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Craigsters
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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Craigsters, 2 weeks ago.

It took me over a hour or more to get that Transfer Settlements - Shareable Settlement Blueprints by CDante mod to work, first I didn't know I had Eula agreement to agree to for the game awaiting sense I always use  the f4se_loader - Shortcut from my desktop to launch the game and then I found out I hadn't installed  F4SE properly, it know has a Data folder and after I re-downloaded F4SE and installed it again with  the loader and two dll and data folder I was finally able to  launch and start a new game, without the  F4SE  data folder I kept getting the red rocket opening scene infinite loop screen and no option to start a new game!..


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#9212

Posted 2 weeks ago

Do you guys want the next fallout to include the settlement stuff ? I really want to see a fallout in china

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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Sir Michael, 2 weeks ago.

I wouldn't mind having the settlement mechanics again, but I'd rather see more pre-established settlements like the ones in past Fallout games. I didn't like that Diamond City, Bunker Hill and Goodneighbor (I guess the Institute and Vault 81 also count) were the only established settlements the second we left the Vault, meanwhile other places were abandoned and loaded with enemies. Towns like Concord and Salem weren't as devastated by the bombs compared to other places around the Commonwealth, there could've been an opportunity to turn them into populated towns. Other than doing quests, looting or randomly exploring the place, there's no real incentive to go back to these towns. IMO, they felt like wasted potential.

 

China would be an interesting setting, but it would be pretty strange to see that deviation from the American culture we're so accustom to. I don't know how it would fare as a main game, but it would make a good idea for a DLC given we have a means of actually getting to China, whether by sea or air (if that's even possible). Still, I'd like to see what post-war China would look like.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

Oldsport, Art Deco never really hit that country, it would make the whole world look a lot different. Not that it's a bad thing and it would surely be something interesting to know the "other side" of the war, and if we are well used to what happened to US on Fallout's world, it would be interesting to know what the supposed enemies got in return. However, I'm not sure if most players would want to see the franchise taking that course.

Personally, I'd love to see, either as a DLC or a spin-off standalone game, an interactive world before the bombs being dropped. We spend hours and hours wandering arround old ruins imagining how things used to be, and even managed to take a glance on that matter both depicted in Sanctuary Hills in FO4's prologue and the virtual environment of Tranquility Lane - but what abount an actual open world where you could be a soldier and experience the States' decadence.
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Posted 2 weeks ago

Oldsport, Art Deco never really hit that country, it would make the whole world look a lot different. Not that it's a bad thing and it would surely be something interesting to know the "other side" of the war, and if we are well used to what happened to US on Fallout's world, it would be interesting to know what the supposed enemies got in return. However, I'm not sure if most players would want to see the franchise taking that course.

Personally, I'd love to see, either as a DLC or a spin-off standalone game, an interactive world before the bombs being dropped. We spend hours and hours wandering arround old ruins imagining how things used to be, and even managed to take a glance on that matter both depicted in Sanctuary Hills in FO4's prologue and the virtual environment of Tranquility Lane - but what abount an actual open world where you could be a soldier and experience the States' decadence.

J.E. Sawyer wanted to do a Resource Wars game at one point. Supposedly it would take place in Europe, not exactly the US though. I suppose they could have two storylines to choose from, one to see Pre-War America and one for Europe. The downside would be that it would probably stretch the development team thin to put something that elaborate in.


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Posted 2 weeks ago

I agree with all of you. I do think a china 'fallout' game would be more of a serious game than the light hearted fallout 4. I know art deco probably hasnt hit china but wasnt the chinese more advanced than the usa in fallout lore ? They have advanced stealth suits, nukes, submarines and stuff lol and the us stole the stealth boy tech from chinese. But basically what im trying to say is , i think the chinese was more advanced and most likely won the war. They probably have their cities back built up by now. Id love to see a chinese soldier sent to america and see all of chinas advanced power. Sorry for the late reply yall.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

Your comment made me wonder about the idea of multiple characters. You could, for example, switch between a character from the States and another from China that could be connected somehow and either had met before or would eventually meet each other later on the story.

That's something not unusual on RPGs, either, not only the mechanic exists on GTA V it was also common, for example, in the Final Fantasy franchise.
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Posted 2 weeks ago

I'm currently doing another play through and trying to change things up from my original storyline.

Does anyone else here have a problem attempting to empathise with anyone side from the RR? I'm trying to like the BoS but, seriously, they are just jerks in tin cans.

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#9219

Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Zombified Andy, 2 weeks ago.

I dislike BoS on this game, their policies on FO3 (although I know they are supposed to act just like in FO4) were a lot better and there they were actually doing something good for the population. The Institute

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#9220

Posted 2 weeks ago

 wasnt the chinese more advanced than the usa in fallout lore ?

Nope. The Chinese were not as advance as the Americans in the lore. The only thing they had going for them were those stealth suits, and that's it. The Americans were steamrolling them in China. Also the Chinese launched first. They were losing and thus started the apocalypse. 

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Posted 2 weeks ago

A more populated world would make sense. Enough time has passed and I feel like in new Vegas, there would be more established settlements; intact areas like concord would likely have become fortified in some way; whoever set up there would likely know the threat that their attractive settlement would carry.

I actually loved the settlement building but I felt it distracted too much; the story and entire game aside from that is built as a shooter, not an rpg. You can't build your own personality, and definitely can't explore different morals, beyond siding with one faction or another. I really was obsidian to get their hands on the tools and release a fallout 4 subtitle - I'd salivate at the thought of a game with 4's mechanics, new vegas's atmosphere and story depth and freedom, with the settlement building mode (let's not forget where it's origins are).

But I doubt it.

I personally wouldn't like a game in China much. I loved sleeping dogs but I don't feel fallout would fare too well outside of the US (much like GTA, with its American satire).

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A more populated world would make sense. Enough time has passed and I feel like in new Vegas, there would be more established settlements; intact areas like concord would likely have become fortified in some way; whoever set up there would likely know the threat that their attractive settlement would carry.
I actually loved the settlement building but I felt it distracted too much; the story and entire game aside from that is built as a shooter, not an rpg. You can't build your own personality, and definitely can't explore different morals, beyond siding with one faction or another. I really was obsidian to get their hands on the tools and release a fallout 4 subtitle - I'd salivate at the thought of a game with 4's mechanics, new vegas's atmosphere and story depth and freedom, with the settlement building mode (let's not forget where it's origins are).
But I doubt it.
I personally wouldn't like a game in China much. I loved sleeping dogs but I don't feel fallout would fare too well outside of the US (much like GTA, with its American satire).

It sucks that most of the locations in game have no real purpose other than being a background for a quest.

In the next game, I hope that we can build massive settlements like Diamond City, or maybe even transform an existing city and even become mayor. They could introduce more complicated city stuff like an economy and things of that nature. By the end of it, you'd have a massive, growing metropolis under your control.

I could go on for days about what they could do with the settlement part of the game.
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Posted 2 weeks ago

That's be cool but two things:

1) they'd have to get the basics right; in 4, your settlers tend to ignore their posts and congregate in random places - my vault had 90% of my population all in the atrium area; the robots should have been at their guard posts near the entrance and the tunnel to the generator, and the residents were assigned to various agricultural or retail roles, none of whom were ever at their shop!

2) they'd have to remember what the game is; settlement stuff is great and all but only in addition to a solid story, free choices and rpg elements. I felt 4 forgot that, and was just a shooter. Adding settlement stuff is a good way of making the game feel bigger with less work (not so much story writing and voice acting etc, just a few placeable items)
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Posted A week ago

I just hope the next fallout is way more story driven. Also, i Heard since bethesda engine is so old that they are in process of creating a new one

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Posted A week ago

That's be cool but two things:
1) they'd have to get the basics right; in 4, your settlers tend to ignore their posts and congregate in random places - my vault had 90% of my population all in the atrium area; the robots should have been at their guard posts near the entrance and the tunnel to the generator, and the residents were assigned to various agricultural or retail roles, none of whom were ever at their shop!
2) they'd have to remember what the game is; settlement stuff is great and all but only in addition to a solid story, free choices and rpg elements. I felt 4 forgot that, and was just a shooter. Adding settlement stuff is a good way of making the game feel bigger with less work (not so much story writing and voice acting etc, just a few placeable items)

Yeah, for some reason, Bethesda just don't give a single f*ck about things like this. It's astonishing really.

And yeah, a focus on RPG gameplay is more important, I hope they remember that before it turns into a full blown FPS game like COD.

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Posted A week ago

I'll give Bethesda this: gunplay feels much better in this game than in Fallout 3 and New Vegas. It's not groundbreaking, but it does its job. FO3 and NV's weapon designs were easy on the eyes though...

 

Putting that aside, they ought to bring in new writers. I don't like how their two games initially involve finding a lost family member, it felt kind of cheesy IMO.

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Posted A week ago

And retreading old paths, too. I'd honestly like a story where it sets you up for freedom - nv did this well. A simple but basic vengeance story, that is really just the backdrop to a wider, more progressive arc, that affords us more freedom in our character

4, we HAD to play the worried parent, no matter what. I can't truly play as a drug addict, care-for-nothing soulless asshat when the character goes on about their son all the time. It wasn't a bad starting point but it's old hat
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Posted A week ago

 I can't truly play as a drug addict, care-for-nothing soulless asshat when the character goes on about their son all the time.

I take it you've never met any real drug-addicts, then. 

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Posted A week ago

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Went to Nuka World at level 30... horrible idea. The Gauntlet took me a while to finish, and those creatures outside the park just make things worse. I got f*cking one-swiped by a Cave Cricket right after I healed from fighting a group of Radscorpions. I ended up going back to the Commonwealth after that, I'm far too weak to handle Nuka World right now and it didn't help that I arrived with only a .44, a Combat Knife and Deliverer.

 

Also, after doing a bunch of stealth playthroughs, I figured I'd rather do something different and not upgrade the Sneak perk past its first stage. Magically ignoring mines, traps, and having silent footsteps made the game too easy. I did lose an hour of progress to one of those grenade bouquets, that was pretty annoying.

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#9230

Posted 5 days ago Edited by Pat, 5 days ago.

Well, this is interesting.



It seems like pretty much all mod authors have decided against using Kinggath's script due to Papyrus being too slow for it to be worth it, but apparently this version works much differently. As I understand it, Kinggath's script would basically monitor the amount of rounds in the magazine and change the animation keyword based on that. This is where Papyrus being so slow comes into play - it would frequently take too long to update after a shot is fired, leading to it feeding incorrect information to the script and thus playing the wrong animation. This version, however, doesn't change the animation, it simply forces it to stop playing after a certain amount of time. I don't know if it still utilizes Papyrus or not, so if it does I wouldn't get my hopes up because it might still suffer the same issues as Kinggath's, but this could end up being the new go to for weapons that load round-by-round like shotguns and such. I know DeadPool and Hitman were very much against using Kinggath's script for the Hunting Shotgun, but maybe this version will change their minds.

Edit: it's also worth noting that this version works flawlessly in third person, unlike Kinggath's script which reequipped the weapon every time it changed the animation keyword (ie every time you fired a shot). That was arguably the smallest issue with his script (at least from the perspective of a first person player) but I'm sure it was a very big turn off for third person players, so it's nice to see that it's not an issue with this version.
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Posted 2 days ago

I have a peculiar problem with Fallout 4. In fact, I don't even know if it's actually a problem or not. During the latest holiday sale I bought the Far Harbor DLC, and thereafter started up Fallout 4 for the first time in some while. When I looked up the available DLC:s in the add-on menu however, it said that all DLC:s except the High Resolution Textures were installed. I thought it was just some kind of error, but then I started up my latest save where I've finished the main story, and noticed that all the quests for all add-ons came up. I went to do the Automatron quest, fully expecting to see something like "you have to buy this add-on to continue the quest" but nope, there was action and flabbergasted as I was, I got killed.

 

My question is: is this normal? It really doesn't feel like it. This may sound stupid, but I don't want to continue with any of those quests when I actually haven't bought the DLC. It feels like it could have consequences if I went on to get all the achievements and such. I could try to reinstall the game and see what happens.





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