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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:12 AM Edited by faizanali, 17 November 2012 - 02:11 AM.

NOT CONFIRMED BUT POSSIBLE



To Tell You What it actually is:

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Another Example:


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Now in GTA V
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Source: http://www.ign.com/i...670477d835a805d

Max Payne 3 showed us that RAGE was just not only physically defining but Ambient Occlusion proved that it can Also keep up Graphically with today's refined Engines.

The importance in Today's Games
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:18 AM

I'm confused what your trying to say, please elaborate

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:19 AM

How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:22 AM Edited by faizanali, 17 November 2012 - 01:31 AM.

QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:19)
How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

GTA IV didn't had it, It was simple lighting, GTA V has Real Time Reflective Lighting System which by knowing im totally shocked.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:22 AM

erm - use image from the trailer 2 . when Franklin arguing with his sister?gf? biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:26 AM

I've never seen a forum were so many people 'Confirm' things with out having proof...


.... sounds more like religion

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:26 AM

QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:22)
QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:19)
How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

GTA IV didn't had it, It was simple lighting, GTA IV has Real Time Reflective Lighting System which by knowing im totally shocked.

Wait what?
You stated GTA IV doesnt have it, then GTA IV have it.

Real Time Reflective Lighting didn't have GTA IV, but it had ordinary ligting, and that picture doesn't show Real Time Reflective Lighting

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:27 AM

QUOTE (FrizzleFry361 @ Friday, Nov 16 2012, 19:26)
I've never seen a forum were so many people 'Confirm' things with out having proof...

This^

I think they forgot what the term Confirm means. It doesnt mean I Have a theory.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:27 AM

QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:26)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:22)
QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:19)
How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

GTA IV didn't had it, It was simple lighting, GTA V has Real Time Reflective Lighting System which by knowing im totally shocked.

Wait what?
You stated GTA IV doesnt have it, then GTA IV have it.

Real Time Reflective Lighting didn't have GTA IV, but it had ordinary ligting, and that picture doesn't show Real Time Reflective Lighting

Sorry my bad fixed

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:29 AM

QUOTE (killahmatic @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:27)
QUOTE (FrizzleFry361 @ Friday, Nov 16 2012, 19:26)
I've never seen a forum were so many people 'Confirm' things with out having proof...

This^

I think they forgot what the term Confirm means. It doesnt mean I Have a theory.

Don't know why but this made me seriously LOL

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:29 AM

QUOTE (killahmatic @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:27)
QUOTE (FrizzleFry361 @ Friday, Nov 16 2012, 19:26)
I've never seen a forum were so many people 'Confirm' things with out having proof...

This^

I think they forgot what the term Confirm means. It doesnt mean I Have a theory.

Are you blind or something? Take a look at Trailer 2 and you will know, If you aren't interested in knowing things then Exit is the way.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:19)
How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

Agreed.

GTA IV had realistic, moving shadows too...

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:35 AM Edited by faizanali, 17 November 2012 - 01:38 AM.

QUOTE (motorider420 @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:32)
QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:19)
How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

Agreed.

GTA IV had realistic, moving shadows too...

Guys do not judge GTA IV's Graphics it was not that good.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:36 AM

QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:35)
QUOTE (motorider420 @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:32)
QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:19)
How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

Agreed.

GTA IV had realistic, moving shadows too...

Moving Shadows lolwut?

It did, you could see the shadows moving as the minutes went by.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:36 AM

"get exited"

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:37 AM

The character models in V trailer #2, look closer to Max Payne 3 than they do GTA IV or RDR.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:39 AM


This was used with a mod, GTA V has this without the MOD.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:40 AM

So great, we get better lighting.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:45 AM

QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:39)

This was used with a mod, GTA V has this without the MOD.

how do u know ?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:47 AM

QUOTE (Boss7dm @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:45)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:39)

This was used with a mod, GTA V has this without the MOD.

how do u know ?

AFTER WHAT I EXPLAINED ON THE TOP AND U STILL ASKING HOW DO I KNOW? HOW DO I KNOW? turn.gif

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:50 AM

QUOTE (DE4TH @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:36)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:35)
QUOTE (motorider420 @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:32)
QUOTE (r34ld34l @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:19)
How picture proves this? It is just ordinary shadow, just like in GTA IV.

Agreed.

GTA IV had realistic, moving shadows too...

Moving Shadows lolwut?

It did, you could see the shadows moving as the minutes went by.

That is the SUN THE SUN PEOPLE, GROW UP.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:51 AM

The article you linked that talks about Global Illumination is an example of Medal of Honor that uses Beast (as mentioned in article) where the lighting is prerendered onto texture lightmaps for HOURS on modern high end computers.

This works in games like Medal of Honor or Call of Duty where there isn't real-time day/night cycles and weather system. So what you're referring to won't work at all in GTAV.


Not exactly sure why you say this is confirmed. You say we should only look at screenshots, but, you also need to think a little and realize the lightmaps example like with Beast only works in non-realtime lighting environments where there is no day/night cycle.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:52 AM

QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:47)
QUOTE (Boss7dm @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:45)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:39)

This was used with a mod, GTA V has this without the MOD.

how do u know ?

AFTER WHAT I EXPLAINED ON THE TOP AND U STILL ASKING HOW DO I KNOW? HOW DO I KNOW? turn.gif

if was confirmed it's nice news

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:53 AM Edited by faizanali, 17 November 2012 - 01:55 AM.

QUOTE (Adriaan @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:51)
The article you linked that talks about Global Illumination is an example of Medal of Honor that uses Beast (as mentioned in article) where the lighting is prerendered onto texture lightmaps for HOURS on modern high end computers.

This works in games like Medal of Honor or Call of Duty where there isn't real-time day/night cycles and weather system. So what you're referring to won't work at all in GTAV.


Not exactly sure why you say this is confirmed.

Adriaan are you dumb or something? COD doesn't have Global Illumination, ANd LOL WUT ONLY IN NON DYNAMIC DAY/Night Circle GAMES turn.gif
Please read this on Wiki and then come back I wasn't being rude

GI/Real Time Radiosity has nothing TO DO WITH DAY/NIGHT CIRCLE

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:55 AM Edited by Adriaan, 17 November 2012 - 01:57 AM.

QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 03:53)
Adriaan are you dumb or something? COD doesn't have Global Illumination, ANd LOL WUT ONLY IN NON OPEN WORLD GAMES  turn.gif

You linked to this article: http://i.imgur.com/VWOkr.png?1

And yes, the latest COD has global illumination baked into texture lightmaps.

QUOTE (Adriaan @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 03:55)
ANd LOL WUT ONLY IN NON OPEN WORLD GAMES

I was reading a few posts on a forum from an actual RAGE engine developer where he was talking about how it's essentially impossible to have real-time global illumination. Although this shouldn't be a surprise to people that know a little more about this kind of stuff.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:56 AM

QUOTE (Adriaan @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:55)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 03:53)
Adriaan are you dumb or something? COD doesn't have Global Illumination, ANd LOL WUT ONLY IN NON OPEN WORLD GAMES  turn.gif

You linked to this article: http://i.imgur.com/VWOkr.png?1

And yes, the latest COD has global illumination baked into texture lightmaps.

Adriaan, COD BO2 has Baked Lighting, Which means IT IS NOT REAL TIME. Please watch the video up there.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:57 AM

you think R* will put this Adriaan?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:58 AM

QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:47)
QUOTE (Boss7dm @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:45)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:39)

This was used with a mod, GTA V has this without the MOD.

how do u know ?

AFTER WHAT I EXPLAINED ON THE TOP AND U STILL ASKING HOW DO I KNOW? HOW DO I KNOW? turn.gif

You explained sh*t.
Sorry, but I still don't get this.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:59 AM

QUOTE (HUGOHL @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:58)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:47)
QUOTE (Boss7dm @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:45)
QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 01:39)

This was used with a mod, GTA V has this without the MOD.

how do u know ?

AFTER WHAT I EXPLAINED ON THE TOP AND U STILL ASKING HOW DO I KNOW? HOW DO I KNOW? turn.gif

You explained sh*t.
Sorry, but I still don't get this.

http://en.wikipedia....al_illumination

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:00 AM Edited by Adriaan, 17 November 2012 - 02:04 AM.

QUOTE (faizanali @ Saturday, Nov 17 2012, 03:56)
Adriaan, COD BO2 has Baked Lighting, Which means IT IS NOT REAL TIME. Please watch the video up there.

Yes.... I know... that's what I was saying. It has global illumination baked into lightmaps. I think you're confused.

As real-time global illumination isn't possible on a current generation of consoles, I'm not sure why you are saying this is CONFIRMED for GTAV by linking to an article that talks about non-realtime lit games.


Again, why are you saying this is confirmed when we're dealing with two different things here?




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