Since there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding regarding the bold yellow text which can be read on top of this very page, I had the idea to make things painfully oversimplified. In fact, some of you may be even offended that someone would dare address them in such fashion, but please keep in mind - YOU are the one who can't spot big fat yellow text, this is the only reason as to why you have been directed to this thread.
So, to analyze a bit. For the first part of the yellow warning message
Modding question/problem? Post in one of these forums
The first statement says that this troubleshooting board dedicated to GTAIV is aimed ONLY at unmodified game installs of GTAIV and EFLC, be it the standalone or the addon version.
The reason for this is both simple and true
all modifications to the game files are unofficial, probably lack testing and are made by people who usually use third party (that is unofficial) tools
By no means does this mean that people who make mods are incompetent, the opposite is the truth obviously, but the fact is their time and funding is limited, there are quite a lot game versions out there and it's simply very hard to keep track of everything.
Due to the nature of modding, which involves using various files from many unrelated sources in (probably) unique conditions, people who are trying to fix issues in this section simply can't know what may have gone wrong:
- is the mod aimed at some other game version
- is the mod version dated
- is the mod functional
- does the mod have some dependencies
- has the mod been properly installed
- has some error occurred during some (other) mod removal
- does the mod maybe have some outstanding issues with some other mod
- has some archive been corrupted during the download/upload process
As you can obviously see, there are far too many variables here to have any chance at troubleshooting successfully. At the core of every troubleshooting process is removal of sources of as many probable causes as possible before the real issues shows its face. What can you do?
1. To make sure your issue relates to the original game install, you should remove all modded files restoring the original files from backup or completely reinstalling the game. Here you need to note that some mods are known to corrupt the savegame (actually, the savegame can get corrupted on its own easily, mods sometimes can make this event only more probable) while others can survive the reinstall process. For this reason, once you uninstall the game, you should make sure the game installation directory is empty, this is rather important.
If after this process you still have problems, then most probably the issue is not mod related at all and now we can start troubleshooting.
2. If game issues are definitively caused by mods (i.e. the issue appears only after mods have been applied) there is one general method you can follow - remove all mods and add them one by one, while testing after each step to root out the cause of any issues. This is especially true for car mods, as people get plenty of them from various sources.
3. Only when this process fails and only when you have exhausted all of your choices, you should look for solutions in mod support thread, if such exists. I will list a few threads for some popular mods
ENB series for GTAIV
The best place to start looking would be the forum search function feature here. If this doesn't provide any results, you should open a new thread in some subforum here or if it's more of a general issue you can try opening a thread here.
Now for the other part
Illegally obtained copies are NOT supported. Discussion of cracks in any form is forbidden.
This warning is issued toward people who can't find it in their heart to purchase a GTAIV/EFLC game license but have the nerve to come to a supporting fan forum and ask for help. While there are many reasons as to why some person wouldn't acquire a GTA game license, none of them help explain as to why they would insist on playing a game they haven't provided any support for to the developer.
Put simply, if you have borrowed this game from a friend, got it from some warez site, have issues with applying cracks or using any other type of game protection removal methods you should look elsewhere for help. Do note, that it's because of people like you, we are ALL labeled like pirates or potential pirates, the official number one reason to keep many games from a decent PC release. It's a vicious circle and we will not be part of it.
Edited by mkey82, 28 March 2011 - 07:38 AM.