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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:42 PM

In the next GTA game, would anyone like to see some bullet penetration? As of right now, any cover is good cover as long as your enemy doesn't shoot the tip of you head. I would personally like to be able to shoot at an enemy that is hiding behind a large piece of tarp. What do y'all think?

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:49 PM

even wooden boxes, crates, and fences should eventually (i.e. soon) give way to enough fire power.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:26 PM

You could be able to shoot through some soft cover items, but they shouldn't go overboard, as if you can shoot through too many things, cover becomes pointless. Different weapons having different grades of penetration would be nice.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE (reform @ Jan 19 2011, 18:26)
You could be able to shoot through some soft cover items, but they shouldn't go overboard, as if you can shoot through too many things, cover becomes pointless. Different weapons having different grades of penetration would be nice.

Yeah, like if you have a rocket launcher a wall should be no problem, instead of just standing there all the time, also if you crash into a wall you should at least knock a few bricks off.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:30 PM

I come into this thread expecting something else biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif .

I am not really a fan of penetration, possibly through thin walls i suppose, but i didn't like it on COD (don't like COD) and i am not certain i would wanna see it in the next gta.
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In the next GTA game, would anyone like to see some bullet penetration? As of right now, any cover is good cover as long as your enemy doesn't shoot the tip of you head. I would personally like to be able to shoot at an enemy that is hiding behind a large piece of tarp. What do y'all think?

Well this works both ways, if you are hiding behind a wall they could penetrate and kill you, i find penetration makes it a little easy as well.

Just my thoughts on it.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:41 PM

Wow the title really mislead me there. Anyway yes it would be nice aslong as if there is MP you cant lock on through walls and spray people if you are trying to hide.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 11:50 PM

To see some truly amazing stuff you'd have to shift development of GTA V from a current-gen multiplatform title into a PS3 exclusive.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 12:26 AM

Way to mislead me into thinking this was....... something else.

Anyway, I'm not sure about this one. I mean, it would look nice and all, but if cops could shoot through walls and things to get you, that would be pretty damn annoying.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:04 AM

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE (Darkshade12 @ Jan 19 2011, 23:41)
Wow the title really mislead me there. Anyway yes it would be nice aslong as if there is MP you cant lock on through walls and spray people if you are trying to hide.

Oh the human mind biggrin.gif ... Penetration would be good if done well..

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 01:44 PM

Penetration through walls? Isn't that what glory holes are for?



On a side note, definitely. There was MINIMAL destruction is GTAIV/TLAD. Where niko was having a shootout in (I believe) the Jamaican hideout, pieces of drywall got blown away exposing a view to the next room and I thought you could hit people through that. It would add a whole new level of tactics to the game.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 01:52 PM


ugotsmoked and ajrunke, thanks for the lolz tounge.gif

OT: Yeah i'd like to see something like this. Didn't BOGT have something like it? I think, been a while so i could be wrong, but couldn't you shoot through the little walls in Chinese Takeout? Or did they just fall apart?

An enemy hiding behind a thin wall (what is it the americans have? the ones you could pretty much punch through? like in houses/offices..... drywall is it?), a 22 would get through that.

and a .44 or .50 would surely get through a wooden crate. they should make it so small munitions can only get through relative things, and the larger, bad boys can punch through anything except wall.


BUT lets flip the sword over and examine the other edge. What if the enemies have the same gun, and you're behind a crate. would they penetrate straight away, or would you notice the cover begin to degrade? Would this only apply to the player?

As for RPGs, i think if you're behind a BIG wall, leave it as it is, behind a crate, you'll be f*cked.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 01:54 PM

QUOTE (WhistleBlower @ Jan 19 2011, 20:50)
To see some truly amazing stuff you'd have to shift development of GTA V from a current-gen multiplatform title into a PS3 exclusive.

What?

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE (WhistleBlower @ Jan 19 2011, 23:50)
To see some truly amazing stuff you'd have to shift development of GTA V from a current-gen multiplatform title into a PS3 exclusive.

Why? If you say that as if the 360 can't handle destruction, go play Battlefield:Bad Company 2 multiplayer.

I don't prefer either console but there's too many people who buy into this whole 'blu-ray has a bazillion times more disc storage,' when it is rarely even relevant.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 04:16 AM

QUOTE (WhistleBlower @ Jan 19 2011, 23:50)
To see some truly amazing stuff you'd have to shift development of GTA V from a current-gen multiplatform title into a PC exclusive.

Fix it for ya.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 05:00 AM

I think it'd be a bit awkward to pull off, just because the same rules would have to apply to your own cover. Unless they came up with some clever way to show that your cover might be in danger of being "penetrated" lol.gif

Though, I did like in how in some levels you could shoot through walls in GTAIV/TLAD so I don't know.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 06:44 AM

some .45 loads and certainly .44 mag rounds will go thru brick, shattering it. Of course so will certain shotguns and sniper rounds. I want a game that in this regard is 100% true to life. If I am in a building and you are shooting at me I want to see the occasional wood splinters when your bullet hits a support beam, spraying water from bullets hitting plumbing, insulation getting blown out, electrical wires frayed and sparking, damaged by your artillery.

100% or bust.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 04:57 PM Edited by evilrex, 21 January 2011 - 05:00 PM.

Just as with GTA 4 speculation, here comes the Ps3 fan boys. Seriously, I own a Ps3 and the games are nothing more then over priced.
The graphics, on even EXCLUSIVE Ps3 titles, look exactly like a 360 game. In fact, sometimes worse.

I brought RDR for the Ps3, and seriously what the hell? The resolution is smaller, and they added a sh*tty blur effect over everything to hide the jaggies.
Ironically, the only games I play on my Ps3 is the Sega Genesis collection. icon14.gif

And seriously, people were expecting sexual related talk in a topic just because it's called penetration?. If it was called "shoving your cock into a vagina", perhaps then I would understand.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (evilrex @ Jan 21 2011, 16:57)
Just as with GTA 4 speculation, here comes the Ps3 fan boys. Seriously, I own a Ps3 and the games are nothing more then over priced.
The graphics, on even EXCLUSIVE Ps3 titles, look exactly like a 360 game. In fact, sometimes worse.

I brought RDR for the Ps3, and seriously what the hell? The resolution is smaller, and they added a sh*tty blur effect over everything to hide the jaggies.
Ironically, the only games I play on my Ps3 is the Sega Genesis collection. icon14.gif

All fan boys are missing the bad points of their consoles.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 05:26 PM

Penetration would be a brilliant addition to GTA V. I would definitely welcome It. However obviously penetration should only work through wood, thin metal etc. To keep that realism there.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 12:37 AM

Hahahaha some people have sick minds, and yes i think some bullet penetration would be nice yet not over done.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 02:06 AM

But what about double penetrations?

I mean, what if the bastards can shoot you through a wall?

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 02:09 AM

Ops I thought about another thing but.......forget lol.gif Anyway, I don't like the idea, the game would be very hard!!

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 02:16 AM

So long as it doesn't completely defeat the purpose of getting behind cover, I don't have a problem with it.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE (cidamelo @ Jan 22 2011, 02:09)
Ops I thought about another thing but.......forget lol.gif Anyway, I don't like the idea, the game would be very hard!!

Don't you mean It will make GTA V a lot more realistic and better. IV was too easy, adding penetration would make a lot fun and challenging.

Another thing I would love to see and that Is vaulting over cover. Say If Rockstar add bullet penetration then Rockstar would have to add vaulting over cover. The player Is behind cover (Say behind thin metal) Then the player just needs to press a button and vault over cover then sprint Into another one. I hope Rockstar add vaulting over cover It would make fun and realistic.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 10:40 AM

IV had a little bit of this, because you could be shot and wounded while inside cars. In the other games you were pretty much safe until enemy fire causes your car to blow up. In IV, taking lots of fire while in a car is just as likely to kill you first as destroy the car.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 11:05 AM

^The enemy could also shoot you in vcs while in car, the only problem was that all the bullets were getting into you, almost no misses.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 01:15 PM

i kind of agree with cidamelo.
Games are meant to be FUN, and i'm a big supporter of realism in games - but there'd need to be some kind of buildup

EG: you're in a shoot out, and you take cover. AI takes one shot that destroys your cover - nah, AI takes a shot and your cover degrades - 4/5 shots and its time to find some new cover.

Or the game world could be designed to compensate - mix some stronger cover in the mix. When attacking a gang it'd force you to reevaluate things; you wont be able to run right in, you'd have to think.

As i say with the realism arguement - its about balance. Too much one way and it'll fail. Get the balance right - bingo.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 01:35 PM

TommyMufc-Champs well I don't like hard games, they frustate me!!

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (cidamelo @ Jan 22 2011, 13:35)
TommyMufc-Champs well I don't like hard games, they frustate me!!

Well how do you know It's hard? Challenging maybe.




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