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#1

Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:19 PM

i dont get it.. everyone calls him a midget.. he doesn't even look that small compared to CJ or sweet.

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:40 PM

I thought so too. He certainly doesn't apprear short enough to be called a midget, unless the counterman was just egging him.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:33 PM Edited by lil weasel, 06 June 2011 - 08:04 PM.

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Jun 5 2011, 22:40)
I thought so too. He certainly doesn't apprear short enough to be called a midget, unless the counterman was just egging him.

no he was referring to his dad remember.?
I remember, "I feel sorry for your Dad..."
Thinking of it as being such a small guy (Ryder) would be a disapoointment to the man.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:08 PM

He did look kind of small.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:30 PM

It was just an exaggeration concerning the fact the he is shorter than most of the gang. Ryder is short though...

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:43 PM

I've always thought CJ was the short one.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE (Adler @ Jun 6 2011, 17:43)
I've always thought CJ was the short one.

He is. He's actually shorter than Ryder, and half the people in the game for that matter.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (UNRATED69 @ Jun 6 2011, 22:46)
QUOTE (Adler @ Jun 6 2011, 17:43)
I've always thought CJ was the short one.

He is. He's actually shorter than Ryder, and half the people in the game for that matter.

well no not that one midget in "Home On The Hills" mission (Were you take Madd Doggs mansion back by killing the Vagos).

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 06:41 AM

CJ is smaller than Ryder. Ken is smaller than CJ. Midgets are the people that Kendl is talking about.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 06:50 AM

what makes you say that.
CJ looks as tall or taller in... "Ryder", "Cleaning the Hood", "Home Invasion", "Catalyest' , and "Robbing Uncle Sam".
Compare their heights to nearby walls/vehicles.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:10 AM

I bump into Ryder during Cleaning the Hood, because I end up hating the Ballas very fast. And in the cleo-mod DYOM I create Ryder missions. Also I look at angles and distance. Ryder is a bit taller than CJ when I compare.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:14 AM Edited by M.A.K, 01 July 2011 - 07:27 AM.

Ryder was based on Eazy-E ,so was his height as Eazy was not to tall

look :
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Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:45 AM Edited by lil weasel, 01 July 2011 - 08:07 AM.

Nice story but Lance Wilson (Ryder) is MC Eiht.
Further "based on" doesn't cut it either, as These charactors in the Game are cartoons. So you will have to compare oranges to oranges.
Are you going to get a picture of MC Eiht and Young Maylay to prove which is taller?

I just ran the "Home Invasion" had Ryder and CJ stand next to each other then some Vargoe ran up. They were ALL the same height when standing up straight.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 09:20 AM

no i won't go that far ,but we can't deny that CJ is shorter than the 3 grove street gang members

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 02:13 PM

I agree. When I was doing the mission where the guy in Cluckin' Bell calls Ryder 'small' or whatever, I'm just like, "wtf? He's about the size of CJ".

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:03 AM

Rockstar without a doubt based Ryder on Eazy E. MC Eiht did Ryder's voice. Look on google graphics/pictures. MC Eiht ain't Ryder's model.

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:14 AM Edited by lil weasel, 02 July 2011 - 02:51 PM.

This isn't really the topic for argument;
Reference these:
Ryder, Look Alike.
Characters, that reference/spoof real people.
MC Eiht (Ryder) Picture

On Topic: I don't believe that the reference to Ryder being small has anything to do with his height. I've been thinking about the dialog and now that_guy2057_evilgrin.gif I have come to think it is the size of his 'parts' that they are refering to. that would be more of an insult, especially relating to his father.

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 07:13 PM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Saturday, Jul 2 2011, 03:14)
Nice story but Lance Wilson (Ryder) is MC Eiht.
Further "based on" doesn't cut it either, as These charactors in the Game are cartoons. So you will have to compare oranges to oranges.

....This isn't really the topic for argument;

Well then don't start the argument.

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Are you going to get a picture of MC Eiht and Young Maylay to prove which is taller?


YES!

MC EIHT and YOUNG LAYLAY

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 02:05 PM Edited by finn4life, 04 July 2011 - 02:09 PM.

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Friday, Jul 1 2011, 18:45)
Nice story but Lance Wilson (Ryder) is MC Eiht.
Further "based on" doesn't cut it either, as These charactors in the Game are cartoons. So you will have to compare oranges to oranges.
Are you going to get a picture of MC Eiht and Young Maylay to prove which is taller?

I just ran the "Home Invasion" had Ryder and CJ stand next to each other then some Vargoe ran up. They were ALL the same height when standing up straight.

I still think when Ryder was created they had Eazy E in mind, they look like exactly the same.

Isn't CJ pretty short as well, like 5'8?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 05:51 AM

I'd alwas thought Big-Smoke would be the smallest due to him eating so much & gaining wait & not height.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:27 AM

Ok. So people lets forget about the height and weight issues of the various NPCs. How much consideration will you give to the idea that the Pizza Clerk was making an obvious derogatory remark to Ryder concerning his and his fathers Penis. Ryders voice and body attitude is distinctive so the Clerk would know him, especially if he must have robbed the place before. Therefore the Clerk is trying to get a rise out of Ryder by calling him (his Penis) small and further digging him by saying his Pop has a small penis too.

What say you that?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:31 PM

I interpreted the Pizza Clerk's remark as belittling Ryder by pointing out that "no one else is that small." In other words, no one else would be desperate enough to rob a Pizza joint. Why he brought in Ryder's dad is vague to me.

It could have been a remark about the size of Ryder's genitalia, but I killed the Pizza Clerk so we'll never know. moto_whistle.gif

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:52 AM

@Lil-Weasel exactly how many times do you think he's robbed the pizza place.?

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 01:00 AM

It's a story line, and a Joke.
There is no way to tell, but clearly Ryder is Known to the staff.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 01:10 AM

indeed obviously he's robbed the pizza place so much that they all know Ryder.

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#26

Posted 20 July 2011 - 04:23 PM

Well, I guess my theory is wrong. As Tenpenny also calls Ryder a Midget during "Catalyist".

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#27

Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:36 PM

Hmm, I thought maybe the pizza guy meant small as in skinny or thin. But "Midget" usually only means one thing, short.

Eazy E was only 5'5, maybe Ryder was going to be small but then the animators messed up.




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