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#8521

Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

This new stuff confirms that this part of the map's border is water/sea. We haven't seen the rest yet. Maybe some part of the map has a sea border while the other side of the map has a mountain border.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:32 PM

QUOTE (DODI3OG @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:21)
QUOTE (ChillyPhilly @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 23:16)
QUOTE (Cysiek @ Tuesday, Apr 23 2013, 01:33)
http://i.imgur.com/JR263QT.png

I think that's it.

Too small to be that mountain. There aren't even Rocks with Trees on it at the sides of the mountain.

the upper image is zommed in

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (bud23 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 19:29)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 19:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

I suppose you mean several islands interconnected (or not) to each other.

I doubt the map will be seperated by each other due to there won't be unlockable islands in the beginning like it has been in the past. The whole map will be unlocked in the beginning and just some features will be unlocked during the progress.

And this water doesn't confirm anything like the map will be an island. If this is heading towards North-East like it would be in reallife this would mean there is the Pacific Ocean in the West and land in the East.
But I also think the map will be an island. The would be the best solution imo.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE (doubled @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:31)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

This new stuff confirms that this part of the map's border is water/sea. We haven't seen the rest yet. Maybe some part of the map has a sea border while the other side of the map has a mountain border.

The sun is rising off the coast, but it sets off Venice beach.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:03 PM

Not that it means much, but here it is:

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

Dude, it's GTA. Was there even a doubt?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (LTA1992 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 19:57)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

Dude, it's GTA. Was there even a doubt?

After Red Dead Redemption, yes.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:15 PM Edited by LTA1992, 22 April 2013 - 08:18 PM.

QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 19:59)
QUOTE (LTA1992 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 19:57)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

Dude, it's GTA. Was there even a doubt?

After Red Dead Redemption, yes.

Red Deads a different story. It didn't have flying contraptions.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:23 PM

Mountains border is pretty much impossible in my opinion. You know, that's never happened in GTA Franchise and never will. GTAV Map will be the classic island (or islands) sorrounded by sea/ocean. For those of you comparing with RDR, usually in GTA games you are able to fly, so a mountain border looks very unlikely to me, how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE (LTA1992 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:15)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 19:59)
QUOTE (LTA1992 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 19:57)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

Dude, it's GTA. Was there even a doubt?

After Red Dead Redemption, yes.

Red Deads a different story. It didn't have flying contraptions.

And finally Red Dead was an recreation made to be as accurate as possible. The world of V is fictionalised. Los Angeles may be bordered by more land but it doesn't mean Los Santos is. Same for every other GTA city smile.gif

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 16:23)
Mountains border is pretty much impossible in my opinion. You know, that's never happened in GTA Franchise and never will. GTAV Map will be the classic island (or islands) sorrounded by sea/ocean. For those of you comparing with RDR, usually in GTA games you are able to fly, so a mountain border looks very unlikely to me, how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

It's easy, the mountains will be the border of the island, much like Las Venturas of GTA SA.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:36 PM

I think we will see endless sea to the south/southwest and endless desert to the north/northwest.

But it could also be an island. It just wouldn't be realistic.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 21:26)
QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 16:23)
Mountains border is pretty much impossible in my opinion. You know, that's never happened in GTA Franchise and never will. GTAV Map will be the classic island (or islands) sorrounded by sea/ocean. For those of you comparing with RDR, usually in GTA games you are able to fly, so a mountain border looks very unlikely to me, how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

It's easy, the mountains will be the border of the island, much like Las Venturas of GTA SA.

In this case, mountains won't be the border though.
I think even endless desert it's very unlikely, actually I can't see any other possibility than the island map.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 16:42)
QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 21:26)
QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 16:23)
Mountains border is pretty much impossible in my opinion. You know, that's never happened in GTA Franchise and never will. GTAV Map will be the classic island (or islands) sorrounded by sea/ocean. For those of you comparing with RDR, usually in GTA games you are able to fly, so a mountain border looks very unlikely to me, how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

It's easy, the mountains will be the border of the island, much like Las Venturas of GTA SA.

In this case, mountains won't be the border though.
I think even endless desert it's very unlikely, actually I can't see any other possibility than the island map.

That's what I was trying to say.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:23)
...how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

Invisible walls?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:52 PM

is that Gta 5?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:52)
QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:23)
...how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

Invisible walls?

very easily. when you hit a certain point something alerts you that plane is low/out of fuel. So your forced to either ditch or crash

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (Zulu412 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:56)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:52)
QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:23)
...how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

Invisible walls?

very easily. when you hit a certain point something alerts you that plane is low/out of fuel. So your forced to either ditch or crash

As if you want this to happen.

ISLAND

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (initium @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:59)
QUOTE (Zulu412 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:56)
QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:52)
QUOTE (uJhatafart00 @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:23)
...how they can force you to not exceed mountains?

Invisible walls?

very easily. when you hit a certain point something alerts you that plane is low/out of fuel. So your forced to either ditch or crash

As if you want this to happen.

ISLAND

So you'd rather just fly over endless ocean instead. I'd rather have them do this.
Parts could be over ocean, mountain, or dessert.
Better than just flying straight forever.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (InternetKillTV @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 20:26)
And finally Red Dead was an recreation made to be as accurate as possible. The world of V is fictionalised. Los Angeles may be bordered by more land but it doesn't mean Los Santos is. Same for every other GTA city smile.gif

Well that goes for RDR's world as well. RDR's world is completely fictionalized, it's a fictional state that's based on the general American Southwest geography but otherwise not based on any specific location. So I don't really get the whole "recreation made to be as accurate as possible" thing. It's even more fictionalized than GTA V is.

But there's different needs for each game. RDR's world wouldn't feel right as an island, because there needs to be a sense of endless expanse in a western. After all, you never see the ocean in a western. And without planes or helicopters, it's easier to control the borders without having to have obvious invisible walls.

GTA on the other hand requires a sense of 'completeness'. So even though the real location it's based on isn't an island, you want to create a sense of true freedom of movement, that the player can go anywhere they can see. This is why R* hasn't done invisible walls since GTA III, and that game didn't technically have any controllable flying vehicles, so the player wasn't supposed to come across said invisible walls. So you have two choices: endless ocean on all sides, or endless ocean on one side and endless land on the other. I don't really see the latter happening, as endless procedurally-generating terrain isn't really R*s thing, either.

Most likely they'll create an illusion of land continuing with the use of hills on the eastern border, then a fictional coast behind them.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:07 PM

I'd like Endless desert, would make fun for driving on. And as someone said, there could easily be workarounds for mountains such as low fuel and sh*t. But knowing R* they'll have a trick up their sleeves

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (GourangaMaster @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 17:08)
I see what you mean GTAkiwi, with P actually hidden by B making the mountain just infront being the range behind A (the observatory mountain)?

Yeah that's right. Wish I had of realized that before I made the map. Oh well, the rest of the map should still be good, just the city
and the vinewood/observatory hills are not quite correct. If I fixed it, I don't think it would change the look of the map that much.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:17 PM

Okay, if it's a mountain edge there's no way they'd be stupid enough to do anything other than make your plane turn around like in Saints Row 2.

Endless desert would work I guess.

When you apply logic, endless ocean.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE (JOSEPH X @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 18:23)
The new stuff pretty much confirms the map will be an island.

Im felling an island now after seeing this, as this is a change in climate as it looks very cold and frosty, possibly snowy. Which suggests it's very far away from anything we've seen as of yet.

Although, San Andreas is a state, it can't be a state if Los Santos is a separate island to San Fierro/Las Venturas? They would have to be connected by road right?

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:46 PM

This landscape looks pretty devoid of vegetation.... doesn't look like Southern California.

The rock types and colors make me think more of heading up into the Pacific Northwest such as Washington State or Oregon. I know the creators said a "re-imagined SoCal" but this looks like it could be the northern California border with Oregon... minus the lush trees...

Also the weather lighting probably has something to do with it. The tunnels in the pictures remind me the area of Whetstone County as you head south from San Fierro to Angel Pine.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:48 PM

QUOTE (omawnakw @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 10:23)
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Maybe this is an island that is a recreation of Catalina Island which is right off the coast of LA.

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The Epsilon images reminded me more of an island than mainland.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:48 PM

It's just a filter. That stuff won't be blue in the game. It's grassy and rocky just like the rest of the game and, particularly in the freeway part of the screensaver, looks perfectly SoCal-like.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:49 PM

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 21:48)
QUOTE (omawnakw @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 10:23)


Maybe this is an island that is a recreation of Catalina Island which is right off the coast of LA.








The Epsilon images reminded me more of an island than mainland.

That is highly likely too. Nice point.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:51 PM

You know, you might be correct. That structure along the shoreline matches the building in the picture.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 21:48)
QUOTE (omawnakw @ Monday, Apr 22 2013, 10:23)
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Maybe this is an island that is a recreation of Catalina Island which is right off the coast of LA.

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The Epsilon images reminded me more of an island than mainland.

Eeee I don't agree, I think it's the end of the mountain range which I posted earlier.




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