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Posted 07 March 2016 - 07:25 PM

so I noticed the name on the back of beta Kendls jersey said brown and something clicked inside my head. the jersey is based on the Oakland Raiders jersey and the Number & name are in reference to Tim Brown who was #81. which brings up the question of was it removed to avoid a possible lawsuit over copyright or because Rockstar didnt want to bring any real world connections into the game?

 

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 11:01 PM

This is the Appreciation Thread for a vehicle that should've had an appreciation thread all along.

The glorious RC Cam.

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So yeah, RC Cam.

If you don't know it, you don't know much. This vehicle is THE vehicle of choice for the majority of GTA SA players. To be honest rockstar made a mistake not letting this baby into the normal version of SA (without having to use trainers to spawn it)

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 05:24 PM

First of all, i'm sorry for posting this topic, i know that there are tons of topics like this. nvm. I found some good screens from early version of the game in gta_int.img file.. Screens are on magazines.

 

 

First screen isn't interesting.. It's simple screen from the game, but with exactly same timecyc like in Vice City.

 

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On second screen, there's an unseen interior of some restaurant(?). And little bit upper, instead of Los Santos it's LAS Santos ?? Maybe typing error ? Or Los Santos beta name  ?

 

 

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On third screen there's 3 screenshots from the game. It's Las Venturas , but nvm. Look at the hud.. Hud was a bit weird... Looks like Wanted Level stars were always showed (like in Vice City), and look color of the money, it's more like cyan, or i'm blind ? And looks like the health bar was different shaped. More like rounded square  ?

 

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Finds aren't interesting.. I know... RIP English.. i know.. But nvm. Here you go.. I hope i found something new.


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Posted 09 May 2016 - 03:36 PM

First of all, i'm sorry for posting this topic, i know that there are tons of topics like this. nvm. I found some good screens from early version of the game in gta_int.img file.. Screens are on magazines.
 
 
First screen isn't interesting.. It's simple screen from the game, but with exactly same timecyc like in Vice City.
 
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On second screen, there's an unseen interior of some restaurant(?). And little bit upper, instead of Los Santos it's LAS Santos ?? Maybe typing error ? Or Los Santos beta name  ?
 
 
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On third screen there's 3 screenshots from the game. It's Las Venturas , but nvm. Look at the hud.. Hud was a bit weird... Looks like Wanted Level stars were always showed (like in Vice City), and look color of the money, it's more like cyan, or i'm blind ? And looks like the health bar was different shaped. More like rounded square  ?
 
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Finds aren't interesting.. I know... RIP English.. i know.. But nvm. Here you go.. I hope i found something new.

perhaps it's just me, but these images require a telescope to view them.

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#305

Posted 09 May 2016 - 04:35 PM

perhaps it's just me, but these images require a telescope to view them.

Two methods you might use.
1. Click on the image.
2. Hold [CTRL} and roll the mouse wheel.
3. Combination of 1 & 2.
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#306

Posted 11 May 2016 - 02:02 PM

Nice find btw it´s sad that these songs got cut.


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#307

Posted 11 May 2016 - 02:14 PM

One of K-DST's radio bumpers features a part of a cut song, don't remember which one right now.

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#308

Posted 3 weeks ago

I'll just leave it here.

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#309

Posted 3 weeks ago

I'll just leave it here.
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#310

Posted 3 weeks ago

I guess because some of the lines weren't used, like 'How. How'd she die?'


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Posted 3 weeks ago

I guess because some of the lines weren't used, like 'How. How'd she die?'

You're right, there are many unused lines, such as "I didn't tell you to face me, boy", or already mentioned "How. How'd she die?"


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Posted 2 weeks ago

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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Lolzz, 2 weeks ago.

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This is VWFYCRP, which decrypts as Vegas, White, Female, Young, Croupier. This ped is croupier, working at casinos in Las Venturas. There is unused ped ingame with very similar ID, WFYCRP:

 

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As you see, she has been dropped very early, since her texture is very cartoonish.Her ID isn't listed anywhere in peds.ide, or pedgrp.dat Lack of letter V (Vegas} or S (San Francisco) in front of her ID - WFYCRP - means, that she was meant to appear in Los Santos, which is odd, since there are no casinos in LS. Anyway, her appearance is very similar to another ped, WMYVA, which decrypts as White, Male, Young, Valet:

 

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Conclusion - Rockstar was planning to add casinos to LS, or alternative female croupier (since there is male croupier ingame), or female valet, according to this ped appearance. At last, they dropped her completely.

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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Lolzz, 2 weeks ago.

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Looks like they cut something from every mission. I dunno if voice files are still there.

 

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Actual Fish in a Barrel mission.

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Posted A week ago Edited by lil weasel, A week ago.

EDIT: << New topic merged into existing topic of beta finds >>

 

I have watched this one video of recereating San Andreas first mission in GTA V (HERE) and what struck me, at 7:28 Big Smoke says this:

"Man you gotta lose some of that Liberty City anxiety, Playa." before saying "Just drop in. We all hangin' out."

I have never seen or heard that first line EVER said by him anywhere in the game, especially in that moment (after escaping from ballas). Then I dug up some more and found THIS VIDEO and here he says this sentence too, only AFTER saying "Just drop in" part. And this is not GTA V, but a modded San Andreas. So I dug into this even more and found THIS SITE and IDK what that really is (like a blog or something?), but it has "subtitles" below the video (which is unortunately taken down now) and these subtitles clearly differ from the game that I have played, I will put them here and mark those altered/new sentences:

 

(I put it in spoilers because it's a long quote, you don't have to read everything to get what I want to say, just read bold, red sentences.)

 

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Now, what the hell is this all about? I doubt these subtitles are "fake" or "fabricated" because this guy put the sentence I was talking about (LC anxiety) in it, so he knew something else? Did he have like a beta version or something? What is this all about? Some of the marked sentences may only appear if you fall down with CJ on a bike, or don't keep up with your pals, I never got them but maybe that's what you have to do. Also - at first I thought that the Tenpenny / CJ bit was a mix of two scenes - 1st when carl gets into their car and 2nd when they drive him to ballas' turf, but it seems that at first it was one, single scene which actually makes sense (the taxi was stopped near ballas turf). Also - in the recreation of this mission video of GTA 5 (the one I put here), they showed this scene exactly like everything is happening in one scene, if you catch my drift. So what is this all about? Some early versions of the game? Secret scenes/lines?

Edit: Now I noticed that in the recreation (GTA 5) video I put here, the quote from this guy's "subtitles" page is really there. HERE is the part of that video and I'm talking about and the sentence is:

"See, hernande, that is how an  experienced officer deals with a known threat."
So how did the guy doing this video knew about it? I feel kinda strange and dizzy now, like I came from another dimension o.O

Edit 2: Even the bit after ballas do drive-by at sementery is different, they don't get bikes instantly, they run quite long to get them, they chit chat before they get to those bikes (which is all completely different to what is in game) and there are also a couple of quotes that I never heard in game but that are in the "subtitles" above (like "How we getting home?").


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#316

Posted A week ago Edited by Lolzz, A week ago.

Did you even see my last posts in this thread? All these lines you mentioned are ingame, not sure about every recorded. Just hidden and unused, that's all.


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Posted A week ago

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This skin was originally going to appear in the streets as a mafia member (Sindacco/Forelli mafia), but it was "removed" and it doesn't make any apparition, you can still use it through a mod or something.


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Posted A week ago

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This skin was originally going to appear in the streets as a mafia member (Sindacco/Forelli mafia), but it was "removed" and it doesn't make any apparition, you can still use it through a mod or something.

Actually, he's from russian mafia.


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Posted A week ago

Did you even see my last posts in this thread? All these lines you mentioned are ingame, not sure about every recorded. Just hidden and unused, that's all.

I didn't even knew about this thread. I posted this post in a new thread in main San Andreas forum and mod put it HERE.

And even though you did mention something like that, I actualy brought some new info to this topic (like actual recordings and some more quotes than you) so it's all fair I think (except for the fact that my post still sounds like it was just uncovered, but it's because that was a totally new thread as I mentioned above). Still... unused or not, they were recorded which means they were meant to be used (and IDK how did those people got those lines), so the beginning was a little bit different.

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Posted A week ago

 

Did you even see my last posts in this thread? All these lines you mentioned are ingame, not sure about every recorded. Just hidden and unused, that's all.

I didn't even knew about this thread. I posted this post in a new thread in main San Andreas forum and mod put it HERE.

And even though you did mention something like that, I actualy brought some new info to this topic (like actual recordings and some more quotes than you) so it's all fair I think (except for the fact that my post still sounds like it was just uncovered, but it's because that was a totally new thread as I mentioned above). Still... unused or not, they were recorded which means they were meant to be used (and IDK how did those people got those lines), so the beginning was a little bit different.

 

Oh, okay, I didn't knew that you made new topic. Not every lines that you mentioned were recorded, because their audios don't exist in files. The one who did this site, that you mentioned, I mean: https://fantasticsiu...reas-mission-1/, probably took them from american.gxt. Though lines "You gotta lose some of that Liberty anxiety" or "No sh*t! How we gettin' home?" and characters mentioning falling CJ from bike or getting too ahead exist recorded in game files, they were used by DeeZire in his TTDISA mod. Author of this film:  https://www.youtube....=youtu.be&t=651 even mentions it in description. Link to modification, if you're curious: http://gtaforums.com...in-san-andreas/


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Posted A week ago

 

 

Did you even see my last posts in this thread? All these lines you mentioned are ingame, not sure about every recorded. Just hidden and unused, that's all.

I didn't even knew about this thread. I posted this post in a new thread in main San Andreas forum and mod put it HERE.

And even though you did mention something like that, I actualy brought some new info to this topic (like actual recordings and some more quotes than you) so it's all fair I think (except for the fact that my post still sounds like it was just uncovered, but it's because that was a totally new thread as I mentioned above). Still... unused or not, they were recorded which means they were meant to be used (and IDK how did those people got those lines), so the beginning was a little bit different.

 

Oh, okay, I didn't knew that you made new topic. Not every lines that you mentioned were recorded, because their audios don't exist in files. The one who did this site, that you mentioned, I mean: https://fantasticsiu...reas-mission-1/, probably took them from american.gxt. Though lines "You gotta lose some of that Liberty anxiety" or "No sh*t! How we gettin' home?" and characters mentioning falling CJ from bike or getting too ahead exist recorded in game files, they were used by DeeZire in his TTDISA mod. Author of this film:  https://www.youtube....=youtu.be&t=651 even mentions it in description. Link to modification, if you're curious: http://gtaforums.com...in-san-andreas/

 

Nice, thanks, good to know that. I wonder why some lines were cut and it really seems like the mission was a little different - like you had to run to get your bicycle first, which I guess the guy recreating introduction in GTA 5 (which i linked to) knew about, and he did it that way, that it was originally supposed to be (because I recon 99,9999% of SA players remeber the introduction a little different, like it was in game).

I guess we will find more things about SA even 10 years ahead from today :D. I wonder if there were other missions altered like that (not talking about knows alterations like Doberman). And I just noticed you are Polish. Me too.


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Posted A week ago Edited by Lolzz, A week ago.

Good to know you are Polish too :D Yes, actually there are few more missions altered, for example player used helicopter in Photo Opportunity in beta. You was able to take photos from it, probably similar way to shooting M60 in Phnom Penh '86 in VC. There are even cut missions, Vadim M made video about them some time ago: https://m.youtube.co...h?v=P5SOm2S-jtw

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Posted A week ago Edited by Lordani66, A week ago.

Yes I knew about those for some time, but now I'm talking about those small changes that we just recently discovered, like you know, the extra few lines, the fact that you had to run first after Ballas did the drive-by on the cementary, etc. Maybe there are more of those, we'd have to look into american.gxt to see but that would take a lot of time :D. Anyways, let's not go off the topic too much. Just so that I add something to this topic with this post, I will say that one line of Tenpenny which was meant for the introduction, was actually used later, in last mission (I'm talking about "Don’t curse, carl, you motherf*cking piece of s*it gang-banging cocksucker." and it was shortened by "Don't curse", which in the new context was obcious). Maybe someone didn't know about that, and HERE'S THE VIDEO.


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Posted A week ago Edited by Lolzz, A week ago.

Yeah, I noticed reusing this line too. I posted up here text from introduction to Badlands, the cutscene after Green Sabre, there were originally few more lines too, looks like Tenpenny was waking up Carl, and someone mentioned somebody's wife . In case if you overlooked it :p




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