
Game of Thrones
#901
Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:01 AM
This piece especially hits all the right notes and I'll definitely have stuck in my head when I reread the books.
#902
Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:56 PM
#903
Posted 26 July 2013 - 10:49 PM
just do yourself a favor and avoid reading the books until the series is over

#904
Posted 27 July 2013 - 12:42 AM
#905
Posted 27 July 2013 - 12:49 AM
QUOTE (Voodoo @ Friday, Jul 26 2013, 15:42) |
That's good advice. Actually, just stay away from the book people as well. |
Too late, I'm here.

#907
Posted 27 July 2013 - 06:47 AM
I'm not hating on the books.
of course they're better than the show. that's usually how literature works.
but now that he's started watching the show first, he should avoid reading past it.
I have every intention of reading the novels when the show is finished.
#908
Posted 27 July 2013 - 10:23 AM
#909
Posted 27 July 2013 - 12:03 PM
#910
Posted 27 July 2013 - 04:38 PM
#911
Posted 27 July 2013 - 07:50 PM
#912
Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:22 PM
#913
Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:26 PM

#914
Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:56 PM


Good advice from Jedi too, avoid youtube comments like the Plague.
Just a general question, who has beeneveryone's favourite character so far in the show? Ned? John? Davos? The Hound? Arya? Tyrion?
#915
Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:09 PM Edited by darthYENIK, 27 July 2013 - 09:11 PM.
I wish I hadn't watched the first season before I read the book. Although I was blown away by Ned's death, I would have rather read it first.
#916
Posted 27 July 2013 - 10:01 PM
QUOTE (ajbns87 @ Saturday, Jul 27 2013, 11:56) |
Just a general question, who has beeneveryone's favourite character so far in the show? Ned? John? Davos? The Hound? Arya? Tyrion? |
Such a tough question to answer, as the show specializes in making sure most characters have faults to balance out their good qualities and vice versa.
Jamie Lannister is so interesting I can't help but place him as my favorite. Reviled as the Kingslayer in the eyes of Westeros, the audience knows a more honorable side (despite his attempted murder of 10 year old in the 1st episode). I can't wait to see how the show handles his character.
Honorable mention goes to Ned Stark, who really helped make the 1st Season and the character that got me into the series. One of like, 5 good guys in Westeros.
#917
Posted 27 July 2013 - 11:16 PM
Every character has a good and a bad side. Jaime being the perfect example as outlined above: he's gone through a real redemption arc and become less of a dick both as we learn more about him and as he grows as a person, but he did throw a child out a window to protect the incestuous relationship he was having with his married sister. Then you have Cersei herself. On the surface, she's a real bitch with no redeeming qualities, but if you look at why she's like that she's pretty sympathetic. She's the only Lannister child who really follows (or rather, followed) Tywin's path of doing what's best for the family, but has constantly been downtrodden just because she's a woman and only treated as a possession. She's just doing anything she can to cling to any shred of power that should, rightfully in her eyes, be in her hands.
I'm the same even with people like Theon. I was saying this just yesterday to the aforementioned book receiver actually, but even though he sacked the home of the protagonist* family and murdered two young boys, I can kinda see where he's coming from. Essentially sold off by his father as a peace offering to the family of a sworn enemy, he was treated well enough but always reminded that he was not part of the family despite being treated like one. That's gonna f*ck with your head and your ideas of what "family" really is. Then when he returns to his actual family he's treated with disdain and mistrust, so he does everything he can to try and appease his father and get his really family back good and proper. Eh, maybe I can just relate to the whole daddy issues thing, but I might not like him for it but I can understand why he did everything.
Westeros seems to punish those who are wholly virtuous, see: Ned Stark. Doesn't bode well for the righteous Daeny when she finally turns up.
My favourite story arc has to be the whole Red God thing though. The whole thing with magic returning to the world and a god legitimately, provably existing is cool as sh*t.
*As close as you get with such an ensemble cast.
#918
Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:10 AM
QUOTE (TEoS @ Saturday, Jul 27 2013, 14:26) |
Just read the books guys |
no!
you can't tell me what to do!
I'll read them when the show is over and that's that

#919
Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:56 AM
QUOTE (orbitalraindrops @ Saturday, Jul 27 2013, 13:03) |
If you read the books first then watch the show your disappointed because so much stuff was left out |
Not true. I'm excited as f*ck for the show. I was sh*tting my pants with excitement for the Red Wedding for months before Season 3 started even though I knew it was going to happen, and f*ck, it did not disappoint. It hit me just as hard as the book, if not harder due to Robb having far more character and time.
Then there's Talisa. In the book Robb had a different wife who didn't show up to the Frey's wedding. I noticed they'd changed this going into Season 2 but didn't think anything of it. That is, until I watched The Rains of Castamere and saw that she was at the wedding. My heart f*cking sank as soon as I realized what was going to happen, and then the there was the announcement of baby Eddard followed shortly by that brutal scene. I died inside.
Michelle Fairley also really nailed the scene a lot better than I did in my head when I read it.
#920
Posted 28 July 2013 - 12:25 PM
But above all, for me, is Tyrion. Righteous, clever, hilarious and one of the few characters whose actions seem driven by love and empathy, not greed for power or gold. The plotline with her and Shae brings great diversity into the series and is a good reminder of what an important factor love is in the series deep down. All that and Peter Dinklage's amazing acting and brilliant lines, always.
#921
Posted 28 July 2013 - 12:43 PM
Really summarizes one of the great themes of the series.
Edit: I only just now realized that Martin and Tolkien share 4 letter, double RR initials.
#922
Posted 28 July 2013 - 01:16 PM
QUOTE (TEoS @ Sunday, Jul 28 2013, 07:43) |
Edit: I only just now realized that Martin and Tolkien share 4 letter, double RR initials. |
Coincidence? I wonder...
#923
Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:46 AM
obviously it's just a coincidence that the initials work out the way they do.
JRR Tolkien
GRR Martin
but since they do, I thought that writing them in that order was his intention.
he could have gone with any other order. he could have made up a nom de plume just as well.
#924
Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:02 PM
Now introduce the TV series and we can clearly see that he takes Eddard Stark's role midway through the second season, he becomes the protagonist of the storyline because the viewers are behind him, they want him to win and they want the Lannisters to lose. He becomes the character he never could be in the books, he becomes a protagonist because we get to see what he thinks firsthand rather than having an outsider's look on things all the time we really see who Robb Stark is, how he forms relationships, what makes him laugh and cry and as a result we the audience form a bond with him closer than we could have in the books.
The show also seems to have a way of unwinding the viewer, making them realise what sections are more fun loving and present no real danger, so when the Red Wedding aired the general atmosphere surrounding the show at that point was one of peacefulness for those who haven't read the books and one of eerie suspension for the ones who have. The way that the show pulls this massive twist on you faster than Clint Eastwood in a shootout is testament to just how well the writers and directors did their jobs here, the way that they calm you down only to stab you in the back viciously and violently is an absolutely brilliant yet cruel thing to do to your audience.
Then there's the obvious fact that we never leave Robb's side. He's present in every episode of every season, the character doesn't just vanish from season only to then reappear in the next, no due to the nature of GoT's timeline Robb's story runs along side many of the others happening in Westeros allowing us to spend more time with him and for us not to become out of touch with his endeavors. All of this builds up to the audience having a stronger connection with not only him, but also the war he's fighting and just how dramatically it all comes to a close.
#926
Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:41 PM
#927
Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:13 PM
QUOTE (Cheat @ Tuesday, Jul 30 2013, 22:41) |
Yeah, I loved how they changed the atmosphere right before the killing itself began (@1:05 here). There's a long shot with the door being closed and making a huge noise, then bam, for a split second, complete silence and then the melancholy music. |
The moment that The Rains of Castamere started playing I knew what was coming, the darkness started seeping into the scene, slowly but surely I could feel the unease growing inside me.
#928
Posted 07 October 2013 - 03:47 PM Edited by Carbine23, 07 October 2013 - 03:50 PM.
So, i decided to read the 3rd book, Storm of Swords. Yes i know i skipped the first two but i heard the first two are similar to the series and the 3rd is the most different so far. Let me just say holy sh*t. the 4th season's adapted from the 2nd half of Storm of Swords and it's going to be wild. VERY WILD.
@Lightning Strike - BOOKSPOILER
#929
Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:35 PM
I mom started watching the show. She's one of those people who asks what's going to happen. Constantly happening when she's watching. And she knows I read the books, so she's constantly asking me if "the Dragon queen" is going to die.
#930
Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:11 PM
I mom started watching the show. She's one of those people who asks what's going to happen. Constantly happening when she's watching. And she knows I read the books, so she's constantly asking me if "the Dragon queen" is going to die.
As someone who hasn't read the books it's pretty clear Daeny is gonna live for a while at least. She's got major plot armour. This is a story mainly about Westeros, and of Ice and Fire (where she is literally the embodiment of fire). So it's pretty clear she's gonna be alive at least until she gets to Westeros and/or encounters the White Walkers.
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