|QUOTE (Tuff Luv Capo @ Tuesday, Dec 13 2011, 17:52)|
So because people buy them for different reasons, they don't compete? You're missing the point entirely. If this car were an STI/EVO/Z competitor then instead of a four door or two seater to choose from, they'd have another coupe in the mix.
Also, because I'm confused by your logic, if an STI pulls up behind an M3 on a straightaway and fails to overtake, does he then after the race tell the M3 driver that he bought his car for different reasons therefore they were never competing?
BTW this doesn't just happen in video games, car manufacturers don't design their cars to beat final bosses in need for speed.
That is a cute analogy but you are forgetting something major here. I am not comparing cars based on raw performance numbers. That is great when you are looking at a used car market 5 years post production but this is the real world of new cars and your average buyers who are purchasing the cars off of the lot. Those buyers are the ones that count. A M3 buyer is buying an M3 because he wants a luxury sports coupe/sedan. A person doing so is not thinking, "Well, if I don't get the M3 I am gonna get an STI instead." because of the performance figures. He is going to look to Audi, Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti, or Acura. Here in the real world, the vast majority of people buy based on more things than performance figures.
If buyers limited their selection to basic performance figures we could compare an E63 AMG to some random f*ckers 5 year old super-tuned EVO or STI then talk sh*t on the E63 owner for spending 3 times as much money as the Evo or STI owner. But back here in reality, people take consideration of stupid things like brand prestige or luxury as well as common things like price, seating, number of doors, or size of the trunk.
Cars are not judged in the real world like they are in Forza with performance based classes. Just because something performs like something else doesn't mean they are in the same class or the same kind of buyers are going to purchase them. Sure, an obvious alternative to an STI is an EVO but buyers of those cars are not also looking at M5s or CTS-Vs. Here in the real world, people buy more 4-5 seating sports coupes than they do 2 seating sports coupes for a reason...they are more f*cking practical. Also, people who are willing to spend 25+ grand in a car are usually looking at cars costing the same price. They don't just say "well I like x car but since Y car is 10 grand more expensive/cheaper and seats two less people, I might buy that. Guys buying EVOs or STIs usually do so because they want a sports car but still want the ability to transport more than one other person. I would want one over something like an S2000 or Z because I have kids and a wife...similar to other people out there in that odd place called the real world. If we didn't have this problem of wanting a sports car but maintaining practicality, we would all be driving sports couples. And thats not even taking into account sh*t like the weather around the world making more people want to own cars more suited to their environment.
And its not like this is something new. People buy trucks instead of cars usually because they have to tow sh*t, carry more than you can in the trunk of a car, or other fun things trucks do that cars don't. Its the same basic principle. Yes, the BRZ/GT86 can be classed with cars like the Miata when you look at the numbers...but thats not all that matters and I think that is what you are missing. This will pull sales away from the Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger owners of the world because it has the things those cars have...like trunk space, 4 seats, and more room. You know, things that people look at when searching for a new car.