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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:30 AM

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The BMW 8 Series. Simply gorgeous.

I'm actually considering to waste a bit more money and get this instead of an E32/E34...

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (*MURDOC* @ Saturday, Dec 29 2012, 20:54)
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The black 1972 Daytona Spyder 365 GTS/4 from Miami Vice is the most beautiful one.


I believe that show used a 'Vette-based replica, didn't they?

They did, but so what?

Miss your pills today?

Now whats the problem? If we are only talking about looks then the Daytona is a great looking car. Doesnt matter if its a replica or not, the bodyshape is the same. Ofc its not right to use a Vette based Ferrari but MV producers didnt have the money, ancient history allready.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

I never said anything of the sort, the car (even the replica) is beautiful, and I totally understand them using a replica for the show.

But you have to be so f*cking hostile because you're a little whiney bitch.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:05 PM

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But you have to be so f*cking hostile because you're a little whiney bitch.

Wait a minute, what did i say wrong?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:16 AM

QUOTE (Garfield 2 @ Saturday, Dec 29 2012, 18:30)
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The BMW 8 Series. Simply gorgeous.

I'm actually considering to waste a bit more money and get this instead of an E32/E34...

Very nice car, but I hate those wheels on it.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:22 AM

Those wheels are the sh*t. Super rare E31-only staggered 17x8/17x9 Style 5's. Different ET than the square 17x8 E39 version and they have the normal 72.56 mm centerbore so you don't need hubcentric rings to throw them on most any 5 lug BMW. They're easily $1500 for a good used set.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:28 AM

Doesn't change that I don't like them. To me, these look much better:
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:42 AM

I sort of agree with carlover here. But i dont understand tough Lurch how those rims are rare? Almost every 8 series i have ever seen, and thats not too many, have mostly had that kind of rims.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE (Sup3rman @ Monday, Dec 31 2012, 06:42)
Almost every 8 series i have ever seen, and thats not too many, have mostly had that kind of rims.

Do you not realize how rare the 8-series platform itself is?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE (Pat @ Monday, Dec 31 2012, 13:24)
QUOTE (Sup3rman @ Monday, Dec 31 2012, 06:42)
Almost every 8 series i have ever seen, and thats not too many, have mostly had that kind of rims.

Do you not realize how rare the 8-series platform itself is?

They are more expensive than rare. There are 7 for sale as i see now from the most popular used vehicle selling page in my country. Thats a lot for such a car. Ofc they are rare too but for the high price nobody seems to want one.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (Sup3rman @ Monday, Dec 31 2012, 14:29)
They are more expensive than rare. There are 7 for sale as i see now from the most popular used vehicle selling page in my country.

As a comparison, there are 16 8-series cars currently for sale on the premier classified site for sports and high performance cars in the UK. On the same site, there are 20 Aston Martin V12 Vantages, 77 Ferrari 458s, 22 Lamborghini Murcielagos, 18 McLaren MP4-12Cs and almost 60 911 GT3s split between 996 and 997 models.

They're rare, no two ways about it. There's almost as many Ultimas listed on PistonHeads as there are 8-series.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:53 PM

I've found 7 offers in Poland with http://otomoto.pl/bm...-C26560218.html being the cheapest (5866 euros)

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

I've never seen one. Not even at car meets, or shows. Are they not in America? Or atleast very few left or something. (I've seen more r33's then those)

Nice car none the less, wish I could see one.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

The 8-series is rare, but judging how on Autotrader many of the photos were apparently taken in the summer, I'd say the demand for them is very low.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE (SRB @ Monday, Dec 31 2012, 06:46)
I've never seen one. Not even at car meets, or shows. Are they not in America? Or atleast very few left or something. (I've seen more r33's then those)

Nice car none the less, wish I could see one.

They are in America, just not very many of them. The last one I saw was about 6 months ago at my mechanic's shop. It was a really nice deep red color. Mechanic said the 12-cylinder was swapped out with a 350-small block V8.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:08 PM Edited by Lurch, 31 December 2012 - 11:51 PM.

QUOTE (Sup3rman @ Monday, Dec 31 2012, 07:42)
I sort of agree with carlover here. But i dont understand tough Lurch how those rims are rare? Almost every 8 series i have ever seen, and thats not too many, have mostly had that kind of rims.

Most common style E31 wheels in the US are these 2:

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While style 5's in a square 17x8 setup are apparently a fairly common option on newer non-sports in Europe, I'm not sure American E31's ever had them.

CSI's have staggered throwing stars as standard. Then staggered 18x8.5f/18x8.5 M-pars as an option. The staggered style 5's were optional on Euro CSI's but not american CSI's.

So in a little over 30,000 E31's made total, I'd bet less than 5000 have factory Style 5's. And maybe, say 500 or so staggered sets?

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QUOTE (SRB @ Monday, Dec 31 2012, 06:46)
I've never seen one. Not even at car meets, or shows. Are they not in America? Or atleast very few left or something. (I've seen more r33's then those)

Nice car none the less, wish I could see one.

They are in America, just not very many of them. The last one I saw was about 6 months ago at my mechanic's shop. It was a really nice deep red color. Mechanic said the 12-cylinder was swapped out with a 350-small block V8.

Tis a shame. Not that I think the M70/M73 are all that great (physically huge, overweight and underpowered, especially in M70 guise), but 350 swaps have to be the most generic automotive trend ever. Maybe if it was something special in the relm of chevy V8's (Lt4, LS7, LS9, etc). LS's are light and make all the reliable steady power in the world. Old iron 350's aren't V12 heavy, but they're still heavy.

Something a little less generic that would have still kept it bmw would be an S65 or S85. Both pretty light for what they are. Expensive for sure, but nothing about E31 ownership is going to be cheap.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:24 PM

@Lurch: E31 maintenance is about the same as you would expect from an old V12 saloon like the E32 750i or the W140 S600.

This is a PM, an 850CSi owner has sent me:

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There is a banjo bolt problem which is a design flaw on the M70 (750 and 850) which causes a bolt to come loose on the oil sprayer over the camshaft (I posted photos of it before). Easily fixed (though very time consuming). Check if this was done.
Intake gaskets are very expensive (about EUR400) however last a long time.
Other stuff isnt that expensive, just need 12plugs instead of 8/6/4 obviously. The M70 uses a distributor ignition system, so the leads need to be changed from time to time. On the plus side, no expensive coilpacks to blow.
Changing the plugs is time consuming (though easy), a good mod is to change the ignition coils (2 of them) with MSD style 40v coils, allowing the use of modern long life iridium plugs (instead of the 10k km Copper plugs). Dont put iridium/platinum plugs in an M70 without changing the ignition coils from standard!

Some things are pricey (suspension a little big, steering centre drag link more so, as are Universal Flex discs) but some arent at all (eg Air Filter is shared with the 318i, you just need 2!). Bulbs are standard, belts are standard etc.

All E31's come with a snazzy and advanced (even by todays standards) OBC with an amber red display. The pixels tend to die on them, but a guy in Greece (I think) rebuilds them for like EUR100, good as new.

The other thing that needs rebuilding (to be perfect) are the throttlebodies, called DK Motors on the E31. A guy in Canada does these (among others), maybe EUR300. Its also DIY-able though I paid the guy.

Transmission is as iffy as it is on the E39 and E38, fine if taken care of and oil changed. Plenty available from breakers though.

Engine Oil - nothing excessive consumption wise. Valve stem seals can be replaced to reduce if a problem. I use 10w60 MSport oil, however 10w40 is fine too.


@Tycek: That 850 is in Warsaw, and I'm actually having a mate to come down this weekend to take a look for me.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:28 PM Edited by Lurch, 01 January 2013 - 05:52 PM.

I would never buy an auto E31. That just seems like such a boner killer. That and BMW automatics generally suck dick. If I were to get any E31 (aside from an unattainable 850CSI), it would be late M73 powered 850Ci/6 speed, or at least a 6 speed M70 car. Though the 6 speed V12's usually aren't all that cheap.


Here's every E31 for sale on ebay in the US. 2 CSI's going for huge somes of money. And then a few early M70 6 speeds also going for tons of money. Then the rest are auto. No M73 6 speed cars there. Only one cheap priced 6 speed 850i for $7500 but it's rough and needs work.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:51 PM Edited by Garfield 2, 01 January 2013 - 06:08 PM.

QUOTE (Lurch @ Tuesday, Jan 1 2013, 17:28)
I would never buy an auto E31. That just seems like such a boner killer. That and BMW automatics generally suck dick. If I were to get any E31 (aside from an unattainable 850CSI), it would be late M73 powered 850Ci/6 speed. Though the 6 speed V12's usually aren't all that cheap.

850Ci with Manual starts at 9,900 EUR, and that's from Germany. On top of that there's the excise duty @ 18.6%, Documentation is 500 EUR, Registration is 350 EUR...
Total is approximately 12,450 EUR... For that kind of cash, I'd rather get an E39 M5...

So, it's down to these options right now (in order of preference):

- BMW E39 M5 (400PS) Manual - although it costs twice as much for insurance and it's approx. 2,500 out of my budget (which is possible to get)
- BMW 850Ci GT (300PS) Auto - approximately 1,500 out of my budget (easy to get)
- BMW E34 M5 (315PS) Manual - approximately 1,500 out of my budget (easy to get)
- BMW E38 750iA (326PS) Auto
- BMW E39 540iA Saloon (286PS) Auto
- BMW E39 535i Saloon (235PS) Manual
- BMW E32 735i (218PS) Manual
- BMW E38 740iA (286PS) Auto
- Audi A8 4.2 Quattro (300PS) Auto
- BMW E36 328i Coupe (193PS) Manual
- BMW E46 325ci Coupe (192PS) Manual
- BMW E34 525i Saloon (192PS) Manual
- Audi A8 4.2 Quattro (300PS) Auto
- Audi A6 2.7 Biturbo (230PS) Manual
- Volkswagen Passat 4.0 W8 (275 PS) Auto

For more info, I'd refer you to the Car Talk Topic (if you don't know what it's about)

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:33 PM

Personally, I wouldn't bother with the Passat W8. They're an interesting oddity I have a personal soft spot for, and make a truly monumentally awesome noise, but they're much slower than you expect them to be, very expensive to keep running, somewhat fault-prone and drink fuel like the world is about to end.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 06:45 PM

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- BMW E36 328i Coupe (193PS) Manual
- BMW E46 325ci Coupe (192PS) Manual

For practicality sake, I'd narrow yourself to these two. I've driven both. E36 in 2.8 guise is wonderful to drive.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:40 AM

The Aston Martin V12 Vantage(particularly the 2013 Carbon Edition in this very coat)
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I don't know, I just love it. It's loads of carbon fiber, it's beautiful grand tourer look. I also love that interior with Bang & Olufsen(black speakers in the carbon version).
It's just awesome!
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The closest I'll ever get to owning one of these is my 1:18 AUTOart V12 Vantage. sad.gif Very nice and accurate diecast though.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:13 AM

BRZ > 86

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:30 PM


Awesome. I'd like mine with these exact colors inside and out too.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:56 AM

I've always had a thing for Skylines, especially the 2000 GT-R

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:10 AM

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I've always had a thing for Skylines, especially the 2000 GT-R

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That may be one of the most beautiful cars ever made.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

Car itself is beautiful, but what with that tunning? Can't you have old Japanese car without turning it into drift/drag machine?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

That is an awesome car. I was thinking about ordering the AUTOart version of it, but nah.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (Tycek @ Wednesday, Jan 9 2013, 13:55)
Car itself is beautiful, but what with that tunning? Can't you have old Japanese car without turning it into drift/drag machine?

Indeed. Stretched tyres on sports cars is a pet hate of mine.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:09 AM

The 2013 Audi S8


Huge fan of fullsize luxury saloons, especially powerful ones. How the hell does 4,300+ pounds move so f*cking fast? 0-60 in 3.5 seconds.
And the whole look of the saloon inside and out. I love it's stealthy yet luxurious look with full LED's, exhausts, just it's overall look.
And then that interior: Beautiful diamond stitched perforated leather seats, alcantara headliner and door padding. Just so much.




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