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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:47 PM

So my mom's computer self destructed yesterday (apparently from what my mom tells me, she heard a loud pop, then saw smoke and flames coming from inside). The system was a Pentium 4 if I recall correctly and was nearly 10 years old. Needless to say, she's due for a replacement now. She only really uses the computer for the internet and word processing. She doesn't have a lot of money to spend, so I'd say the budget would be around $500-$600 max. Pretty much need new everything. I don't think there's anything from the old computer that could be saved (maybe the case, not sure though). If someone could possibly put something together for me to work with, it would be appreciated.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:51 PM

Just a heads up - I had the same thing happen to an old Pentium 4 system. Replaced the PSU and all was good.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (leik oh em jeez! @ Friday, Feb 24 2012, 18:51)
Just a heads up - I had the same thing happen to an old Pentium 4 system. Replaced the PSU and all was good.

Yeah, I haven't actually seen the computer myself, so I don't quite know what the problem is. I was thinking it was the PSU, but until I can get home and toss my spare PSU in and try it, she's out of luck. Even if it does work, I think she's considering getting a new PC anyway since this one is so old.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:07 PM

What about a premade laptop?

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:51 PM Edited by FireDragon, 25 February 2012 - 12:02 AM.

Here's a link from newegg.com, with some desktop around your price range, many of them come with free shipping Link (in Canadian dollars)

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:55 PM Edited by YankeesPwnMets, 25 February 2012 - 05:55 PM.

$29.99 Rosewill FBM-01 Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16811147123

$69.99 Intel Pentium G620 Sandy Bridge 2.6GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16819116399

$86.99 MSI H67MS-E43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16813130584

$49.99 CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817139026

$22.99 Kingston Value 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16820139659

$79.99 Seagate Barracuda ST320DM000 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16822148766

$114.99 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16832116986

=$454.93

*Optional: If she needs a DVD burner as well, heres one for $20
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16827106378

*edit 2: If you really want to go low end, here is a single core Sandy Bridge Celeron for about $30 less
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16819116410

I tried to find as many low end parts from reputable companies (just in case something goes wrong again) and a Sandy Bridge Pentium, Intel HD Graphics and 4GB of RAM for $460 is a pretty decent low end work PC. I assumed that based off of the flag on your profile, you and your mom are Canadian so I used the newegg Canada site. If you have a copy of Windows 7, you can save $115 and the build will only be $400

@liek: You have computer knowledge, so you can do that. However, if I were you, I would not want my mom to touch a computer that caught fire before, especially if she is alone.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:53 AM

QUOTE (YankeesPwnMets @ Friday, Feb 24 2012, 18:55)
@liek: You have computer knowledge, so you can do that. However, if I were you, I would not want my mom to touch a computer that caught fire before, especially if she is alone.

Well since Ryan was talking about putting a build together, I'm assuming either he was going to do it himself, or have someone who knows what they're doing build the system. If he were leaving it to his Mom, and if she can't install a new power supply, then she probably can't build a desktop from scratch either.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:21 AM

QUOTE (leik oh em jeez! @ Friday, Feb 24 2012, 20:53)
QUOTE (YankeesPwnMets @ Friday, Feb 24 2012, 18:55)
@liek: You have computer knowledge, so you can do that. However, if I were you, I would not want my mom to touch a computer that caught fire before, especially if she is alone.

Well since Ryan was talking about putting a build together, I'm assuming either he was going to do it himself, or have someone who knows what they're doing build the system. If he were leaving it to his Mom, and if she can't install a new power supply, then she probably can't build a desktop from scratch either.

I was under the assumption that Ryan would just go to his Moms place, build the new system and then leave it there for his mom.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 02:59 AM

2005 on up is good enuff for any moms out there, just try a good PSU first, that might be the only bad component

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:35 AM

Personally I would just look for a pre-build system for her. She doesn't need anything with a real graphics card it or a lot of RAM or a massive PSU. Most pre-build systems will have a 300-350W PSU which even then is more than enough.
The advantage to the pre-build is that the HDD is usually partitioned to use for factory restore. They also usually include some software that you can use to create a personal restore/recovery backup. They might also come with pre-installed software that will run on a schedule to help update and clean up the system.
There are all sorts of actual advantages to a pre-build, for the average mom and pop and grandma/pa type user.

Depending on how she uses the system a laptop would be a good choice as well. She won't have to be tied down to a desk or whatever her current system is.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:44 AM

I tried to convince her to get a laptop, but she doesn't want one and is insistent upon a desktop. I figured building it myself for her would have been cheaper than a pre-built, but I guess at this low level there isn't much difference. confused.gif

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:28 PM

I know you don't have BestBuy in Canada, I just forget what the name of the sister up there is.
At BestBuy they have an ASUS Essentio CM1730-01 desktop + 20" LCD monitor for $500USD and with what all you get with that as far as system specs, that's not too bad.
But at the same time they have a bunch of $300 systems that from the sound of it would be more than what she needs, I mean you said she only needs it for internet and Office. They also have some mini PC for around $200 but there is no HDD and thus no OS included, which is about another $200 for both of those.

Now I'm not saying to go to BestBuy or whatever the equivalent is up there, but stores like would be a good place to start looking.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 12:28)
Now I'm not saying to go to BestBuy or whatever the equivalent is up there, but stores like would be a good place to start looking.

Actually we do have Best Buy here tounge.gif

I'll have a look around though and see what I can find. Thanks.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:42 PM

QUOTE (Ryan @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 13:38)
QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 12:28)
Now I'm not saying to go to BestBuy or whatever the equivalent is up there, but stores like would be a good place to start looking.

Actually we do have Best Buy here tounge.gif

I'll have a look around though and see what I can find. Thanks.

Well, the system above is only $454 and only around $420 if you decide to go for the single core SB Celeron option

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (Ryan @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 11:38)
QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 12:28)
Now I'm not saying to go to BestBuy or whatever the equivalent is up there, but stores like would be a good place to start looking.

Actually we do have Best Buy here tounge.gif

I'll have a look around though and see what I can find. Thanks.

I thought in Canada it was called something else


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 13:48)
QUOTE (Ryan @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 11:38)
QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 12:28)
Now I'm not saying to go to BestBuy or whatever the equivalent is up there, but stores like would be a good place to start looking.

Actually we do have Best Buy here tounge.gif

I'll have a look around though and see what I can find. Thanks.

I thought in Canada it was called something else


*DINK!* (that's the bell that just hit me upside the head) FutureShop

Future Shop's are more common, but we do have Best Buy's here as well.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:21 AM

QUOTE (YankeesPwnMets @ Sunday, Feb 26 2012, 04:42)
QUOTE (Ryan @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 13:38)
QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 12:28)
Now I'm not saying to go to BestBuy or whatever the equivalent is up there, but stores like would be a good place to start looking.

Actually we do have Best Buy here tounge.gif

I'll have a look around though and see what I can find. Thanks.

Well, the system above is only $454 and only around $420 if you decide to go for the single core SB Celeron option

You are right, it is a little cheaper, but it could save Ryan a fair bit of time (Installing OS and building the PC) and in your build i didn't see a monitor, so that bumps your build up over $500, and wolf said at BB they have pc with a monitor for $500.

Also the factory default setting could be useful if Ryan's mom were to stuff up the software somehow.

On sidenote, it is weird talking about a strangers mom.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:27 AM

Well I dunno if it's any use but I managed to shove together this system for well inside your budget and it's much higher spec than the original suggestion (no idsrespect)

Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z $47.99
COOLMAX V-500 500W $27.99
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner $15.99
Western Digital WD5000AUDX 500GB 32MB Cache $89.99
GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 $53.99
Intel Core i3-2120T Sandy Bridge 2.6GHz 35W $134.99
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1333 $22.99

Total $393.93 + Shipping

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:47 AM

What site did this come from?

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:22 AM

QUOTE (YankeesPwnMets @ Sunday, Feb 26 2012, 04:47)
What site did this come from?

That was Newegg, it's USD I think so I'm not sure what that is in Canadian currency.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:25 AM

@Lori
That's why Yankee used the Newegg.ca site

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Sunday, Feb 26 2012, 05:25)
@Lori
That's why Yankee used the Newegg.ca site

Ah right, well provided they have the same parts the exchange rate is pretty much identical smile.gif

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:34 PM

Yep, but unfortunately hardware is a bit more expensive in Canada then it is here in the US

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:07 PM

Here's what I came up with

AMD A6 3500 $84.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16819103951
Asus F1A55-M LX PLUS $69.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16813131813
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $20.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16820226094
Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB $89.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16822152181
Samsung DVD writer $ 16.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16827151233
Antec VP-450 $48.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817371045
COOLER MASTER Elite 311 $41.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16811119247
sub total: $373.93
Add Win7 Home Premium 64bit $114.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16832116986
Sub total: $488.92



Add Win7 Home Premium 64bit and bump the ram up to 8GB
Win7 HP X64 $114.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16832116986
Mushkin 8GB (2x4GB) $38.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16820226095
sub total: $506.92

Intel build:
Take all components from AMD build along with OS and 4GB of ram. Replace AMD processor+motherboard with Intel CPU+motherboard
Intel Core i3 2100 $129.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16819115078
ASUS P8H61-M LX PLUS $79.99
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16813131793
sub total: $543.92

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:13 PM

Well, I used a Sandy Bridge Pentium instead of an i3, replace that with a SB Celeron and its 100 less. I didn't really see the point of an i3 since it would be used only for web browsing, and I found the Pentium for around $60 less

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:40 PM

Exactly, I can't see why there would be an i3 necessary, let alone A6 with its extremely powerful graphics (as far as IGPs go). wink.gif

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 12:35 AM Edited by Slamman, 27 February 2012 - 12:39 AM.

The i3, i5, and i7 are Sandy Bridge if they are SECOND GENERATION (socket 1155, and associated laptop sockets, Mobile variations. 1156 is not Sandy Bridge, like Core2. Before hand was Pentium D, and Core Duo
Intel is supposedly retiring the Pentium name, however, I'm a fan of it, so I think they should keep using Pentium, even though it's just a power, familiar name, really

Celeron continues it's namesake in very limited number, even a dual core as I recall, mostly the Celeron gives up cache (historically speaking), and some internal features of the Pentium

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:34 PM Edited by Stinky12, 27 February 2012 - 11:40 PM.

Most people who say, they use a computer only for web browsing is either
1. They don't want to spend too much
2. They're not telling us the whole list, afraid the cost of the new computer will exceed their limit.
For $500-600, it's best to get the fastest parts withing the budget, so the person who is using it thinks they're money is well spent.
Get them cheap parts (only for web browsing) and when they run some app that requires better specs. They'll feel ripped off since most of them will think 'hey I just spend nearly $600 on a brand new computer, why is it running like crap.'

If OP's ma really is just going to use the new computer only for web browsing, then Celeron and Pentium are fine.
For better overall performance grab a Core i3 and the AMD APU for better onboard graphics.

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:46 AM

You can buy a used computer like I did that ONCE cost $600 to $700, but you can get for $100 or less, and yes, my Acer laptop is a clear example, my Dell SX280s are classed uSFF, that's ULTRA SMALL form factor, and it means a very small footprint desktop using 775 socket T CPU Pentium 4s (hyper threading supported, no dual core) and DDR2 as well as GMA950 graphics if I recall, that is a web surfing, email and flash / DV video capable system, using SATA hard drives in a very nice case (since they use screwless entry and removable Dell D module ODD/etc.




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