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#21961

Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:35 AM

QUOTE (aussieozzyaussie @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 01:51)
QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 00:04)
QUOTE (feestaap1 @ Wednesday, Aug 28 2013, 23:38)
the small tower to the right of this picture that sticks above the lowbuild buildings...

user posted image

can it be the at&t tower:

user posted image

No. Different structure.
It was discussed a few days ago. It's believed to be the sign for the Los Santos Coliseum.
In the game it's probably called the Maize Bank Arena.
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I reckon it looks like an aircraft control tower...

This person is right it's an airport control tower,the part on the top is a red rotating antenna.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:52 AM

QUOTE (rockstar86 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 03:35)
QUOTE (aussieozzyaussie @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 01:51)
QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 00:04)
QUOTE (feestaap1 @ Wednesday, Aug 28 2013, 23:38)
the small tower to the right of this picture that sticks above the lowbuild buildings...

user posted image

can it be the at&t tower:

user posted image

No. Different structure.
It was discussed a few days ago. It's believed to be the sign for the Los Santos Coliseum.
In the game it's probably called the Maize Bank Arena.
user posted imageuser posted image

I reckon it looks like an aircraft control tower...

This person is right it's an airport control tower,the part on the top is a red rotating antenna.

Wow. You're right.
Why don't we all redo the maps & Rockstar's blueprint map.
Let's put a f*cking airport on the freeway.

Read the last page. It CANNOT be an air-traffic tower.
You may think it looks like one, but it is not one. Simple as that.

Edit. Here is the image & map again.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 04:03 AM

QUOTE (aussieozzyaussie @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 03:29)
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QUOTE (aussieozzyaussie @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 01:51)
QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 00:04)
QUOTE (feestaap1 @ Wednesday, Aug 28 2013, 23:38)
the small tower to the right of this picture that sticks above the lowbuild buildings...


can it be the at&t tower:


No. Different structure.
It was discussed a few days ago. It's believed to be the sign for the Los Santos Coliseum.
In the game it's probably called the Maize Bank Arena.

I reckon it looks like an aircraft control tower...

It's definitely not an air-traffic control tower. That would be way off screen to the bottom right.
It closely matches the real life Los Angeles Coliseum sign & is in the right place to be a sign for the Los Santos Arena.


that's fair enough, but still difficult to make it out clearly.

Yeah, it's not the clearest image of the sign.
I think there is another screenshot that shows the same sign. I'll have a dig around & see if I can find it.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 05:34 AM

QUOTE (Diego_Per @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 02:58)
QUOTE (ZeeKid2k10 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 02:10)
http://oi42.tinypic.com/2sbqxvk.jpg

Well this broke my heart.

this actually just made my day smile.gif finally an end to all that annoying madness around here smile.gif but I'm pretty sure some cloud formation in the new offical trailer will be the "fact" for a new discussion about new cities.


dont get me wrong I'd love it if there were new cities but there isn't.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 05:35 AM Edited by The Leprechaun, 29 August 2013 - 05:42 AM.

So, I know I've been harping on about this, but I feel that a further addendum needs to be added.
The meaning of Puerta can be found here: http://www.spanishce...ranslate/puerta
The meaning of Puerto can be found here: http://www.spanishce...ranslate/puerto
I was talking to a coworker who is a native spanish speaker about the usage of La Puerta versus El Puerto today.
I asked her if La Puerta would likely be used as a synonym for Port, and her response was no, because they'd just use El Puerto. This doesn't change even for gender identification like Puerto Magdalena in Baja California Sur.
She told me that La Puerta would only be used to signify a door, entrance, or gateway.
This same person has never heard the word Paleto, and I assume most of you would never of heard of it unless spanish speaker from Espana.
Why do I bring that up? It's to show that R* knows their spanish and knows that they would try to be accurate and metaphoric in their use spanish in GTA 5.
I asked her specifically if La Puerta would be used as symbol of a Gateway to the World, and she said that is a very good use for La Puerta.
What better way to describe the gateway in the next image as a literal gateway of the Sun, of Puerta Del Sol?
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And what better way to describe the area just North of LSX as La Puerta, or The Gateway (or The Entrance)? To the city or even the world?
I really want someone to tell me how, after all the evidence and explanation, I could easily be wrong. Additionally, do people really think there are two Del Sols on the same map? Interestingly there is a restaurant in the Gaslamp district called La Puerta, is it not hard to imagine that they went there and remembered the name and combined it the arch and Marina Del Rey. How many arena's are kind of close to Vespucci? Only one that we've seen. This is pretty much overwhelming evidence, all that's missing is a sign with an arrow pointing to the Marina del Rey area saying Puerta Del Sol.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:30 AM

QUOTE (The Leprechaun @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 05:35)
So, I know I've been harping on about this, but I feel that a further addendum needs to be added.
The meaning of Puerta can be found here: http://www.spanishce...ranslate/puerta
The meaning of Puerto can be found here: http://www.spanishce...ranslate/puerto
I was talking to a coworker who is a native spanish speaker about the usage of La Puerta versus El Puerto today.
I asked her if La Puerta would likely be used as a synonym for Port, and her response was no, because they'd just use El Puerto. This doesn't change even for gender identification like Puerto Magdalena in Baja California Sur.
She told me that La Puerta would only be used to signify a door, entrance, or gateway.
This same person has never heard the word Paleto, and I assume most of you would never of heard of it unless spanish speaker from Espana.
Why do I bring that up? It's to show that R* knows their spanish and knows that they would try to be accurate and metaphoric in their use spanish in GTA 5.
I asked her specifically if La Puerta would be used as symbol of a Gateway to the World, and she said that is a very good use for La Puerta.
What better way to describe the gateway in the next image as a literal gateway of the Sun, of Puerta Del Sol?

And what better way to describe the area just North of LSX as La Puerta, or The Gateway (or The Entrance)? To the city or even the world?
I really want someone to tell me how, after all the evidence and explanation, I could easily be wrong. Additionally, do people really think there are two Del Sols on the same map? Interestingly there is a restaurant in the Gaslamp district called La Puerta, is it not hard to imagine that they went there and remembered the name and combined it the arch and Marina Del Rey. How many arena's are kind of close to Vespucci? Only one that we've seen. This is pretty much overwhelming evidence, all that's missing is a sign with an arrow pointing to the Marina del Rey area saying Puerta Del Sol.

@ The Leprechaun.
I know you've been asking about this a few times, but I can't really help you out.
It's something Fido, zombie elvis & a few of the other regular contributors need to help with. They are a lot better with the city areas.

What you probably need to do is label some of your images with arrows & circles etc. I might be able to help if you can do that.
If you need help with the labels, just PM me & I'll give you a quick rundown of what to do. It's really easy.

Cheers.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:21 AM

@The Leprechaun : Yeah, I believe that Puerta Del Sol on the freeway sign and the "Del Sol" on the San Diego sign
are linked and are probably the same place.
Now, we still don't know if it's really the marina that's called like that but it is very likely.
Still, no confirmation, but it's probably it wink.gif
And by the way, I modified the numbering on the freeways like you said yesterday.
I was indeed wrong with I-5 being East/West.
I understood that it is the North/South freeway that's going to LSX and the harbor.
I updated my map but haven't uploaded it yet wink.gif


And the sign to the right of the screenshot from the previous page IS the LA Forum Sign.
No doubt about it. It's even located near the Maze Bank Arena.
I need to add it on my map by the way.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:30 AM Edited by The Leprechaun, 29 August 2013 - 07:48 AM.

QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 06:30)
@ The Leprechaun.
I know you've been asking about this a few times, but I can't really help you out.
It's something Fido, zombie elvis & a few of the other regular contributors need to help with.  They are a lot better with the city areas.

What you probably need to do is label some of your images with arrows & circles etc.  I might be able to help if you can do that.
If you need help with the labels, just PM me & I'll give you a quick rundown of what to do.  It's really easy.

Cheers.

Fido has basically told me it's speculation, even though there is nearly zero evidence for Marina Del Sol (which is straight up speculation). I've even looked through his Flickr stuff and it has enough evidence to back up what I am talking about.
Additionally, I don't really know how do that, whether or not my computer can do it, and I am not sure if I feel like signing up to a service 2 1/2 weeks before release for a small amount of forum cred. I could post a lot of links to fido's flickr and GTA 5.net's screenshot gallery.

In addition this recent talk of the LA Coliseum's sign has given me one more point of backing evidence.
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The above image is not in the Airport, because you can see it in the next image.
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The sign is likely this one.
http://www.trbimg.co...608/600/600x373
Interestingly, this sign is one built to be connected to the Olympic games of 1984 and the East-West Freeway (that I see being called the Olympic Freeway) just south of Downtown LS seems to go directly towards this sign. As the memorial coliseum and the Forum were used for many teams in the the Olympics and in general. Additionally, The Forum is also located just west of the Airport, which is just south of Marina Del Rey, which is just south of Venice. Which is exactly the design I am arguing for Vespucci (Venice), Puerta Del Sol (the Marina), La Puerta (LAX and Century City), and the Maze Bank Arena (Inglewood and Olympic center).

Here is many of the links that are either connected to the Puerta Del Sol region or show the Freeway Interchange between La Puerta Fwy (5) and Olympic Fwy. (unknown even number). (Some may be repeats as my computer doesn't like Flickr for some reason, it took looking after I scanned through GTA 5.net screenshots)
http://media.gtanet..../867-1280-1.jpg
http://media.gtanet..../861-1280-1.jpg
http://media.gtanet....0cd261794bb.jpg
http://media.gtanet....ullsize/862.jpg
http://media.gtanet....eenshot_302.jpg
http://media.gtanet....ze/e3sony_3.jpg
http://media.gtanet....ay-crash-gi.jpg
http://media.gtanet....122412_1280.jpg
http://gtablog.com/w...en-shots-10.jpg
http://media.gtanet....fullsize/22.jpg
http://media.gtanet....fullsize/12.jpg
http://www.flickr.co...57629958877959/
http://www.flickr.co...57629958877959/
http://www.flickr.co...77959/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.co...77959/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.co...77959/lightbox/
http://farm6.staticf...a3cba3466_z.jpg

EDIT: Thank you Fido, the reason I am pushing for this so much harder, is that the sign seems to be listing off areas (like Vespucci and the Maze Bank Arena, which is probably an area), which seems to push for the near likelihood that these are regions of Los Santos like Vinewood, Richman, Rockford Hills, Pacific Bluffs, East LS, Paleto Bay, Downtown, and Little Seoul (the last four show a clearer indication on how R* use signs). Basically, the rule on GTA 5 signs seems to be, that unless there is a road (Street, Fwy., Blvd. etc.) mentioned in the sign, the sign indicates a region.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:34 AM

not long to go! looking forward to comparing the maps posted here to the real map. the work and effort put in here is actually amazing. well done smile.gif

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:36 AM

@aussieozzyaussie, Fido & The Leprechaun.
These were the only decent images I could find that show the LA Forum sign.
Not much help, but at least they confirm the structure IS a sign for the Maize Bank Arena, NOT an air-traffic control tower.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:43 AM

Map update :

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 08:05 AM

QUOTE (Fido_le_muet @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 10:43)
Map update :

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Nice, thank you smile.gif .

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 11:36 AM

Nice!

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 11:38 AM

Ever1 on this topic are nerds and social degenerates

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 11:42 AM

Superb map Fido icon14.gif .

Is it me or does Grapeseed and Sandy Shores look too close? How long do you think it takes to drive from one to the other?

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 11:51 AM

where is snow?
this north yankt is where?

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 11:54 AM

QUOTE (QUANTRELBISHOP @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 12:38)
Ever1 on this topic are nerds and social degenerates

At least most of them can spell and know grammar.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (QUANTRELBISHOP @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 11:38)
Ever1 on this topic are nerds and social degenerates

Yo ELPRES, is that you?

(sorry for spam, amazing job with maps guys)

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 12:27 PM

QUOTE (PaddsterG2k3 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 13:42)
Superb map Fido icon14.gif .

Is it me or does Grapeseed and Sandy Shores look too close? How long do you think it takes to drive from one to the other?

Well, it seems they are fairly close to each other.
I'd say it takes about a minute to go from one to the other.
I could be wrong though.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 12:34 PM

Good work dude, it still puzzles me though why you haven't added the military base seen on the Zancudo River here:

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 12:36 PM

Fido do you have an image of comparing V's map size vs San Andreas'?

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 12:37 PM

QUOTE (Fido_le_muet @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 12:27)
QUOTE (PaddsterG2k3 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 13:42)
Superb map Fido  icon14.gif .

Is it me or does Grapeseed and Sandy Shores look too close? How long do you think it takes to drive from one to the other?

Well, it seems they are fairly close to each other.
I'd say it takes about a minute to go from one to the other.
I could be wrong though.

Even if it did take 1 minute, that would still be good. I think it might be longer than that some reason. whatsthat.gif

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE (dyz @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 12:37)
QUOTE (Fido_le_muet @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 12:27)
QUOTE (PaddsterG2k3 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 13:42)
Superb map Fido  icon14.gif .

Is it me or does Grapeseed and Sandy Shores look too close? How long do you think it takes to drive from one to the other?

Well, it seems they are fairly close to each other.
I'd say it takes about a minute to go from one to the other.
I could be wrong though.

Even if it did take 1 minute, that would still be good. I think it might be longer than that some reason. whatsthat.gif

Yeah it'll probably seem longer or won't be noticeable. It must have been just 1 minute to get between Dilimore and Palomino Creek in SA but it didn't seem an issue. I'm sure it'll be the same here.

God I can't wait for this game!

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 03:52)
QUOTE (rockstar86 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 03:35)
QUOTE (aussieozzyaussie @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 01:51)
QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 00:04)
QUOTE (feestaap1 @ Wednesday, Aug 28 2013, 23:38)
the small tower to the right of this picture that sticks above the lowbuild buildings...

user posted image

can it be the at&t tower:

user posted image

No. Different structure.
It was discussed a few days ago. It's believed to be the sign for the Los Santos Coliseum.
In the game it's probably called the Maize Bank Arena.
user posted imageuser posted image

I reckon it looks like an aircraft control tower...

This person is right it's an airport control tower,the part on the top is a red rotating antenna.

Wow. You're right.
Why don't we all redo the maps & Rockstar's blueprint map.
Let's put a f*cking airport on the freeway.

Read the last page. It CANNOT be an air-traffic tower.
You may think it looks like one, but it is not one. Simple as that.




My bad looked into it a bit further and noticed this image.

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You can tell the shape of the control tower in the above image is nothing like the other tower I thought was an airport control tower, my apologies.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:24 PM

It seems that the game will have significantly less towns spread around the map than San Andreas.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (HoboDealer @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 12:34)
Good work dude, it still puzzles me though why you haven't added the military base seen on the Zancudo River here:

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It everything here. Yeah it looks like somekind of army base, maybe HQ of Merryweather?

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE (rockstar86 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 13:22)
QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 03:52)
QUOTE (rockstar86 @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 03:35)
QUOTE (aussieozzyaussie @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 01:51)
QUOTE (Wayne Kerr @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 00:04)
QUOTE (feestaap1 @ Wednesday, Aug 28 2013, 23:38)
the small tower to the right of this picture that sticks above the lowbuild buildings...

can it be the at&t tower:


No. Different structure.
It was discussed a few days ago. It's believed to be the sign for the Los Santos Coliseum.
In the game it's probably called the Maize Bank Arena.
user posted imageuser posted image

I reckon it looks like an aircraft control tower...

This person is right it's an airport control tower,the part on the top is a red rotating antenna.

Wow. You're right.
Why don't we all redo the maps & Rockstar's blueprint map.
Let's put a f*cking airport on the freeway.

Read the last page. It CANNOT be an air-traffic tower.
You may think it looks like one, but it is not one. Simple as that.




My bad looked into it a bit further and noticed this image.

user posted image

You can tell the shape of the control tower in the above image is nothing like the other tower I thought was an airport control tower, my apologies.

No worries.
The flame on top of the sign could easily be mistaken for a something else if we didn't know it was a replica of the LA Coliseum sign.
We knew where it was on the map, so we knew 100% it wasn't an air-traffic tower.

The radar aerial in the image you posted is at the military base at the end of the Zancudo River.

Cheers.

Edit. Good timing. See post above.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:38 PM

I didn't draw the military base because we don't know its layout.
We're not even sure it's really a military base. I mean, yeah we're kinda sure that its the military base
but no clear confirmation. It most certainly is though.

Maybe I should write Military Base on the map.
I'll wait for the new trailer though, maybe it will show something biggrin.gif

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE (Fido_le_muet @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 13:38)
I didn't draw the military base because we don't know its layout.
We're not even sure it's really a military base. I mean, yeah we're kinda sure that its the military base
but no clear confirmation. It most certainly is though.

Maybe I should write Military Base on the map.
I'll wait for the new trailer though, maybe it will show something biggrin.gif

It actually might look like some kind of Aztech ruins, but im not sure since there are palm trees infront, so its unlikely.


Yeah the trailer will definetly show new locations, I hope that they finally reveal Yankton so we can end this for good.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Negan @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 13:40)
QUOTE (Fido_le_muet @ Thursday, Aug 29 2013, 13:38)
I didn't draw the military base because we don't know its layout.
We're not even sure it's really a military base. I mean, yeah we're kinda sure that its the military base
but no clear confirmation. It most certainly is though.

Maybe I should write Military Base on the map.
I'll wait for the new trailer though, maybe it will show something biggrin.gif

It actually might look like some kind of Aztech ruins, but im not sure since there are palm trees infront, so its unlikely.


Yeah the trailer will definetly show new locations, I hope that they finally reveal Yankton so we can end this for good.

We can only see the Eastern edge of the base on this heist planning board.
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I think that's how zombie elvis got the shape for the base on his map.
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Only 1 hour to go. Hopefully we get some new areas & details to map.




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