Quantcast

Jump to content

» «
Photo

Toreno

27 replies to this topic
bobgtafan
  • bobgtafan

    The last thing you never see

  • Members
  • Joined: 21 Apr 2009

#1

Posted 09 September 2012 - 12:03 AM

I have a simple question. Is it because of Toreno and the CIA that everything in San Andreas happened? Is he the reason crack flooded the streets thus leading eventually leading to CJ's mom being killed by CRASH? I've read some of you say Toreno had a direct hand in CRASH. So tell me, was it all Toreno from the start?

Fisciletti
  • Fisciletti

    Ghetto Star

  • Members
  • Joined: 20 Aug 2012
  • Brazil

#2

Posted 09 September 2012 - 01:02 AM

I think so.

lil weasel
  • lil weasel

    Shoot Looters, Hang Pirates!

  • Members
  • Joined: 25 Dec 2006
  • None

#3

Posted 09 September 2012 - 01:18 AM

Not at all. Toreno's Business was for export to finance his work with whatever letter group he ran. It is presumed he is CIA but the group is never identified.
He is also working cross-purposed to other government men who may or may not be of the same organization.
More interesting Questios never answered:
What did CJ deliver by the Rustler? Why did he attract attention by flying so low? Why did this flight attract 'attention' by flying High?
Why did Toreno need CJ kill men on the ship and steal the plane. When CJ could have attacked the 'ships' by land.
How did the 'ships' get into the lakes, why?

Nukey Shay
  • Nukey Shay

    Trick

  • Members
  • Joined: 03 Jun 2010

#4

Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:15 PM

Why over-analyze mission aspects when it's obvious that by removing them the missions would have no challenge at all? Invent whatever subplot you want to fill the gaps in logic. This is a game.

BTW flying low is the way to avoid secure missile lock. This also works outside the mission.

Лёшенька
  • Лёшенька

    KGB agent

  • Members
  • Joined: 04 Jul 2006

#5

Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:21 PM

I just love Toreno's missions because they leave so much for the imagination.

Radoonhagaydoon
  • Radoonhagaydoon

    Ignorance lives everywhere.

  • BUSTED!
  • Joined: 29 Mar 2012

#6

Posted 23 December 2012 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Saturday, Sep 8 2012, 20:18)
Why did Toreno need CJ kill men on the ship and steal the plane. When CJ could have attacked the 'ships' by land.

Too obvious. Mike needed CJ to be unobvious so Mike's "Enemies" don't see it coming, it's confusing I know, but Toreno is random just like his voice actor.

DarrinPA
  • DarrinPA

    Orange Grove Member

  • Members
  • Joined: 31 Mar 2009
  • None

#7

Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:14 PM

If you watch the introduction on youtube [30 or 40 minute long one, not the in game intro] you'll see that Toreno is with T-bone Mendez and is irritated at somebody on the phone, assumed to be Tennpenny, for a reason. After which Tennpenny goes and forces Big Smoke to put a hit out on Sweet. I believe Toreno was the top guy in the Loco syndicate and was unhappy that somebody [Sweet] was stopping the streets from being flooded with Yay [or crack]. If Sweet wasn't stopping the drugs, the hit wouldn't have been put out - Thus Toreno was [in my observations] responsible for CJ's mother's death.

Think about it; Jizzy and Ryder were dead yet the streets were still able to be flooded with drugs while CJ was in LV. I think it's due to Sweet being in jail, exactly where Toreno would want him so that he's out of the way, while CJ was delivering mysterious packages for Toreno to the same spot that the Loco Syndicate would meet. I think CJ was unknowingly helping collect and spread the drugs.

Making CJ steal the Jet was for the use of getting drugs into San Andreas easier and quicker compared to the other ways in N.O.E. and Interdiction.

AuSsIeThUnDeR36
  • AuSsIeThUnDeR36

    Ghetto Star

  • Members
  • Joined: 29 Jan 2012

#8

Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:06 AM

Who were on the flotilla of spy ships? Cubans? Russians?

lil weasel
  • lil weasel

    Shoot Looters, Hang Pirates!

  • Members
  • Joined: 25 Dec 2006
  • None

#9

Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:40 AM

Unknown. A real question to ask is where did they come from and How did they get into a land locked dam lake? And what were they going to do?

richard1997jones
  • richard1997jones

    Homie

  • Members
  • Joined: 02 Dec 2012

#10

Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

I love toreno's mission cos they are so far out

AuSsIeThUnDeR36
  • AuSsIeThUnDeR36

    Ghetto Star

  • Members
  • Joined: 29 Jan 2012

#11

Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:54 AM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Wednesday, Dec 26 2012, 03:40)
Unknown. A real question to ask is where did they come from and How did they get into a land locked dam lake? And what were they going to do?

I guess all we can say is that they were spies as they were on 'spy ships' and maybe they were air dropped in there by Leviathan.
Maybe they were going to do a spot of fishing afterward lol

GTASAddict
  • GTASAddict

    0_0

  • Awaiting Authorisation
  • Joined: 24 Dec 2012

#12

Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:27 PM

Some interesting questions I've wondered about here, myself. I think only Rockstar can answer such questions.

BabeRuth
  • BabeRuth

    Bronx Bombers Stadium

  • Members
  • Joined: 23 Dec 2010

#13

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:08 AM

QUOTE (Radoonhagaydoon @ Sunday, Dec 23 2012, 19:45)
Toreno is random just like his voice actor.

He was voiced by James Woods dozingoff.gif .........

Radoonhagaydoon
  • Radoonhagaydoon

    Ignorance lives everywhere.

  • BUSTED!
  • Joined: 29 Mar 2012

#14

Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (BabeRuth @ Tuesday, Jan 22 2013, 02:08)
QUOTE (Radoonhagaydoon @ Sunday, Dec 23 2012, 19:45)
Toreno is random just like his voice actor.

He was voiced by James Woods dozingoff.gif .........

Damn, I can't even remember why I made that post. I think I MEANT that James Woods is bit random. dunno

BabeRuth
  • BabeRuth

    Bronx Bombers Stadium

  • Members
  • Joined: 23 Dec 2010

#15

Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

It's okay. You had a blonde moment everybody has em' smile.gif .

Try to remember next time icon14.gif

DarrinPA
  • DarrinPA

    Orange Grove Member

  • Members
  • Joined: 31 Mar 2009
  • None

#16

Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (AuSsIeThUnDeR36 @ Tuesday, Dec 25 2012, 22:06)
Who were on the flotilla of spy ships? Cubans? Russians?

Toreno probably wasn't honest with CJ, they weren't spy ships but simply american Navy ships that Toreno needed out of his way.

Radoonhagaydoon
  • Radoonhagaydoon

    Ignorance lives everywhere.

  • BUSTED!
  • Joined: 29 Mar 2012

#17

Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:55 PM

How were they Navy ships if they look like somebody's vacation boat!!

lil weasel
  • lil weasel

    Shoot Looters, Hang Pirates!

  • Members
  • Joined: 25 Dec 2006
  • None

#18

Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:04 PM

It doesn't matter. If a U.S. government agency says, "kill some sportfishermen". You kill some 'sportfishermen'. or spend your last days in Cuba on 'Holiday'! icon14.gif

DarrinPA
  • DarrinPA

    Orange Grove Member

  • Members
  • Joined: 31 Mar 2009
  • None

#19

Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:04 PM

That's the game developers fault, not the Navy's. biggrin.gif But seriously, they could have been drug-running boats or something. Perhaps Toreno was in competition with them, considering that he also sold drugs.

Radoonhagaydoon
  • Radoonhagaydoon

    Ignorance lives everywhere.

  • BUSTED!
  • Joined: 29 Mar 2012

#20

Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:10 PM

What do you mean Lil Weasel?


King Andreas
  • King Andreas

    (_)

  • Members
  • Joined: 12 Jun 2013
  • None

#21

Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:04 PM

Toreno would make a great Antagonist for a San Andreas sequel.

radioman
  • radioman

    Big Homie

  • Members
  • Joined: 19 Apr 2006

#22

Posted 13 June 2013 - 07:04 PM

You must have missed the GTA V section, huh lol tounge2.gif As V is pretty much a SA sequel(and an updated version too), as it is set in Los Santos and the surrounding country side(just as SA was-minus San Francisco and Las Vegas of coarse)...It comes out 9/17/2013.... tounge2.gif lol.gif

King Andreas
  • King Andreas

    (_)

  • Members
  • Joined: 12 Jun 2013
  • None

#23

Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:00 AM Edited by King Andreas, 27 June 2013 - 09:07 AM.

When Toreno said: "People sharing; nobody buying stuff", was that a reference to piracy?

The Armageddon
  • The Armageddon

    Zohair Irani

  • Members
  • Joined: 24 May 2013

#24

Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (radioman @ Friday, Jun 14 2013, 02:04)
You must have missed the GTA V section, huh lol tounge2.gif As V is pretty much a SA sequel(and an updated version too), as it is set in Los Santos and the surrounding country side(just as SA was-minus San Francisco and Las Vegas of coarse)...It comes out 9/17/2013.... tounge2.gif lol.gif

I asked this once in GTA V. And it was confirmed that GTA V is NOT related to San Andreas.
Like it is a different universe.

King Andreas
  • King Andreas

    (_)

  • Members
  • Joined: 12 Jun 2013
  • None

#25

Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:39 AM

If GTA V is unrelated to San Andreas, I won't be buying it, let alone playing it. Such a shame, indeed.

This would be a great intro to a San Andreas sequel: Kendl & Cesar are at their wedding when suddenly, police raid the chapel, and arrest Sweet in accordance with the demands of the antagonist, Mike Toreno.

erl12end
  • erl12end

    Player Hater

  • Members
  • Joined: 04 Nov 2012

#26

Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (King Andreas @ Thursday, Jun 27 2013, 11:00)
When Toreno said: "People sharing; nobody buying stuff", was that a reference to piracy?

I think it rather was meant about communism and socialism. If I remember right in the same cutscene he mentions something about communism growing in Ohio.

Lord_Starfish
  • Lord_Starfish

    Player Hater

  • Members
  • Joined: 28 Jun 2013

#27

Posted 28 June 2013 - 04:12 AM

Toreno is one of my favorite characters! tounge.gif

chapapote
  • chapapote

    Homie

  • Members
  • Joined: 17 Jan 2008

#28

Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 01:18)
Not at all. Toreno's Business was for export to finance his work with whatever letter group he ran. It is presumed he is CIA but the group is never identified.
He is also working cross-purposed to other government men who may or may not be of the same organization.
More interesting Questios never answered:
What did CJ deliver by the Rustler? Why did he attract attention by flying so low? Why did this flight attract 'attention' by flying High?
Why did Toreno need CJ kill men on the ship and steal the plane. When CJ could have attacked the 'ships' by land.
How did the 'ships' get into the lakes, why?

I think he meant whether it was Toreno who started the whole crack traffic thing around Los Santos, or it was already before him and he only entered it as a way to get money.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users