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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:02)
Wait A Day or so until the Government has its Ducks in a Row.
I'm sure Obama will have some pithy statement to make, and urge Congress to Enact some backroom law.

Right on time. Ryda King, care to join in?

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:14 PM

And now we wait for the gun control advocates to come out and say that we need to ban guns. When will people realize that no matter what laws you enact people like this monster will always find a way to get a gun? Sane people do not do these types of things. Clearly there was something wrong with this man and he decided to take it out on little innocent children. I hope he went painfully and suffered. And what about somebody who wants a gun to protect their homes and families? What are you going to tell them? It's ok the person is trying to kill me I will just talk him out of it. Please!

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:16 PM

This is really terrible news cry.gif . R.I.P to the victims.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE (Santi990 @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 11:05)
Those dudes want to kill kids in the game!

Please don't draw stupid parallels in a situation like this.

It's going to be bad enough with the gun activists on both sides screaming for changes.

Truth is, more psychiatric care is needed. And less war.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

This is children we're talking about, completely defenceless. Would it make a difference if their parents or teachers owned a gun? No. Would it make a difference if guns were more strictly controlled (not banned) and background health checks were more rigorous? There's a chance yes, that there wouldn't be nearly 30 families without their kids or siblings this Christmas. But that's just my opinion.

A nightmare for them that none of us can even imagine unless you have children yourself. Any word on the missing class?

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 13:02)
Wait A Day or so until the Government has its Ducks in a Row.
I'm sure Obama will have some pithy statement to make, and urge Congress to Enact some backroom law.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:23 PM Edited by Chunkyman, 14 December 2012 - 07:26 PM.

QUOTE (twinkiller @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:14)
And now we wait for the gun control advocates to come out and say that we need to ban guns.  When will people realize that no matter what laws you enact people like this monster will always find a way to get a gun?  Sane people do not do these types of things.  Clearly there was something wrong with this man and he decided to take it out on little innocent children.  I hope he went painfully and suffered.  And what about somebody who wants a gun to protect their homes and families?  What are you going to tell them?  It's ok the person is trying to kill me I will just talk him out of it.  Please!

Your rights end where my knee jerk reactions begin.

Sure, there is no proof that the enactment of gun laws has ever reduced crime rates, but that shouldn't stop us from severely infringing on people's rights! I mean it's not like prohibition has severe, unintended consequences or anything!

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

They just released the shooters name and /b/ has found the sad f*cks Facebook. Apparently his parents have been found dead in their homes.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (EscoLehGo @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:11)
QUOTE (lil weasel @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:02)
Wait A Day or so until the Government has its Ducks in a Row.
I'm sure Obama will have some pithy statement to make, and urge Congress to Enact some backroom law.

Right on time. Ryda King, care to join in?

Waiting for more info and Obama's statement.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:27 PM

We all at GTAForums would like to say R.I.P To all those victims most of them children its truly sad sad.gif

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

Plays GTA...

http://www.facebook.com/rlanza

His Facebook

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

Shooters name is 20 year old Ryan Lanza

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

If the shooter is Ryan Lanza, as the news is saying, then here's his Facebook. He's playing GTA in some of the videos, I hope there's no sh*tstorm.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:31 PM

Just heard about this (been on the road).

f*cking scum of the Earth. That's all I have to say really. confused.gif

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (Claude94 @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 12:30)
If the shooter is Ryan Lanza, as the news is saying, then here's his Facebook. He's playing GTA in some of the videos, I hope there's no sh*tstorm.

Oh crap, sh*tstorm will come.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:32 PM Edited by Typhus, 14 December 2012 - 07:35 PM.

QUOTE (Otter @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:20)
Truth is, more psychiatric care is needed. And less war.

The problem is that juries don't seem to like acknowledging that some criminals are not responsible for their actions.
America can improve its psychiatric care all it wants, but that won't stop stupid jurors from ignoring evidence of mental illness and sending people to rot in a prison.

Richard Chase springs to mind. He killed a whole family because he was experiencing several schizoid delusions. In one, he believed that someone had stolen his arteries. At one point he was running through a hospital, screaming about a 'thief' who entered his body and stole his blood. They ignored him.
In fact, lots more people ignored him even as he wandered the streets covered in the blood of his victims. He didn't even possess the cunning to change his clothes or wash after he slaughtered an entire family. But they still judged him sane. Go figure.

But no one thought he should have been helped. They locked him up and the poor, diseased man ended up killing himself.

Government involvement isn't nearly as important as ensuring that the legal system doles out justice instead of revenge.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:33 PM

QUOTE (Claude94 @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:30)
If the shooter is Ryan Lanza, as the news is saying, then here's his Facebook. He's playing GTA in some of the videos, I hope there's no sh*tstorm.

Me too I just hope people realize that not everybody who plays GTA wants to commit these crimes. I have been playing for 5 years and never once have i wanted to act out what i saw in a video game.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:34 PM

What a f*cked up planet this is.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:29)
Shooters name is 20 year old Ryan Lanza

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

QUOTE (TheKryptonite @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 13:35)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:29)
Shooters name is 20 year old Ryan Lanza

24.

From what I've heard on TV, they found a body at his home that may be his mother. This is pretty f*cked up.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

This is beyond sad... There isn't even words for something like this. I can't even begin to understand it. Fathom it... Peoples children killed. Staff as well, sons, daughters, husbands, wives. All because of some sick f*ck.

I'm disgusted, truly.

I have a comment on the whole gun control bit, but I'm just gonna save it. the comments are flying as it is. I just can't believe this has happened. There are things in this world you just don't think you will ever hear about. I always hoped an elementary school shooting would be one of them. What the f*ck?

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Ryda King @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:26)
QUOTE (EscoLehGo @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:11)
QUOTE (lil weasel @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:02)
Wait A Day or so until the Government has its Ducks in a Row.
I'm sure Obama will have some pithy statement to make, and urge Congress to Enact some backroom law.

Right on time. Ryda King, care to join in?

Waiting for more info and Obama's statement.

Damn and I was all set to grab a bowl of popcorn too, guess I'll just have to settle for lil weasel until ol' Barry makes his way to a podium within the next couple hours or so.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Claude94 @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 12:36)
QUOTE (TheKryptonite @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 13:35)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:29)
Shooters name is 20 year old Ryan Lanza

24.

From what I've heard on TV, they found a body at his home that may be his mother. This is pretty f*cked up.

Heard the same, CBS said his mom supposedly was a teacher at the school.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:37)
QUOTE (Claude94 @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 12:36)
QUOTE (TheKryptonite @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 13:35)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:29)
Shooters name is 20 year old Ryan Lanza

24.

From what I've heard on TV, they found a body at his home that may be his mother. This is pretty f*cked up.

Heard the same, CBS said his mom supposedly was a teacher at the school.

Sick f*cker, he should get castrated slowly. angry.gif

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:42 PM Edited by TheKryptonite, 14 December 2012 - 07:45 PM.

QUOTE (Claude94 @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:36)
QUOTE (TheKryptonite @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 13:35)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:29)
Shooters name is 20 year old Ryan Lanza

24.

From what I've heard on TV, they found a body at his home that may be his mother. This is pretty f*cked up.

I think I heard that the mother was one of the teachers that was killed.

And wtf at this:

https://pbs.twimg.co...AQgFA.png:large
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

It may seem insensitive, and I'd rather not turn this into an argument, so if someone could answer me in the simplest terms possible:
Given the high amount of crimes lax gun control has caused, what are the arguments against gun control?
Does it boil down to a simple matter of personal liberty? Or is the idea that personal gun ownership prevents the government from oppressing the people?
I'm not insulting anyone, I'm simply asking because - not to be disrespectful - but owning guns seems, at best, dangerous and, at worst, severely irresponsible.
I'd just like to understand why people want such awful weapons.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE (Typhus @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 15:42)
I'd just like to understand why people want such awful weapons.

That's what I don't get either. Why there's such a craving to be able to have that "freedom" to be able to walk into your local Walmart and purchase a weapon like so.

I for one am not for full-on gun control, but I do believe the laws and qualifications need to be revamped and added on to.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE (Typhus @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:42)
It may seem insensitive, and I'd rather not turn this into an argument, so if someone could answer me in the simplest terms possible:
Given the high amount of crimes lax gun control has caused, what are the arguments against gun control?
Does it boil down to a simple matter of personal liberty? Or is the idea that personal gun ownership prevents the government from oppressing the people?
I'm not insulting anyone, I'm simply asking because - not to be disrespectful - but owning guns seems, at best, dangerous and, at worst, severely irresponsible.
I'd just like to understand why people want such awful weapons.

Well I know in my particular region of the United States people are keen on having guns because they're always waiting on something to happen and in some cases look forward to whatever that something is. The something can range from a race war to a home invasion to a terrorist attack to some kind of impending government crack down, whatever it is they feel they need their deadly weapons to protect themselves from that inevitable something that's lurking around the corner. I also think small penis syndrome factors into the need to have several large, deadly weapons but to a lesser extent.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:49 PM

I don't think anyone other than full-on lunatic militias types are opposed to gun control in principle. The disagreements come from what level of control exists. That's where the US should ape other nations. 5 yearly firearm licensing with a basic psychological report, mandatory training of x hours per year and a clean criminal record is all that's really needed, and with a system like that you could legalize either concealed or open carry without issues.

I suppose that really you don't want gun control, but control of people who can access guns. Subtly different.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE (TheKryptonite @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 12:42)
QUOTE (Claude94 @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:36)
QUOTE (TheKryptonite @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 13:35)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Friday, Dec 14 2012, 19:29)
Shooters name is 20 year old Ryan Lanza

24.

From what I've heard on TV, they found a body at his home that may be his mother. This is pretty f*cked up.

I think I heard that the mother was one of the teachers that was killed.

And wtf at this:

https://pbs.twimg.co...AQgFA.png:large
https://pbs.twimg.co...vvfCUAAD-0G.png
https://pbs.twimg.co...vvfCUAAD-0G.png

Horrible CNN. I would sue them.




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