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Posted 12 December 2010 - 07:55 PM Edited by Sanjeem, 29 December 2010 - 12:59 PM.

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Welcome to my Topic, Grand Theft Auto Dominion City is based roughly on the city of Montreal Canada. I chose this place because it has a substancial ammount crime even though you may not realise it, I have decided to take on a Mob theme to the story and game. But don't worry, for those few of you who don't like mafia based games, there will be plenty diversity. in dominion city there is Italians, Chinese, Columbians, Blacks, Russians and many more form of criminals. In this topic i also hope to achieve things that were left ou in IV, like many other key features like Assets and property to buy
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Donnie Locazio, a 30 year old criminal associate of the Messina family in Liberty City. Donnie has worked for years under the regime of the family and soon hopes to be inducted into the family as a made man. However the ruling body of bosses have other plans for him. Since the Messina family and the Dominion city based Russo family have formed an alliance, they send him up north to Canada as the Russo family is in need of reliable men.

At first Donnie objects to this, but eventually they persuade him by putting a good word in for him. When Donnie arrives in Dominion City, he establishes contacts and makes them very quickly. However he gets involved very fast and thats when the trouble starts. In recent years a new form of Organized crime has infested the city. They are from Calabria in southern italy and want full control of the cocaine trade, with their political and economic power, they stand strong and are ruthless.

Thats when everything starts to slip down hill for Donnie, his friends and the family. The Calabrians have managed to pursuade most groups in the city to hand over the cocaine trade to them in return for somthing worthy, very few groups refuse them, one being the Russo family. And when they do, they start getting threats and many core members die. The Calabrians have managed to control alot of Dominion cities gangs to obey them. Using the Street gangs and Bikers as muscle to group up on the Russo family.

Things must be settled though! Don Frank Russo just released from prison is not happy, the rest of the family think about giving up and handing it over. the don decides to stand up to these calabrians bullying them, and thats when things start to get dirty. Whilst donnie has lived the life full of luxury cars, women, houses and money, catching up with him though was his life on the line and the bloodshed of his friends...

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Donnie Locazio

The 30 year old protagonist who at first worked for the Liberty City Messina family for many years. However the Bosses decided they would move him up North to the Dominion City based Russo family. The reason being that both families have formed an alliance for business reasons, and the Russo's were in need of reliable men, so thats where Donnie came in. He makes contacts and very quickly whilst also making a new best friend called Nick Arillota.

Donnie is soon inducted into the Russo crime family, and is let in on much more than when he was just used as cannon fodder, he discovers the secrets and the way things work in the Mafia, and learns how to commit many crimes such as Protection rackets, Drug trafficking and may more.

Nick Arillota

Nick "Little Nicky" Arillota is a 28 year old associate of the Russo mob who befriends Donnie the most. Alot of their work is done together and both look out for each others back. You encounter him in the very first mission, and introduces you to alot of people. Both men are also made together. He has been arrested on many occasions for small time things like Drunk driving, Vandalism at bars and nightclubs, and even though ment no harm, he is a very high profile character and loves his women, partying and booze.

Although he is no racist he tends to make alot of irrisponsible jokes, he calls black people "Eggplants" and calls chinese people Yurins and Mexicans Spics, he claims to have many ethnical friends and that he is joking. Nick Arillota is easilly offended and very, very quick to use violence. It is said one man in a bar one night showing off to his woman called him a "Guido" and Nick didn't even flinch he grabbed the nearest object he could find and beat the guy half to death.

Sonny Lucarelli

Sonny is infact the first contact that Nick introduces you to, he is a capo within the russo family, and is in charge of the family's prostitution rackets and waste managment business. Sonny is a very clever man, and some say his character doesn't suit him, he talks very upper class, and sounds all brains, yet the way he dresses is very extravagent, as he looks more like a sex crazed Pimp when he is at one of his Clubs or bars.

He gives you certain missions such as looking over his girls to make sure they pay on time, and if they fail to pay on time, it is said that Sonny has a routine of corporal punishments that he performs himself in his brothels which includes pouring tomato soup on the hoe whilst beating her with Anal beads. Over all he is a very disturbed but at the same time clever and interesting man, and has a very good sense of humour.

Sonny mainly uses his waste managment plants as a front for himself and that family of being legitmate businesmen. All know though that this legitimate business is infact used for dirty money laundering, and he provides Donnie with some missions which include drug delivering along the garbage routes to sell to Street gang leaders.

Phil Bell

We all know the Phil bell from Grand theft auto IV. After the fall of the Alderny based Pegorino family, phill bell like many other of it's members and associates decided to leave it's remains in the rubble, and try and find new work somplace else.

Phil came to Dominion city to start up his own legitmate business with the money he had to buy one of Dominions cities Docks, since he knew how to run them and what was needed. Although trying to avoid the mafia's line of work, Phil bell can't get used to that normal life, some would say he be a destined criminal, and that was his fullfilment in life. Since Phill has irish heritage he cannot be made and never will be. Although just an associate he has the respect of a Capo among the Russo family due to him being a good earner and also a very clever person with a sense of humour.

Salvatore Franco

Often refered to as Sal for short, is the acting boss of the family since the real boss Frank Russo is scheduled to be released from prison this year. Until then Sal takes on many responsibilities and leads the family as it goes through a tough time.

Salvatore is known for his obsession with Cash and expensive items, you will never see him in somthing worth less than $200. he wears the most expensive suits, shoes and watches and also loves Media attention which is the worst thing for a member of a mafia family to do. Although it may not seem it, salvatore would do anything to save his own neck and if he was pressured enough by the police he would rat on the organization.

In the end who seems like a good friend and character actually betrays alot of people, more than you think.

Frank Russo

Frank Russo, also known as The Boss or Don Russo being the leader of the family, is a tough and ruthless figure, whilst all of these he is many things and stupid is deffinatly not one of them. When the organization is at it's tip, being pressured by the gangs in the city and most of all the Calabrians to hand over the cocaine trade to them.

it becomes so tough at one point where frank himself is threatened which follows the death of money crime members and associates. Many of the ruling commision are ready to simply hand over the cocaine trade to the calabrians like the rest of the crime groups in the city, but Frank says a confident No!

Frank is a good don leader, and is very smart, and it is his mixture of violence and cleverness that manages to bring the family back up into the light again, and manages to beat the nasty calabrians and is all in all a stand up person.

Rocco Pelosi

Yes, the annoying arrogant wannabe mobster was spared before in TBOGT because he was a made guy, well not all hopes are down. Lately Giovanni Ancelotti is losing power and fast, alot of his family are in jail and the family is collapsing. The last thing he needs is a little slimeball like Rocco making alot of noise and attracting media attention, who thinks he's John Gotti.

If you tried to contact him in tbogt after the game he will say he's out of town and don't bother to try look for him. Well infact he is in Dominion city, and this is because Giovanni simply wanted him away from Liberty city praticalkly undoing all his work. Later in the story you will eventually do this for the Ancelotti's and whack Rocco because of the pestisite he is.

Kiril Vorshenko

Head of the Russian mob in Dominion city, is a ruthless but also clever character, he usually hangs out in his Russian type bars and social clubs. He is a very calm character, and killing is a peice of cake for him, It is said that once he shot a guy walking his dog because he needed to simply find out if his gun was working properly. He himself used to be part of the once KGB, and still has connections within them , making him quite a powerfull criminal.

He is responsible for a car theft ring in the area, and also is the main supplier of weapons to the whole of the Cities gangsters.

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Grey symbolises street gangs
Green symbolises average gangs
Purple symbolises Organized gangs

Hustlers - Is a street gang that is beleived to be a canadian sector of the Crips. Their main source of income involved all sorts of drug dealing, whom they buy off other bigger organizations, they are primarily African American and carry pistols and automatic weapons.

Vatos locos - is a primarily Hispanic street gang made up of mainly mexicans. It is involved in the same as most street gangs, but are more profile about their membership with tatoo's and acts. They are not afraid to go against the police, and don't care in general weather they live or die.

Spanish Lords - Also seen in IV, is a very large mainly Latin street gang. it's main ethnicity is Puerto rican but all forms of Latin's are among it. They specialise in money laundering but also their main income is street dealing, like many gangs they thrive for territory in order for their distribution of drugs.

M.O.B. - is not exactly a street gang but not organized to be in organized sector. it's a mix up of the both, whilst most members dress like they have been to a baseball game, they are more discrete and clever when it comes ti laundering their money. they are mainly African-American and carry pistols and shotguns. Their mains ource of income is Marijuana.

Irish mob - Like the one's in IV, these however go by the name of Mcvinigans, they are not exactly a mafia group but they are very dangerouse criminals and when they see a huge cash oppertunity they will strike. Although the gangs leaders are mainly related and are alcoholics and merry, they operate in mainly drug running and armed robberies.

Bikers - This term bassicly covers all the biker gangs in the city as their are many! as you can see from their title they ride on mainly bikes but operate alot in Heroin and weapons smuggling whom which they get from higher organizations, they launder their money, and their character is alot more friendly, like they are not a gang and more like bunch of wild guys having alot of fun.

Russo family - The family you work for and are in, is considered to be the most powerfull mafia gang in Dominion city, and are based loosely on the Rizzuto's. They operate in almost if not every racket, including fraud and sex trafficking. They are big in construction busineses as they control 5% of canada's to alunder their money. they are dressed in tracksuits or suits and drive mainly black expensive cars.

Giamelli family - This family being the enemy of the other one, this is because they used to be one at a point in history and since the day they seperated, competition has been vital, anything the Russo family gets on, the Giamelli family try and do it better, often they fail which angers them, and when the Calabrians decide to form an alliance with them in return for full control of cocaine trade, they accept fully to get the russo's.

Russian mob - Born from the prisons of Soviet russia, the russian mob also known as Vor v Zakone is a powerfull force aswell in Dominion city. They are the main weapons supplier for the gangs in the city as their leaders are comprimised of former KGB agents who have stockpiles of weapons left over from the Soviet era. They too also refuse to hand over the drug trade to the calabrians along with the Russo's. Vor V Zakone arn't just from russia though, they are from Georgia, Kazachstan, Armenia and other places, so the title Russian mob kind of contradicts itself.

Chinese Tongs - Commonly refered to as the triads, these Chinese gangsters are one of a kind. unlike many their culture is a unique one, instead of booze they drink tea and instead of faay foods they eat healthy rice for a perfect lifestyle. However that won't benefit them in any way since they are ruthless people and quick to use murder in a very viciouse way, the love machete's and very good at conterfeiting things such as money and goods, they also control most of the Heroin trade from Far east asia.

Columbian Cartel - These people control most of the cocaine importing from Latin America, they use their Cofee factories as a disguise. They sell to many groups, directly they sell mainly to the Mafia families to sell to the street gangs, but in recent years the Calabrians are forcing them to sell only to them, however like few groups they refuse them.

The Calabrians - From the South of Italy and beleived to have by far the best Political and economic strength out of all the groups, these people control most of europes cocaine trade and now want to expand on it by forcing the other groups to hand it all to them. Whilst they make splendid offers to groups for this, many groups decide to say yes, and the few that say no are eventually bullied by these people, they are the main antagonists of the game.

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Side Missions

Protection Rackets - This is a form of crime very common amongst the Mafia. In the game there will be a certain ammount of stores that you can demand protection off, all you have to do is walk in and it will give you an option to extort them. Depending on the business you will demand a fee and every month you will collect that fee. If the store owners however refuse then you may have to smash one or too things up but you musn't hurt them.

Somtimes the ones that do pay you protection may do one of three things

1) The owner will use your protection to his advantage, if their is a local competitor in the area he may ask you to smash their store up or do somthing to benefit the store owner, this makes him a criminal associate

2) Instead of paying valuable money to you, he may decide to take the risk and help you through a criminal act, like laundering your money or using his store as a front for your operations, that way he doesn't need to pay money

3) Worst of all he might break the rule of silence and be brave enough to contact the cops, one day when you walk in then, you might be ambsuhed outside after youve collected the money, that will eiter result in you getting arrested or a violent shootout and spree.

Assets - There are many available busineses around the city up for sale. You can either leave them, or you can buy them. For example there will be Bars, Nightclubs, Estate property all there for the taking, this not only gives you a place to hangout and see your fellow mafia thugs but it will help launder your money and boost your profits and will create a revenue for you to collect.

These assets will also give you little mini-missions, like drug running and making drug deals around the city and many other missions. Other criminal gangs might try and destroy your assets so that your money laundering operations are gone and disrupt your profits. However we all know how in VCS this was annoying, this will only happen if you are near a asset and if you wish to cancel you may.

Robberies - There are many things you can rob aswell in Dominion City. i will list a few, what their risks and what their rewards are, remember the bigger the risk the greater the rewards...

• Store - This can get you up to $1000 if all goes well when threatning him with a peice, but soon after you leave he is going to call the cops, the best thing to do is hide or flee the crime scene fast, not too hard. You will have * star

• House - This can only be performed at night for obviouse reasons, you can rob many things such as jewelry and the houses safe that could contain cash. maximum you can get is $30000 worth of stuff. if all goes well you will have zero stars, but if the owners are woken up, they will usually get a shotguns start screaming and call the police, this will take you onto *** stars.

• Small banks - This can be performed any time of the day, and can be done in two ways.

1) You can bribe one of the people who works there a large ammount fo cash to let you in after the stores is closed, and if you avoid the lasers you could get away with it with difficulty...

2) You can storm right in the bank with a chainsaw mask on with a colt in your hand and wave it around like you see in the movies, however this will get you ***** stars and could be very hard to escape, you would be lucky to still be alive, reward would be high though, $3m.

Wanted Level - It will be roughly the same as IV's but i have decided to make a few Alternatives...

1 Star = Police on foot try to arrest you or simply talk to you to stop what your doing, if they have to use force they will use batons, no guns (At this level they can also be easilly bribed...

2 Stars = Police will now pull out stun guns and attempt to arrest you like that, they will usually call up a police car in this case or two, at this level they can also be bribed but with a larger payment...

3 Stars = Police are going to use Pistols and automatic weapons, and the SWAT team will come in aswell, and escape will be difficult, no form of bribery can get you anywhere as they are trying to take you down, helicopters will appear

4 Stars = Now there will be less Police cars, but there will be even More SWAT cars and the FIB are now involved. this could mean that they are diguised so although they look like normal people and are in normal cars becarefull they might start firing at you. helicopters will also start to appear still..

5 Stars = This is when the special forces are called out, now there are also better and armed helicopters in the sky such as Annihilators, they will fire at you at all costs, and most of the roads will be clear, nobody on the street...

6 Stars = You are simply going to die within minutes unless you are a super ninja. The Army have now come out, all other police forces and forms have gone away and you are left with Army choppers in the sky with Missiles! and also armoured Patriots, and Tanks not flinching to use their Guns!

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 07:58 PM

Nice start Sanjeem icon14.gif Its a good idea cookie.gif

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:13 PM

I like it mate well done, however i want to see more content but the overall concept is great and i like the Montreal idea.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:16 PM

Nice work. cookie.gif icon14.gif

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (AnthMUFC-Champs @ Dec 12 2010, 20:13)
I like it mate well done, however i want to see more content but the overall concept is great and i like the Montreal idea.

This is just the start, this topic will develope over Christmas like all the others this is just the start off point.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:17 PM

Looks cool cookie.gif cookie.gif cookie.gif cookie.gif , but I would ask a MOD to delete some of these earlier replys so you can have some reserves wink.gif .

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:18 PM

I would have gone with a San Andreas style Canada based game if I was you.
Plus you have made this waaaaay too Mafia-centric, you haven't even included any street gangs. Canada's gangland is really interesting with South Asian gangs and bikers, yet you haven't included either.

To be honest I don't know if Canada is a suitable location. When someone thinks of Canada they don't automatically think crime.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (brownbear @ Dec 12 2010, 20:18)
I would have gone with a San Andreas style Canada based game if I was you.
Plus you have made this waaaaay too Mafia-centric, you haven't even included any street gangs. Canada's gangland is really interesting with South Asian gangs and bikers, yet you haven't included either.

To be honest I don't know if Canada is a suitable location. When someone thinks of Canada they don't automatically think crime.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (san andreas state @ Dec 12 2010, 20:18)
QUOTE (brownbear @ Dec 12 2010, 20:18)
I would have gone with a San Andreas style Canada based game if I was you.
Plus you have made this waaaaay too Mafia-centric, you haven't even included any street gangs. Canada's gangland is really interesting with South Asian gangs and bikers, yet you haven't included either.

To be honest I don't know if Canada is a suitable location. When someone thinks of Canada they don't automatically think crime.

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Well i suppose i should add some street gangs...

Thats not the point, the point is there is crime though, and lots of it. Ive done my research and Canada maybe full of gangs but a Mafia based concept for montreal is really the perfect chance to bring up another chance to see the Mafia in action!

Just take a look at the stories, if you think like me this makes for interesting stories..My Concept is pretty much based on these events and it fits very well, The Calabrians are the one's suspected of these murders in real life as are mine in the story...

http://www.bbc.co.uk...canada-11739566

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:31 PM

One problem I have with your concepts is that you tend to go for realism over creativity.
You tend to base your topics on real life gangs rather than cool characters and features.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (brownbear @ Dec 12 2010, 20:31)
One problem I have with your concepts is that you tend to go for realism over creativity.
You tend to base your topics on real life gangs rather than cool characters and features.

Yes but thats exactly what IV did with it's gangs, they were all based loosely on some gang or organization, like i said thats the reason for a Mafia based topic and also this thread is nowhere near complete, i am working on the gamplay and features right now, so things will be more interesting, i'll be doing missions soon aswell.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:55 PM

Hey man, what happened to your new previous account?

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:56 PM

He lost his password. And Sanjeem, I can see this topic going a long way icon14.gif Keep working on It.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:57 PM

Nice start! Look forward to seeing more...

Can you please tell me where you got the weapon pictures icon14.gif cookie.gif ?

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 09:49 PM

QUOTE (joshdempsey @ Dec 12 2010, 20:57)
Nice start! Look forward to seeing more...

Can you please tell me where you got the weapon pictures icon14.gif   cookie.gif ?

Just ask for a request nicely in the GFX section, ask what weapons you want in IV style, sombody is bound to do them for you.

Cheers Champs, i have yet to do the character profiles and their pics after 5 days time when i can request, then i will start the missions in detail...
I will also add street gangs tonight brownbear because i just figured how they could play in the story.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 10:04 PM

nice work sanjeem - a nice novel setting, could do with some expanding colgate.gif

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 10:13 PM

Looks good so far. I've been to Montreal several times. It's a beautiful city, but it's hampered with crime.

Here's a nice picture that you could perhaps add in if you resized it.

http://upload.wikime...norama_2006.jpg

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Ryan @ Dec 12 2010, 22:13)
Looks good so far. I've been to Montreal several times. It's a beautiful city, but it's hampered with crime.

Here's a nice picture that you could perhaps add in if you resized it.

http://upload.wikime...norama_2006.jpg

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Added Missions section, now i need advice on what to add, planning of street gangs is underway, what else i need ideas? a gameplay section of activities i guess..

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 10:37 PM

Good work Sanjeem. From what you've provided so far, it looks like this topic will be pretty good. Also, I see you've taken a slight interest in the mafia.

@Brownbear, You and your gangs, man.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 11:12 PM

QUOTE (drscot @ Dec 12 2010, 22:04)
nice work sanjeem - a nice novel setting, could do with some expanding colgate.gif

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And there will be, like all starter topics they start off small and become bigger much like running a business. colgate.gif

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 11:46 PM

Montreal would be an interesting choice for a GTA, and it would easily be fit into the "island city" structure that the series has - although that something I'd like to see it grow past once the technology makes it possible.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:17 AM

General Chat!!!!1 WE GET OUR OWN SECTION!!! and nice updates.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:19 AM

Yeah this is f*cking weird. No concepts in the V section. Except for the 30 million noobs who won't follow directions.

Sorry for going off topic.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 12:29 AM

I think it's good, we can operate freely now gives us our own little sector, well aint that somthing, cheers for the posts, updating tomorow.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:19 AM

Yeah but some concepts like jaky fiends's Las Venturas are still In the V section.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:22 AM

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Yeah but some concepts like jaky fiends's Las Venturas are still In the V section.

At the default setting of 40 topics per page, there are 99 pages of topics to go through in the GTA V forum. It's 3:30AM now, and I'm not going to do that now. Perhaps tomorrow.

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 07:41 AM

QUOTE (Ryan @ Dec 13 2010, 07:22)
QUOTE (TommyMufc-Champs @ Dec 13 2010, 03:19)
Yeah but some concepts like jaky fiends's Las Venturas are still In the V section.

At the default setting of 40 topics per page, there are 99 pages of topics to go through in the GTA V forum. It's 3:30AM now, and I'm not going to do that now. Perhaps tomorrow.

Yeah I suppose smile.gif Anyway nice topic Sanjeem, what are you doing next?

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 09:07 AM

Nice job Sanjeem, I like it. I'm going to have to agree with Brownbear though, where are the biker gangs? I know sod all about crime in Canada, but the first thing I would associate with it are the bikers. You could throw in a full on mob-biker dispute if you want to make things interesting.

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#29

Posted 13 December 2010 - 09:14 AM

Brown Bear you contradict yourself a little bit.

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To be honest I don't know if Canada is a suitable location. When someone thinks of Canada they don't automatically think crime.

Doesn't really matter if it is crime central or not (which it is) The game can easily add in make believe gangs and such which you imply wouldn't fit since (in your opinion there aren't many gangs in Canada.
In that sentence your saying it's a little un-realistic to have a relatively crime free and gang free(or so you think) city full of crime in game.


Heres where you contradict yourself.
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One problem I have with your concepts is that you tend to go for realism over creativity.
You tend to base your topics on real life gangs rather than cool characters and features.

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#30

Posted 13 December 2010 - 09:15 AM

QUOTE (Tyla @ Dec 13 2010, 09:07)
Nice job Sanjeem, I like it. I'm going to have to agree with Brownbear though, where are the biker gangs? I know sod all about crime in Canada, but the first thing I would associate with it are the bikers. You could throw in a full on mob-biker dispute if you want to make things interesting.

I'll include them then, when i read about them though it said they were all pratically in Jail, maybe a jail break out would be fun, or a gang war.

i will work somthing out now...




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