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#31

Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:22 AM

It is true that Lucid dreams often happen, even if you din't try any technique. But with techniques, you will be able to recall them better and take control over them without waking yourself up.

Anyway, nice experiences smile.gif

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:28 AM

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I have only been practicing OOBEs for 1-2 years and I've gone through many methods and try outs to figure out what methods are the most suitable to me. They've always changed, but here are a few.

Involuntary experiences for almost no reason

I used to have a lot of Sleep Paralysis experiences and I had no idea why. I also used to believe there were a few demons in my room or that someone was in my apartment willing to kill me or steal something. One of the reason I used to have these experiences is that I had just started school and I had to go to bed earlier. It did not matter how early I went I always had to have a nap in the afternoon as I was too tired. Then, after a few hours, as I had to go to bed earlier, I'd just go to sleep and wait. I felt in a way able to sleep, but not sleepy or tired at all. This is one of the best states you should be in when you want to induce an OOBE. This method may be also found as Bedeekin's method as he has introduced naps to Astralviewers, if I remember correctly. You basically need to go to bed later than usual, wake up earlier than usual so that you can get tired enough for a nap in the evening. Then, go to sleep after 2-4 hours and you should experience Sleep paralysis. It may not work from the very beginning, but keep trying. It happened to me without knowing what I was doing, so it must work to you too. However, if you are used to sleeping in the afternoon or you are not used to waking up WHEN you wake up, it may not work. Keep trying, though. Change sleep patterns.

I sometimes still use this method, but yeah, always napping in the afternoon can get pretty frustrating. One would rather just go outside with friends than sleeping. It's still a powerful method, though.

Voluntary SP's, but with a prior sleep

Whether it is a sleep in the evening, or you just wake up to use the toilet it is still a good opportunity to try and induce an OOBE. Try to get some 5-6 hours of sleep, stay up 30-60 minutes and then return back to bed with the intent of inducing. You may stay up shorter, but try not to fall asleep. I believe Jettins has already talked about this method in more detail. Check it out in the forum. This method is the fastest way to OOBE, in my opinion. Here are some old hours and situations when I used to induce:

1. Bedeekin method. Go to sleep later than usual, wake up 1-2 hours earlier than usual, have a 2 hours nap between 6-9 then induce after 2/4 hours. Usually at 11.
2. Wake up 2 hours earlier than usual and go to induce in 1 hour.
3. Wake up in the middle of the night, after 2/4/6 hours of sleep and try to induce.
4. Go to sleep at 1 am, wake up at 6 am and induce at 7 am. - This one worked 9 times out of 10 to me until I changed again my sleep pattern.

Before going to bed methods

Since there's no time for napping and waking up during nights is a bit annoying and stressful, I needed a new method. I had become used to inducing right before falling asleep. However, I had to be very sleepy so that I can go faster and deeper in my sleep. I used to stay still, without moving and just wait until images or sounds kicked in. Sometimes I'd just find myself talking, interpreting other dream characters. When I realized that, I'd just say my magical sentence that should increase my awareness. I used to say "This is false, this is all a dream.". I remember it has worked like 3-4 times, but I did not bother practicing this. However, lately, I've become better at this method and I can even stay still without moving until I enter SP or fall asleep. Sometimes, I need to move, but if I move I always remember that I am close to falling asleep so I just wait to use my magical sentence. It requires practice but it works, without any prior sleep.

Meditation induction

After having had Sleep paralysis and out of body experiences only after prior sleep for almost a year, I could not imagine how one could have OOBEs and real vibrations from meditation as for me, meditation was only a way to relax your mind and "turn off the useless programs running in the background". However, yes, it is possible to induce OOBEs from meditation. The best way is to learn to ignore any physical and external information, senses, everything and concentrate on a mantra or something else. Just stay aware and ignore everything else. Most importantly is to get rid of your physical senses. No mind meditation, by Campbell, phasing and noticing by Xanth are very good methods for that. I however still induce using that magical sentence I just talked about above since I induce more when going to sleep.

If I remember something else I will let you guys know.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

I stopped having nightmares when I had my first lucid dream. I was a kid at that time. Sleep is pleasant for me now. I remember when I was afraid to sleep because of the nightmares. Almost everything went wrong in my nightmares. It's different now. I have positive dreams because I can realize that I'm dreaming. Even if I don't realize it, the dreams still go positively for me. When I had nightmares, if I dreamt of being alone in the dark then something terrible was bound to happen, such as being pounced upon by a ghoul or have a hand grab my leg and pull me into a hole. I could feel the hand, but I couldn't see it. My current dreams don't go bad when I'm in the dark. I can fight back if someone or something tries to grab me. And I rarely get assaulted in my dreams nowadays. Another old nightmare that I had was being caught in a megatsunami. I had another dream of large waves recently. This time it didn't flood towards me. The gigantic waves were actually fun to watch. I think this is one of the differences that a lucid dream can make. Sometimes an image becomes positive or negative depending on whether it's a lucid dream or not.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:06 PM

I don't know, I just can't lucid dream. I realize I'm dreaming all the time, and can somewhat "influence" what I do in them, but never have full control.

It's annoying to me because lately I've been having a lot of dreams where I have some awesome guns that I don't have. And I realize I'm dreaming and I think, "I want to go outside and shoot these!" but just can't get my dream self to do it.

I think it has more to do with a lack of concentration or something... It's like I'll realize I'm dreaming, think of something to do, but then something will happen in the dream and I'll kind of "forget" that I'm dreaming for a second, and I'll just keep realizing and forgetting that it's a dream. So it never really provides me with any opportunity to really control or do anything, but every once in a while if I'm aware it's a dream at the right moment I can decide to press a button or something very small like that.

I think my problem is just that, no matter how strong the reality-check, I still in my dream worry "Is this real life?" For example, in one of my dreams with a firearm I had the idea to go out back and shoot it in the backyard--a crime to fire weapons inside city limits. I told myself, "Yeah but it's a dream... Isn't it?"

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 05:34 PM



When I was a kid I would always dream about getting stuff i always wanted but then like the video above I wake up.
The worst part is when you think its in your hand when you wake up.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:17 AM

Never been able to control any aspect of a dream. I've always remained a spectator, nothing more which is starting to piss me off.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:22 AM

Seriously, I want to lucid dream so bad because my dreams are f*cking annoying that I WANT TO KILL THE PEOPLE BUT I CANT.!!!

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Also ,can you record a lucid dream plz and show it on the internetz

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE (buzbegone @ Monday, Dec 24 2012, 01:17)
Never been able to control any aspect of a dream. I've always remained a spectator, nothing more which is starting to piss me off.

To fix this, try doing reality checks each day.
And also, the MILD technique.

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Seriously, I want to lucid dream so bad because my dreams are f*cking annoying that I WANT TO KILL THE PEOPLE BUT I CANT.!!!

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Also ,can you record a lucid dream plz and show it on the internetz


Try techniques.
I can't say any more confused.gif

Also, look at anime.
There you go, it's like a persons sexual and action packed fantasy in a dream.



Here is a forum thats very useful for asking tips.
It also has links to different techniques

http://www.world-of-...forum/index.php

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:06 AM

Think positively. Negative things will happen in your dreams if you think negatively.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:45 AM Edited by WF the Hobgoblin, 24 December 2012 - 03:47 AM.

It's 3:45am here, I should've gone to sleep hours ago but I've been pissing about on the internet and now that I've started reading this stuff, I'm not to going to be able to sleep at all now. confused.gif I really hate dreaming. I don't often get nightmares, I just hate the idea of dreams - especially when I think about them before I go to sleep. I'd be quite happy if I could do away with them altogether.

I think I've been aware that was dreaming before but it's only happened once or twice that I can remember. I've never been in the least bit of control.

Also I'm sitting pinching my cheeks, why doesn't it hurt??? ph34r.gif

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:48 AM

I dont know if this is a lucid dream but I have a dream that I am falling from the sky. So I am dreaming about jumping from an airplane and just when I am about to hit the ground I just shake and flip in my bed. Or when somebody is killing me in my dream I just stop breathing and after 20 seconds I am awake and out of breath lol. Is this lucid dreaming?

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:09 AM

I had a cross between a lucid dream and sleep paralysis last night. I had taken two xanax's yesterday around 6 PM and passed out an hour later. I woke up around 2 am (or atleast I think I did) completely frozen and feeling like I was in a huge box. I kind of told my head to go into a deep sleep and I did almost instantly as if it were on command. I continued to dream about being in that huge black box and flying around.

I woke up 2 hours later and again had sleep paralysis in my whole body. Couldn't move a single bit. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:55 AM

About a week ago, I had this extremely bizarre dream that included eating my retainer; in the dream, I could actually taste it and feel the texture as if it was real life. I couldn't remember the rest of the dream clearly enough, but it was too nonsensical to describe. Anyway, would this be considered a lucid dream?

BTW, for anyone wondering what it tasted like, it tasted similar to the inside of a pill, but mixed with chlorine and other chemicals. Like I said, really bizarre.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:53 AM Edited by DestaliusDark, 24 December 2012 - 09:58 AM.

QUOTE (WF the Hobgoblin @ Monday, Dec 24 2012, 04:45)
It's 3:45am here, I should've gone to sleep hours ago but I've been pissing about on the internet and now that I've started reading this stuff, I'm not to going to be able to sleep at all now. confused.gif I really hate dreaming. I don't often get nightmares, I just hate the idea of dreams - especially when I think about them before I go to sleep. I'd be quite happy if I could do away with them altogether.

I think I've been aware that was dreaming before but it's only happened once or twice that I can remember. I've never been in the least bit of control.

Also I'm sitting pinching my cheeks, why doesn't it hurt??? ph34r.gif

You must be dreaming!
Your whole life is a dream! Everything is fake!

Try something else, that makes you realize your awake, dreams are not something to be afraid of though. Sometimes they might be horrible, but trust me.

Once you lucid dream, it's all good smile.gif
(I mean, jumping off a giant building and then proceeding to fly, is pretty epic in lucid dreams, because it all feels real)

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About a week ago, I had this extremely bizarre dream that included eating my retainer; in the dream, I could actually taste it and feel the texture as if it was real life. I couldn't remember the rest of the dream clearly enough, but it was too nonsensical to describe. Anyway, would this be considered a lucid dream?

BTW, for anyone wondering what it tasted like, it tasted similar to the inside of a pill, but mixed with chlorine and other chemicals. Like I said, really bizarre.


If you could control your body and actions in the dream it was a lucid dream.
But, if you where just eating something, and not thinking about doing something else instead while noticing your dreaming. No it isn't tounge.gif

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I dont know if this is a lucid dream but I have a dream that I am falling from the sky. So I am dreaming about jumping from an airplane and just when I am about to hit the ground I just shake and flip in my bed. Or when somebody is killing me in my dream I just stop breathing and after 20 seconds I am awake and out of breath lol. Is this lucid dreaming?


If you fell from the plane, where you realizing you where dreaming?
If you couldn't control the fact that you where going to open your parachute, nor realize you where dreaming. No it's not lucid smile.gif



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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:03 AM

Wake up...

No, but seriously... DestaliusDark, read my big post above. It's basically a tutorial.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:28 AM

I've had two or three, but there is one that I can remember. In the one I remember I was in a shopping center when I realised I was dreaming, so I began to fly with a couple of people who I knew. In the end I went outside where there was a desk with a computer and since I couldn't think of having dream sex, I watched porn on the computer. That was odd...

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (Coat. @ Monday, Dec 24 2012, 11:03)
Wake up...

No, but seriously... DestaliusDark, read my big post above. It's basically a tutorial.

I'm only answering different questions.
Your post, is one of the ways to do it, and yes it's very detailed.
But there are many other ways.

I'm only answering simple questions.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:43 PM

I think I had a bit of sleep paralysis just a bit ago...

I was in my bed and heard some noises, and I look at the window that overlooks my bed and there was someone breaking in. I tried to move to get out of the room, to get my phone or my rifle, anything... But it was like, I could move, but very sluggishly. I can't describe it right, but it felt like my eye lids alone weighed a million pounds and I could barely even watch the guy breaking in. So I wasn't so much paralyzed as I couldn't move at all, but I mean... Just grabbing my blanket to throw it off of me took ages.

Somehow I managed to yell at him, "Get outta here!" and he slipped back out of the window. Slowly I started regaining control of my limbs and I bolted, tripped all over myself and barreled into the living room. Grabbed my rifle and my phone and then kind "pie'd the corner" to the entrance of my room only to see the window undisturbed.


It was pretty f*ckin' bizarre... I mean I thought it was real so much so I had actually called 911 and told them I think someone broke in. It was rather embarrassing telling them I was mistaken.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:33 AM

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I'm only answering simple questions.


If they're simple, what's the point of telling. There is already 3 pages with you saying the same methods over and over, and confirming if some has actually had sleep paralysis/lucid dreaming.

At the person above me.. that sound like a really intense sleep paralysis experience. I have never had anything that strong.

I know what you mean about the heavy eyes and limbs. I was scared in paralysis one time and called out for help, but my word slurred as my vocals were paralysed as well.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (Coat. @ Tuesday, Dec 25 2012, 01:33)
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I'm only answering simple questions.


If they're simple, what's the point of telling. There is already 3 pages with you saying the same methods over and over, and confirming if some has actually had sleep paralysis/lucid dreaming.

At the person above me.. that sound like a really intense sleep paralysis experience. I have never had anything that strong.

I know what you mean about the heavy eyes and limbs. I was scared in paralysis one time and called out for help, but my word slurred as my vocals were paralysed as well.

Sorry, i was only trying to be nice and answer their questions and maybe make a it bit more clear if they din't understand.

I was trying to be nice, no need to get annoyed with it.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:17 AM

I once have a dream within a dream. The second layer was so f*cked up and scared me a bit, not by monsters, but appointments. People were calling me to go there, go there, go there 'till I hit my head in a wall and woke up.

It was not lucid dreaming anyway. I want to try it so badly before but I can't. Any tips? I wanna try "Inception- dreaming" again.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:05 PM Edited by Mr.Mister, 27 December 2012 - 10:58 PM.

I just had the most f*cked up dream like 5 minutes ago. I was at a ski resort shooting people with a sniper rifle and I was talking to a friend about getting those electric knuckles from black ops II. I told him that those things were scary and that he should put them away. Cops finally showed up what felt like an eternity (probably 10 minutes?) and I ran downstairs. I woke up, then closed my eyes and was back in the dream. AT THIS POINT I HAD A OPPURTUNITY. I was back in my dream soon as I closed my eyes again... now I was at my old school and cops were pulling in. I kept shooting but had such bad aim. The cop took aim and I got hit in the shoulder, spun around, then kept firing. Then I got hit in the gut, fell down and started to die. Then I woke up.

f*cked. Up. And it felt so real. My hearts still pounding

Oh yeah! It all started with me stealing my bros car and doing stunts. This place was like a mountain town, totally didnt recognize it.

EDIT: That dream was sure f*cked up. Had a lil too much Remy Martin I suppose, also had some deep talks about life with a friend before I fell asleep.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:53 PM

I've had one Lucid dream before , but the only thing i remember that i find a bit strange that i was actually stuck at one time of the dream between reality and dreaming , like i was robbing a store and thinking if my little sister was approching to wake up me in real ...

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:11 AM

I just had a lucid dream a while ago, I said to myself "I am dreaming", after that I tried controlling my dream, it didn't work, I ended up having sleep paralysis, but I did not hallucinate, then I woke up.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:21 AM

QUOTE (Prince Gumball @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 06:11)
I just had a lucid dream a while ago, I said to myself "I am dreaming", after that I tried controlling my dream, it didn't work, I ended up having sleep paralysis, but I did not hallucinate, then I woke up.

You are awake in sleep paralysis. So you didn't wake up, but got out of paralysis.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:22 AM

QUOTE (Coat. @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 08:21)
QUOTE (Prince Gumball @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 06:11)
I just had a lucid dream a while ago, I said to myself "I am dreaming", after that I tried controlling my dream, it didn't work, I ended up having sleep paralysis, but I did not hallucinate, then I woke up.

You are awake in sleep paralysis. So you didn't wake up, but got out of paralysis.

This is my first time having Sleep Paralysis, and the second time Lucid dreaming in my life, I'm only 13.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (Prince Gumball @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 09:22)
QUOTE (Coat. @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 08:21)
QUOTE (Prince Gumball @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 06:11)
I just had a lucid dream a while ago, I said to myself "I am dreaming", after that I tried controlling my dream, it didn't work, I ended up having sleep paralysis, but I did not hallucinate, then I woke up.

You are awake in sleep paralysis. So you didn't wake up, but got out of paralysis.

This is my first time having Sleep Paralysis, and the second time Lucid dreaming in my life, I'm only 13.

I had both at about that age. Some people have it even younger.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:49 AM

I'm not sure if it really was a lucid dream, but I think I had one last night. My first one, actually.

Basically, I had kind of a long dream about my buddy and I being at my place, just joking, talking, etc. So, at one point he sat on the couch in my living room and something happened, though I can't really remember what it was, that made me realize I was actually dreaming.

Now, usually when I realize I'm dreaming, things get reeaally nasty and chaotic for some reason, as if some kind of evil tries to take over my dream, and I just end up waking up in a sleep paralysis. But this time I kind of managed to stop it and stay in my dream. The weird part is, there weren't any visuals, I could only hear my mom and my friend talking. This is why I think it may not have been a lucid dream, but just my brain screwing with me instead. But it felt really, really real and as if they were right next to me. It was pretty loud too.

So I started to think about ( or maybe I just think I started to think about it, I don't know, it's confusing ) my mom saying something about Christmas and Christmas holidays and then a second later, she really did say it!

It all lasted for only 3 or 4 seconds, after which I simply opened my eyes and woke up as usual. During all this, I remember having a sensation of warmth, maybe even slight pain. Perhaps I felt my body booting up? Because had I woken up during the "nasty and chaotic" phase, I would've had sleep paralysis. But since I managed to stay in my dream, maybe I gave my body enough time to wake itself up, hence the sensation I had? confused.gif

All in all, I think I'm making progress. smile.gif

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:12 PM

I've had sleep paralysis for many many years on the regular before I eventually found out what it actually was and started my quest to astral travel. I give techniques and what not on another forum about it and one thing I always tell ppl before they start anything with dreaming/OBE is how to bail out of sleep paralysis since it is something that I was never taught how to and was the biggest fear I had (as it is the biggest issue with most ppl). So for anyone that ever happens to get into sleep paralysis dont be afraid at all, nothings gonna happen but if you do happen to fall into it and wanna bail out its simple

SP Bail out:
If you start trippin out and want to stop the Sleep Paralysis all you gotta do is change up your breathing, it works everytime for myself. When your in SP sometimes it might feel like its hard for you to breathe but its really not and you will always breathe in SP, its just when you trip out you panic and start thinking for the worse lol as I had done before.

Example: You get scared and say f*ck this, all you gotta do is start taking in deep deep breathes, it will change your flow of breathing and you will snap out of it. It may take upto like 20 seconds sometimes but don't trip, you'll eventually snap out.

Another thing you could do is jus relax and let it take over, continue jus going to sleep as u usually would. Once you relax enough you might feel very light or even as if your floating somewhere but dont trip jus go with the flow and it will be over before you know it. You will also likly get crazy visuals, jus enjoy everything you see, nothing will ever happen to u, take my word for it.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (Prince Gumball @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 09:22)
QUOTE (Coat. @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 08:21)
QUOTE (Prince Gumball @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 06:11)
I just had a lucid dream a while ago, I said to myself "I am dreaming", after that I tried controlling my dream, it didn't work, I ended up having sleep paralysis, but I did not hallucinate, then I woke up.

You are awake in sleep paralysis. So you didn't wake up, but got out of paralysis.

This is my first time having Sleep Paralysis, and the second time Lucid dreaming in my life, I'm only 13.

thats exactly the age sleep paralysis started happening to me for the first time as well. Got it once every 3 or 4 months until i turned 20ish where I would get it once a month to when i was 22 i had got it everyday for 1 of the months at that age and then it went back to happening once a month. I'm 24 now

I didn't lose the fear for it until i turned 20 but thats only because I didn't do my research and understand it. Educate yourself about it now and you'll lose the fear before you know it. Your sleep pattern and stress levels play a big role.

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