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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:33 PM

ign image motion blur removed (not much but at least useful):

4 slightly different versions

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:34 PM Edited by lxr, 12 November 2012 - 06:40 PM.

QUOTE (Golonka @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:12)
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Care to share how you do this? Looks like two or three clicks in Photoshop, but I have no idea.

I'm asking because quite a few other shots would benefit from this treatment...

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:18)
Can you use this to create the likely form of the map?

I think I can't, but I'm sure Fido_le_muet can... wink.gif

Also, take a look at this one. I'd still rather say it's all just smog, but...

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:39 PM

The 'Salton Sea' desert area seems to be right behind the Vinewood sign. user posted image

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 11:39)
The 'Salton Sea' desert area seems to be right behind the Vinewood sign. user posted image

If that would be true it would reduce the actual map size.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:43 PM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:40)
QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 11:39)
The 'Salton Sea' desert area seems to be right behind the Vinewood sign. user posted image

If that would be true it would reduce the actual map size.

Its still just a small part of the map we are seeing right here though.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:39)
The 'Salton Sea' desert area seems to be right behind the Vinewood sign. user posted image

Still skeptical... but good idea, either way.

In the bottom right image, you want this peak though:

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:43)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:40)
QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 11:39)
The 'Salton Sea' desert area seems to be right behind the Vinewood sign. user posted image

If that would be true it would reduce the actual map size.

Its still just a small part of the map we are seeing right here though.

No they arent the same. There will be alot mountains so dont assume every monutain you see is the same

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

I imagine the Alamo area is south east of Los Santos not north, in keeping with their real life counterparts and natural geography.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (BoolCaX @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:47)
QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:43)
QUOTE (Raavi @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:40)
QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 11:39)
The 'Salton Sea' desert area seems to be right behind the Vinewood sign. user posted image

If that would be true it would reduce the actual map size.

Its still just a small part of the map we are seeing right here though.

No they arent the same. There will be alot mountains so dont assume every monutain you see is the same

Right, I stand corrected. The Lines I have drawn do not match up... But i am sure that is the same vicinity.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:01 PM

I am sure that there is not only the desert area with this lake and mountains,... What about woods? Is there any chance that there are woods in GTA V? What is it like in real life around LA? Also we have not yet seen the windmill area or the area with the rocky river (train bridge pic) or the area of trailer 1 where the plane scratches the heads of the workers between the vines,...

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE (FRA1Z3R @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 12:39)
The 'Salton Sea' desert area seems to be right behind the Vinewood sign. user posted image

No, they don't match.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (philley @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 19:01)
I am sure that there is not only the desert area with this lake and mountains,... What about woods? Is there any chance that there are woods in GTA V? What is it like in real life around LA? Also we have not yet seen the windmill area or the area with the rocky river (train bridge pic) or the area of trailer 1 where the plane scratches the heads of the workers between the vines,...

There are plenty of forests surrounding LA.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (philley @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 19:01)
I am sure that there is not only the desert area with this lake and mountains,... What about woods? Is there any chance that there are woods in GTA V? What is it like in real life around LA? Also we have not yet seen the windmill area or the area with the rocky river (train bridge pic) or the area of trailer 1 where the plane scratches the heads of the workers between the vines,...

There are some forests around IRL LA, to the north in the San Gabriel Mountains, and around Frazier Park where the Sierra Pelonas, the San Emigdios, and the Tahachapis mountains meet.

They are about an hour's drive from downtown LA, depending on traffic conditions. If R* has a freeway resembling the 5 in-game, it would likely at some point go through the Tejon Pass, where you'd encounter some good forests.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

Time to draw some more straight lines:

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:25 PM

QUOTE (doubled @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 19:24)
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SNIP

Looks good. Very much that the Zancudo River will be near what I assume is the Alamo Sea.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:33 PM

Wooooww these buildings far a far away.. gossh this city is gonna be huge! ( there is LAX btw )
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:43 PM Edited by lxr, 12 November 2012 - 07:49 PM.

QUOTE (Malle324 @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 16:41)
QUOTE (lxr @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 18:03)
QUOTE (Malle324 @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 15:52)
Wow u got it! Anyway that industrial zone amazed me, some new factories and stuff we didnt see in IV I guess.. yes.. there were also in Broker, but this looks like massive industry and it's still alive..

Actually, the industrial area in South Alderney (New Jersey) was quite big. But what amazes me is the increased drawing distance. There was no way in IV to see so much of the city in one shot, and the evening smog makes it all look really good.

See this for comparison (LC, looking west, rendered using elevation data, click for full size):

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Yea man, I forgot about that biggrin.gif yes u're right. But still thinking there will be bigger one than in LC

.. where did u get this LC pic?

You can script the GTA IV PC Version. This map (click to enlarge) was done the same way:

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Basically, you divide the map in 54 x 36 areas of 100 x 100 meters each. Then you drop the player in the center of the first area, from high up in the sky, take 100 x 100 elevation samples, and move on to the next zone. Fully automated elevation survey, definitely the most constructive thing I've ever done as Niko Bellic... wink.gif

Once you have that data, almost 20 million values, pick the programming language of your choice, in this case Python, and you can plot a lot of stuff.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (doubled @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 19:24)
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that's really nice find wink.gif

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (Malle324 @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 19:33)
Wooooww these buildings far a far away.. gossh this city is gonna be huge! ( there is LAX btw )

If the thing you think is LAX is really LAX, then a lot of folks are going to crash into the US Bank Tower. I hope it's just some canal, or a glitch.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (mawerick_mc @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 19:55)
QUOTE (doubled @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 19:24)
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that's really nice find wink.gif

yeah man nice one. Id say your spot on with that

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:59 PM Edited by PostMeridian, 12 November 2012 - 08:16 PM.

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I have found something that adds weight to the theory that the Salton Sea-based area is, as geographically incorrect as it may be, next to Mount Chiliad.

From a new GTA article on multiplayer.it (translated): "Alamo Sea is the name of the salt sea in California, in the background of the desert around the lake you can see Mount Chiliad".

My Italian isn't great though, so perhaps my translation is a little off. The large mountain seen in numerous screenshots might not even be Chiliad either, as the peak it is based on, Mount Diablo, is actually in North Cali.

There is also another excerpt from the article of relevance to this thread: "The map is 3 times larger than RDR, if you count the sea (explorable) it's 5 times".

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:19 PM Edited by Fido_le_muet, 12 November 2012 - 08:33 PM.

Well, back to work.
Great new shots.
Great finds about the Liquor Store, the link between the Zancudo shot and the new Salton sea shot.
I'm quite please to see that Pershing Square is right where I put it on my map blush.gif
I'm off to analyse !

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:00 PM

I cant wait to see what your maps will look like after the second trailer is released. You guys definitely put tons of hard work into this thread and its greatly appreciated and quite enjoyable to read through.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (keybladekyle @ Wednesday, Nov 7 2012, 13:31)
Oh wait! I think thats a train tunnel! biggrin.gif . the bridge in the second shot is a train bridge and the road leading up to the tunnel in the first shot is actually a train track. So that would mean that the Zancudo river curves around the mountain and goes down the waterfall under the bridge. biggrin.gif (would be easier if i could make a diagram.)

Haha, looks like i was right about the train tunnel.

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There are some really killer new screens out. I won't be surprised if Rockstar just give us a map soon biggrin.gif

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE (keybladekyle @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 21:10)
There are some really killer new screens out. I won't be surprised if Rockstar just give us a map soon biggrin.gif

I hope not, it would be boring. happy.gif

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE (lxr @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 11:03)
QUOTE (Malle324 @ Monday, Nov 12 2012, 15:52)
Wow u got it! Anyway that industrial zone amazed me, some new factories and stuff we didnt see in IV I guess.. yes.. there were also in Broker, but this looks like massive industry and it's still alive..

Actually, the industrial area in South Alderney (New Jersey) was quite big. But what amazes me is the increased drawing distance. There was no way in IV to see so much of the city in one shot, and the evening smog makes it all look really good.

See this for comparison (LC, looking west, rendered using elevation data, click for full size):

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ypP5b.png[IMG]

This is what the cities would look like together if the Bank Tower was right next to the Chrysler Building:

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:26 PM

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:40 PM

I don't think your red line is correct, they don't match in both screenshots, it should be a bit more to the right on the bottom screenshot (outside the screenshot).
The red line as you have draw it in the first screenshot is, i believe, this part: http://media.gtanet....fullsize/11.jpg




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