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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:39 PM

I feel like a jerk having to make a topic about this, but I was wondering if you guy's could make me a pretty sweet rig.

My budget is around 1,500 to 1,700 USD.

I'd like to be able to max out IV with iCEnhancer.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

If you're going to go with older cards, try SLi or CrossFire, otherwise, wait for Ivy Bridge, since it's bound to keep up with iCE as well as new 3D gaming tech, I put my system to task with EfLC the other night, mild default settings and it ran slower then San An on my laptops under P3 and P4 single core systems! It was painful, but I remember better luck with Lost and the Damned then I had the other night with Ballad of Gay Tony.
Didn't you have some rather worthy hardware?
My own 8600GT is not a major nVidia card, but according to Rockstar specs, it's the needed card to play "4", but I can't imagine setting everything to minimum, but it's looking that way at the moment. Because I'm using XP, at the moment, I paired my system with 2GB dual channel DDR2, my Palit card is using GDDR3 spec vRam, since I ran some checks and a Benchmark save via the GTA menu for Graphics
If you own the PC version, try running that and make some setting adjustments, best to start with everything minimum I suppose, then tweak things upward, I'm already finding the settings making minimal improvements (from High and Medium, ran it at 720p and 1080p/i as well, looked good, ran slower then a snail! Color me puzzled

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:54 PM

What do you exactly need? Just a central unit?

If so:

$324,99 Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115070

$609,99 GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125413

$149,99 ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157265

$124,99 Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148840

$44,99 Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148544

$169,00 KINGWIN LZP-650 650W
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817121092

$18,99 LG ELECTRONICS GH22NS90B
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827136240

$109,99 Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium Grey w/ USB 3.0
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811352014

$104,99 Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148441

$89,99 Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm UFB (Updraft Floating Balance) CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835709001

= $1 747,91

One of the fastest CPus on the market, best single core GPU with good cooling system, great motherboard, fast 1TB harddrive, 8Gbs of RAM, top notch power supply, DVD burner, factory silenced computer case, a SSD drive and a very good CPU cooler (which can be changes to cheaper one, if you can't afford those $50 more).

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:21 PM

That's one fine machine by yojo but you could save $104 if you opt out on the SSD. Personally I have no problems with loading times or any ingame issues with my 500GB SATA III 7200rpm HDD.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:25 PM

The newer boards I bought, all on a $50 or less budget are miniATX with only one PCIe slot, but the two RAM slots will support 4GB a slot, so you can still get 8GBs running on them, even my DDR3 board is outfitted with 4GB for a song, since DDR3 is dirt cheap, it's the most enticing thing about a new setup

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:30 PM

You want something what's future proof though so maybe a PCI-E 3 motherboard.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 10:00 PM

It's best to wait for that Intel "TOCK" movement, though Ivy Bridge is classified as one of their "TICK" advances, despite doubts about the shared GPU with that CPU, I think it should blow all previous Intel attempts out of the water, since MaxPC is not kind to integrated tech of any sort! They are always advocating board add ons of any type, as long as the chipset is lacking, things like USB 3.0, or SATA improvements being made lately

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 12:29 AM

Thank you, Yojo! Just one more question.

What's the probability of me messing something up, though?

The farthest I've gone with something like this is taking apart my Slim... tounge.gif

Thank's for the rig, man.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 01:53 AM

Slim console? you manage to get it back together? Put screws out in the same virtual location as where they reside to re-assemble, That's how I do things, There's no making of labels, but I'm familiar enough that diff size screws I can discern in a tray FULL of screws based on size, head, thread, etc. The thread and size of a screws' shaft is most important to getting something mated back together, they don't even have to be exact in reality

As far as PC building, down to putting in the mobo and rewiring, perhaps easier then doing a console or laptop repair. I love digging into laptops though! haha

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 04:45 AM

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Are you in the USA and that is where you'll be buying this parts? If so fine but if not then we need to know where you are and possibly some links to some local online computer parts store(s) to get you a better list, also how much you plan to spend in your currency.

As for the build itself. It's pretty straight forward these days, the motherboard manual helps to some degree.

The only issues I have with yojo's list: PSU is a brand that I'm personally have not heard of so I would research it; The case, find one you like, research it, and pick that if you like the one he picked then for it but a case is a personal thing to me; the SSD seems kind of weak, I would go with a OCZ Vertex 3 or something from Intel

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 08:07 AM Edited by yojo2, 29 January 2012 - 01:01 PM.

As for the Kingwin - it's a PSU from SuperFlower. It might not be widely known, but its recent power supplies are just excellent. Kingwin Lazer Gold is based on SuperFlower Golden King, which in turn is a slightly improved SuperFlower Golden Green, found is some other PSUs (like NZXT Hale90). Overall in terms of build quality and such, it's comparable with PSUs like Corsair AX for example. wink.gif

http://www.jonnyguru...=Story&reid=219 - Lazer Platinum 550W review on jonnyGURU. smile.gif

Another good option would be Rosewill Capstone - cheap, yet very good (based on SF Golden Green platform). Newegg sells them for astonishingly low prices. They aren't modular though.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182071

@illegal_luggage: ASRock Gen3 mobos have PCIe 3.0. wink.gif Though, Sandy Bridge CPUs don't support PCIe 3.0 anyway.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 02:19 PM

True but IvyBridge will and most SandyBridge mobos will only need a BIOS update to support IvyBridge.

Rosewill is Newegg's house brand. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but then I'm also not going to say it's a good thing either.
I still personally like Antec and OZC for PSUs. OCZ isn't going to be making anything other than SSDs from now though. ThermalTake is still good as well. And I can't remember if it's SeaSonic or Silverstone that is also suppose to be very good....I'm leaning more towards Silverstone

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE (Wolf68k @ Sunday, Jan 29 2012, 15:19)
OCZ isn't going to be making anything other than SSDs from now though.

PC Power and Cooling are still making PSUs for OCZ, but they're expensive and quality has apparently taken a dip in recent years.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 04:13 PM

@Wolf68k: you most probably meant Seasonic. Half of Corsair's lineup is made by Seasonic wink.gif (the other half is from CWT, with exception of AX1200 by Flextronics). Silverstone is okay though
Anyway, it's not like only well-known brands can make good PSUs - prime example is Great Wall, who is producing excellent OCZ ZX and decent OCZ ZT units.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 06:32 PM Edited by Stinky12, 29 January 2012 - 06:34 PM.

I went with a different approach, a alternative setup. smile.gif

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K.....$229.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115072
M/B: Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3.....$204.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131790
RAM: Patriot 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600.....$38.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820220570
SSD: Samsung 830 128GB.....$199.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147134
HDD: Western Digital Black 1TB.....$159.99 ($30 off w/promo code EMCNJHD38, ends 2/1 )
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136284
ODD: Asus Blu-Ray writer.....$79.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135252
GPU: EVGA GTX 580 3GB.....$529.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130655
PSU: Antec EarthWatts 750.....$84.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817371051
HSF: Cooler Master 212 EVO.....$34.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103099
Free gift: Kaybles HDMI M/M 10FT (with purchase of CM 212 EVO HSF)
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812576011
CASE: Corsair Carbide 300R.....$84.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811139011

All this for $1,648.90*
$1,618.90* with HDD promo code
*shipping and taxes not included

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 07:55 PM Edited by finn4life, 29 January 2012 - 07:58 PM.

QUOTE (Stinky12 @ Monday, Jan 30 2012, 05:32)
I went with a different approach, a alternative setup. smile.gif

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K.....$229.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115072
M/B: Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3.....$204.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131790
RAM: Patriot 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600.....$38.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820220570
SSD: Samsung 830 128GB.....$199.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147134
HDD: Western Digital Black 1TB.....$159.99  ($30 off w/promo code EMCNJHD38, ends 2/1 )
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136284
ODD: Asus Blu-Ray writer.....$79.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135252
GPU: EVGA GTX 580 3GB.....$529.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130655
PSU: Antec EarthWatts 750.....$84.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817371051
HSF: Cooler Master 212 EVO.....$34.99 
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103099
Free gift: Kaybles HDMI M/M 10FT (with purchase of CM 212 EVO HSF)
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812576011
CASE: Corsair Carbide 300R.....$84.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811139011

All this for $1,648.90*
$1,618.90* with HDD promo code
*shipping and taxes not included

I would swap the HDD with the one Yoyo suggested, it's $25 cheaper after the promo which ends in 3 days, the WD's price isn't justified, the main difference with yours being you used a weaker CPU and GPU but a more expensive SSD (which has faster write and more storage) is this correct?

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 09:09 PM Edited by Stinky12, 29 January 2012 - 09:15 PM.

I won't say the Core i5 is a weak CPU, it's just a quad without HT and for games the i5 2500K is pretty close to the i7 2600K.
HD7970 is the best AMD GPU currently on the market, imo, spending $600 is insane. If they came out with a HD7950, I'll pick
that in a heartbeat, but they're not out yet.
Seagate has reduced it's warranty from 3 years down to 2 (some even down to just 1 year), thus the reason I picked WD Black as they still retain their 5 year warranty.
WD Blue and Green also went down from 3 years to 2 years.
By saving on the CPU and GPU, there is enough to grab a larger size SSD as the main drive. Purpose of that is to install the OS and other essential programs.
Difference between Crucial M4 and Samsung 830 isn't that much, with a few bucks more I'll go with the Samsung
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148533
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147134

There is a Samsung 830 128GB for $175, but it's a OEM and R/W are reduced by half
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147161

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 09:59 PM

i5 for the newer gen chipset is an improvement, I went with the i3 for the original iteration due to cost, and oddly, I was back at MicroCenter scouring their CPUs, they do mark them down from what the boxes actually say for the price, which is a GOOD THING considering, however, they still actually stock a row or two of 1156 CPU options, and of course, Sandy Bridge is your 1155 in common place now, however, if you were buying parts for the 1156 boards, the prices are still substantial!

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:22 AM

QUOTE (Stinky12 @ Monday, Jan 30 2012, 08:09)
I won't say the Core i5 is a weak CPU, it's just a quad without HT and for games the i5 2500K is pretty close to the i7 2600K.
HD7970 is the best AMD GPU currently on the market, imo, spending $600 is insane. If they came out with a HD7950, I'll pick
that in a heartbeat, but they're not out yet.
Seagate has reduced it's warranty from 3 years down to 2 (some even down to just 1 year), thus the reason I picked WD Black as they still retain their 5 year warranty.
WD Blue and Green also went down from 3 years to 2 years.
By saving on the CPU and GPU, there is enough to grab a larger size SSD as the main drive. Purpose of that is to install the OS and other essential programs.
Difference between Crucial M4 and Samsung 830 isn't that much, with a few bucks more I'll go with the Samsung
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148533
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147134

There is a Samsung 830 128GB for $175, but it's a OEM and R/W are reduced by half
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147161

Good points actually, you are right the i7 probably is not necessary for gaming, i was in a hurry so i didn't quite make a proper point.
Looking at the benchmarks though the 7970 consistently performs 10 fps higher max framerates, at higher resolutions it performs even higher, and the GTX 580 is $80 cheaper, the SSD is a good idea though, having it as a boot drive and leaving plenty of room for games is a great idea actually, but you will still only be able to install the more favourite games to it.

I guess it's up to the OP if he wants the warranty at a price, and if he want so save $80 and get a card that is a little weaker, or spend 80 more and get the better card.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:12 AM

Over Clocking is not necessary for gaming, even MORE important to note!

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:14 PM Edited by Stinky12, 30 January 2012 - 11:27 PM.

QUOTE (finn4life @ Monday, Jan 30 2012, 05:22)
QUOTE (Stinky12 @ Monday, Jan 30 2012, 08:09)
I won't say the Core i5 is a weak CPU, it's just a quad without HT and for games the i5 2500K is pretty close to the i7 2600K.
HD7970 is the best AMD GPU currently on the market, imo, spending $600 is insane. If they came out with a HD7950, I'll pick
that in a heartbeat, but they're not out yet.
Seagate has reduced it's warranty from 3 years down to 2 (some even down to just 1 year), thus the reason I picked WD Black as they still retain their 5 year warranty.
WD Blue and Green also went down from 3 years to 2 years.
By saving on the CPU and GPU, there is enough to grab a larger size SSD as the main drive. Purpose of that is to install the OS and other essential programs.
Difference between Crucial M4 and Samsung 830 isn't that much, with a few bucks more I'll go with the Samsung
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148533
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147134

There is a Samsung 830 128GB for $175, but it's a OEM and R/W are reduced by half
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147161

Good points actually, you are right the i7 probably is not necessary for gaming, i was in a hurry so i didn't quite make a proper point.
Looking at the benchmarks though the 7970 consistently performs 10 fps higher max framerates, at higher resolutions it performs even higher, and the GTX 580 is $80 cheaper, the SSD is a good idea though, having it as a boot drive and leaving plenty of room for games is a great idea actually, but you will still only be able to install the more favourite games to it.

I guess it's up to the OP if he wants the warranty at a price, and if he want so save $80 and get a card that is a little weaker, or spend 80 more and get the better card.

The GTX580 in that list has 3GB of VRAM, standard model with 1.5GB is $499
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130587
note: EVGA $500ish GTX580 1.5GB is factory OCed, 3GB version runs at stock clocks.
Also in the list is a Blu-Ray writer, that itself is $80 bucks
He can remove the Blu-ray and add a DVD writer and a HD7970 from Yojo's list or
mix it up to get the best setup for his price range.

BTW, Intel has released some new CPUs including the Core i5 2550K
And we have the first look at a reference MSI mobo based on Intel 7 series chipset used for Ivy Bridge
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:09 AM

I got my second 8600GT Palit card, lacking the SLi connector, can I order any one off-line that would allow bridging a space between card slots, as some PCIe x16 are spaced together, but not all

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:56 PM

AMD just released HD7950 card, IMHO it's a better option that GTX580 3GB in that price range. Similar performance, better overclocking capabilities, far lower power consumption. wink.gif

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:52 PM

That Ivy Bridge MSI, looks like either compressed image, or the new 2011 is pretty LEAN and mean! ^




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