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Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:00 AM
And for all of you who never heard of Cougar before, take a look HERE
Virgo & Cougar:
Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:53 AM
Posted 25 February 2012 - 03:12 PM
|QUOTE (ALMOST610 @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 03:53)|
|I dont think it was a forgotten Car, it just looks like a Beta Version of the Virgo, also I dont think those wheels on it are stock.|
Load up your Vice IMG archive (or a COLL model database) & look for the Cougar... You'll find only the model & collision, no textures. But since the Cougar is using Virgo's textures, you can just use the stock Virgo TXD
Some ppl claim that the Cougar was supposed to be a "special" version of the Virgo, but got deleted, left out in the final version of the game. The rest of ppl claim that it was a beta Virgo, but that doesn't explain the fact that the Cougar remained within the archives.
And yes, you're right... Those wheels are a modification, but as we all know, wheels are NOT part of any III/Vice vehicles. In other words, I'm using these wheels for my own enjoyment, they're not part of this car
Every GTA game had at least one forgotten vehicle... I remember GTA3, it had a car called "PANTO". Unfortunately, it didn't make it in the final version, just like that character "Novy"
Edited by SomeGuy86, 25 February 2012 - 03:27 PM.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:11 PM
I would think that it is the Beta Model of the car, some of the cars in the game did undergo just small changes like that one did to become the Virgo. I would think of it as the Forgotten Car, as in they Forgot to remove its files.
A GTAIII Car I would like to have is the Brigham, I would rather that than the Panto.
Even just some minor changes such as this were made to the Vehicles.
Have a look at the Taxi & Police, they both have the Badge on the front of them like the Taxi & Police had in GTAIII.
Have a look at this site here, they have a collection of Beta Pictures & some Beta Recreations.
I was also surprised to see that one of my Mods, the Cut VC Stretch was on there, and they thought that was from the Beta or something like that.
Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:11 AM
Anyway, let me ask you a question... here's the deal, ppl claim (including yourself) that the "Cougar" is only a beta model of "Virgo". "Beta" assumes that the Cougar came BEFORE the Virgo, so that the Virgo got developed later, right? Anyway, here's a catch... Like I said earlier, on one of my previous posts, the "Cougar" is mapped with Virgo's textures. No need to replace anything, not even to rename any of texture IDs, everything's completely similar to the Virgo! Therefore, if the Cougar really did came before the Virgo, that would be impossible...
Obviously, Virgo already existed at the point when Cougar got developed, and for some reason got included in the game archive. Who knows, maybe the Cougar was supposed to be some kind of a experimental project, to include more cars that share the same textures? Come to think of it, reminds me of the Corpse Manana & ordinary one from GTA3...
IDK, you decide. But somehow I doubt that the Cougar was a beta model. Not only because of the Virgo's textures, but also because of the name itself... Why giving 2 different names to the same car? But it all comes to what I said above, even if the Cougar really was some kind of a beta leftover, that doesn't explain why would they name the car that way, if they already assigned Virgo's textures, which means the Rockstar already came up with the name Virgo.
My guess would be that the Cougar was supposed to be a special version of Virgo, used for a mission. They probably took out that mission in the final version and so there was no longer need for the car. Which would also be the case in GTA3, if they decided to take out "Dead Skunk in the Trunk", there wouldn't be any purpose for the corpse Manana
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