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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:47 PM

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Sad news everyone!

As some on here may be aware, the price of petrol in the UK is currently a f**king pisstake, and as a result my dad can't afford to run his beloved Evo any more :'( so he's getting shot of it, probably quite soon in fact. In the meantime he'll need a replacement, obviously. So I ask you, the kind folk of GTAForums, to give us some suggestions of a replacement. Criteria is;

- Needs to have 4 doors
- Needs to be less than £3,000
- Must be reliable, or at least easy for me and him to fix if needed
- Must be something a little bit special at least, something he can look at and be proud of, you know?

So far we've considered the E36 328i and the 156 2.5 V6

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And on that note, if anyone fancies buying a fairly cheap Evo V, send me a PM.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 09:07 PM

Beamer. While the 156 is an interesting looking motor, and probably drives nicely (I've never had the honour), they're unreliable as hell. Silly, self destructive Italians.

But I feel that, if your dad can't afford that slight increase in the cost of gas, having such a car was a bit of a stretch anyways. What would he have done if there were other more unforeseen costs?

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 09:14 PM

He was alright at the time of purchase, but unfortunately he lost his job just before Christmas so everything's been a bit difficult since, especially seeing as it was all so unexpected. But at least he's been fortunate enough to experience owning a proper performance car, it's his first one in nearly 20 years.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 09:39 PM

Ah, sorry to hear that. I think the E36 is the best choice, especially if it's in as good a nick as the one in the picture seemingly is. Minus the silly taxi bead thingies on the front seats.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 10:28 PM

Would you ever think about owning a Diesel, just for the time until you can get proper income to support a better car? Tax is cheap and from what i understand very good on fuel depending on model. My dad's Qashqai runs very well. It's a sad thing to let go of an Evo.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (Tommy-Vercetti19 @ Feb 24 2011, 22:28)
Would you ever think about owning a Diesel, just for the time until you can get proper income to support a better car? Tax is cheap and from what i understand very good on fuel depending on model. My dad's Qashqai runs very well. It's a sad thing to let go of an Evo.

A diesel is an option, so long as it's a good one. I saw a nice Mercedes 300E W124 for sale, does anyone have any experience of these?

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 10:59 PM Edited by Garfield 2, 24 February 2011 - 11:04 PM.

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item4aa8c8a989

Passats are quite reliable, nippy (130bhp ones) and very good on fuel. You could save a lot money if you bought one of these unless you don't like diesels.
My dad's brother owns a 2001 Estate Highline with 130hp, chipped now at 150hp. Very nice cars they are.

BTW. Alfa 156 is unreliable as f*ck. Hurts from my own expierience. (My parents owned two 156s in the past)

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item19c3750533

The E39 525d is not a bad choice either if you want some more horsies and a nicer straight-six sound.




And a tip when buying a diesel: Don't worry about high mileage. If you're worried ask a friend mechanic to take a look at a car. I do 1000km a week in a 2006 volvo and it has almost 90,000km on the clock already. Was bought by my parents in 2008 with 18,300km smile.gif

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Benzoboy @ Feb 24 2011, 17:38)
QUOTE (Tommy-Vercetti19 @ Feb 24 2011, 22:28)
Would you ever think about owning a Diesel, just for the time until you can get proper income to support a better car? Tax is cheap and from what i understand very good on fuel depending on model. My dad's Qashqai runs very well. It's a sad thing to let go of an Evo.

A diesel is an option, so long as it's a good one. I saw a nice Mercedes 300E W124 for sale, does anyone have any experience of these?

A lot of Benz enthusiasts I've talked to don't care for the W124 because of all the added electronics, but if you could find a W123 300D those things will run for-f*cking-ever.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 12:39 AM

I'd love a w123. I agree that the electronics are the weak point of the w124 and w201.

Getting a good w123 in this country cheap though can be difficult.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE (JayC @ Feb 24 2011, 19:39)
Getting a good w123 in this country cheap though can be difficult.

That actually surprises me. They're pretty rare here and they often don't go for more than $3,000 USD in any condition, and it seems like they'd be more common over there.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 02:11 AM

Everything rusts and the clean examples where exported to Africa to be taxis before the rust took over.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (Azazel @ Feb 24 2011, 21:07)
While the 156 is an interesting looking motor, and probably drives nicely (I've never had the honour), they're unreliable as hell. Silly, self destructive Italians.

Seems to be a common misconception- some are utter nightmares, some run flawlessly for decades.
I guess it's a case of whether you buy a good one, or a total dog.
As for the Passatt idea- the TDi PD, particularly the 130, has a huge appetite for turbochargers. Cold weather in particular affects the oil in the VGT system (especially if the rubber seals are perished in any way and water has got into it) which essentially stops them from working, and the only way of fixing it (and therefore stopping the endless limp-home errors) is to replace the entire turbocharger system at about £550.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:39 AM

Like I said, it depends on the owner, my friend's 05 S40 2.0D Turbo charger blew and yet he had much lower mileage than me.
There is no car 100% reliable anyway but I'd say the Passat, 525D, Volvo S40 is a nice choice.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (Garfield 2 @ Feb 25 2011, 05:39)
Volvo S40 is a nice choice.

I've heard nothing but horror stories about the S40.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 11:12 AM

QUOTE (Pat @ Feb 25 2011, 10:55)
QUOTE (Garfield 2 @ Feb 25 2011, 05:39)
Volvo S40 is a nice choice.

I've heard nothing but horror stories about the S40.

You heard wrong, then wink.gif
There was many recalls in the UK but here in Ireland they're very reliable.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE (Pat @ Feb 25 2011, 10:55)
QUOTE (Garfield 2 @ Feb 25 2011, 05:39)
Volvo S40 is a nice choice.

I've heard nothing but horror stories about the S40.

They're decent quality cars actually, but they're kinda big on rust over here.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 06:06 PM

Cheers for the suggestions so far, agreed on DDR's comment on the Alfa reliability though, any car can last for years if it's looked after. However me and my dad still like the idea of an older Mercedes though, what do we think to this?

http://www.carandcla...uk/car/C211619/

Looks like a good buy, nice price too

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Benzoboy @ Feb 24 2011, 21:47)
As some on here may be aware, the price of petrol in the UK is currently a f**king pisstake

Diesel.

Mercedes 300 TD of some sort, as long as it's a W124 or newer it'll have a 3 liter straight six turbo-diesel with a lovely sound and nice performance.

250 is okay, it's at least a 5 cylinder - sound nice when you gun them a little.

And of course, the newer your car is the less likely the 'dippers' are to bother sampling your tank for dyed diesel. ph34r.gif

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (Benzoboy @ Feb 25 2011, 18:06)
Cheers for the suggestions so far, agreed on DDR's comment on the Alfa reliability though, any car can last for years if it's looked after. However me and my dad still like the idea of an older Mercedes though, what do we think to this?

http://www.carandcla...uk/car/C211619/

Looks like a good buy, nice price too

Good cars to drive, I had the saloon with that engine.

You really need to check for rust as this generation fall to bits if not kept in check. Also the fuel pump can be too weak so parking facing downhill is recommended unless you fit a secondary pump to help it along.

Also find out why it only has one key as replacements are around £250.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 01:46 AM

Yeah, I've heard nothing but good things about the engine in that C-Class. Right now I think a Mercedes diesel is the way to go. That said, look at this

http://www.autotrade...735dl?logcode=p

Value for money or what? Needs an alloy wheel refurb, but that's hardly urgent, if we're honest. The interior looks to be in sound condition which is always good

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 04:22 AM

Both look great. I think I'd go for the wagon personally, but I have a pretty big soft spot for all RWD wagons.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 05:27 PM Edited by Benzoboy, 16 March 2011 - 05:29 PM.

Well my dad got a new car today, he went for an Alfa Romeo 156, but he decided not to go for the V6 and instead he went for a Twin Spark purely for the benefit of extra MPG. His one is a 2001 X-reg with 74,000 miles and it's painted in fire black, got it with FSH and a year's MOT for £1525. Not a bad buy if I do say so myself, there's a few dings and marks on the body but mechnically it's brilliant and the interior is lovely. Photos soon, but in the mean time have this photo I nabbed off google which is basically identical

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (Benzoboy @ Mar 16 2011, 17:27)
Well my dad got a new car today, he went for an Alfa Romeo 156, but he decided not to go for the V6 and instead he went for a Twin Spark purely for the benefit of extra MPG. His one is a 2001 X-reg with 74,000 miles and it's painted in fire black, got it with FSH and a year's MOT for £1525. Not a bad buy if I do say so myself, there's a few dings and marks on the body but mechnically it's brilliant and the interior is lovely. Photos soon, but in the mean time have this photo I nabbed off google which is basically identical

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Good luck spending another 1500 on the repairs in the next 6 months.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 09:59 PM

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I've heard pretty good things about the P11 Nissan Primera. It's a Nissan, yes, but I'm sure the quality is there. Plus, the SR20DE is a great engine.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:01 PM

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I've heard pretty good things about the P11 Nissan Primera. It's a Nissan, yes, but I'm sure the quality is there. Plus, the SR20DE is a great engine.

Bit late now. wink.gif

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Mar 16 2011, 23:01)
Bit late now. wink.gif

Oh yikes, I didn't even see that.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 10:40 AM

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QUOTE (sivispacem @ Mar 16 2011, 23:01)
Bit late now. wink.gif

Oh yikes, I didn't even see that.

D:

Also, FWIW, the Primera isn't even close to being in the same league as a 3-series or Alfa 156. Yeah, the SR20DE is a good engine, but it's used in a pretty low state of tune in most Primeras besides the GT. And christ, is everything else dull. wink.gif

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 05:23 PM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Mar 17 2011, 11:40)
QUOTE (-ska @ Mar 16 2011, 23:28)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Mar 16 2011, 23:01)
Bit late now. wink.gif

Oh yikes, I didn't even see that.

D:

Also, FWIW, the Primera isn't even close to being in the same league as a 3-series or Alfa 156. Yeah, the SR20DE is a good engine, but it's used in a pretty low state of tune in most Primeras besides the GT. And christ, is everything else dull. wink.gif

Ain't in the same league because it's a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TYPE OF CAR!

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (1st gtaROCKER @ May 20 2011, 18:23)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Mar 17 2011, 11:40)
QUOTE (-ska @ Mar 16 2011, 23:28)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Mar 16 2011, 23:01)
Bit late now. wink.gif

Oh yikes, I didn't even see that.

D:

Also, FWIW, the Primera isn't even close to being in the same league as a 3-series or Alfa 156. Yeah, the SR20DE is a good engine, but it's used in a pretty low state of tune in most Primeras besides the GT. And christ, is everything else dull. wink.gif

Ain't in the same league because it's a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TYPE OF CAR!

Please stop resurrecting dead threads.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:52 PM

Well now this thread's been resurrected I may as well update you on what's been done (Nothing major really). Anyway, since my dad bought the car we've done a couple of minor cosmetic things, we changed the nasty black and worn-out gearknob to this one, we installed these gaiters, put on these repeaters, and changed the front speakers to some Alpine SXE-1725Ss.

Plan is to get a V6 model (GTA if possible, more than likely to be a 2.5 though) next summer, my dad loves this car unspeakable amounts.




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