|QUOTE (Jimmy_Leppard @ Monday, Jun 10 2013, 00:54)|
|QUOTE (finn4life @ Saturday, Jun 8 2013, 11:20)|
| [...]Longest f*cking runway I've ever seen in a movie though. |
I'm getting sick of this sh*t. Are you really that ignorant and dumb that you can't see it's a normal type of a runway and that it's not longer than any ordinary runway?
For you dumbasses, let me explain it to you. First off, it's not a real airport runway, it's a long convoy road in an airbase, but it doesn't matter cause that's not the point. The point is that the movies are made like playing dominos. They switch and reorganize piece by piece to fit. All fighting sequences at the end of the movie (last 10 minutes before the closing scene in L.A.) are happening at the same time - inside and outside the plane. So, the real lasting aircraft landing and driving/flying on the runway is equal to the longest fighting scene of all the fighting scenes in that last 10 minutes, which is the fight of Letty and Gina Carano. How them? They started figthing the moment Dom and the crew hit her with a car at the entrance to the cargo and they were fighting until Letty shoved that.. thing up her belly/chest..
Since we are watching the movie on one screen, they can show only one sequence of scenes at once. They could easily split one big screen to 4 or 5 small screens and show the whole fighting sequence all at once, but that wouldn't be watchable now, would it? Instead, they have to show every scene sequence one after another and that makes it look like a long runway, but some poeple (if you want, most people) don't understand that. The same thing is at the first chase after Shaw, specifically in the tunnel when Hobbs says something like: ''I got eyes on Shaw, he just made a left.'' Then Brian says he went right and Hobbs tells Dom to go left. First you see Brian going after the Jeep forward, then you see that before that Hobbs said he got eyes on Shaw and then you see how actually Brian got right and Hobbs and Dom went left towards Shaw.
I can't believe people can be so ignorant...
I understand that it is shot from various angles, but the plane must have been going like 200 kilometres an hour, the longest runways in the world are about 5km long in a circuit kind of fashion , so the straight length will be a bit less than 2.5km, this is in the absolute best case scenario, the US's longest runway is about 700 metres shorter than this, you did say it was on a Convoy road, but i'm having a hard time believing the length of it, and you did say it's no different to an ordinary runway right in your first sentence.
Anyway the plane considering how heavy it was with all the cars hanging off it would have had to get up to perhaps 250km/h or even the 320+km/h zone, you have a decent point that many sequences are fought at the same time, I understand that, however that runway scene must have gone for 30-40 minutes, there was however I think 9-10 characters, and possibly 20 seconds worth of filming on the pilots. Those 9-10 characters were often involved in fighting with each other though, so between them there were probably about 5 simultaneously occurring scenes at any point of the runway sequence.
Now, let's assume that the runway/convoy road was about 2.5km long, just for the sake of putting some numbers together, the plane would have been going more than 150km an hour by the time all the cars caught up since it was just about to take off and that is a minimum speed for take off, so that works out at about 107 metres every 3 seconds at 150km/h. that means to travel 2.5 kilometres, it would take;
2500 divided by 107 = 23.3
23.3 x 3 seconds = 70 seconds.
In real life to travel a runway it would probably take longer than that, but i'm going by how the movie displayed events.
Now the cargo plane was surely going much faster than 150km/h along the course of the runway, reaching up to 320+km/h when the scene was about to end
So that is 1:10 seconds it would take to travel the entire runway assuming it was at the very beginning of the runway with all that speed.
Now let's factor in that when the sequence began, the plane was already on the run way chewing up length, and the team had to rush to their cars, and drive crazy fast to catch up to it, this section switched between the 6 good guys, it lasted probably 2 minutes, so that is another 20 seconds of real time while the plane is going along the runway, the team had to go very fast to catch up to the plane so it was like I said before, already up to speed when they caught up to it, it could have covered several hundred meters already, if the team was driving as fast as they could to catch up to the plane, and it took around 20 seconds of real time to get there, their cars can accelerate to 100km/h in under 5 seconds, so for about 15 seconds they would have been travelling more than 100km/h. At 100km/h a car covers 27 metres a second, in 15 seconds that is about 400 metres, but they were going faster than that if they caught up to a plane going over 150km/h about to take off, so I could see them using already about 700 metres. Which leaves 1.8km of runway left.
Remember the 150km/h thing before? Well once you take out the room taken up by the first 20 seconds of real time in the sequence you are left with
1800 divided by 107 = 16.8
16.8 x 3 = 50.4 seconds.
Okay so after initial two minutes catching up to the plane, you're telling me that 5 different simultaneously occurring scenes over the space of 30-40 minutes were only about 50 seconds in real time?(Which is actually being optimistic) There were individual scenes that lasted longer than that, by which point the plane would have already gone off the runway.
Even if you doubled the length of the runway to 5kilometres you would only have 1:40 seconds that the whole sequence took place that lasted over half an hour. This theoretical runway would have had to have been long enough to last about 6 minutes going at speeds over 150km/h for the sequence to be plausible, and that means the runway/convoy road would need to be like 15 kilometres wrong.
You should try and be more polite before outright flaming.
| Ignorant Dumb Dumbasses Ignorant. |
Eat your own words, Bitch.