you the Doctor, biologist, the behaviourist and psychologist came in trampled all over it because it doesn't affect you so why should it affect anyone else.

I'm sure the topic is giving some members a laugh at my expense but I don't really f*cking care to be honest. I'm getting older and I don't have time to get upset if I was being laughed at. I just thought there might be others in my situation or maybe others were thinking about it and this topic might inspire them to be proactive.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:14 PM

It's funny how we get on about porn and the usually uninspired posts turn into some BRICKS. Anyway, yea porn is a little much sometimes...and damn those girls....weeew. I ddon't think I ever want a girl from California again...

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (Lightning Strike @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 05:57)
QUOTE (Killerdude8 @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 08:25)
May God give you the strength to pull through this, It will truly be the challenge of your lifetime..
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Hardly, there are many far more difficult things in life than not masturbating to porn. Though if you're addicted to it I suppose it'd present a noticeable amount of difficulty but it's nothing like trying to get over the loss of a loved one or finding a new job in this economic climate.

Not masturbating for the normal Male Human is a task that is next to impossible to perform, most people can't make it very long before they have a field day wankin' it...

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (Killerdude8 @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 18:55)
QUOTE (Lightning Strike @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 05:57)
QUOTE (Killerdude8 @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 08:25)
May God give you the strength to pull through this, It will truly be the challenge of your lifetime..
icon14.gif

Hardly, there are many far more difficult things in life than not masturbating to porn. Though if you're addicted to it I suppose it'd present a noticeable amount of difficulty but it's nothing like trying to get over the loss of a loved one or finding a new job in this economic climate.

Not masturbating for the normal Male Human is a task that is next to impossible to perform, most people can't make it very long before they have a field day wankin' it...

Though there might be something psychologically different between me and you, physically we're both human and I've never felt the need to masturbate.

Therefore I wouldn't say that it's impossible for a normal person with a sex drive to not masturbate, it may be difficult but it's nowhere near impossible. Hell if it was damaging to not orgasm or masturbate then I'd probably be dead by now, though I still do not understand why people have a sex drive I'm trying to understand why they crave it so very badly.

QUOTE (Remix @ Saturday, Feb 16 2013, 12:55)
Wait, what? I haven't read the previous pages, so I'm only basing this off what you've wrote above, but you are asexual, right? So whilst you might find it extremely easy to not masturbate, I'd say that this doesn't apply to everyone.

I tried to not jerk it for a week, and by day 5 I was practically walking around with a pitched tent. The slightest brush of a human against my arm as I was walking down the street almost caused me to orgasm on the spot.

Obviously I'm joking, but it was incredibly hard for me not to do it for a few days. Everyone is different. I'm glad I have a sex drive, but there's plenty of reasons why I wish I didn't as well.
Edit: f*ck. Top of the page.


Once again, I'm not going to pretend that I know how easy or hard it is for someone with a sex drive to stop masturbating, though as I've previously mentioned there do not seem to be any physical barriers or side effects to actually going without masturbation.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

This thread seems to have taken off quite a bit, but I'll just throw in my few cents here.


When I browsed porn and fapped daily, upwards of 2 times a day, I'd consistently feel tired in work and school. I didn't want to talk to anybody. I didn't care about making friends. I was just never in the mood because I didn't give a sh*t. And I hated myself for it. Mainly, I used porn and masturbation as a stress relief. If I had finals or a big project due, I'd fap up a storm.

Then I discovered that TED talk that TPFS linked a few pages back, talking about the benefits of kicking the porn habit. So I figured I would try it. Subsequently, my mood increased. It certainly did not turn me into some chick-magnet social God, but I wanted to socialize with people. I began exercising. I actually felt eager to do some productive sh*t in my life. I don't want to make this sound like some big advertisement for kicking porn and embark on a no-fap journey, as results may vary. But there is absolutely no harm in giving it a go.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:00 PM

I don't think anyone in here seems to realize that something like viewing porn affects different people in different ways.

Some people watch porn and develop very unhealthy habits or side effects. Other people watch porn and live very normal, fulfilling lives, including happy sex lives.

I was introduced to porn by the internet when I was maybe 12 or 13 and right off the bat I saw some sh*t that I wouldn't even want to see while browsing porn today. Really messed up stuff like men peeing into gaping assholes, a guy injecting diarrhea into his dick hole with a syringe (not with a needle, just the aperture of the device), stuff like that. Really messed up stuff.

These days I watch porn maybe a few times a week. Sometimes I'll just watch a video or two and go back to doing other stuff, sometimes I'll take half an hour and masturbate. I've found the things I like and I've found the things I don't. Throughout it all I've never stopped maintaining an interest in the opposite sex, my social life has never been a problem on account of pornography, and in general I've been pretty darn healthy. I think if I quit I might be more inclined than I already am to pursue women, but that increase would likely be out of sexual frustration that pornography and masturbation help calm a little.

I really don't like what many consider stereotypes of the porn industry like anal sex, cum swallowing, massive tits, spanking, and other things that are relatively alien to the normal person's sex life. I prefer regular, intimate sex.

Some people are different. Some people want to do the things they see in porn like rough sex and threesomes. I don't. People are different. If the OP thinks that quitting his porn habit will help him, that's all well and good. Personally I don't feel a need to stop. I did once by the way when I was dating my first girlfriend. I stopped watching porn and masturbating for about six months before deciding it was okay to do again. The whole time my girlfriend and I were just fine and nothing changed between us when I transitioned to and from my casual habit.

So...stop blanketing plz.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:13 PM

^Agreed. Sex is one of the most subjective experiences we will ever have. So I don't see the need in blanketing it's effects either. Porn has its place in society.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:41 AM

I consume porn every single day (and I'm not at all ashamed to say that) For like the past 4 years the longest I've gone without is a little over a week. I seriously think I would go mentally insane if I gave it up cold turkey so that's why I've never tried it. I wouldnt give up PrOn for anything. And I see no reason to.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

Like everything in life, I think in moderation its fine, but I've had my moments of watching porn way too many times and I just feel low on confidence and really seedy. I still masturbate pretty much everyday, just use my imagination tounge2.gif




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