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Posted 07 March 2011 - 02:12 AM Edited by ratatat, 13 March 2011 - 03:49 AM.

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Concept by ratatat with contributions by xpb.

Radio Logos Made By Drift-Kingz and UNRATED69, thank you, they're both amazing.

Also, headers by Narcis-Speed6 and logo fixed also by him.

HUD by Rojo89, thanks man. Respect.

Thanks to PHARKIN CHERKOV for gang ideas.


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-F.A.Q-

'Why 'Harbour City?'
Well, back in April 2009, IGN decided to play a april fool's joke on a bunch of people stating that the new GTA would be in Australia and would be called 'Harbour City.' Shortly after, IGN revealed that it was a hoax, completely made by IGN. I decided to keep the idea of it being in Austalia (Harbour City) and the whole thing but changing a few things, such as the time period and how it all began.

'Why is it set in 2004? WE WANT THE 70'S OR 80'S!!!'
Yes I understand that, but at the same time there are people who want it to be in the present or in the not-so distant future. But since the GTA V announcement that Rockstar has launched web domains for the in-game use (likely, not verified, but it does gives us clues!) I decided 2004 was a good date.

KEY POINTS:
Platforms: Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PC, Macintosh (First time ever!)

Release Date: 4-26-12

Target Audience: Males ages 17-34

Motifs: High rollers, gambling, beach lifestyle, conspiracies, immigration, drug-running, military coupes, Australian celebrities, street racing, nautical activities, commerce.

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Grand Theft Auto: Harbour City expands and improves on the benchmark GTA IV from Rockstar North, bringing Rockstar Bondi (Team Bondi) instead into the spotlight.

The game is set back in 2004, when crime rate was pretty high. As you start the game, you enter the life of american resident 'Trevor 'Thumb' Conroy.' This character lived in Vice City back in the day, now he's 26 and living in Harbour City as a low-level thug. His accidental initiation into the high rollers' gambling circuit through the dominance of the city's underworld, financial strict, and celebrity scene. He hasn't been mentioned in any GTA era, that brings more mysteries yet to solve from this character. He will slowly start revealing certain things about himself, wether to other people or by learning through actions. As a part of the Harbour Hustlers, while their gang 'hideout' is located in Frontyard Ave.

Like in GTA IV, the game's mission-based structure will remain intact, things such as side missions and environmental interactivity will be put more into thought by Rockstar developers. Harbour City will run on a better and enhanced version of Rockstar Advanced Game Engine supported by the continued licensing of the Euphoria animation engine.

Missions and free roam gameplay will take Trevor across the great 'Coathanger' (Sydney Harbour Bridge), Harbour City Amphitheatre (Sydney Opera House, Knight's Crown (King's Cross), and Greenleaf (Redfern) districts. Also not the surrounding beach communities of 'Sheldon' (Bondi) and through the tangle of city streets and inner-city residential suburbs.

While Harbour City takes cues from Sydney's urban landscape, a portion of Australian outback will also feature.

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Gameplay continues to have much of the traditional GTA structure; however, Harbour City will feature a new co-op and counter-op mission structure, expanded playable landscape (including terrain deformation and an action-sports angle to several mission scenarios), and the classic; multiplayer.
    Enhanced Euphoria animation system
    Environmental deformation
    Stock trading over network connection
    User-driven commerce market
    Optional co-op mission structure
    Rockstar Social Club intergration
    Australian and international voice cast and physical appearance
    True branching story arc- a series first
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The location in this game is completely based off Sydney, Australia. The reason why I picked Australia as the next possible GTA game is because of one main reason. Australia has all the aspects of past GTA games' locations in one place. Don't believe me? Read on further. Australia has lots of beaches and an excellent tropical climate, just like Vice City, a.k.a, Miami. It also has a more urban style setting further onto the city that ensembles Liberty City, for those of you who like more urban-style locations. it also has the most dangerous, and ghetto-like alleyways that can be used for hood style life, like in San Andreas. And I know what you're thinking "San Andreas has beaches, city, and ghetto. Vice City has also some ghetto and Liberty City has also beaches and ghetto." Yes, I know that, but unless the next GTA is a DLC, BELIEVE ME that Rockstar will not base the game in Liberty City again. Vice City already has two games based in the same location and even though San Andreas can be a great choice, I still decided to go with Australia for its most diversity.

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There's a wide variety of characters in this game. There will be a lot of diversity when it comes to characters, physically and internationally.

-Trevor 'Thumb' Conroy
A young, white, rebellious 26 year old thug. He is really into poker and gambling. He went to Harbour City to make a life for himself, but ended up in his criminal life, doing small (yet growing) crimes. He is a part of the Frontyard Hustlers. He is Gerald McReary's right hand man, Gerry is taking a break from the McReary Mob. He is leaving most of the work to his father and his accomplices. He is on a one year trip to Harbour City to settle some unfinished business. Trevor is a gambling addict, and owes big money to Keith Lowe. He has a very distinctive scar on his bottom lip. Trevor lives in his gang hideout, just like Johnny. However, his room isn't as bad, it's got a bed, a bathroom, a closet, and a small TV. Since the gang hideout is a building, you live on the first floor and as you go up, you'll encounter all types of people in each floors, some playing cards while others simply talking. The main room is on the second floor, there is a bar there where you can get drunk (each shot costs $2) and play minigames such as arm wrestling. Later through the game, Trevor will acquire more and more safehouses. Some can be purchased, just like in San Andreas. Here is a picture of Trevor. (Using my terrible photoshop skills, I managed to merge the face of some mod with Marty J. Williams' body): Click Here
2001 - Grand Theft Auto
2004 - Promoting Gambling


-Patrick "Packie" McReary

Yep, saw it coming, didn't ya? Anyways, Packie is back in the game. You're probably wondering, 'Hey, I thought Packie had never left LC?' Yup, I'm pretty knowledgeable about it and I know the game takes place back in 2004, but I came up with the following excuse: Packie went to Australia with his brother Gerry in a year-round trip. His brother went for business while he only went for the 'beaches and hot chicks.' In GTA IV Packie mentions that he want to go to Australia, but that's because he doesn't want anyone to know he's been there already after the small incident when he while drunk and naked, attempted to hi-jack a car but failed, causing public humiliation to him and being arrested. If the topic is brought up, he'll quickly change it or tell you to shut up. He looks a lot like he is now, except he's got a change of clothes.
1997 - Grand Theft Auto
1998 - Grand Larceny
2000 - Hijacking


-Gerry McReary
For a year-round, he'll be your boss/leader/whatever. Packie is also in the gang, and you develop a strong friendship with him (With Gerry too.) Gerry looks a lot the same, with the sea green eyes and brown hair. He has a goatee, though. And he dresses more stylish. He is in a year-round trip, with a death wish. Gerry is not really that heavy on drugs at the time, although it may seem at some points.
1986 - Grand Larceny
1990 - Assault
1992 - Armed Robbery and Hijacking
1999 - Conspiracy to Commit Extortion


-Miguel Ortz
Mexican gang owner: Los Diablos. Very violent and intimidating. He has a mustache and always has a cigar on his face, either on his ear or his mouth. He is very neurotic and will freak out at the most minor thing. You will work for him in a lot of missions, he want a bunch of people killed, who want HIM killed. In his last mission you will have to set a car bomb to kill him.

-Pietro Di Lazzaro
Italian Mafia owner, certainly doesn't like being messed with. With bodyguard Danny Braxton on his side, nothing can get through him. If he wants you dead, then you better run, before he finds you. He looks a lot like Jimmy Pegorino, old-like with a Cuban cigar dangling from his mouth and smart clothes. He often adjusts his tie when he's nervous, and his ashtray is always full with smoke coming out of it. He is very nervous and anxious. Will question you at the smallest thing, like 'Where you followed?' or 'Are you secretly a cop?' He is not really trustworthy.

-Maurice Caine
Owner of the local Australian Mafia; The Convicts. Left his hitman days and got more involved in the Mafia. He is very relaxed and optimistic, if he is shot in the leg, for example, then he'll say 'At least I got another of those.' or 'Lucky I'm alive, Trevor boy.' He is very powerful, never kills but sends to kill. He will never kill someone that is innocent, but if you however mess with him, then you will have an ensured death.
1981 - Murder [Suspect]
1982 - Drug Possession
1993 - Racketeering


-Sammy Bottino
38 year old member of the Gambetti Family and Don Jon Gravelli's right hand man.
1981 - Grand Theft Auto
1982 - Hijacking
1984 - Manslaughter
1993 - Racketeering


-Harvey Noto
Owns the Majestic Hotel back in Liberty City, but is on vacation here in Australia. However, locals are making his vacation very hard and complicated, blackmailing and following him. He is not surprised he has attracted minor attention here in Australia, but he is annoyed and you will be asked to take them out.

-Jeremiah 'Jerry' Hughes
Lil' Jacob's older brother. They are very alike, except Jerry is taller and has buzzed hair. He looks kind of like Pathos or Jermaine Andrews.. He is very loyal to you throughout the game, he smokes weed just like his brother at the 'Witch's Pot,' a place where all the Rastafarians go (A lot like the Homebrew Caf). He is a drug dealer and somehow manages to function better when he smokes weed. He has a low, heavy voice. Speaks with a very Jamaican accent which you barely understand.

Hammer: Owner of the Black Market.

MORE COMING SOON.


BLACK MARKET:

The black market has pretty much the same concept from 'Just Cause 2.' On your cellphone, you call Hammer, the owner of the blackmarket. Shortly after, he'll appear with his helicopter, then give you the option to buy or sell. If you want to buy, scroll down the page to see the available weapons and vehicles. If you choose to sell, then you can choose from your weapon collection (the one you're holding at the moment) and also the car you're in or parked in your garage space.

Smuggling: This one is quite easy, and the thing is smuggling weapons and such. In most cases, the whole thing is outrunning the cops, whilst not being able to use the wanted level cheat so it's pretty hard. You have a three star wanted level, and depending on what you do, it can increase. There is also smuggling drugs, electronics, and even puny things like clothes.

Drug Dealing: This one is in the Black Market business. It's a lot like drug wars, you go with someone and you kind of like fight for the drugs. Then you take it to Hammers' warehouse and you're all done. It's harder than it sounds, I promise.

Hijacking: This is a new feature to the game and rather fun. It is if it's a moving or parked vehicle. If it's moving, then clim to the roof (or hood or back if it's a roofless car) and try to advance while attempting to stay on place in the curves. Kill the driver and steal the vehicle and drive it to the lockup. If it's a parked vehicle, then kill the person 'guarding' the car and break into it. Then drive it to the lockup.

Stealing: It's a lot like SA. You find *any* truck, then park it in front of a house. Now break in and get items into the truck. Careful with the noise, though!

Bodyguard/Driver: This is pretty easy at first, but after a while it may get tricky and hard. You have to get to one place from another place, wether it's an injured patient or an important figure in Harbour City. Get the person in time (safely) and you pass.

That's pretty much it with the Black Market. The whole concept is pretty hard, and it never ends. It circulates itself. It's pretty much random, but once you finish them all, they will start to repeat.


Random Characters/Encounters

-Malc
Short for Malcolm, very anxious. He can't speak to women and you'll find him talking to himself sitting on the sidewalk. He'll stop you and talk to you for a bit, then he'll mention that the girl he loves is with some rich punk that can afford four turismo's. Then he'l reveal he can't talk to women. You will encourage him and finally he'll ask you to take him to ask his crush on a date. He tells you to be at his side at all times. While driving there, he'll get drunk in the car and when you get there he'll blow it all by saying stupid things. After he's done, he'll pay you $100.

Malc 2
He will be found leaning against a wall in Redneck St. He will call you over and tell you that he is over the whole talking to women incident. Then he'll ask you to go pick up some 'women' for him. You have to drive around Harbour City and find hookers, then pick them up and take them to Malc. $200 earned

Malc 3
You'll find him beaten up and bruised. Then you ask him what happened and he'll tell you that some pimp did that to him, and he wants revenge. You agree to help him as long as he stops with the drugs and the hookers. He'll agree and will hop on in the car. Once you get to the pimp you have to chase him around for a bit. Eventually he'll crash and start running on foot. Kill him and get his money to pass. $250 earned

Ted
Big bully like guy with brown slick hair and large blue eyes (Ted from Bully!). He'll be found kicking a drunk guy that's passed out on the street. You'll tell him to stop and and he'll say 'What are you gonna do about it?' You'll push him and lift him against a wall, where he'll stay quiet and look scared. 'That's better.' You say, and put him down. He dusts himself up and tells you he needs a guy like you. His girlfriend, Kendra (He's over Mandy.) is having an affair with his friend Casey. He'll ask you to go and teach that punk a lesson. Drive (With Ted) to him and he's hanging around, smoking a cigar. Then you tell him nobody messes with Ted, nor Ted's girl. He'll tell you to 'f*ck off' and that'll get you pissed. Beat the guy up but try not to kill him. He'll fight back and at one point he'll say, 'Okay man, I won't touch that tramp ever again!' and run off if you give him the time. Then go back to Ted, who'll be happily waiting with $300 on his hand. If you kill Casey, Ted will be sad and will pay you only $200.

Ted 2
Ted will tell you that his girlfriend Kendra has broken up with him and he's destroyed. Then he'll talk and say how he treated her like a princess and she was his life. Ted wants to get away from Harbour City, so take him to the airport but in time.

Gordon Sargent
One of Packie's friend. You'll find him at a bar, trying to help his drunk friend called Michael Keane. You'll laugh and he'll ask you to hel phim take him to the doctor, he has alcohol poisoning. Get in time to the doctor with Gordon and Michael before he dies. $500

Doc
Doc can be found trying to fix his car in Kenworth Blvd. You'll ask him if he needs help and he'll say yes. He needs dead bodies so he can sell the organs and stuff to hospitals and scientists. You'll laugh and tell him he's crazy, but he says he's seen you earlier on the news, that you committed a crime. You'll deny but he won't stop, then you gotta kill five random peds and take their bodies to the doc. $500

Mikayla
Mikayla is sitting on a bench, minding her own business. Her cheek is bright red, and shee seems like she's been crying. You walk up to her and ask if everything's alright. She'll tell you her boyfriend beats her up and she's too scared to confront him. You have to go to his boyfriend and teach that douche a lesson. $400

Mikayla 2
She seems happier now, seen buying a hotdog in a hotdog stand. She thanks you and updates you on her life. Later on, she'll say that she doesn't date Curtis, her old boyfriend now. Then she'll say that she thinks he is stalking her and following her, planning to kill her sometime. You set up a trap and follow Mikayla as she walks in a distance. You'll see Curtis running at her with a knife on his hand, he'll grab her and try and stab her. Shoot at him, you have about seven seconds before Curtis stabs her. Once Curtis is dead, then she'll thank you and tell you that she is now happier. $600 earned.

MORE COMIN' SOON. I PROMISE.

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-All vehicles credit to xpb and Vertical Limit.

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Well, since RDR my ways of seeing the gangs have changed. Now there's a new tab when you go to the menu, it's called gangs. In the top right corner there will be a small thing that says '0/14 Gangs Discovered.' As you discover more and more gangs, the '0' will start going up.

Since most GTA's since SA have been Mafia-based, I've decided to have this game have more gangs than Mafia, a little bit of both, to satisfy everyone. Here I have created an organized list of gangs located in Harbour City.
  • Harbour Hustlers: You're part of this 'gang.' Although you really don't take this so seriously, it is pretty important to you and there are several missions that have particularly to do with this gang.
  • The Convicts: These guys are some Australian-like fellas with lots on mind. They say too much but act too little. Some will run when pointed a gun at.
  • The Rejexz: These guys came all the way from America, you gotta give them credit for that. They think they're so cool with their pants sagging low, that fashion is over, fellas. Move on.
  • White Army: These guys are more serious sh*t. These criminals are all over the place, they're really tough and strong, and the worst part is, they are more than a thousand. If you *TOUCH* one of these guys, he'll start pushing you, then if you fight back more guys will start coming until you're eventually dead. That's how tough they are.
  • Ruff Raiders: These guys are completely from Australian decency. Thay are a biker gang, and they have helmets with spikes on them and graffitied motorcycles. Don't mess with them, at least not for a bit.
  • The Snakes: These street guys think they're all that just 'cause they were born on the streets. However, they only have melee and positols to defend themselves. WARNING: NEVER Alone.
  • Yardies: These guys, well you probably know them, They ARE ALL THAT.
  • Gravelli's: Italian Mafia, no GTA GAme without one of these. Anyways, Jon Gravelli is back, feeling better than ever. So just stay out of his business, or drown yourself in the sea.
  • McReary Mob: Plain old Gerry. Gerry is the leader of this gang, next to him is his right hand man and brother, Packie. However, Packie is also a member of the Harbour Hustlers, therefore the McReary Mob and the H.H will never have trouble or fight one another. In some cases, they'll even work together.
  • Bikies: These guys are just some small-time biker criminals. Not seen around much. When killed they drop large amounts of money.
  • Triads: No GTA game without these lads, the Chinese Triads are back, and this time more powerful than ever. With their leader, Bobby Lee, In Australia, they are 'THE SH*T.'
  • 'Ndrangheta: Nobody can say these guy's names. So, not much about their origin is known. They speak with a weird accent, and among themselves in a language no one understands...
  • Lebanese/Middle-Eastern criminal organizations and gangs: These are a lot, not really a gang.
  • Polynesian street gangs: Mysterious, unknown guys. Few is known about them, often preform their assaults and outlaw stuff at night.
  • Vietnamese criminal gangs: Same as Polynesian.
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Latest in 2004 technology, the Wowzio 2004. Have no friends? Well this phone'll get you some! You'll probably see some ads scattered around the city that look a bit like this:
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Trust the Wowzio, you'll need it.

It'll be your only phone throughout the game. However, you can customize it however you want, by buying ring tones and themes at the local internet caf.




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Posted 07 March 2011 - 02:13 AM Edited by ratatat, 13 March 2011 - 04:33 AM.

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Poker A HUGE part of the game is playing poker. Trevor is what he calls a gambling addict, and even though he really likes it now, he made a living off it for two years when he was living in Vice City. Playing poker in the game is the same concept as in Red Dead Redemption. You can play Blackjack, Texas Hold 'Em, Or Liars Dice. Liars Dice is the hardest to find, because it's such an old-fashioned game. Anyways, if you wear a smart suit then you can enter High-Class Poker, which is pretty much the same but with much bigger betting. You don't have to worry if you don't know how to play, there will be instructions once you enter the game. You can also choose to skip certain things such as some cutscenes and other people's betting.

Internet Poker A lot like normal poker, but online. Choose the type, then get playing!

Five-Finger Fillet Back from Red Dead Redemption, it's a game I highly enjoyed. Once I passed the game, I used to play this all the time. Anyways, just go to a bar or club or hideout and press 'X' or 'A.' Now, once you enter the game you will see your hand, you try and go in a steady pace to the sequence on the screen, if you fail, a small cutscene will appear of Trevor shaking his hand or sucking the blood. However, he will shake it off and continue to play if you wish for it.

Shots: Same as in TBoGT It's the same concept, just go to the bar and ask the barman or waitress for a drink. Some drinks are on the house, others are not (if you want you can have a Champagne fight which consists on drenching your opponent with champagne). Just take shots and once you are wasted, the controller will buzz and you will walk falling over and with little control. If you continue to take shots, the screen will black out and you will wake up in a dumpster in the back alleyway.

Darts & Pool: Same as GTA IV, go to a place with the following options and just play with the commands shown in the screen. Darts can be played is some Bars and pool too.

Arm Wrestling: It's back. Same as TLaD. Press the button really fast to win.

Golf: Same as TBoGT, someone is hooked to the golf car, then try and hit him.

-Car Pimpin': From San Andreas, a lot of people were disappointed they couldn't pimp their ride in GTA IV, well I'm bringing it back!

Sky-Diving It's back from TBoGT and with even more stuff to do, not just land on moving trucks or stuff like that.

Video-Games Not exactly 'video' games but more of Tertris styled stuff, like Qub3d, from GTA IV. These are scattered around the city in shops.

Comedy & Cabaret Clubs: If you're bored, then you should go see a show, seriously. They actually are pretty funny, and the cabaret clubs are more drama than cabaret. So yeah. Oh, girls love it, too. Right?

Dancing: Back from TBoGT and San Andreas. Just dance at the sync of the buttons on screen. Can be done in any nightclub.

Air Hockey: Back from TLaD, just stick your hand out and hit the puck. Do it!

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Cage Fighting: Or as you'd prefer calling it, M.C Cage Fighting. In other words, it's bare-knuckle boxing, after every round you have the change of quitting and taking the money on the table, or continue and risk losing. If you don't feel like fighting, you can earn (or lose) some money by betting on two guys boxing, bet consists od $100-$1000.

Drug Wars: It's also back from TBoGT, it's the same concept but with more diversity. Just call a buddy or go the the place and go fight for drugs.

Hired Muscle: Kind of like a bodyguard job, except much more extreme. You don't just follow some rich dude everywhere, but follow some rich ILLEGAL WANTED DEAD BY MANY dude, so you got people jumping at you every second, it's pretty fun if you have nothing better to do. After all, if you die you'll wake up six hours later feeling fine in a nearby hospital, right?

Security/Bouncer/Doorman: This side missions is earned, you actually have to progress quite a bit into the game to unlock this option. Once you are on it, someone will call you and offer you that whenever you want you can work at their club. You can, just go to the club, go to the staff room and you will then appear with V.I.P clothes on. now just walk around the nightclub looking for trouble makers, if you find one beat them and throw them out. It's pretty fun. Also, you can be a doorman. Being a doorman requires you standing in the door and deciding who comes in and who doesn't. Based on their looks and personality, you can let them pass or not. However, if you repeatedly don't let people pass, then a boss will come and tell you that if you continue, you'll have to leave. If you continue, he'll come again and ask you to leave.

Street Races: There's a bit of 'ghetto' in this game. The street races are illegal, and sometimes attract police. It's a lot like GTA IV, just 'find a car' and go to the race start. Then let it flow.

Taggin': Get some spray paint and spray paint on one of the available locations. This will trigger "Taggin' " missions. Paint as many tags with your signature on it in one minute. Gains respect.

Vigilante: Vigilante missions are back, it's a lot like GTA IV. Just enter the database in the GPS computer system, and locate the criminal. However, they pay more for the criminal alive. To capture him, shoot at him on the leg or beat him 'till he's on the floor. Now go to him and press 'Circle.' A small cutscene will appear of you handcuffing the criminal. Drag (or carry) him and place him on your car. Then take him to the police station for your reward.

Taxi: Can be toggled on/off by pressing the R3 button twice whilst on some type of taxi. Same as the other GTA games. Go to the customer and honk the horn thing. Now, drive the customer to his/her desired location in a given amount of time.

Paramedic Missions: Can be toggled on/off by pressing the R3 button twice whilst on an ambulance. Get the patient to the hospital in a certain amount of time before the patient dies and you fail.

Limo: This is a lot like Taxi, but way classier. You need to find a limo, and once you do so and press R3 twice, you'll unlock the chauffeur outfit.

Noodle Delivery Boy: Need low wage money? Then this is the business for you! In front of any Fook Yu's Noodle & Soup there is a motorcycle which you can climb onto the trigger the Noodle Delivery boy missions. Just deliver the noodles on time! You need speed, timing, and coordination to perform this act.

Bike Salesman: Show the customer exactly what that machine is capable of, but only show off the kind of ride they're looking for! How well can you read people? Figure it out and you'll set them free from the cage! Even make a little money for yourself at the same time!

Car Salesman: Capitol Autos is old and boring, now its Auto Eroticar! Just go to the place and show the customers the ride they want, Make yourself some money at the same time!

Thrashin' RC: Ok, I don't know about you but sure as hell I enjoyed this side mission in LCS. Get on a 'TOYZ' van to trigger this. Now the player takes control of a toy RC Bandit, a minitature monster-truck. Race around against other miniature cars and win for some cash.

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1. JamPum 90.9: A bit of everything, some R&B and funk are most commonly used in this radio station.
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2. Tribute FM: Rock music, all types of rock. Some blues is in here too.
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3. K.A.O.S 104.7: Techno music, wether it has words or not.
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4. Chatterbox 88.9: People that don't stop talking and ads in between.
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5. Funk Buzz FM: Funky, punk, and some rock music.
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5. Moodz 101: "Feeling" music, relaxed, slow, and soft.
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6. Roots 120: Reggae like music, very relaxed.
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7. Street Sense: People talk about stuff that goes on in the streets of the city.
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THIS TOPIC IS NOT FINISHED MUCH MORE IS COMING SOON, I PROMISE.
By the way, your reply=my happiness, please reply with improvements I should do and stuff.

Thanks
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 02:18 AM

This is a quality concept, very organized and good looking. icon14.gif

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:03 AM

Half of this topic is lifted word for word from this...

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:26 AM Edited by K^2, 07 March 2011 - 09:04 AM.

QUOTE (ratatat @ Mar 7 2011, 13:12)
[Original Post]

I understand that you think these parts are a good idea which you took from this thread:
http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=470328
But you shouldn't copy it word for word, put the thing into your own words, and give some credit for the ideas if you feel like it.

I really do like your artwork, and i didn't originally like the idea of a game set in Australia(even though i live here) but you have opened my eyes a bit.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:06 AM

@ratatat - Either get xpb to post here saying he permits you use of material from his thread, or take said material down. I'll be back to check.

@finn4life - Try not to quote an entire page. It's annoying.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 11:17 AM

You have this rich history concerning Sydney's gangs but opted to go for mostly American criminal organizations and what not. I'm from Sydney myself so here's some organizations and gangs you could use instead of the currents one which are out of place.

Bikies
Triads
'Ndrangheta
Lebanese/Middle-Eastern criminal organizations and gangs
Polynesian street gangs
Vietnamese criminal gangs

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 12:14 PM

I, xpb give permission to 'ratatat' to use some of my ideas and content, however he should credit me or change some words.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 04:28 PM

Look's good man icon14.gif

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#10

Posted 07 March 2011 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (xpb @ Mar 7 2011, 08:14)
I, xpb give permission to 'ratatat' to use some of my ideas and content, however he should credit me or change some words.

I threw in an acknowledgement near the top for now, at least until ratatat decides what he wants to do with it.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:01 PM

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I threw in an acknowledgement near the top for now, at least until ratatat decides what he wants to do with it.


Yes, actually I PM'd xpb with the request and he accepted, thanks for adding the credits for me, K^2, I talked to xpb about it and he said he it was okay, but that I shouldl put him in the credits which is now done.

P.S: @K^2 By the way, good luck with your PhD. I heard you're doing it, right?

Sorry a lot guys for the disagreement, I'll make sure to change some things.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:05 PM

Just a little goof in the weapons section: you can't silence a revolver.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:05 PM

It's a good concept dude smile.gif

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:38 PM

This is cool man. icon14.gif

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:54 PM

This looks very organized but you've given xpb and vertical limit some credit, but not me and UNRATED69?

We're the ones who made the radio logos, (cept the roots and mood one), but the rest was made by me and UNRATED69.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 12:04 AM

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you've given xpb and vertical limit some credit, but not me and UNRATED69?


I'm extremely sorry, I'll get to that right away blush.gif

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 09:29 PM

haha glad everything's good, make sure you credit the people or things could turn out pretty rough.. icon14.gif

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 09:54 PM

The screenshots are from that ''Bourne Conspiracy game'' tounge.gif

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:09 PM

Yes haha I didn't want to use GTA ones, so I used this one. You gotta admit it looks pretty real tounge.gif

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 02:30 AM

Oh, Drift-Kingz I credited you and UNRATED69 already biggrin.gif

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#21

Posted 09 March 2011 - 02:33 AM

QUOTE (PHARKIN CHERKOV @ Mar 7 2011, 11:17)
You have this rich history concerning Sydney's gangs but opted to go for mostly American criminal organizations and what not. I'm from Sydney myself so here's some organizations and gangs you could use instead of the currents one which are out of place.

Bikies
Triads
'Ndrangheta
Lebanese/Middle-Eastern criminal organizations and gangs
Polynesian street gangs
Vietnamese criminal gangs

Yeah, I agree it isn't done it needs further updates. For now, do I have your permission to use the names you have written down as gangs?

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 10:42 PM

A map and it's DONE. icon14.gif

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#23

Posted 10 March 2011 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Tyla @ Mar 7 2011, 08:03)
Half of this topic is lifted word for word from this...

Yeah I know that, however I did ask xpb about it. Anyways I changed absoloutely everything except for the weapon icon. Check for yourself.

By the way, I really like your London concept thread, seriously the way you write inspired me throughout most of this topic. Respect, man.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 01:28 PM

Changed stuff, heh? Well it's better. Can't WAIT for missions.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 12:12 AM

Okay so you got half of you're ideas from xpb, even though you credited him it's still not your work and not very impressive.

Also at least half of the mini games and many other things are just the same from TBoGT or TLAD

It could be worse but in my opinion it's pretty bad.

Use some more of your own ideas, and if you use other peoples ideas you have to be careful to credit them before someone has to ask you to. Plagiarism. A good friend got banned for it. Don't mess up.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:40 AM

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Okay so you got half of you're ideas from xpb, even though you credited him it's still not your work and not very impressive.


Umm... Yes, I changed them all, actually. I know it's not the best, but it's in progress. I promise a lot of things will change.

As for
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Also at least half of the mini games and many other things are just the same from TBoGT or TLAD


I agree, in fact I'm changing that in a bit.

I agree with you 100% it's not the best there is... but I've seen worse and it's only its fourth day on the forums. It took a while to write, but it does have some downfalls. The only thing I got from xpb (with permission) were the minigames and the weapons. Big deal. The rest is completely me.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:08 AM

I'm not trying to be 'that guy' but I do not see how it is criminal to use a few (not all) ideas from another concept. I do not mind seeing the same ideas twice as long as it is not a complete remake of another concept.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:28 AM

QUOTE (StoneHead37 @ Mar 13 2011, 04:08)
I'm not trying to be 'that guy' but I do not see how it is criminal to use a few (not all) ideas from another concept. I do not mind seeing the same ideas twice as long as it is not a complete remake of another concept.

Except it seems he only did about half of it

Artwork-Narcis Speed, Drift-Kingz and UNRATED69

Mini games- TbogT tlad and xpb

Weapons- xpb

So basically he did the story and the overview...Not much.

It is his first thread, but if you look over the forums you will see a lot more "first concepts" that are a lot better than this

I encourage him to keep trying but he didn't really do that much on this.

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#29

Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:32 AM

Added tons of side-missions and a few mini-games, I did more than that, and you know it. Please don't be so hard on me, it's my first time. I changed everything but the weapons from xpb. Check out the side missions for yourself.

EDIT: Oh and thanks Stonehead I agree with you completely. It's not like I performed murder or something.

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#30

Posted 13 March 2011 - 04:38 AM

QUOTE (ratatat @ Mar 13 2011, 04:32)
EDIT: Oh and thanks Stonehead I agree with you completely. It's not like I performed murder or something.

If you are making only a little part of the game is a problem, but if you use a few ideas or thoughts that others have used there really isn't no problem.




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