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Poll: HRT 1.4 (86 member(s) have cast votes)

Is HRT 1.4 the best texture mod for GTA SA?

  1. Yes, the best! (31 votes [25.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.41%

  2. Yes, the best of the best! (41 votes [33.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.61%

  3. Yes, excellent mod! (15 votes [12.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.30%

  4. Yes, brilliant work! (35 votes [28.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.69%

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#571

Posted 21 May 2013 - 10:29 PM Edited by :twitch:, 22 May 2013 - 12:15 AM.

QUOTE (Flame1251 @ Monday, May 20 2013, 12:12)
SFse, part 34
Airport


Lets get back to the airport that I'm already shown for you. Now it is completely finished.

Windows and doors at the building of guard post now have transparency, as should be. Plane at the entrance to the territory now has reflection.


Крутооооооооооооооооооооооооо!1!1!один

Very good smile.gif

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 10:57 PM Edited by Flame1251, 22 May 2013 - 03:37 PM.

:twitch:, круто что тебе нравится мод, но, пожалуйста, не матерись в этой теме. Ненавижу мат. Считаю, что в русском языке можно выразить любые чувства без него.) Буду благодарен, если ты поправишь пост.) Поправил, спасибо.

nkjellman, it is good, but now we do not know how will really looks (and works!) SA::Render. I also understand that making of compatibility with other mod only slow down the development of HRT.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:07 PM

Just do your mod, and give permission for other people to post 'fixes' for the mod to make it compatible with other mods if they so wish.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 02:21 AM

QUOTE (methodunderg @ Tuesday, May 21 2013, 23:07)
Just do your mod, and give permission for other people to post 'fixes' for the mod to make it compatible with other mods if they so wish.

I agree. If I had permission, when I release the graphics update, I would have two versions of the particle.txd and effectsPC.txd. One that is to be used with this mod and the other to be used with the default SD SA. Both would be the same textures, just would include additional textures in the txd so the other mods work properly.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:55 PM

SFse, part 35
Foster Valley and the end of work on section


I present new screenshots with Foster Valley that based on Silicon Valley. Note on beautiful movable reflections on the windows of buildings.

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Foster Valley: video

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«SFse» section is complete

Work has taken four months... More than 600 new textures weighing more than 1 Gb (and, in game format — more then 410 Mb). This is really big part of the city with many interesting objects. As always, except new textures I've improved some models; beautiful reflections are added on some models, made new texture mapping; also fixed some bugs of original location.

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#576

Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:01 PM

There is no mipmaps on the brick road confused.gif

You plan to fix it, right?

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:20 PM Edited by damiann69, 22 May 2013 - 06:25 PM.

Yeah, you have done a lot of good work in San Fierro, remained areas seems to be easier smile.gif

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE (:twitch: @ Wednesday, May 22 2013, 17:01)
There is no mipmaps on the brick road  confused.gif

No, pavement texture has it. Do you judge by video? Somehow (due to encoding on YouTube maybe or due the video format) may give the impression that textures do not have mip-maps.

QUOTE (damiann69 @ Wednesday, May 22 2013, 18:20)
Yeah, you have done a lot of good work in San Fierro, remained areas seems to be easier smile.gif

Always think so, and the work is a lot. We'll see. smile.gif

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:01 PM Edited by MrMateczko, 22 May 2013 - 09:03 PM.

Now THAT is awesome...also why do people think they are not any mipmaps. There are mipmaps! If Flame uploaded the video to Vimeo, you would see the true quality of this mod. Now that SFse is completed, will you do SFe or SFw? In either way, their .IPL files are WAY smaller. In fact the SFse .IPL file is the second biggest in SA, right next to vegasE!

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:54 PM

Still, this looks awesome! Can't wait for the release! tounge.gif

Can you make a small list of what has is finished (Most textures done, but need some small additional polishing, areas that are work in progress, and areas that haven't been started on yet?

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:20 PM

Looks good. Not sure how much of San Fierro is left, but LV should be a little easier. It is the smallest of the three cities. The country side has a lot of the same textures used too.

But could someone explain to me how mip maps work? I'm wondering if someone could show me two pics of something in San Andreas with the same texture. One with out mip maps, one with mip maps. My guess is its smaller textures overlaid on a bigger texture, but I'm not exactly 100%.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:40 PM

Mipmaps are needed to 'filter' the textures. To remove the 'grain' and improve performance by a bit.

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Very nice work Flame! Can't wait to see more!

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 05:06 AM

How to active mipmap?

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:46 AM

Through this or this. icon14.gif

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 11:35 AM

Mipmap is not compatible with SA:MP

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE (HPro @ Thursday, May 23 2013, 11:35)
Mipmap is not compatible with SA:MP

Is this reliable information?

Thanks all for good words.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 10:29 PM

i better use the n9ot mipmmapped through i see that it is more detailed

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 10:41 PM

More detailed? No. It depends on your Anisotropic filtering settings. From the comparison photos, you can see that it is set to very low, or in performance mode. It would look way better if you set it to 'Quality' in your control panel. smile.gif And who would want to play with grainy textures? tounge2.gif

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 12:58 AM

QUOTE (JF-Mir2 @ Friday, May 24 2013, 22:41)
More detailed? No. It depends on your Anisotropic filtering settings. From the comparison photos, you can see that it is set to very low, or in performance mode. It would look way better if you set it to 'Quality' in your control panel. smile.gif And who would want to play with grainy textures? tounge2.gif

That grainy textures are everywhere in gta3 era games confused.gif

Mipmapping was implimented in SA, but it does not work on all textures. I tried to create some through G-TXD, the noise is still there - won't work

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:28 AM

oh? so the detailed one depends on anisotropic filter?

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (alayanrole @ Saturday, May 25 2013, 01:28)
oh? so the detailed one depends on anisotropic filter?

I don't know what you call "detailed", but anistrophic filter is useful addition to mipmapping technology.

Mipmapping is a method which decreases specified texture's resolution as you move away from it. So if you're standing opposite to 512x512 texture on such distance that it decreases size twicely because of perspective, you can just use 256x256 texture's copy instead of.

First of, if the 512x texture decreases it's size too much because of perspective, it will look oversharped, with some visual glitches, lost details e.t.c

and second, smaller textures require less PC resources.

And anistrophic filtering increases textures and especcialy texture's mipmaps quality.

I hope my english is understandable

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 11:11 PM

Not really. GTA3 and Vice City had mipmaps too.

Mipmap LevelTexture Resolution
Level 122048x2048
Level 111024x1024
Level 10512x512
Level 9256x256
Level 8128x128
Level 764x64
Level 632x32

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:17 AM

QUOTE (JF-Mir2 @ Saturday, May 25 2013, 23:11)
Not really. GTA3 and Vice City had mipmaps too.

Mipmap LevelTexture Resolution
Level 122048x2048
Level 111024x1024
Level 10512x512
Level 9256x256
Level 8128x128
Level 764x64
Level 632x32

I thought that VC's and gta3's textures are just low resolution.

So they are glitchy too, it's just not so noticable

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:44 AM

QUOTE (JF-Mir2 @ Saturday, May 25 2013, 23:11)
Not really. GTA3 and Vice City had mipmaps too.

We can generate mip-maps for them in TXD-file, but games do not use mip-maps, just display original textures.

What about my question: are mip-maps work in SA-MP?

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#595

Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:54 AM

Why didn't anyone answer my question?

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:45 PM

hi

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:00 PM

QUOTE (Flame1251 @ Sunday, May 26 2013, 10:44)

What about my question: are mip-maps work in SA-MP?

What's the difference ?! as long as the game process the texture you set up, it doesn't count if is mipmaped or not, smudged or half of the image erased. I never seen a game to know of, that separates the video settings from multiplayer and singleplayer.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE (-BLITZ- @ Wednesday, May 29 2013, 17:00)
QUOTE (Flame1251 @ Sunday, May 26 2013, 10:44)

What about my question: are mip-maps work in SA-MP?

What's the difference ?! as long as the game process the texture you set up, it doesn't count if is mipmaped or not, smudged or half of the image erased. I never seen a game to know of, that separates the video settings from multiplayer and singleplayer.

Thank you. Yes, I think so too. But I began to have doubts after HPro's message.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE (Flame1251 @ Wednesday, May 29 2013, 17:34)
QUOTE (-BLITZ- @ Wednesday, May 29 2013, 17:00)
QUOTE (Flame1251 @ Sunday, May 26 2013, 10:44)

What about my question: are mip-maps work in SA-MP?

What's the difference ?! as long as the game process the texture you set up, it doesn't count if is mipmaped or not, smudged or half of the image erased. I never seen a game to know of, that separates the video settings from multiplayer and singleplayer.

Thank you. Yes, I think so too. But I began to have doubts after HPro's message.

No need to have doubts about it.
Don't listen to HPro, since he signed up he mostly caused trouble/spam/confusion confused.gif

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Dumbass-Productions @ Wednesday, May 29 2013, 18:18)
QUOTE (Flame1251 @ Wednesday, May 29 2013, 17:34)
QUOTE (-BLITZ- @ Wednesday, May 29 2013, 17:00)
QUOTE (Flame1251 @ Sunday, May 26 2013, 10:44)

What about my question: are mip-maps work in SA-MP?

What's the difference ?! as long as the game process the texture you set up, it doesn't count if is mipmaped or not, smudged or half of the image erased. I never seen a game to know of, that separates the video settings from multiplayer and singleplayer.

Thank you. Yes, I think so too. But I began to have doubts after HPro's message.

No need to have doubts about it.
Don't listen to HPro, since he signed up he mostly caused trouble/spam/confusion confused.gif

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