|QUOTE (SmC12 @ Saturday, Apr 28 2012, 17:11)|
| Okay this is the last time I'll respond to you, because this has been taken off topic enough. PM me if you still need to argue. |
My response to you was based on the part I quoted from your post, where you talked about "black leaders claiming racism" and "gang warfare" and you displayed a lack of knowledge about the subject, because what you said made no sense. And it was in fact borderline racist, whether you intended it to be or not. If you researched it like you say, then you wouldn't have made a point like that. So I explained the purpose of gangs and how nowadays it is not a large-scale problem like in the past. The original gangsters from gangs like Crips and Bloods are no longer affiliated with them and work to help young criminals turn their lives around. What your post implied is that they still go out on drive-by's on a daily basis because it's cool.
At no point did you mention you were talking about mainstream rappers like Lil' Wayne, you were directing your comments at all blacks who have been involved in crime instead of pointing the finger at certain individuals. You should have made your point more clear. Like you said, they are fake gangsters, they're naive and have misguided views. It's ridiculous to even brand them as gangsters, because the majority of Crip and Blood gangs that still exist are a complete laughing stock compared to the original gangs that actually had a purpose. It's mostly young kids who hear someone talk about gangs - because it's something they lived through and affected their life - and think the rapper is mentioning it because it's a cool thing to do. In some cases rappers do talk about gangs and violence in a positive way, just like fake gangsters who have no clue what their doing, there are fake rappers who also have no clue, in fact many fake gangsters go on to be rappers. That is not a problem specifically with hip-hop, that is modern music in general. It's now big corporations who don't care about the individual, or their background; as long as you can talk tough on a song then you have a deal. I'm not defending them, I hate them as much as you.
Many record label executives don't know anything about gangs and the history of rap, it's all about the money. It's the same for all genres of music. Instead of payning attention to someone like Lil' Wayne, listen to the people who know what they're talking about instead. Don't criticise an entire genre or an entire group of people just because a few of them give it a bad reputation. That's stupid.
SmC12, I sincerely respect you for this.
I'm not racist or even close to be racist. I know I made it seem like that with what I said, but I would have said the same about ANYONE, not just blacks. I would have said that about Hispanics, Asians, and whites, too. I hope you understand that I do respect rappers like Tupac. He was not only an influential rapper, but he was also a great political figure in a sense. I've seen his interviews before, and yes, he seems like a very knowledgeable man who had a great vision for society.
However, he definitely resorted to some ignorance and even hypocrisy for the latter part of his life. Some of the beefs he had with multiple rappers were unnecessary. Did he know for sure whether or not Biggie was responsible for the robbery and shooting or was it just a false accusation? Even though "Hit 'Em Up" was one of the songs Tupac was most known for, it also heightened the tension between West Coast rappers and East Coast rappers. Have you ever thought about how he might not have been killed if he never created that song? Music has a great influence on society, whether we realize it or not. Tupac was a figure of influence whom many people looked up to at the time, and there was a reason for that. He created songs that people could relate to and songs that gave them hope and wisdom. He would have been better off continuing doing that instead of releasing a song with the following at the end:
"All of y'all motherf*ckers, f*ck you, die slow motherf*cker.
My four four make sure all your kids don't grow."
What's that all about? What's that promoting? Killing the CHILDREN of the people you hate? Let's be honest here. As much as we respect Tupac, there's no doubt that he did make some terrible mistakes.
Yes, I do realize that some original Crips and Bloods are no longer affiliated with gangs, and I commend that. I've read about that a lot, and I feel happiness every time I do. It's always great to know people turned their lives around. However, you have to realize that the gang problem still goes on today because of fake gangster wannabes like Lil Wayne. There are rappers who claim gang affiliation, and that continues to promote all this negativity for the kids out there.
I definitely agree with you about how many record label executives don't know the history of gangs and the history of rap. Instead, they encourage the rappers they signed to put on a false gimmick just to have a marketing image. The marketing image is what sells albums because ignorant people continue to fall for it. This is tragic. It's the reason why we continue to hear all this trash that's put out onto the radio for the public to hear. It's really a technique to brainwash people just for money.
I hope you didn't get the wrong impression from me. I'm actually a huge fan of hip hop, especially when it's meaningful and inspirational hip hop.