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#25741

Posted 31 May 2014 - 03:13 PM

Awesome Wayny !

I hadn't realized that Woody's was the same design as Gabriella's Market !

Good job, 3 in one !


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 08:24 PM Edited by Mr.Killa, 31 May 2014 - 08:58 PM.

Finally found something after an hour of searching around southern and eastern Downtown LA.

 

IRL: Vacant Building, 1351 S Flower St, Los Angeles

 

https://www.google.n...hOqziHPPdUg!2e0

 

In Game 1: Gear & Clothing, Atlee St, Downtown, Los Santos

 

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In Game 2: Mama´s Grocery, Sinner St, Downtown, Los Santos

 

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Edit: Found yet another one. 

 

IRL: Shekarchi Restaurant/Athena Parking, 909 S Hill St, Los Angeles

 

https://www.google.n...10iIwiD1sJQ!2e0

 

In Game: Bean Machine/Noodle, Strawberry Ave & Atlee St, Downtown, Los Santos

 

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Edit 2:

 

Not too sure about this one. It has a similar shape and windows are in similar places.Both IRL and IG, the buildings are very deprived. As we know, the seedy section of Vinewood mainly consists of buildings from totaly different neighborhoods than Hollywood, so atleast the location doesn´t matter. Maybe R* modified it heavily. I´ll let Wayne and Fido decide.

 

IRL: Factory Outlet (Vacant), 1356 S Broadway, Los Angeles

 

https://www.google.n...DcXBfBVw8Ww!2e0

 

In Game; Muscle Gymnasium & Sauna (Vacant), Clinton Ave, Vinewood, Los Santos

 

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#25743

Posted 31 May 2014 - 10:07 PM

This topic  :^:

 

A few months ago we knew nothing and we could only imagine things through this and other threads.

 

Now in a few seconds i will login in GTA Online to play 10 races and 10 of the other modes and taste this awsome map through the perfect gameplay. 

 

Thank you Rockstar for giving us the best game ever developed, this masterpiece, in the same price as Trials Fusion, NHL 13 and Rugby League Live 2.


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#25744

Posted 01 June 2014 - 01:38 AM Edited by Wayne Kerr, 02 June 2014 - 04:51 AM.

Awesome finds Mr.Killa.   :^:  :^:  :^:

The first & seconds ones are 100% matches.

I see where you're coming from with the third one, but I don't think it's a match unfortunately.

 

Now your turn.

Do you think your first find (top two images) is also a match with the bottom two images?

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:54 AM

Amazing post Mr.Killa !

Like Wayne said, I don't think your third find is a match. Only the general shape looks like the ingame one. The rest is too different.

The first and second are perfect ! I've been looking for these two for a long time! Kudos for finding them!

 

@Wayny ! I'd say 50-50. The last two look like streched versions of the first ones but there are also a few details that are different.

But they really look like the first two so...

 

I'd say let's go with it and if we find the eventual correct one, we can always change it.

What do you say ?


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Posted 01 June 2014 - 12:19 PM Edited by Mr.Killa, 01 June 2014 - 12:21 PM.

Yeah, I do think those are duplicates. The bottom picture is in South LS, isn´t it? 

 

And I suspected that the third find wasn ´t a match, but I didn´t want to take the chance of it actually being a match, and not posting it here.


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#25747

Posted 01 June 2014 - 03:06 PM Edited by Wayne Kerr, 01 June 2014 - 03:09 PM.

Fido.  You're right.  They're just stretched versions, & have a bit less detail.

I played around with the sizing on one of the duplicates, & once you get it to the same scale as the original, there's no doubt.  

I'll stick them on the map.   :^:

 

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Mr.Killa.  One of them is in Sth LS on Power St, the other is on Spanish Ave in Vinewood, right across the road from Michael's personal garage.  

4 in 1.  Not bad.   :cookie:  :cookie:  :cookie:  :cookie:

 

Edit.

Your turn Fido.  You gotta get a 5 in 1 now.


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#25748

Posted 02 June 2014 - 12:43 AM

F*cking Crenshaw again.  

Seriously, why do we even bother searching anywhere else?   :lol:

 

Real life.  Batson's Fine Laundering & Dry Cleaning, 6732 Crenshaw Blvd, Los Angeles.

In game.  Unnamed shop, Roy Lowenstein Blvd, Sth Los Santos.

I like how the plastic sheeting can be seen in the windows on both buildings.

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I think the sign-writing style on the IRL store has been used on another in-game building that we haven't found yet.

Could be a common style, but it seems a little too convenient.

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#25749

Posted 02 June 2014 - 05:58 PM

That last one is obviously copied from Batson's Dry Cleaning.

I almost want to say that it's a duplicate but the top and the windows/door are too different.

 

I say let's put it on the map and we'll change it if we find the correct one.

What do you say ?


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Posted 02 June 2014 - 06:08 PM

F*cking Crenshaw again.  

Seriously, why do we even bother searching anywhere else?   :lol:

 

 

 

Crenshaw must be the only street in South Central that R* felt safe driving down, lol.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 01:33 PM Edited by Wayne Kerr, 05 June 2014 - 02:04 PM.

@ Fido.

No, I'm not convinced it's a duplicate.  Most probably there will be another matching IRL building.

I just wanted to point out the sign-writing because that's what made me take a closer look at Batson's in the first place.

I hate those hybrid buildings & modified duplicates.  They always make us second guess whether they are the right ones or not.

 

@ coach_wargo.

Haha...it wouldn't surprise me.

I almost sh*t my pants a few times just googling through parts of Watts & Compton.  :lol:

 

 

New find(s).

It's not the best IRL image, but it'll have to do for now, unless Koeklin or someone else with Bing Streetside can see if there's a better image.

 

Real life.  Chabad Jewish Community Center & Ecologica Furniture, 22933 & 22941 Pacific Coast Hwy, Malibu.

In game 1.  Belinda May's Beauty Salon & No Marks Cleaners, Ineseno Rd, Chumash.

In game 2.  Belinda May's Beauty Salon & No Marks Cleaners, Paleto Blvd, Paleto Bay. (slightly modified)

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All I could find was this tiny image of the Chabad Jewish Center, but it gives a better view of the doors & filled in window.

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Edit.

Forgot to include the (slightly) better view of Ecologica.

The large blue awning is obviously a R* modification, but the highlight windows & little curved window sills are still there.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 01:47 PM

WOW GTA V map is awesome


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#25753

Posted 05 June 2014 - 05:51 PM

That's a match on both counts Wayne. Good eye!
And the locationis on par with the ingame one so it's 100% sure. :)

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#25754

Posted 06 June 2014 - 10:34 AM

Can't go through all the comment to.see if this has been posted already or not but here yous go - amazing

http://m.imgur.com/a/yaNP1
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 07:22 PM Edited by koeklin, 06 June 2014 - 08:06 PM.

Thanks malcolmfunktion, I don't think that the LAXT Coke Storage Domes have been already mentioned here.

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 02:09 AM Edited by Wayne Kerr, 07 June 2014 - 02:59 AM.

Can't go through all the comment to.see if this has been posted already or not but here yous go - amazing

http://m.imgur.com/a/yaNP1

Wow.  Some great pics in there.  

It's good to see them all in one place.  Thanks mate.   :^:  :^:  :^:

 

 

@ koeklin.

I think you're right.  I can't remember the Coke Storage Domes being mentioned either.

 

Also, I'm not sure that Paleto Bay is based on Fillmore CA.  

It has buildings from several different IRL towns, including Fillmore, but has a lot of duplicates from Sth LA & Malibu. 

There are several coastal towns on the Cabrillo Hwy that it could be based on though, or it could just be a R* mash-up.

 

EDIT.

Another thing.  Did we ever confirm which prison is the correct one?

There are several prisons that have a similar design & I think someone on this thread found one with that distinctive "J" shaped moat/drain thingy.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:22 AM

Wow... fantastic finds in the past few weeks!   :^:  :^:  :^:

 



Another thing.  Did we ever confirm which prison is the correct one?

There are several prisons that have a similar design & I think someone on this thread found one with that distinctive "J" shaped moat/drain thingy.

 

The J-shaped trench was found by Piramic on September 10 (link). There are quite a few similar-looking prisons in southern CA, but I guess for now we've been relying on that trench to make the call.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 11:14 AM

Can't go through all the comment to.see if this has been posted already or not but here yous go - amazing

http://m.imgur.com/a/yaNP1

 

Interesting! It doesn't compete with our findings in terms of completeness, but does a great job in creating matching in-game photos.

 

I've added three of the landmarks to the map: The parking garages on Santa Monica Blvd (obvious match, more of an oversight), Mugu Lagoon (by far the best candidate for Lago Zancudo), and -- the most interesting addition -- the Los Angeles Export Terminal Coke Storage Domes. From what I could gather online, the reason we never found them is that the whole Export Terminal, including the domes, was demolished years ago.

 

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:07 PM

^^ Yeah, there are some great shots in that album.

I've had a bit of a look at some other State Prisons, but what a surprise, there aren't many photos available.

The Lancaster State Prison is clearly the best candidate though.  It's the only one with a "J" moat.  

The overall shape & style are also a match, even though several others are similar.

 

New find.

Spotted this one a while ago but wasn't 100% sure at the time, but after going through Main St. Santa Monica again, I'm now pretty sure it's a match.

It's located right next door to Sam's Bagels IRL & Dickie's Bagels IG, so there's a good chance it's the right one.

Real life.  Rick's Tavern on Main, 2907 Main St, Santa Monica.

In game.  Calabrone Cyclery, Bay City Ave, Vespucci.

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:06 PM Edited by Fido_le_muet, 09 June 2014 - 09:11 PM.

Nice find Wayne. Do you think the store just next to it is the Noodle thing ?

I'm asking cause that would make 4 IRL stores located exactly the same in GTA.

 

And where is the J shape at the Lancaster prison ? I don't see it on Google Earth.

 

Nevermind, just saw it.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:32 AM

^^ I think it's intended to be the Noodle shop but it does have some differences.

The next two shops to the right (both IG & IRL) are the Lettuce Be health shop & Period Rags clothes shop.

That would be 6 matches in a row but he Noodle shop & Period Rags are slightly different to IRL.

I'll put together a few pics later on & then you guys can decide.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 02:56 AM Edited by Mrthingus, 10 June 2014 - 02:59 AM.

And now you get the pleasure of retaking everything if you have an 8th gen console or PC.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 03:21 AM Edited by Wayne Kerr, 10 June 2014 - 03:28 AM.

That's great news.

I wonder if any new buildings will be added or existing ones modified/enhanced.

I'll check out the trailer to see if I can spot anything different.

 

Edit.  Didn't notice anything new, but wow, it looks spectacular.

 

Mr T.  I suspect the word "pleasure" was used sarcastically.   :lol:


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:57 PM

That's great news.

I wonder if any new buildings will be added or existing ones modified/enhanced.

I'll check out the trailer to see if I can spot anything different.

 

Edit.  Didn't notice anything new, but wow, it looks spectacular.

 

Mr T.  I suspect the word "pleasure" was used sarcastically.   :lol:

 

Yeah, I don't expect the map to change. On the other hand, higher-resolution Snapmatic is something I can imagine.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 02:38 PM

@ lxr

Yeah, from what I could see, nothing has changed with the map.  I was really hoping to see something new or something that looked a little different.  

For a moment it felt like pre-release again.  It was a good feeling going through a new trailer frame by frame.

The Snapmatics will look amazing in high-res.  For some buildings, it's gonna be hard to tell the difference between IRL & IG.  Can't wait.

 

@ Fido

Here's that group of shops on Main St. Santa Monica.

The highlighted/coloured ones are definite matches we've already found.

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The Noodle shop is a close call, even though there's no awning IG & the window doesn't go all the way to the ground IRL.

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Period Rags is more doubtful.  The IG shop is wider, the cladding is different & the door/window layout is not a match either.

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Two or three shops to the right, there is an IRL shop that has matching weatherboard cladding to Period Rags, but other than that, nothing else matches.

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My gut says they are not matches even though they should be.   :lol:

What do you guys think?

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 08:32 PM

@Wayne: Hard to tell... I'd say it's rather a yes, given the location, but yeah... not really certain.

 

In other news, I've started to take some of pictures still missing from the map, mostly in Vinewood and in the Vinewood Hills. This will take a while though, I've only added a few dozen so far...


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 09:21 PM

Yeah, we can't say for sure if they are or aren't matches.

Tough ones. I think the Noodle shop is a match but not Period Rags.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 01:15 AM

Cool.  Glad you guys agree.

It's a very similar situation to these factories & warehouses in East LS.

R* basically copied an IRL street, but substituted one random building for another one from somewhere else in LA.

They've obviously done the same sort of thing on Main St. Santa Monica as well.

It's possible we've already identified the Noodle shop & Period Rags, but just haven't put the puzzle pieces together yet.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 08:13 AM Edited by lxr, 13 June 2014 - 09:05 AM.

Found one more duplicate: 1102 Ace Jones Dr reappears as 1005 N Rockford Dr.

 

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Other than that, finding matches in the Vinewood/Rockford Hills area is really surprisingly hard. There are lots of faux spanish, faux chateau and faux medieval buildings that look like close candidates, but they're usually very generic. After all, there may be as much duplication in real-life LA as there is in the game...

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 09:46 AM Edited by Wayne Kerr, 13 June 2014 - 10:11 AM.



Found one more duplicate: 1102 Ace Jones Dr reappears as 1005 N Rockford Dr.

 

Other than that, finding matches in the Vinewood/Rockford Hills area is really surprisingly hard. There are lots of faux spanish, faux chateau and faux medieval buildings that look like close candidates, but they're usually very generic. After all, there may be as much duplication in real-life LA as there is in the game...

Well spotted lxr.

 

Haha....I know what you mean.  When I first looked in the Hollywood Hills area, I thought every second house was a match.   :lol:

The other problem in that area is getting a good look at some of the homes on Google streetview.

Lots of them have trees & high fences in the way, or the Google car is so close to the building that you can't get a good look at it.

 

Edit.

May as well post this duplicate as well.

Real life.  Mission Market & Grocery & adjoining stores, 2527 West Slauson Ave, Los Angeles.  (from 2 or 3 pages ago)

In game.  Golden Buns Bakery, Paleto Bay Tattoo Parlour & closing down Clothing store, Paleto Blvd & Duluoz Ave, Paleto Bay.

Already used twice on Carson Ave Sth LS. (bottom pics)

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