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Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:39 AM

Hmm... Empire Buildings from VCS in my opinion is "must be" in SOL. We need a serious story, not something like SA where we are working for over9000 "organizations" because want money etc etc.

I don't have idea for story. Maybe something like Max Payne or story from one of movies OR mix them all hehe.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 10:08 AM

Each map section could have its on story somehow related to the next.

I would like to be able to play a police officer in a corrupt police department.

Also the Mob as I liked the ending of GTAIII.

The other sections could have there own character.




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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:45 PM Edited by MADCastro.2010, 07 April 2012 - 02:06 AM.

QUOTE (Ridd1cK @ Thursday, Apr 5 2012, 08:39)
Hmm... Empire Buildings from VCS in my opinion is "must be" in SOL. We need a serious story, not something like SA where we are working for over9000 "organizations" because want money etc etc.

I don't have idea for story. Maybe something like Max Payne or story from one of movies OR mix them all hehe.

I like the "Maybe something like Max Payne" thing, the character could be a man looking for revenge after his family and girlfriend is assassinated.

I've also thought in making the main character from another country, just like IV used, altough i think he should be British...

EDIT: What if we could also have races (similar to Midnight Club) during some missions and as submissions (like in SA) in the mod? Maybe it would be interesting, maybe it wouldn't, i don't know...

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:15 AM

I would like to see something from you.

The Spawning system for starting the game without the player drowning.

This was never fixed.

Also we have moved the coords back to there original position like they was in beta 69.0




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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:03 PM Edited by solom, 08 April 2012 - 09:17 PM.

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Also we have moved the coords back to there original position like they was in beta 69.0

Why? It's because the moving of things like car spawn and etc in .SCM, radar is got much time for that?

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE (solom @ Monday, Apr 9 2012, 08:03)
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Also we have moved the coords back to there original position like they was in beta 69.0

Why? It's because the moving of things like car spawn and etc in .SCM, radar is got much time for that?

Actually one reason was Moving things that are not controlled by the SCM, they were a problem as Swoorup had to somehow find out how to move some impossible objects and it is a waste of his time when he could be working on important hacks.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:27 PM

I'm not sure, but what if we add a girlfriend to the main character?

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:59 AM

I would want the story line to be as dynamic as possible.

We could have more then one person in their own time line for each chapter of the story.

I would like a woman maybe mid 30's and 2 Male characters to interact with? girlfriends etc.

Also being able to play a police officer from the start in a corrupt department. this would be a nice start to the game unlike any other GTA beginning, how this police officer turns to organized crime bosses for help..

Your the writer M8 so lets get this started.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:10 AM

Do you want a poll on here about how we want the story line?

If so, give me 5 questions.


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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:43 AM

QUOTE (X-Seti @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 04:10)
Do you want a poll on here about how we want the story line?

If so, give me 5 questions.

It's good idea to make the story line.
I think about making some profession. For example - to carry goods from the point a to point b. (from LC - > SA)
And you got the something money.
+ need to make the purchase of houses

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:16 AM

Jobs, interesting idea.

The ability to buy property does interest me, we could mark every building in a config file with just the map coords and what type of building.


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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (X-Seti @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 01:10)
Do you want a poll on here about how we want the story line?

If so, give me 5 questions.

Okay, so...

1) Who could be the main character?

2) Does it would be one or more main characters?

3) If there's only one main character, he/she would have a girlfriend/boyfriend?

4) Who are his/their enemies?

5) How it would start?

EDIT: Sorry for taking too much, i am kinda busy with installing all the stuff in my computer again, but i'm starting to write.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:34 PM

Buissness system? Something like empire buildings from vcs will be great!
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Also being able to play a police officer from the start in a corrupt department.

I thought the same. You're playing a good cop, but rest of cops wants to do something wrong with protagonist(maybe kill or kidnap his family) and he want revenge

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:32 AM

I guess in a sense some of the bad cops are paid to look the other way, these guys are either working for the mob or have their families to protect.

Your suspended from the police force being setup your now on a mission to go after mafia bosses

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:09 PM Edited by Ashwin the new boy, 13 April 2012 - 12:31 PM.

@seti
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The Spawning system for starting the game without the player drowning.

it is happening Because none of you are Using the SCM that i have Given.
so, pls use the SCM present in Swimming.7z, if MA crash your Game then Temporally Disable the ASI,
& avoid Water,

if you get my PM
i am feeling Well now, Doc. says Nothing to worry about icon14.gif
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From now i want this topic to be used for Discussion about Sol upcoming features,
so please if anyone Want to Give any suggestion & request that he want to be included in SOL,
please Post it here,
Thank you Very Much,

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#46

Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:18 PM

As SOL also contain the Map of SA, Then it should also Have Features of SA (as much as Possible)

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As you may know That Now i have Something For Mouse,
so i am making the Swimming to Controllable With Mouse

Your Turn lol.gif

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:51 PM

I would like to see the spawn selection finished with vehicles m8, we have the whole map to work with.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:50 PM

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spawn selection finished with vehicles

Ahhhhh! What ?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:02 PM

What I meant was when you pick a location to spawn when you first start the game, you can pick what vehicle you want spawned next to you.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:32 PM

Done. Uploading..........
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Any other Work ? lol.gif

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#51

Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:42 PM

QUOTE (X-Seti @ Saturday, Feb 18 2012, 18:51)
Before we merged we used the gtasol.exe, but we abandoned this for softpatching everything from scratch, new dll and launcher.

Now we sadly split up, I am left using the old gtasol.exe once again, only way we can run the mod until this is replaced.

Maybe you can make a list of soft patches you need? I could take a look at it and maybe write a launcher and a dll for you.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:50 PM Edited by X-Seti, 13 April 2012 - 06:42 PM.

Hello and a big thank you for doing this for us.

I do not have any source code for the patching tool used in SOL originally made by Steve M, Updated by Andy and then around 2009 by Me.

All I have is the defined limits used to patch the exe

So here is the info I have and I do not have my devbox working right now, PSU blow and I do not know the full damage till I can get another PSU later on.

So the limits are:

Map bounds. it would be nice to tweak some of these limits in the config file.
This would also allow other modders to be able to use this in their own mods.

W -22000, E 18000, S 20000, N 20000

Depth -Z 20000
Height +Z 20000
Water 6.0

Game hacks.

Sea Colour = 2a95ac - dde6e8 (Replaces the brown)

Gravity = 100

Game path for gta_vc.dat renamed to gtasol.dat
This saves us hacking KED

IPL Limits.

DYN = 190000 (Dummys - 4byte - Number of dynamic objects instances (IPL lines in the objects.dat)
STC = 190000 (Static Objects defined in how many IPL lines in the IPL files)
DRW = 300 (Draw Solid Distance)
PTH = 2 bytes needs to be increased to 4 bytes index


Map Limits.

IDE = 32768 (IDE Objects - Multiple Instance 280bytes)

Maximum number of object definitons.
Each IDE object definition occupies 68bytes of memory space. The Required memory, to the next multiple of 4096, is automatically added to the end of the executable.

ID = 32727 (Static Memory Allocation)
TXD = 32700 (Max TXD loaded, Engine assigned ID numbes to them just above the ID map objects)
2dfx = 100000 (2DFX effects declared in the IDE file)
TObj = 32768 (Timed Objects)

Streaming Memory = 1024 (Max 2024Mb)
Threads = 1

PTR = 500000 (Ptrnode - TXD bitmap allocation)
ENT = 320000 (EntryInfoNode - Number of lines in the IPL file.)
COL = 32000 (Max collisions Models)
OBJ = 90000 (TXD Files)
ZON = 200 (Zon File Entries)
Vehi = 110 (Vehicles)
Peds = 140 (Peds) Needs to be hacked, Maybe like MVL
Weap = 64 (Weapon models) Hacked like MVL
AUD = 192 (Audio Script objects)

I like MVL a lot but here is an idea, have your own vehicle horns ?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:20 PM

I've gone into your folder on the ftp and copied the folders mss, data into the mod and I find myself in a chopper?

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#54

Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:30 AM

"Ashwani" & "Ashwin"
Why there are Two Folder of me ?
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DB>...>Ashwin>
download it from there
& now When you will start the game,
you will see a Vehicle IDE at right Side
press Left & right to Change it & Press "Action" Tab to Spawn that Model
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:27 AM

i was trying to Make Mouse Control Swim,
but i forget that i can't read or Write Memory Add,
we are not using Cleo.asi
so, i have stop working on Swim,
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today i my Holiday & i am getting bore
please someone Suggest something before i open my Games Folder lol.gif

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:09 AM

Have you started to Drive around SOL to plan out some Races?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:12 AM Edited by Ashwin the new boy, 14 April 2012 - 06:15 AM.

Yeah i have Plan some Race & not only Sprint or Circuit,
Also eliminate, Highway Battle & Outrun
but i'll start Work on them after Having Many Racing Vehicles,
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What about F1 Race ?

ohh Shi*t! i forget that i have to Give some Vehicles today,

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:12 AM

F1 Race would be nice, And as the USA are getting too F1 races soon it'll be nice to have an F1 track in SOL bases around them 2 tracks. With the first track having a race this year maybe we can all get an idea on what the track will be like.

Also I'd like the idea of many different race modes, the races modes in GTA have always been quiet boring once you had done them a few times. Outrun was always one of my favorites from Need for Speed Undercover with Eliminate being race mode as well.

Anyway I have a version of the solhacks flt which has debugging text and shows the co-ordinates so if the spawn script hasn't been finished yet maybe I could give that a go and get a few spawns going. And what about moving the spawns to the airports or a any of the train stations to make it feel as if you have just arrived in that city.

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#59

Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE (Ashwin the new boy @ Saturday, Apr 14 2012, 17:12)
Yeah i have Plan some Race & not only Sprint or Circuit,
Also eliminate, Highway Battle & Outrun
but i'll start Work on them after Having Many Racing Vehicles,
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What about F1 Race ?

ohh Shi*t! i forget that i have to Give some Vehicles today,

Dont wait for the Vehicles just make the Races, and use the Infernus, Cheetah, etc. for now and you can change it later, otherwise people might thing you are all talk, and I know you are not.

Also how about Drag Races, would they work in SOL?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

Drag races, maybe in them tunnels, or across that bridge going from Mainland Liberty to Liberty City




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