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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:41 AM Edited by IrishMantis, 19 December 2012 - 10:49 AM.

im almost certain this has being said before couldn't find any, neither do i wanna resurrect dead Topics
this is more aimed towards AI but it be cool if they can implement it to some degree with your Chars

but i was just wondering on Peoples opinions on AI Damage like blowing someone head off with a shotgun GTA III Style, or even half there head depending where you aim,
to little damage like busting their nose or splitting them open

tbh i doubt they put this in, but im just wondering your opinions and if so how detailed will you say it be

EDIT; and just food for thought,,, maybe after busting somebody open you can get blood all over your clothes, to where if you want them you have to take them to the dry cleaners

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:45 AM

I'd rather have a functioning "crippling-system" than some useless gore.
I liked how in RDR people would kneel if you shot their legs, but on the other hand, if you shot peoples legs more than 3 times, the person died sad.gif
It'd be cool if you e.g. shot someone's hand, he/she couldn't hold weapons anymore or something similar...

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:46 AM

the more limbs that can be detached... the better.

and more blood.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:47 AM

QUOTE (hinti21 @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 10:45)
I'd rather have a functioning "crippling-system" than some useless gore.
I liked how in RDR people would kneel if you shot their legs, but on the other hand, if you shot peoples legs more than 3 times, the person died sad.gif
It'd be cool if you e.g. shot someone's hand, he/she couldn't hold weapons anymore or something similar...

Yeah man that all applies too, and im with you, it be better if it has properties and not just cool looking

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

QUOTE (kb2084 @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 10:46)
the more limbs that can be detached... the better.

and more blood.

Would you be pleased, if it was like in Fallout? (where bodyparts were blown off when the enemy died -> not really useful)
Or would you like dismemberment to be some kind of indicator for you, to see what parts you already have crippled and which ones you don't?^^

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:16 AM

This is a way too senseless for GTA.

Do that in a First Person Zombie Game, but in a Game like GTA, where you got a working economy system, it would be waste of space! angry.gif

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:24 AM

QUOTE (The-Edgar @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 11:16)
This is a way too senseless for GTA.

Do that in a First Person Zombie Game, but in a Game like GTA, where you got a working economy system, it would be waste of space! angry.gif

Dead Island is awesome!!

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:30 AM

I want gore, lots of bloody, head off and losing limbs but really above all I really want to be injured so if the player gets shot he limps and without treatment health continues to drop and eventually dies of blood loss. Same with fights I want more graphic damage so the players face is messed up and bones get broken. This would make the game realistic.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:33 AM

I would love to see it as in Max Payne 3. Really liked that.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE (vivalavendredi @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 11:33)
I would love to see it as in Max Payne 3. Really liked that.

As someone who hasn't played that game, might I ask how it's done there?

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:26 PM

QUOTE (CrashGordon94 @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 11:43)
QUOTE (vivalavendredi @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 11:33)
I would love to see it as in Max Payne 3. Really liked that.

As someone who hasn't played that game, might I ask how it's done there?

you can shoot at the hands, so enemies drop their weapons,
headshoots and other limb-shots were really realistic, with blood and crouching after shooting to the legs and so on

I guess you might find some good in-game-videos on youtube.
But as MP3 isn't an open world game I'm not sure if these physics can be realized in such a big game as GTA
Oh - and the coversystem was really nice in MP3 too

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

As long as they don't go over the top. I don't want a .22 decapitating someone, but a shotgun at point blank range to the face should have catastrophic damage.

It all has to be believable though. In VC, for example, as cool as it was, blowing someone's head off was a bit too.... arcadey?

Making the game too gorey would hinder the feel and tone of it, and if it's a more mature, serious game, having crazy bloody explosions from a pistol hit to the head, would counteract that.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:01 PM

Na man i dont think so, with really cool sound effects would be really sick, plus it will give a feel of power

imagine pipe bombing a mainstream high way full of cars i wanna see limbs and intestines flying up in the air, burned out Corpses

and even little detail such whacking someone in the face with a stick n bared wire, and see the the animation have to slightly pull it back out of his face with skin caught in the bared wire, haha i think i play too much Mortal Kombat

so heres another question related?

would you like to see execution like with uniqe animations, they kind of had it in GTA IV when you shot someone in the body with a shotgun they fall to the dock then you just walk up and clean head shot them

Violence is real World
and hay this is from the makers of one of the most violent games to date so they can do it, especially with Trevor

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (IrishMantis @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 20:01)
...would you like to see execution like with uniqe animations...

Yeah! It would be cool if there'd be executions like in Scarface (don't know if anyone here played it), where if you went up to an enemy real close, Tony did some special execution smile.gif


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (hinti21 @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 12:12)
QUOTE (IrishMantis @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 20:01)
...would you like to see execution like with uniqe animations...

Yeah! It would be cool if there'd be executions like in Scarface (don't know if anyone here played it), where if you went up to an enemy real close, Tony did some special execution smile.gif


f*ck, i just want special shots on the body that would cause a bleedout in one shot, or blowing the head off some scumbag, depending on the caliber of the gun.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:31 PM

"maybe after busting somebody open you can get blood all over your clothes"

In GTA IV, killing people got blood on your clothes, but always in the same way.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE (hinti21 @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 10:45)
I'd rather have a functioning "crippling-system" than some useless gore.
I liked how in RDR people would kneel if you shot their legs, but on the other hand, if you shot peoples legs more than 3 times, the person died sad.gif
It'd be cool if you e.g. shot someone's hand, he/she couldn't hold weapons anymore or something similar...

Right.
GTA is about realism. not gore.
i would rather have the cripling system too.
if people want heads blown off, they should go play a zombie game or something.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE (lightningun @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 21:19)
QUOTE (hinti21 @ Wednesday, Dec 19 2012, 10:45)
I'd rather have a functioning "crippling-system" than some useless gore.
I liked how in RDR people would kneel if you shot their legs, but on the other hand, if you shot peoples legs more than 3 times, the person died sad.gif
It'd be cool if you e.g. shot someone's hand, he/she couldn't hold weapons anymore or something similar...

Right.
GTA is about realism. not gore.
i would rather have the cripling system too.
if people want heads blown off, they should go play a zombie game or something.

nah man i hate zombie games,, theres no satisfaction in blown off a head off somebody whos already dead
and im down for the crippling system too

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:13 AM

depends

if i am able to blow people head off with a shot gun,im fine

but then i want crippling and body part effects




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