Gigabyte GA-M52L-S3 + HD 6770
Posted 18 March 2012 - 11:09 PM
So, I have some questions for you:
- Should I update my BIOS and how?
- Should I buy a new video card and if so, please, help me with my choice.
- Should I do anything else and what?
Thank you in advance.
P.S. And yup, I'm not "that into" the hardware part, so try to sound less techician.
Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:47 AM Edited by Slamman, 19 March 2012 - 02:07 AM.
It's again a question of vendor's support and options they CHOSE for their boards, and not all are committed to using the same all the time, so you have to investigate as you shop. In most cases I believe you can run either or, but make sure the drivers are properly installed. In my case, I swap out what I have a lot, so try using CCleaner to purge old drivers before you install new ones. Since I'm not too fussy, I install drivers repeatedly on top of old, or use Control panel to remove them. It depends if one method still is giving you issues
The best policy is start with a clean install, no previous drivers, some overlap though as we'd discussed with audio, a driver specific to the chip will have it's own GUI, a driver specific to your Wireless can trade off capability with Windows. Video drivers are more divorced.
Here's a spec link on your board, should help those choosing to virtually outfit it for you
My AMD socket 939 is an nForce 4, that means the Nvidia chip at the heart of the mobo takes the place of the normal North and South Bridge chips
NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430晶片組
The brand new NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 MCP (Media and Communications Processor) features CineFX™ 3.0 Engine. This unique combination of MCP creates a single motherboard featuring a world-class DX9, Shader Model 3.0 GPU for faster and smoother game-play, a high quality video processing engine for advance quality of video and DVD playback.
nVidia GPU is what's onboard, my ECS board is dated around the same time, using onboard nvidia GeForce 7100 graphics and a DVI port on the board itself. It's Intel, and your board is a step up from my AMD64 939 socket, using AM2 means it's memory controller was revised to allow DDR2 RAM, mine uses the prior DDR400 speed
Anywho, you can or should be able to use both brands of card, I tested my HD5450 in Asus's PCIex16 slots, dating to 2005, there's no result, no booting, that's because the card demands more power it seems, and there's no PSU support to these cards to supplement the slot
There's also a problem because the board is dated, it's PCIexpress version 1 (2 and 3 now exist, basically...with version 4 on the way!)
Hopefully not too much TECH wording for you, I hope I'm relaying in layman terms enough, I try
Notice this Q and A here, I did a Google search ^ Another guy asked about a swap he got on a service call with that same board, for a G31 Gigabyte. I have a G33 board as I recall, my MSI. mATX, so he complained that he got jipped for a board with fewer slots, HOWEVER, if you're giving up PCI standard peripheral slots for ATX down to mATX, there's no cause for concern, really
Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:23 AM
I just want to clear that to my mind: is there any video card that is compatible to my motherboard and has vram of 1GB. And also, my BIOS drivers are the only one that aren't updated, just because I don't know how to update them and as I read somewhere - it wasn't necessary. But I guess now it is.
Again, thank you very much for you answer and your effort.
Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:44 AM
I think your problem lies in your PSU. What's the brand and wattage of your PSU?
Posted 19 March 2012 - 02:57 PM
FSP GROUP INC.
MODEL: ATX-350PNR, 350W.
I asked in one another forum also and they asked me the same, I answered them and it looks like that 350W is enough for this video card.
Posted 19 March 2012 - 04:40 PM Edited by Slamman, 19 March 2012 - 04:44 PM.
I bought two of the Palit 8600s thanks to eBay, they match spec perfectly for a SLi platform.
The PSU is not a real problem if your card is not supported with it's own input jack for power, but the HD 5450 is proven not to work in older PCIe boards, I can attest as much, the highest power supply I have is about 430 watts, none of which supply power to a GPU card, and I rather not have a power issue, but it is something to know before you plunk your cash for a PSU and GPU upgrade, considering what will be supported on your mobo
Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:19 PM
You didn't say exactly which 6770 you have. What maker that is.
I looked at XFX's 6770 and they say it needs a 500W PSU. SAPPHIRE, the leading maker of ATI/AMD cards, requires 600W. Gigabyte makes 4 different ones and all says 450W. HIS also says 450W.
That was one hell of a long drawn out answer, which answered nothing. And your first suggestion of starting of starting with a clean install. Really? He has to get past the bootup before worrying about the OS and drivers first. And it doesn't matter what chipset he's using, what mobo you have or chipset it uses, or what the spokesman for anything says. Simple straight answer to a simple question. Not a history lesson.
Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:15 PM
I guess that's all you asked for. So, I guess PSU with wattage more than or equal to 500W is everything I need?
Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:38 PM
Posted 20 March 2012 - 02:21 AM
That's what I'm relating is testing I've done with any PCIe board I get, my first one was the AMD64 I mentioned, an Ebay deal, it was not even known to boot or POST
That was one hell of a long drawn out answer, which answered nothing. And your first suggestion of starting of starting with a clean install. Really? He has to get past the bootup before worrying about the OS and drivers first. And it doesn't matter what chipset he's using, what mobo you have or chipset it uses, or what the spokesman for anything says. Simple straight answer to a simple question. Not a history lesson
Any history is beneficial for a novice to get a better idea
The CLEAN OS install is for managing the memory better, It's my feeling that the upgrades to XP at it's max RAM threshold will give better results if installed that method, use a fresh, large capacity HDD and clone the old one as a backup
Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:16 PM
You can't do a clean install of an OS if the hardware doesn't want to start to begin with, or in this case has problems starting.
Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:24 PM
The point I am making is in regards to memory issues, not the booting process
Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:59 PM
He said he got a new video card and the system had problems booting. He thought maybe the card might be bad or maybe even the mobo or maybe need to update the BIOS. We later find out that he has a 350W PSU. The video card seems to need at least 500W from what little can be found. Thus the problem is the PSU
I believe you got your answer and are satisfied with that.
I'm going to lock this before Slamman decides to continue to derail this any more useless babble.
If you would like to have this topic reopened for any reason please feel free to PM me.
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