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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:23 AM

Saw this awhile back, but never posted it here.

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This kinda pisses me off. Dodge took what was once a proud American car with a V8 is being "resurrected" in the form of a tiny European compact with a lawnmower engine.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:11 AM

Was that the worst ugliest example of the old dart you could find? One specced like that is almost guaranteed to have a slant 6. At least throw one of the nicer high power V8 ones up there.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (Lurch @ Friday, Dec 9 2011, 09:11)
Was that the worst ugliest example of the old dart you could find? One specced like that is almost guaranteed to have a slant 6. At least throw one of the nicer high power V8 ones up there.

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AH, I didn't know about the differences, and I just google'd Dodge Dart. Those pictures are gorgeous though

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 05:35 PM

Googling for Plymouth Valiant I came up with this Australian version I'd never heard of, kind of cool...

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And of course how could we forget Duel 1971...

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The dart was a nice solid car slant 6 or 318 in it.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:48 PM

The 6 cylinder ones were like the dodge neons of the 60's and 70's. Truly sh*t poverty spec cars. The 318's weren't all that special either.

On the other hand you had the good engined ones would have been like the SRT-4 of their time. Dart GTS's with 340's and 383's. Then there were some super rare factory 440's and Hemi out there made for drag racing homologation (68 440's and 80 Hemis). And then Swinger 340's and Demon 340's as the last hot engine before the big power drop. Even after the compression drop, the Sport 360 was a pretty mean car for its time.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:03 AM

I loved the movie Duel. A classic!

Okay, I love this new DODGE DART car. A great successor to the Neon, but I think a different name would have been good. Can't wait for the full reveal on January 9, 2012! I want to see this car in an SRT package, might beat the Neon!

Maybe a good name would have been the Stealth, but overall, the new DART, and the reviving of the name, has been a success for Dodge. People are talking about it, and first impressions have been very positive. I hope it becomes a successful car for Dodge and company.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE (USAPatriot @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 08:03)
might beat the Neon!


Are you serious? lol

Neon's are a joke

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (Guns N R0se @ Friday, Dec 9 2011, 08:23)
European compact with a lawnmower engine.


Our family has a 'tiny european compact' with the same lawnmower engine that this dodge dart's getting. It's a Fiat 500 Abarth. monocle.gif

The design of this is ugly as sin though, it's like an sialfadodgeGTCrocco mashup thing. Dodge is only reviving the Dart name in order to get more publicity, if they called it the new Neon or whatever the car wouldn't get half as much coverage.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 07:36 PM

Wow, that is sad. I loved the old Dart and Valiant. Nothing beats that ultra cool concave back windshield.


I grew up during muscle car times, in a muscle car town. Oddly enough the only Darts I knew weren't muscled out.

Lurch, that first pic is nice. I would ditch the hood though.


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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:07 PM

Most Darts were girl cars.

Graduation gifts and whatnot.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (Guns N R0se @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 15:58)
QUOTE (USAPatriot @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 08:03)
might beat the Neon! 



Neon's are a joke

That's your opinion sir. smile.gif

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (trip @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 15:36)
Lurch, that first pic is nice. I would ditch the hood though.

What, the factory Swinger 340 hood? It's actually functional ya know?

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (Lurch @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 16:28)
QUOTE (trip @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 15:36)
Lurch, that first pic is nice.  I would ditch the hood though.

What, the factory Swinger 340 hood? It's actually functional ya know?

I dig that it is functional and all. I'm just going gay with design look I guess. It's just personal preference ya know, but I think it would look better all smooth with those slightly sloped up sides of the front panels.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:14 PM

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I'm just going gay

I've suspected this for a while now. tounge.gif

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 06:10 AM

QUOTE (USAPatriot @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 20:17)
QUOTE (Guns N R0se @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 15:58)
QUOTE (USAPatriot @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 08:03)
might beat the Neon! 



Neon's are a joke

That's your opinion sir. smile.gif

No, manual windows. It is in fact a joke. tounge.gif

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 06:27 AM Edited by stingray132, 12 December 2011 - 12:43 PM.

A full front-on shot courtesy of Allpar. The headlight assembly is still missing.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE (stingray132 @ Sunday, Dec 11 2011, 01:27)
A full front-on shot courtesy of Allpar. The headlight assembly is still missing.

It's not that bad, better looking then a Corrolla or Civic. Plus isn't there a rumor going around that it has a AWD option?

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 05:41 PM

QUOTE (kokot @ Friday, Dec 9 2011, 17:35)
And of course how could we forget Duel 1971...

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Don't... don't... don't sit on the hood. That hood will dent. I told the kids not to get on the hood! Just see if you can bounce it loose, and I'll... ah... just bounce it loose.



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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (USAPatriot @ Saturday, Dec 10 2011, 15:17)
That's your opinion sir. smile.gif

It's an opinion shared by the majority of people. As for the new Dart, call me crazy but I'm rather fond of what little we've seen of the design so far, excluding the interior; it seems like Dodge is going back to their "plastic everywhere" routine. I do wish they had picked a different name, though.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE (Pat @ Monday, Dec 19 2011, 17:56)
I do wish they had picked a different name, though.

What name would you have picked? Neon would have been fine, but some people found the car to be sh*t, plus it is a pretty recent name. Omni could have worked too, but it was a hatchback, while this is a sedan. Dodge seems to be resurrecting old names, and putting them on cars that would have been logical evolutions of them. The Dart was a compact back in the 60s and 70s, if it were still being built, it would most likely have adopted a front wheel drive platform if it stayed in production. The Charger would have added another set of doors, since large coupes don't sell as much as 4 door sedans.

Plus chances are the avenger replacement will adopt an older name as well. I can see it being named the Monaco or Coronet

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 08:46 AM

QUOTE (The General @ Tuesday, Dec 20 2011, 02:22)
Dodge seems to be resurrecting old names

And that's what I don't like. It's not a question of what name I would pick, it's a question of why they aren't picking new names. Resurrecting older names makes their products feel somewhat stale, because if they can't even put effort into thinking of a new name, how can I expect them to put effort into making an interesting car?

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE (Pat @ Tuesday, Dec 20 2011, 03:46)
QUOTE (The General @ Tuesday, Dec 20 2011, 02:22)
Dodge seems to be resurrecting old names

And that's what I don't like. It's not a question of what name I would pick, it's a question of why they aren't picking new names. Resurrecting older names makes their products feel somewhat stale, because if they can't even put effort into thinking of a new name, how can I expect them to put effort into making an interesting car?

Frankly I am thankful that none of the Mopar brands have started using the alpha numerical crap that the luxury brands are using. Plus I don't see how using older names make the cars stale. Old names already have the recognition that the newer names don't have. Plus the trademarks are usually already in place and so it is slightly cheaper to use them.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:07 AM

First Charger, then Challenger and now this? God why do they have to ruin everything! biggrin.gif

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:26 PM

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First Charger, then Challenger and now this? God why do they have to ruin everything! biggrin.gif

those two were beautiful

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:55 PM

I'm not to fond of the fact that it's called that dart, seeing as the Dart and the Duster are right up there at the top of my favorite old Mopar list, I love the old V-8 darts, the 340 Demon, the GTS etc.

I'm just not fond of this, not to bad looking, better than most other cars in it's class. I'm 50-50 on it. If it was me I would have called it the Shadow.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:58 PM

In Europe the Neon sold as a Chrysler

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:40 AM

I just wanted to toss this in here. It was by chance that I decided to do the slideshow from our local news site(titled: Ads from the 70s) and this was in it.
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