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Posted 09 August 2015 - 09:25 PM

I doubt that the Leones could kill a dude who broke into the army base and stole a jetpack that costs billions, broke into an army ship and stole a fighter jet and wiped out every rival gang in Los Santos.

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Posted 09 August 2015 - 09:28 PM Edited by Xing of Virtue, 30 August 2015 - 09:08 PM.

After watching the deaths of Victor, Johnny, Michael, and Trevor, I begin to doubt if CJ could even survive a slap to the face.


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Posted 09 August 2015 - 10:37 PM Edited by Phoenix_Poop, 09 August 2015 - 10:37 PM.

I don't think this thread is needed. Besides, there is already one discussing the same topic: 

 

http://gtaforums.com...son-get-killed/

 

 

In the end, it's up to the player on what happens to the protagonists after their story ends (except vic and Johnny so far) If CJ died to you, then he is dead. If he is still alive, then, well.... He is still alive. Simple as that. 


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:39 AM

Well CJ is basically the one who owns San Andreas. I believe that if people were sent after CJ, he was able to take care of them. After all, CJ did the unthinkable like breaking into an army base and stealing a jetpack. But in the end, it's up to the player on what happened, and the same goes for almost all the protagonists in the series.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 08:25 AM

Pretty much what GamesBoy316 said.
There is no way Sal would have the balls to even think about killing someone who owns the entire state San Andreas, and then escape scratch free from the consequences as well. Any smart ass would rather kill CJ outside the territory where CJ is more safe than for him to escape unharm afterwards.
If CJ ever left SA then I guess chances are that Sal might be able to get a shot but otherwise NO.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:52 AM

No, no, no, and once again NO! f*ck the Leones, their the worst gang of the whole series, Jeez. It's not possible for those weak pricks to do such thing. CJ either lived a happy life in SA after or he coulda been killed by some Ballas that survived and seeked revenge.


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 05:42 AM

Given the fact that a guy like Claude managed to kill Salvatore on his home turf, it's laughable to think he'd be able to kill CJ. Sure, he might have sent some thugs CJ's way, but nothing CJ couldn't handle. He owned SA at the end, with his homies and other allied gangs to back him up if needed. Not that he'd need backup to face a bunch of thugs anyway.
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 08:19 AM

that aint true cj did not die 


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Posted 16 August 2015 - 01:19 PM

Sal couldn't really care about CJ by the end of the story, he robbed his casino which was also shared with the Sindaccos, he also did some favours for him, Sal could send goons after CJ but R* didn't include it.

 

with his homies and other allied gangs to back him up if needed. Not that he'd need backup to face a bunch of thugs anyway.

He doesn't need backup since those GSF members who you can recruit are useless!


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Posted 30 August 2015 - 09:02 PM

No. I think the only dead guy is Vic


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:20 PM Edited by lil weasel, 26 July 2016 - 05:03 PM. merged.

EDIT: << merged new topic into existing topic >>

What do you think happened after the events of GTA SA for CJ and the rest of the Grove Street families? Assuming that GTA SA and GTA 5 were set in the same universe, (which they aren't) I would say that eventually Grove street victorious for about year after the riots. But later on in late 1993 or early 1994 the Ballas come back in major force. Kills many of the Grove street homies and forces the rest to retreat or relocate. CJ and Sweet either are killed in the defense of Grove street or CJ finally learns a major lesson in life and figures out that the gang sh*t ain't worth anything and Sweet's been trying to drag him down with him. As if the hood is the only thing that matters when CJ can see the bigger picture now. He likely gives up on GSF for good and if Sweet's smart enough he will too. But likely he sticks to the Grove and dies in a Balla drive by at the age of 28. Afterwards the Groves recooperate in a different hood and eventually switch to selling drugs to make major dough.
 
I think maybe CJ in this scenario was a bit more well off than Vercetti in most cases. I think Even at some point their businesses would intersect with one another and they either become friends or become bitter hateful enemies. 
 
Anyway what do you guys think?


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:45 PM

Nah, CJ wont give up on GSF. Why should he? GSF rules LS after taking over all the territories which means better business opportunities and better life for homies. And No. CJ wont switch to selling drugs either because one of the main premises of the story was getting crack, crackheads, and crack dealers out of LS and that would all be undone which doesn't make sense.

At the end of the game CJ owns several assets, properties, contacts and businesses' and the loyal gang besides him in LS, owns casino in LV, as well as the amazing jetpack.
I can't really think anything else for such a successful and wealthy man other than only enjoying a lavish, and powerful lifestyle as the kingpin of SA.
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Posted 26 July 2016 - 02:02 PM

Nah, CJ wont give up on GSF. Why should he? GSF rules LS after taking over all the territories which means better business opportunities and better life for homies. And No. CJ wont switch to selling drugs either because one of the main premises of the story was getting crack, crackheads, and crack dealers out of LS and that would all be undone which doesn't make sense.

At the end of the game CJ owns several assets, properties, contacts and businesses' and the loyal gang besides him in LS, owns casino in LV, as well as the amazing jetpack.
I can't really think anything else for such a successful and wealthy man other than only enjoying a lavish, and powerful lifestyle as the kingpin of SA.

Well that makes plenty of sense for its own timeline. In the 3D universe. Mine kinda went on "If the HD and 3D universe were connected" kind of theory.


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 09:39 AM Edited by Osho, 27 July 2016 - 09:42 AM.

If the HD and 3D universe were connected then all ( or some ) of the things that CJ did would be undone and the Los Santos in V seems to have undergone many changes including the presence of rival gangs, Ballas and Vagos in Los Santos. I think CJ might be dead and the closest hint I found is - Who was the "made man" Toni killed?
I have never played LCS and based on the discussions in the linked topic, its quite an interesting theory and presents the player another interpretation of the 3D GTA universe. There are also more theories related to Toni / Carl in this thread itself to read, as well.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 09:59 AM

I think,Toni killed him because he robbed casino of Salvatore leone during ‘Breaking the Bank at Caligula s’.What you think,Guys
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Posted 27 July 2016 - 01:39 PM

Nah, CJ wont give up on GSF. Why should he? GSF rules LS after taking over all the territories which means better business opportunities and better life for homies. And No. CJ wont switch to selling drugs either because one of the main premises of the story was getting crack, crackheads, and crack dealers out of LS and that would all be undone which doesn't make sense.

At the end of the game CJ owns several assets, properties, contacts and businesses' and the loyal gang besides him in LS, owns casino in LV, as well as the amazing jetpack.
I can't really think anything else for such a successful and wealthy man other than only enjoying a lavish, and powerful lifestyle as the kingpin of SA.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 02:50 PM

Or he got whacked by Tony Cipriani, which is the reason he had to lay low, because of pissed off Grove Street dudes and Triads :p

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 05:31 PM

Or he got whacked by Tony Cipriani, which is the reason he had to lay low, because of pissed off Grove Street dudes and Triads :p

That would actually be a reasonable theory. But I don't think he was a made man by mafia standards. Maybe by his own though.


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Posted 28 July 2016 - 04:53 AM Edited by HolyGrenadeFrenzy, 28 July 2016 - 04:54 AM.

I don't know how many of you have studied literature or The Great Conversation and it's required study in The Seven Liberal Arts, yet The Dante Method teaches us much and further more in it's original choice of topic and positin within The Divine Comedy.

 

It seems quite plausible that all of the protagonists within all of the GTA Universes are dead....and in Hell without realizing it.  The peds and radio stations insinuate this regularly.  The all die and show up at the hospital...fixed and diminished perhaps yet still alive yet this is not the same as living, in traditional high english that is.

 

They would all have to have died previous to the beginning of the game, as played, of course.  Look at their tiny worlds.  Ever notice that many of the peds you kill look the same; over and over and over again?  Ever listen to them talking about This Being Hell, or perhaps about selling their souls?  Lots of symbolism and gaming issues allow for this conclusion in each story line.  In this one check out the first mission at the cemetary and pay attention for instance.

 

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Yeah, they are all dead.....from before the beginning of the game.  If they die again and go off to a worse section or better section then it might be purgatory or some other plane they are on and there are worse versions for eternity for some.  This is not my theory, it is clear to those who educate themselves and it has been discussed before all over the web.

 

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 06:41 PM

Rockstar admired that it was just a joke no he isn't dead I think that rockstar put it on there because CJ used to live in Liberty City and that was probably his friends saying that they missed him because he moved to SA
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Posted 07 August 2016 - 05:03 PM

Well...does anyone remember CJ killed Marco Forelli and scared Johnny Sindacco to death but they didn't kill him, so that's why the Leones didn't him.
AND if they REALLY killed CJ there will be a huge war between the Leones and CJ's friends (just like WWI)
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Here's a list of the gangs on both sides
CJ's side: VS Leones
-GSF
-Cesar
-SF Triads
-LC Triads
-Varrios Los Aztecas
-(perhaps) VC Triads
AND why did Sal leave LV if he killed the guy who robbed his casino? Plus in LCS we know the Sindaccos control the casino, so that means CJ IS ALIVE!

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 07:29 PM

Or he got whacked by Tony Cipriani, which is the reason he had to lay low, because of pissed off Grove Street dudes and Triads :p

That would actually be a reasonable theory. But I don't think he was a made man by mafia standards. Maybe by his own though.
Why you think that. Leones for sure figured aut that he is a number two in GSF. Gang who in the end of 1992 control the entire Los Santos and have allies in SF. Isn't that enought to be called made man?

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 07:33 PM

CJ is either following some damn trains, or he got clapped by...

 

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:44 AM

CJ is either following some damn trains, or he got clapped by...
 
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Toni is not badass,Tommy is very badass then Cipriani,Also,CJ s kill is a mystery,R* should discover it in next gta

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 02:40 PM Edited by Bananasean, 11 August 2016 - 02:49 PM.

I don't think a few Leone hitmen with Tec-9s could overcome hundreds of GSF members with MP5s and guards with M4s. Don't forget that CJ has a hunter and a hydra!
PS CJ is an African American so he couldn't be made. STOP SAYING THINGS LIKE "HE MADE IT".
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Posted 11 August 2016 - 02:45 PM

Exactly,I am trying to say that,It is possible that CJ left Los Santos and went to any europe state or any African State.Leones are not too weak,They are strong too.Cuz in gta iii,They waste and chase Claude by Shotgun

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 02:52 PM Edited by Bananasean, 11 August 2016 - 02:55 PM.

Maybe. He's Mad Dogg's manager so CJ might follow him around the world and got blown up in Congo.

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 04:26 PM

It is completely mystery :)

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:52 PM

 

Nah, CJ wont give up on GSF. Why should he? GSF rules LS after taking over all the territories which means better business opportunities and better life for homies. And No. CJ wont switch to selling drugs either because one of the main premises of the story was getting crack, crackheads, and crack dealers out of LS and that would all be undone which doesn't make sense.

At the end of the game CJ owns several assets, properties, contacts and businesses' and the loyal gang besides him in LS, owns casino in LV, as well as the amazing jetpack.
I can't really think anything else for such a successful and wealthy man other than only enjoying a lavish, and powerful lifestyle as the kingpin of SA.

Catalina came back and made him his bitch again

 

Catalina is dead, so...


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Posted 12 August 2016 - 07:48 AM

I don't think a few Leone hitmen with Tec-9s could overcome hundreds of GSF members with MP5s and guards with M4s. Don't forget that CJ has a hunter and a hydra!
PS CJ is an African American so he couldn't be made. STOP SAYING THINGS LIKE "HE MADE IT".

Firstly I have never seen Leones with Tec-9. They only waepons are piostol and very powerful shotgun. And I don't remember Cj bodyguards in Sa so how can you say anything about their equipment. Strange...
Do you know anything about GSF hierarchy? Becouse I and Leones don't. He was a brother of Sweet and the second biggest person in gang so made man term fits perfectly on him.




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