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Posted 18 October 2010 - 11:10 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 30 September 2016 - 01:16 PM.





You take control of a twenty eight year old Italian American from the mean streets of Bohan named Carlo Devino who after falling into serious financial difficulty ends up working for the mob. You will journey with Carlo up through the ranks of Liberty City's five big Mafia Families, working your way up from a simple associate to a full fledged member of Liberty City's La Cosa Nostra, taking on more violent and dangerous jobs as you go.

This game will give players a chance to deeply immerse themselves in Liberty City's most infamous crime families and experience first hand the compelling events which surround them on a daily basis. The overall tone and format of this chapter based game will differ greatly and will unfold in a more narrative fashion than any of the previous titles in the grand theft auto series, playing out more like an interactive movie than an actual game. The story will contain about twenty or thirty hours of gameplay with plenty of mini games and side missions thrown in to keep the game fun. The various chapters will also be replayable providing plenty more hours of gameplay even when the main story is done. Other exclusive additions to this game will be an advanced combat system, improved law enforcement AI requiring the player to act tactically to avoid arrest (or death) and a whole host of new weapons. Carlo will also have access to three exclusive clothing stores – namely Ranch and ProLaps (for casual/leisure wear) and Didier Sachs (which sells more formal attire as you progress further into the game).

Other additions to this game include an honor and respect system similar to Red Dead Redemption, weapon specific close quaters executions, a gun closet in your safehouse where you can store weapons you have obtained over the course of the story, the ability to call in crew members to accompany you on jobs and all new “favours” missions which are similar to random character side missions but are centered around random events on the street such as muggings, car thefts, vacating drug dealers from neighbourhoods and package delivery jobs and a brand new island to the south west of LC known as Richmond Island (based on Staten Island). The story itself will be almost completely seperate from that of the other Liberty City protagonists (meaning no direct crossovers) but some of the characters will re-appear and certain events from those games will be referenced and/or explained in greater detail. The game will be available exclusively for download on Xbox Live and the Playstation Network but will also be playable from in game menus of GTA IV and The Complete Edition.



The Protagonist

Carlo Devino

The story begins with Carlo living in a small apartment in Bohan with his elderly mother, who is widowed and raised him alone from a young age. Carlo has never really been able to hold down a job due to his serious lack of formal education and over the years he has had to resort to working undesirable, temporary jobs and committing petty crimes in order to bring money home for his mother.

Growing up, Carlo was surrounded by mobsters, thieves and drug dealers in his community but he has always tried hard not to fall too deep into the criminal underworld. Lately however Carlo's financial situation has gotten particularly dyer and the money he gets for the odd jobs he does is barely enough to keep the asbestos filled roof over his mother's head. For Carlo it's now a case of desperate times calling for desperate measures and when his childhood friend Daniela “Dani” Lupisella inadvertently offers him a chance to work for the local cosa nostra family, the offer just seems a little to lucrative to refuse. As the story progresses he will get sucked deeper and deeper into the world of the mafia as he goes from a lowly associate to a full fledged member of one of Liberty City's largest crime families.







Richmond Island

Borough Logo


Richmond Island is one of the five boroughs in the Family Ties version of Liberty City and the only one which is inaccessible to the player at the start. Richmond Island is the least populated of the five boroughs but is the third largest in area. Richmond island is a lot more suburban in nature compared to the other four boroughs of Liberty City and the independant state of Alderney which is overall more urban than the majority of the island. Richmond Island is the only part of the city not to be connected to another by way of a bridge as has been the case since the 1970s when the Tudor Bridge connecting the Island to Alderney (the remnants of which can still be seen off Tinderbox and Red Wing Avenues in Tudor and Acter Industrial) was destroyed by a terrorist attack.The only remaining mode of transportation between the island and other parts of Liberty City is the Richmond Island Ferry which carries people to and from the island from stops at The St. John's Bus and Ferry Terminal (Richmond Island), Pier 45 in Algonquin, East Hook in Broker, Happiness Island and the Alderney Ferry Terminal for the price of just $2. Due to these and other factors Richmond Island has often been called "the forgotten borough" by it's inhabitants who feel neglected by the city government to the point of denying it's existence despite some of it's members actually living on the island. It is also often erroneously considered to be part of neighbouring Alderney (from which it is separated by a tidal strait affectionately known as "The Snatch"). Unlike the other boroughs of Liberty City Richmond Island does not have an operational subway system instead making use of buses to transport it's inhabitants around the island (these buses can be hijacked by the player and used as a way of making a little bit of extra cash). Overall the island is quite ethnically diverse and is diversely split in terms of the socio-economic backgrounds of it's citizens, with the South of the Island being generally affluent and the North of the island generally being more disadvantaged. Despite the generally upscale nature of the island compared to the other boroughs there is in fact a substantial presence of gangs on the island, especially members of the Liberty City Mafia who will be Carlo's main contacts on the island.


State: Liberty State

City: Liberty City

Total Area: 265.5 sq km

Population: 468, 730 approx

Neighbourhood Map

Richmond Island consists of a total of 13 individual designated areas, these are as follows:

1. New Haven (based on St. George, Tomkinsville and New Brighton)
New Haven is a historic commercial and residential district located in the north eastern tip of the island. The main attraction of this area is the St. John's Ferry Terminal, the main gateway to the island for travellers from the rest of the city. The area is generally quite affluent and houses many large apartment building and quaint little eateries, historic shopping districts, a farmers market and a large church. Other major landmarks in the area include the Richmond Island Museum, the St. John's Theater, the Richmond Island Borough Hall and a waterfront memorial sculpture dedicated to none other than St. John himself. The southern and eastern portions of the neighbourhood are more residential and contain several blocks of two story town houses moving towards West Haven and North Beach. This area is home to many Italian and Irish Americans but also boasts a small Albanian community who can be seen hanging around the area's commercial hub and in clusters around the seafront boardwalk. One of the islands three police stations is also located in the area close to North Beach.

2. West Haven (based on West Brighton, Clifton and Stapleton)
West Haven is a mostly residential area located to the west of New Haven. The area is generally working class in nature although there is a clear split in social classes within the area with the east side containing a number of two story houses (similar to neighbouring New Haven). The neighbourhood begins to look more run down however moving west towards Port Haven. The western portion of the neighbourhood contains several rows of shops and a small number of ethnic commercial properties however the area is majorly dominated by project buildings and six story red brick apartment complexes which are home to the area's large African American population. Almost the entire northern portion of the neighbourhood is taken up by the Bank of Richmond Ballpark, a baseball stadium which seperates the large commercial office buildings of New Haven to the east and the aforementioned run down project and apartment buildings to the west. West Haven is also the site of one of the island's two major hospitals as well as one of two of it's fire stations and the second of it's three police stations.

3. Port Haven (based on Port Richmond)
Port Haven is a neighbourhood located north of West Haven reminiscent of many areas of Bohan (particularly Chase Point and Little Bay). The area was once a bustling hub at the foot of the Tudor Bridge, since the destruction of the bridge however most of the buildings in the area have gone into a state of disrepair and it has become more of a 'haven' for drug dealing, gang violence and prostitution, seeing many wars between the areas population of gang affiliated Latino Immigrants and the African American gangsters from neighbouring West Haven in recent years. The area is currently in the midst of a large scale redevelopment plan which aims to restore the area to it's former glory (the evidence of which can be seen by the many construction sites in the area). Aside from the construction sites the area is generally run down and dirty and features an abundance of graffiti on it's buildings and piles of litter everywhere. Port Haven is also the site of Richmond Island's third and final police station.

4. North Beach (based on various east shore sea and beach front neighbourhoods)
North Beach is a coastal area which encompasses almost the entire south eastern shoreline of the island. The residential portion of the area is a mix between apartment buildings located in the area closest to western New Haven and small beach front properties located close to the beach which is separated from the rest of the area by a large boardwalk promenade similar to Firefly Island which contains many stores and small businesses as well as a mix of italian and chinese restaurants. Also located close to the beach is a disused amusement park and an adjacent arcade where the player can play bowling, pool and air hockey. In this area there is also a small housing estate which not only separates the adjacent park from the coast but also offers it's residents some mild seclusion from the hustle and bustle of the seaside promenade. The demographics of the area is mixture of Irish, Italian and Chinese immigrants who seem to coexist with one another without any problems.

5. Cursor Park (loosely based on LaTourette Park and surrounding areas)
This neighbourhood concists almost entirely of a large park of the same name which also contains a country club and golf course which is a huge hit with the island's most affluent residents. As was the case with Leaf Links in Vice City weapons are not allowed on site but there are plenty of golf clubs and stealable carts floating around with which to cause mayhem. Adjacent to the park there are also a few brownstone townhouses home to a small orthodox Jewish community.

6. Cursor Hills (based on residential areas of Todt Hill and Dongan Hills)
Cursor Hills is a highly affluent private residential neighbourhood (Similar to Meadow Hills) located in the hills next to Cursor Park complete with it's own security guard. The area contains several tudor styled two story houses and mini mansions largely owned by local celebrities and high ranking mob figures, the largest of which being a mega mansion belonging to Don Giovanni Ancelotti and an iconic mansion featured in a mafia themed vinewood blockbuster from the 1970s.

7. Stoneville (based on Graniteville, Willowbrook and commercial section of Bulls Head)
Stoneville is Richmond Island's main commercial hub located beneath the large hills which house the neighbourhood of Cursor Hills and overlook the area. The area is the most sparsely populated of all of Richmond Island's neighbourhoods but is home to three of the borough's major landmarks these being the Richmond Island Mall - a medium sized shopping mall comparable in size to the North Point mall in GTA III era's Vice City, The College of Richmond Island which has it's campus in the center of the neighbourhood and a large hotel owned by the super rich Von Crastenburg family (based on the Hilton Garden Inn). The area also contains some light forrestry mostly concentrated towards the south west near Cursor Park.

8. Bentleyville (based on Tottenville)
Bentleyville is a large upper-middle class residential neighbourhood concisting of two and three story duplexes, detached and semi detached homes which sit next to a small beach area to the south east (similar to the ones found in Beachgate in Broker). The Residents of Bentleyville are a mix between young (mostly white) collegiate types and elderly people of all races. The neighbourhood is also home to the south west area's main fire station which is located close to the border with Thompsonville. The area also cointains a boathouse although it is of no particular use to the player other than providing a spawn point for several boats.

9. Norfolk (based on Industrial sections of Bloomfield and Travis)
Norfolk is Richmond Island's Industrial hub containing many warehouses and factories and a large oil refinery. Overall the neighbourhood is similar to Acter Industrial Park in Alderney.

10. Port Norfolk (based on Port Ivory and parts of Mariner's Harbor)
Port Norfolk is Richmond Island's main sea port. It is located almost directly opposite the Acter Industrial section of Alderney. Port Norfolk like neighbouring Norfolk is heavily industrialised and many trucks, trailers and cranes can be found in the area for loading and unloading containers from cargo ships and as a result many containers can be found stacked in the area. The only residential dwellings in this area are a collection of mobile homes located to the east.

11. Thompsonville (based on Rossville, Huguenot and Charleston)
Thompsonville is a large residential neighbourhood located just west of the center of Richmond Island. Most of the area is made up of two story detached and semi detached homes with open gardens giving this area a distinct country feel. Due to the neighbourhoods border with Norfolk it is surrounded by many scrap yards and small industrial properties. There is also a medium sized hospital and a fire department located in the neighbourhood.

12. West Beach (loosely based on South Beach)
West Beach is a large baron sandy beach located to the extreme west of the island. The beach is largely uninhabited and contains many sand dunes and natural ramps and hills which makes the area a virtual playground ideal for cruising around on a dirt bike or the Bandito dune buggy.

13. City Dump (based on the Fresh Kills landfill)
After being previously mentioned in GTA IV the City Dump finally makes it's appearance in Family Ties. Although the dump is technically not a neighbourhood it's sheer size dictates that it be considered it's own individually designated area. The dump is where most of the city's garbage ends up after it is taken from the other boroughs by way of specially constructed boats. The dump doesn't provide much to the player in the way of fun but it will none the less be given a starring role in one particular chapter of the story. Although the dump is technically controlled by the Liberty City Sanitation Department (who in turn work under the rule of the mob) it can just as much be considered to be under the rule of the local army of hobos who call the dump their own, remaining unmoved by the LSD who recently lost a bid to move the hobos on as it was deemed to be a breach of their squatters rights.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 11:12 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 16 November 2017 - 09:04 AM.


Gambetti Family


Named after former boss Salvatore Gambetti, the Gambetti Family is currently the most powerful of the five Liberty City families. The Gambetti Family have far reaching ties all over the city that are said to go as deep as capitol hill. The family consists of between 150 and 200 members as well as over 1500 associates.

Key Members

Jon Gravelli - Boss
Jon Gravelli is the Boss of the Gambetti Crime Family and the highest power on the Liberty City Commission. Gravelli was born in Meadow Hills, Dukes to two Sicilian immigrants in 1923. At the time of Gravelli's birth his future mentor Sonny Cangelosi was a Capo in Salvatore Gambetti's family who eventually ascended to the position of boss after arranging the murder of his former Don. Jon has been involved in La Cosa Nostra business from an early age, starting work in Cangelosi's club at the age of twelve where he served drinks to Liberty City's biggest mobsters on a daily basis. He dropped out of school in the eighth grade to work in the club full time and it was through this work that he also first became affiliated with the mafia, running a small time gambling operation at the age of 17 for which he had his first run in with the law. Although the case (like many others) never saw the inside of a court room thanks to Cangelosi's influence within the city.

No sooner had Jon turned 21 he was officially inducted into the Gambetti crime family, leaving his working class roots behind him once and for all. Over the next 30 years or so Gravelli worked his way up from a low level soldier to the role of acting underboss before taking over the family after Cangelosi's death in 1978. Many mobsters at the time believe that this honor should have went to Cangelosi's older and more experienced underboss Antonio LaRocca and it was feared that his decision to pass the position on to Gravelli (who was little more than a high ranking Capo at the time) would cause a war to break out within the family. The war never materialised however due to the high level of respect Gravelli's underlings had for him and he is still ruling the family with an iron fist (and diseased kidneys) 30 years on. Despite being the subject of a number of arrests and several indictments Gravelli has never spent a day in prison, a fact attributed to his far reaching political and law enforcement connections which are thought to date back to at least 1946 when he was acquitted of attempted murder for shooting a man five times on a Broker street. It is alleged that he paid officer's $5,000 to drop the charges however when the bribery was discovered, the officers refused to admit before a grand jury that they had been paid off, leading to yet another acquittal. In recent years Gravelli has fallen into ill health and is currently a full time resident of the Schottler medical centre in Dukes where he is looked after on a permanent basis by mob enforcer Vincenzo Andolla, the uterine nephew of long time loyal capo Artie Caruso.

Sammy Bottino - Underboss
Sammy Bottino is the former underboss of the Gambetti Family who relinquished his position to Roy Zito after going into hiding in 2007 in order to avoid prosecution for murder in Vice City. Sammy was born in South Broker in 1965 and lived in Little Italy, Algonquin for a time before moving back to Broker with his mother in 1972 after his parents seperated. After moving back to Broker Sammy didn't have much contact with his father who was a former marine and a violent drunk, instead growing up under the wing of his uncle Joseph Montigliano who was a capo in the Lupisella family. Sammy began his criminal career under his uncle's tutelage in his mid teens, stealing cars for him with his crew (who would then either sell them whole or strip them for parts). When Sammy was 18 however his uncle Joey (who was more like a surrogate father to him) was shot dead in a Bohan bodega by an unknown shooter. 
After his uncle's death Sammy became an associate of the Gambetti family and quickly became a big earner due to a lucrative truck highjacking operation he ran with a few of his close friends. Most of Bottino's early criminal career was spent behind bars but his loyalty to the family ensured that he never flipped to get out of jail time a fact that earned him great respect among his fellow mobsters. After a stint for manslaughter in the '80s, Bottino was officially inducted into the family, spearheading the Gambettis expansion into Vice City soon after. Sammy has always had an eye for a good deal and this eye for a good business oppertunity has garnered him the nickname "Sonny" (or "Young Sonny") supposedly after the late Sonny Cangelosi, who in the 60's and 70's established the Gambetti Family as a dominating force in the Liberty City underworld. Despite Bottino's popularity among his peers however he is said to have a long running rivalry with fellow family member Roy Zito. When indictments started being handed out to members of the Gambetti family a year ago he preempted his arrest and went on the run. He is believed to be currently in hiding somewhere out west with his wife and daughter however his exact whereabouts are unknown.
Roy Zito - (Acting) Underboss
Roy Zito is the current underboss of the Gambetti Family. Zito, a former car theif and convicted armed robber was inducted into the family in the 90s and since then has moved up quickly through the ranks all the way to his current position as the family's underboss at the relatively young age of 35. Zito and Don Gravelli are said to have a very close relationship with some sources claiming that Gravelli treats Zito better than his own son with many citing this as the reason for his quick ascent through the family's ranks. This closeness is not thought to have caused any animosity between Zito and Jon Jnr. however as the two are said to be quite close, even being believed to have pulled several scores together in the past.

Outside of his mob business Zito is said to control many legitimate ventures including a popular social club in Broker and a chain of dry cleaners, although these are also expected to be merely fronts for other illegal activities. Since his ascention to underboss Zito has been a hot target for the FIB, however he doesn't seem to be phased by this attention and has been seen on many occasions to act seeminging without fear of prosecution and so far they haven't been able to get any substansial charges against him to stick.
Salvatore ManganoConsigliere
Salvatore Mangano (Born 1943) is said to be the Gambetti Family's current Consigliere. Despite his alleged position as Jon Gravelli's go to guy however there is not a trace of evidence to link Mangano to any criminal activity after the mid '90s. Salvatore's public image is that of a successful entreprenure and part time political activist with some questionable friends, although witnesses and the FIB claim that this is nothing more than a cover up for his true occupation as a ruthless mafioso.

If these sources are to be believed which a recent Liberty Tree article claims "they most definitely are" then Mangano's tenure with the family dates back to the late '60's when he was a simple soldier in the family serving under Don Gravelli himself and over the years he has had a hand in the Gambetti Family's rise to the top of the Liberty City commission, dining with politicians (who he regards as personal friends) and sweet talking police commissioners, making sure evidence against the family never saw the light of day. All of this however is merely speculation.
Nicky BottinoSoldier
Nicky Bottino is a soldier in the Gambetti Family. Being born the illegitimate son of mobster Sammy Bottino while he was serving four years in prison and then growing up in the Broker slums with his drug addict turned prostitute of a mother, "Little" Nicky Bottino was never really given many chances in life. After dropping out of high school Nicky began to look for his eduction elsewhere and started running with a gang of street thugs from his local neighbourhood who eventually lead him down the same criminal path as his father before him. At that time Nicky's main speciality was boosting cars, a skill which garnered him the respect of, then capo, Roy Zito who took Nicky under his wing.

After several years of doing grunt work for the Gambettis, Nicky finally got made into the Family, which served to fill the void left by his detachment from his own family and brought him closer to the father he never really knew. Being the archotypal product of his environment, Nicky is as you'd expect a callous and cold individual who genuinely enjoys voilence and the life of crime, a good man to have by your side by all accounts. Nicky is currently a member of high ranking Capo "Fat" Philly Narducci's crew which also includes Jon Gravelli's nephew Peter Gravelli and his personal bodyguard Vinny Andolla.

Pavano Family


The Pavano Family was first established by an old style Sicilian named Giussepe Pavano and was one of the founding families of the Liberty City Commission in the 1930's. Currently the family sits as the second most powerful family in the city, second only to the Gambettis having previously been the number one family for many years. The Pavano Family have traditionally been a very secretive faction, choosing to shy away from the media spotlight that some members of the other families embrace, deeply regarding the laws of ómerta. The family currently consists of 150 250 made members and well over 1,000 associates.

Key Members

Mary Valvona -  Boss
Mary Valvona otherwise known as "The Godmother" and "The Black Widow" is alleged to be the current boss of the Pavano Family. Born Maria Provenzano in 1948 in Palermo Sicily, Mary first emigrated to America with her widowed father and five siblings at the age of ten and began working in sweat shops around the Liberty City garment district to help support her brothers and sisters due to her father's low wages which he received for working the docks. In order to earn extra money she became involved in drug dealing and prostitution at the age of 12 and through this she became involved in further criminality, once reportedly kidnapping a child from a rich neighbourhood and extorting his parents into giving her money for his return. She was just 13 years old at the time. It was through her work in sweat shops however that she met an older man named Luigi Valvona who ran the seamsters union for Giuseppe Pavano, and the two fell in love, despite their 20 year age gap. Luigi's wealth ensured that she would never have to work again and for years they had a seemingly very happy relationship, but as soon as Luigi became the Don of the Pavano family in the early 80s cracks began to show. Luigi had originally attempted to give her her own independence by setting her up with her own loansharking racket in the mid 70s which eventually lead to a violent assault on one of her customers but the conflict between the two soon reignited and between 1981 and 1989 they were said to have a very volatile relationship, apparently fueled on by a lack of trust due to constant rumours of Mary's cheating with Luigi's subordinates. From this a vicious power struggle between the two lovers ensued that would not become outwardly apparent until the investigation into Luigi's death from poisoning in 1990 (of which Mary was a suspect).

Since the death of her husband many rumours have surrounded Mary Valvona including tales about her violent temper and an apparent addiction to sex with younger men, with government informant and former Pavano enforcer Vito "Dog Meat" Menotti labeling her a "maniac both sexually and mentally". It has also been said of her that she is driven only by money, power and domination with a total disregard for others. Although the truth behind these rumours is yet to be fully established, one must wonder how an elderly woman could control one of the most ruthless and powerful mafia families in America without such a vicious temper and domineering personality. Mary's current boyfriend is a cat burglar named Mario Venturella. Although she is officially in charge of the family recent testimony suggests that she is in fact just a front boss for the alleged family underboss Ercole Romano.

Arthur Zapulla - Consigliere
Arthur Zapulla is the 40 year old former lawyer turned consigliere of the Pavano Family. Zapulla grew up in a prominently Italian neighbourhood in East Holland, the son of a Jewish mother and a Calabrian Father. As a child Arthur was very studious and he excelled in high school, particularly in math. In his late teens Arthur began to put this skill with numbers to use by setting up a small 'business' taking bets on sports games from people in his neighbourhood and ripping off local drunks in card and dice games with the use of card counting and complex probability equations. Through these little scams Arthur soon saw that he was able to make quite a bit of money and he began to favour continuing these activities over going to college. However, Arthur's scams soon caught the attention of local youths who became jealous of him and threatened to hurt him if he didn't cut them in on the action. Not wanting to be extorted by the youths, young Arthur fought back against them, earning him the respect of the (Pavano affiliated) mobsters in the area and shortly afterwards they built up a friendship based on mutual respect. It was from this friendship with these budding mafiosos that Arthur first became affiliated with the mob, rising quickly in their estimation due to his propensity for a good scam.

Around this time Arthur also began having an affair with the wife of the Pavano Family don Mary Valvona, a relationship that would see Zapulla being put through law school on Valvona's money on the pretense that he represent the family in all following trials. As Arthur and Mary began to become more and more enthralled in their affair Pavano boss Luigi Valvona became more and more of an obstacle in their path and it is alleged that they devised and carried out a plan to execute him via poisoning making it initially look like a natural occurrence a plan that put Mary in the position of the Family's boss and eventually placed Arthur at her right hand as the family's consigliere. After this romance ended in the mid 90s it all went a bit downhill for Arthur as he became the co-accused in a federal racketeering case involving his former lover and was subsequently caught in possession of several kilos of cocaine. Zapulla represented himself in both of these cases and managed to win with a (questionably) unanimous verdict of not guilty winning the latter case by convincing the jury that he was reenacting a scene from a vinewood blockbuster for friends. Despite winning these cases his reputation within the legal system was indelibly tarnished and he was disbarred from the law in 2002. Despite him being banned from being a lawyer however, he still provides legal advice to his fellow Pavano family members. In recent years he has also been partly instrumental in modernising the family by getting them involved in stock market and mortgage scams as well as many internet based rackets.
Joe Corrola - Caporegime
Joseph "Joey" Corrola was born in Presidents City, Algonquin in 1975. Growing up Joey developed a reputation around his neighbourhood as a bit of a tough guy and as a kid he would offer protection to smaller kids in the schoolyard for a cut of their lunch money. Being part of a relatively poor family Joey was forced to drop out of school at an early age in order to start working to help support his family. Shortly after dropping out of school he began to live his life as if he were 30 years old, drinking and smoking heavily and staying out until all hours of the night gambling with older men from his neighbourhood. It was also around this time that Joe began working odd jobs for the mob, selling bootlegged cigarettes and stealing cars.

When he was in his early twenties Joey began a relationship with Mary Valvona and like Arthur Zapulla before him he was elevated quickly within the family's ranks, becoming a capo only a matter of years after being inducted into the family, taking over from notorious heroin trafficker Mario Mad Dog Ciccone, his former mentor, after he was sent to prison in 1998. In the position of capo Corrola was given charge of his own crew which began to specialise in the importation and sale of drugs, particularly heroin and took control of the Humboldt River dock workers union, using it as a front for importing drugs. Corrola has also become known for having close bonds with African American criminals seeing them as a way to make extra cash that would put the Pavanos ahead of other families on the commission due to them typically only working with Italian Americans. Corrola is noted for being quite proud of his appearance and often splashes out on expensive suits and jewellry and brushes his naturally curled hair frequently even between hits, being once quoted as saying "If I'm gonna whack a guy I want him to see how handsome his killer was before he hits the dirt".
Louie Santoro - Soldier
Louis The Cowboy Santoro was born in Liberty City in 1977 and grew up in the same neighbourhood as Joe Corrola. Growing up Louie was always fascinated by the high rolling criminals and he would often commit petty crimes in an attempt to impress them. When Louie reached his early twenties his dreams finally came true when he was inducted in to the Pavano family as part of Joe Corrolas crew of budding young gangsters. Over the years Louie has become a good earner for the family and has created a lot of connections for them all over the city, taking a more hands on approach to the drug market than his boss Joe Corrola. Louie has often been described as having an addictive personality and he has over the years had many problems with gambling and drugs which many people say have prevented him from moving higher than his current position within the family. Despite his outward appearance as a small time drug dealer however Louie is a shrewd businessman with some powerful connections.

In mob circles over the years Santoro has earned himself a reputation as a bit of a renegade and often goes off on his own and commits crimes that have not been authorised by his superiors, often earning him the ire of authority figures within the family. Despite his apparent lone wolf style of operation and dislike for authority however he often acts on what he feels will benefit the family in the long run and feels that he is not given enough credit for his work. On the flip side at times, mainly due to his admiration of mobsters growing up, Santoro is said to be very respectful in the company of those above him and has been known to be very loyal, at least to his captain Joe Corrola who is said to be one of the only men able to keep him in check. Many have said that Santoro (and others like him) are a sign of the future of a Cosa Nostra run by young turks with a chip on their shoulder and a hot burning fire in their bellies, others say that they will be it's downfall.

Messina Family


The Messina Family is said to have been created by Giuseppe "Big Joe" Messina, a sicilian immigrant. The Messina family is said to be the third most powerful family in Liberty City after the Pavanos and the Gambettis. Over the years the family have become known mostly for their business sense and it is believed that is what has elevated them to the bronze medal position in the Liberty City commission. The family currently comprises of 115-130 made members and over 500 associates.

Key Members

Harvey Noto - Boss
Harvey Noto is the current Boss of the Messina Family. He was born in Dukes, Liberty City in 1942 to two second generation Italian immigrants. Noto grew up in a rough neighbourhood on the border of Steinway and East Island City, later moving to the affluent neighbourhood of Meadow Hills. As a teen he garnered a reputation around his neighbourhood for being a delinquent and was frequently seen hanging around with drug dealers and low lives. He first became involved in carjacking in his early teens and when he turned 17 Noto was taken under the wing of a Capo within the Dukes based Messina family named Dominick Pistone who put Noto to work as an enforcer in his loan sharking operation due to his domineering appearance. After learning the tricks of the trade from Pistone, Noto began his own loansharking operation for which he was arrested in 1960. On this occasion Noto was released without charge due to insufficient evidence (since nobody dared testify) but he was arrested later that same year for extorting a local florist earning him an 18 month prison term. From prison Noto allegedly had the man's business burned to the ground.
Some years after his release from prison Harvey was officially inducted into the Messina Family and moved up to the position of Capo ahead of his own crew just ten years after becoming a made man. By the early 60s many Messina family members began to question the leadership of patriarch Big Joe Messina, one of these being Noto's mentor Dominick Pistone, largely due to him spending most of his time away from Liberty City and promoting his son Joseph 'Little Joe' Messina to the position of consigliere even though he was unqualified for the role. At this time Noto began to openly dispise Joe Messina and he and Pistone turned their attention to taking him out of his position by any means necessary. Noto also having a personal hatred for Joe Jnr. who in turn disliked Noto due to his involvement in narcotics (for which he was eventually arrested in 1970). Due to a failed assassination attempt by Noto, the senior Messina grew fearful of his life and he and his son moved away from Liberty City and the commission installed long time loyalist Tomaso "Tommy" Borelli as his replacement. When Borelli died he was replaced by former Messina underboss Vincent Caruso who was eventually murdered by Pistone's faction. Left with no other choice The Commission officially named Noto's mentor Dominick Pistone as the new boss of the family, a decision which was largely attributed to the influence of Noto's Meadow Hills neighbour Jon Gravelli who had long been a friend of Pistone and his supporters. This decision was immediately contested by certain members of the family and a civil war broke out which lasted for several years. In 1982 Noto had two of his underlings kill his former mentor due to his increasing volatility after becoming boss and later that year he and Messina had a famous meeting at the top of the observation towers in Meadows Park to discuss their differences that ended in Messina falling to his death from the top of the structure. Charges of manslaughter were brought against Noto but in the end it was ruled as an accident. Noto's actions did however earn him the wrath of some of the other families who attempted to assassinate him in the mid 80s. Over time however these issues were ironed out thanks once again in part to Don Gravelli and Noto became the undisputed boss of the Messina family with his longtime friend Charles "Chucky" D'Amato (the family's current Underboss) by his side. In the early days he was seen as too flashy and too volatile to effectively lead a family - a trait also attributed to Pistone, but since the late 80s he has mellowed out and become an expert at avoiding the FIB's glare in a fashion more akin to old school bosses like Big Joe and others of his era. In fact to this day his family still carries the name of it's former patriarch 'out of respect for the late great Joe Messina' and is one of the dominating forces on the commission, largely due to Noto's influence.

Harry Hall - Consigliere
Harry Hall is currently the consigliere of the Messina Family. Harry was born in Steinway, Dukes in 1948 to an Irish American mother and an estranged father who was believed to be of Sicilian descent. Harry's mother (who was a dancer) had many wealthy boyfriends who temporarily took on the role of his father and would buy him and his mother many nice things. As a young boy up until he was in his late teens Harry would often hang around the various clubs and bars where his mother would dance and would often entertain the other female dancers with song and dance numbers and stand up comedy routines, earning him a reputation as a bit of a ladies man quite early on. Around this time however young Harry would also be frequently exposed to the seedier side of the the Liberty City club scene, rubbing shoulders with drug users and scumbags on a regular basis. Years later Harry would himself become more and more involved in this scene and eventually began selling drugs and pimping whores, becoming quite wealthy as a result. In an attempt to keep himself out of trouble, in 1965 at the age of 17, Hall enlisted in the Army, at the height of the Vietnam war but after three years of service (during which his mother had died) he returned to Liberty City and met his future wife Catherine the following year. Over the next few years however Harry became re-involved in crime and was soon a big player in the worlds of prostitution and narcotics. It was around this time he caught the eye of Lupisella Family associate and fellow Irishman Mickey Callaghan who for a time took Hall under his wing.
Through his work selling pussy and drugs Harry also became friends with many other notorious criminals around Dukes and Algonquin including Liberty City's Cosa Nostra families and members of the once powerful Irish Mob. Determined to be successful despite his acquired status as one of the big players in the underworld however Harry began to move into many legitimate and semi-legitimate ventures in the latter part of the 1970s, even managing to put himself through law school and setting up a million dollar private escort agency which acted as a front for full on prostitution and the production of hardcore porn movies. Around this time Hall got introduced to Messina Capo Harvey Noto. Impressed by Hall's ability to take the most illegal practices and make them seem above board, the future Boss formed a close bond with him. This friendship would later serve Harry well as when Noto took over the family, he took him on as his right hand man, serving primarily in an advisory capacity. It is thought by some that many family members thought of it as somewhat of an insult to have a man that was not fully Italian in such an esteemed position, these concerns however were usually met with unfavourable results when brought to the attention of Hall or Noto and over time they began to simply fade away. Often times Hall's mixed ancestry has worked to his advantage though, especially when it comes to prosecution for his mob membership since the notion of him being put forward as the family's consigliere would seem rediculous due to the Mafia's strong traditions of only inducting full blooded Italians into their inner circle, a fact that frustrates those who know otherwise. Although Harry is said to be proud of his Irish ancestry he has been known to try to disguise it. One method he used in the past was to dye his naturally ginger hair blonde. This however backfired in one notable instance where he attempted to bleach his own hair and ended up mistakenly pouring a hydrochloric acid solution over his head which lead to him losing much of his hair. For years he would cover up his bald patch by wearing a variety of hats, even while indoors, garnering him the nickname of "Harry the Hat" among mob circles. He has since managed to get a hair transplant but some people still refer to him by his former moniker "The Hat", possibly in order to circumvent FIB wiretaps.
Mark Volpe - Caporegime
Mark Anthony Volpe was born in Dukes in 1963. He is currently a capo within the Messina family and is one half of the infamous Volpe brothers. Mark and his brother were mischievous youths and would frequently be brought home in a cop car. Mark, who's father Mark senior's brother Alfredo had been a mobster, began his career with the Messina family as a hitman for Harvey Noto (who would often pay young thugs to carry out hits) in the late 70's before even becoming an adult. In 1982 he was sentenced to ten years in prison for the Murder of Noto's former mentor Dominick Pistone in a Dukes opticians due to him standing in the way of Noto becoming the family's boss, witnesses said that Pistone literally never saw it coming since he had removed his glasses to try on another pair.

After his release from prison Mark became a fully fledged made man (as a reward for him murdering Pistone) and set up a lucrative loansharking and extortion operation on behalf of the family. Seemingly unfazed by his long stint in prison, Mark continued to carry out hits for Noto earning him two separate manslaughter convictions in 1994 and 1996. In late 1996 after being cleared in his second manslaughter case he was also promoted to Capo and he and his crew set up a sports betting ring operating throughout the four Liberty City Boroughs. Mark is said to have a violent temper and often beats people for little or no reason, once putting a parking attendant in a coma for giving him a ticket. He is also fiercely defensive of his family and is profusely intolerant to anybody speaking bad of them, once notoriously cutting out the tongue of enforcer Johnny Tightlips Ruggiero for suggesting his brother Fredo was a police informant. Despite the fact that these claims are actually true, the elder Volpe had managed to largely fly under the governments radar due Fredo feeding his handlers false information and never recording incriminating conversations with him. That was until he was indicted for a city wide illegal gambling operation in 2000 (the second such indictment against him in two years). Thanks to Fredo's wiretap the government managed to collect a large amount of damning evidence against him but decided not to use it so as not to prematurely expose Fredo as an informant. In recent years Mark himself has become suspected of being an informant although members of the family are not so quick to accuse him, preferring to hold their tongue until some actual evidence emerges to implicate him of being a rat. He is however currently awaiting sentencing on his third manslaughter conviction which may cast doubts among his superiors who fear he may flip to avoid prosecution.
Fredo Volpe - Caporegime
Alfredo Fredo Volpe is a 42 year old capo within the Messina Family and is also the younger brother of fellow Messina capo Mark Volpe. As a youngster Fredo would constantly hang around his brother Mark and the two were said to have a very close bond. Like his brother Fredo also often found himself in trouble with the law for committing petty crimes and was said to have quite a knack for pick pocketing. Fredo's work with the Messina Family began around the same time as his brother's and he would often accompany him on hits for Harvey Noto, including the slaying of boss Dominick Pistone, acting as Mark's getaway driver in that instance. Following the hit on Pistone, Fredo was put on trial for the murder along with his brother, escaping with an accessory charge for his part in the crime while Mark was sentenced to ten years. Fredo blamed himself for his brother going to prison believing that he somehow lead the police to finding out that it was him who was behind the hit. This guilt sent Fredo into a depression and in turn forced him to become addicted to drugs which he also sold for the Messinas in his late teens. After many tough years Fredo eventually got clean and he began to earn big for the family through the execution of several big robberies on banks and stores around the city and became a made man in his brother's absence.
For many years Fredo continued to work hard for the family and two years after his brother he got promoted to capo in 1998. That same year Fredo was caught with a large shipment of stolen benzodiazepines and was arrested. Due to the value of the drugs in question and Volpe's arrest record he was facing up to 20 years so seeing an opportunity to gather information on the Messina Family the LCPD propositioned the newly made capo about becoming a police informant. Fredo initially refused but when played a tape of his father in law Harry Hall threatening to cut his balls off he became concerned for his own safety and quickly changed his mind and was released back into the family as a rat. It is believed that over the past ten years Fredo has collected enough incriminating evidence to bring down the whole Messina Family and its associates.
Jimmy Capra - Soldier
James Jimmy The Goat Capra was born in 1968 and grew up in the same neighbourhood as Mark and Fredo Volpe and would occasionally hang out and commit petty crimes with the two brothers. Capra was reportedly bullied throughout his childhood by his peers due to being overweight and having an absentee father who was frequently in trouble with the law. Capra suffered in silence for many years but eventually he began to stand up for himself resulting in violent altercations which usually ended with the other person being severely beaten or stabbed. Like Jimmy, his father Alberto was also a violent man and had been a famous mobster for the Gambettis in the 1970s. Despite this Jimmy eventually opted to join the Messina family instead due to a belief that the Gambettis were involved in his father's murder, an event which is said to have effected him deeply in his teens and caused him psychological stress which lead to him being reclusive, showing no interest in making friends or developing romantic relationships. Eventually however he began to hang around with his old friend Fredo Volpe once again. Capra had been expelled from school due to his violent nature and found solace with the other neighbourhood truants and hoodlums who would give him validation for carrying out vicious beatings on their behalf. This connection eventually led to him becoming involved with the Messina family in the late '80s. Upon becoming involved with the Messinas he performed many brutal hits for them throughout the 1980s and 90s. 
Over the years Capra has become increasingly famous among mob circles for his violent temper and the genuine pleasure he takes in killing with some mobsters labeling him a complete and utter psychopath. Recent testimony from mob informant Fredo Volpe describes him as the nastiest and most intimidating man he has ever met in all of his years as a mobster detailing his penchant for cutting up his victims after he has murdered them. Capra is also said to be frequently violent towards women and once savagely beat one of Harry Hall's prostitutes for refusing to have sex with him causing her to leave work permanently. This incident caused a temporary rift between Capra and Hall but their relationship has since been mended and they now work together distributing pornography. It is unknown exactly where Capra got his unusual nickname (which he reportedly hates), it may simply just be reference to his surname "Capra" (which means "Goat" in Italian) or it may have something to do with the ritualistic way in which he carries out the act of murder. Aside from being a violent enforcer, Capra is also involved in many lucrative businesses, running a car dealership, an auto repair shop and part owning a restaurant in Little Italy with fellow mobster Bobby The Bull Sarafino.
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Lupisella Family


The Lupisella Family has roots dating back to the early 20th century although it wasn't officially known as the Lupisella Family until the father of the current patriarch Vincent Lupisella took over from the original boss Antonio "Toni" Polizzi in the 1950's. The Lupisella family has long been known as the most violent and ruthless of the five families and many believe that it is this "street thug attitude" that has held them back over the years and placed them at their current position as the second smallest family in the city. The families current membership stands at 100-150 made men and 1,000+ associates.

Key Members

Vincent Lupisella - Boss
Vincenzo “Vincent” Lupisella is the 79 year old alleged Don of the Lupisella Family. Lupisella was born in 1929 in a prominently Italian neighbourhood in the Liberty City Borough of Bohan. Vincent and his twin brother Carmine Jnr. were destined to be mobsters from a young age due to them being born into an already powerful mob family in which their father Carmine Lupisella Snr. was the Underboss. Vincenzo and his brother had a very traditional Sicilian upbringing and despite their father being a ruthless mobster he would often attempt to teach them his own skewed version of right and wrong, refusing to send them to school due to his lack of belief in the American education system. In typical aspiring criminal fashion Vincent had a childhood and early adolescence filled with mischief and run ins with the law.  At the age of 19 Vincent secured his first full fledged criminal conviction for highjacking a truck loaded with cigarettes, partly taking the fall for his brother who fled the scene when the cops showed up. While in prison on this conviction he got into a violent altercation with a fellow inmate which ended in his death. Vincent was tried for manslaughter but was later acquitted when it was found he had acted in self defense. Over the next ten years or so Vincent acquired a string of other convictions including Armed Robbery and Extortion which gave him a high level of notoriety with the police. When Vincent was in his early twenties his father became the boss of what would soon come to be known as the Lupisella Family and he and his brother were both made shortly thereafter.

At the age of 32, now a capo in his father’s family Vincent met a wife Rosalie and the two had a baby named Francis. In 1967 Vincent’s life took an unfortunate turn when his father was diagnosed with cancer which meant that he would need to name a successor before his death. Carmine was adamant that the family be handed over to one of his sons but didn’t know which of the two twins to give it to. This caused a huge rivalry between Vincent and his brother Carmine Jnr. who began to try and out earn and out class one another in order to show their father that they deserved to be the family’s new leader. This rivalry carried on for over a year and ended in Vincent killing his brother in a drunken rage, an event that was said to have broken Carmine Snr’s heart and caused Vincent psychological problems in later life. Regardless of the circumstances however with only Vincent left alive the family ultimately fell under his control when his father died in 1969, making him one of the youngest bosses in the history of LC's La Cosa Nostra at just 40 years old. However his ascension to boss was closely followed by him being arrested for conspiracy to import narcotics in 1970 as part of a large scale international drug trafficking operating also involving Harvey Noto of the Messina family. He did however manage to escape prison on this occasion and would not have another run in with the law for almost another twenty years. During his tenure as the family’s boss a lot of media attention has surrounded Lupisella. This is mainly due to his extreme paranoia and his frequently odd behaviour such as going on walks through Middle Park dressed in a bathrobe and talking to his subordinates in cryptic code that even they don’t understand. He is also said to be extremely intolerant to the notion of informants within his family, brutally killing anybody who he suspects (often wrongfully) of being a rat – a job traditionally given to his personal hitman and trusted enforcer Sonny Honarato who would often pluck his victim’s eyebrows as a calling card before depositing their bodies in the Humboldt river. During his time as boss of the family he has controlled many lucrative rackets in the city including a monopoly on all of the windows that the Liberty City housing authority fitted in the project buildings in Bohan during the 70's and 80's as home heating costs began to soar. In 2001 he was arrested and charged with racketeering, it wasn't until 2004 however that he was finally brought to trial. During that time period, his lawyers claimed that he suffered from Alzheimer's Disease and was therefore unfit to stand trial while simultaneously blocking any state sponsored tests to verify these claims. The following year he was indicted on charges of obstruction of justice. Federal prosecutors alleged that he continued to rule the Lupisellas despite claiming that he had retired from the mob, and also accused him of causing a three year delay in his previous trial by feigning mental illness. Lupisella was eventually found not guilty and federal prosecutors decided not to pursue the case any further. Although Lupisella does not currently wield as much power as he did twenty years ago he is still believed to be quite a force to be reckoned with.

Mark Lupisella - Underboss/Street Boss
Mark Lupisella was born in Bohan in 1958. Being the son of a capo within the Lupisella family and the grandson of the family’s don, Mark grew up constantly surrounded by mobsters and at the age of 10 he was taken under his uncle Vincent Lupisella's wing after the death of his father Carmine. As a child Mark did quite badly in school due to an undiagnosed learning disability and he was often teased by his peers who called him dumb. Not wanting to mollycoddle him, his uncle Vincent put him into a local boxing club so that he could learn to stand up to those who tormented him. As Mark grew into a teenager he became very good at the sport and would often fight men almost twice his age due to his large stature. He was also a very ruthless fighter and once beat a man to death in the ring leading to an arrest for manslaughter. After this Mark didn’t stick at boxing for much longer and due to his lack of education and prospects it was inevitable that he would eventually become involved in the family business.


Mark began his criminal career as a low level enforcer in his uncle’s organisation shaking down union bosses and beating up degenerate gamblers with overdue debts. Around this time Mark also garnered the nickname “Loopy” due in part to his low IQ but also his notoriously short temper and the violent acts that he committed on anybody who dared question him or his family. It is a nickname that Lupisella apparently hates however and nobody ever dares call him it to his face. He was officially inducted into the Lupisella family in 1982. Mark’s intimidation skills soon became a valuable asset to the family and won them control over many profitable rackets around the city, which earned him a promotion to capo in 1990 after serving five years in prison for manslaughter. During this time his uncle Vincent was also in prison awaiting trial on Racketeering charges so Mark was afforded effective control over the family. As a family member, he was one of the few people allowed to visit his uncle, so he is believed to have relayed his orders to the rest of the organization. In 1998 Mark officially became the family’s underboss being seated directly below his uncle, once again taking control of the family’s day to day activities due to his uncle's semi-retirement, some within mob circles believe this elevation was partly due to Vincent Lupisella's guilt over the death of Mark's father. Five years later Mark eventually took full control over the family although many believe that this move was purely tactical on Vincent Lupisella's part in order to avoid prosecution for federal racketeering charges that were brought against the heads of two of the other four families on the Liberty City commission. The main reasoning behind these claims is that Mark is simply just too dumb to be capable of running a multimillion dollar organisation without a large amount of help from his elderly uncle. Mark is also the father of Carlo's friend Dani Lupisella.
Frank Lupisella - Caporegime
Frank “Frankie Boy” Lupisella was born in 1963 and is the son of Vincent Lupisella. Frank first became an associate of the Lupisella family in the late 1980s and back then would often perform menial tasks for his father and his men such as driving them around and running errands for them. Frankie eventually became a made man in the mid 90s although many within the family (including Mark Lupisella) believed that he was undeserving of the honor and only got made because of his father's esteemed position. In the early days while serving as a Lupisella soldier, Frank also worked a legitimate job in the Liberty City sanitation department although he was forced to leave the job in early 2001 due to an occupational accident that to this day has left him with a limp in his walk.

Shortly after being put out of work Frank was also put on the shelf by the Lupisella family due to his inability to carry out many of the tasks given to him. As a result of this Frank became deeply depressed and developed a nervous disposition as well as addictions to alcohol and gambling during this time it is believed that he was partly disowned by his father who began to favour his cousin Mark more and more, a fact which quietly caused Frankie great pain and anger. Despite everybody’s low expectations for Frank however he managed to get clean in 2005 and began to earn big for the family through a lucrative numbers racket and fixed sports contests. This earned him a promotion to capo in 2007. Frank has since partially relapsed on his drinking and gambling habits but still manages to bring in enough money for the family to justify his position as capo. Frankie also runs an express car service from an office in Bohan.
Moe Schwartz - Associate
Maurice “Moe” Schwartz was born 1939 to Jewish American parents who originally emigrated from the Ukraine. Schwartz grew up in the predominantly Italian, crime ridden neighborhood of Little Bay but had a relatively affluent upbringing compared to others and didn’t get involved in criminality until his mid 20s, a rarity in working class East Bohan, although some believe that he previously had ties to Jewish gangsters in the city. Over the next twenty years or so he became heavily involved in loansharking for the Lupisellas, handling all of the books for their citywide operations. As time went by he also grew closer to family Don Vincent Lupisella and would act as his occasional chauffeur, once picking up a speeding ticket while driving him away from the feds when they came to arrest him on conspiracy charges. In his mid 40s he also began to serve directly as Lupisella's accountant in the height of his reign as the boss of the family. Due to Moe’s exceptional accountancy work for Vincent Lupisella the two men have forged a close bond over the years, this being evident by the fact that Lupisella trusts Schwartz with sensitive financial information that could put him in prison for a very long time. During his years of service for the Lupisella family Schwartz had read a lot of books on the subject of law, information that he has often used to help Vincent Lupisella and his underlings avoid prison on many occasions.

Due to his acquired knowledge of the law it is believed that Lupisella also uses Schwartz in an advisory capacity like a de facto consigliere of sorts (in addition to acting consigliere Giacomo "Jackie" Dimiglia). On top of all of this Schwartz is also said to have great business sense and is believed to have helped Vincent Lupisella take control of many rackets over the years particularly his labour and gambling rackets which have made the family (and Schwartz personally) quite rich. Despite his vast level of knowledge about things however Schwartz is notoriously tight lipped and is said to be extremely paranoid about FIB survaillence operations, only ever speaking to those within the Lupisella's inner circle. As a result he once spent almost a year communicating exclusively through spreadsheets so that the feds could not record him discussing mafia business, a move so crazy it worked.

Ancelotti Family

The Ancelotti Family were formed in the 1930's and were originally known as the Bianco Family (after original boss Vincent Bianco) before changing their name after being taken over by the uncle of current boss Giovanni Ancelotti. They are currently the least powerful of the five families in the city. The Ancelotti Family have often been considered to be rogue agents in many ways with many of the other families openly disliking them because of some of their actions. Despite this they are still a force to be reckoned with within the city. The Ancelottis current membership stands at 100 made members and 500 associates.


Key Members

Giovanni Ancelotti - Boss
Giovanni Ancelotti was born in Naples, Italy in 1930 and grew up in a war torn country ruled by Mussolini's facist regime. Young Giovanni first got involved in crime in his mid teens when he began to sell contraband to national and visiting soldiers who passed through his village during the war. When Mussolini was killed Giovanni took advantage of the poverty left in his wake, forming a small street gang with his peers he began extorting local business owners who attempted to rebuild their lives after they were crippled by the destruction of the city's conflicts. At the age of 18 Giovanni was jailed for robbery and spent the next two years in prison. Upon his release in 1950 Giovanni was sent to live with his uncle Giorgio Ancelotti in Liberty City by his parents. What Giovanni's parents didn't know however was that since leaving Italy uncle Giorgio had become a member of Liberty City's honored society otherwise known as the Mafia. Shortly after arriving in America Giovanni began working for his uncle in the Alderney Fruit markets. Through his work in the markets Giovanni began spending a lot of time with his uncle's mob associates and began to get involved once again in criminal activity, the very thing he had been sent over by his parents to get away from, setting up a fencing and loansharking operation in the markets. Giovanni's first arrest in America came in 1951 for possesion of stolen property a mere 12 months after arriving in the country. Another arrest came the following year for extortion of other stall owners. Giovanni received only a light sentence on both charges but he exited prison with a clear life plan – to be the top of the heap in Liberty City's underworld with his first order of business being to further legitimise his extortion racket by establishing a trade association of market stall operators and take control of the industry on a city wide level. Any operator who refused to join the Association and pay its stiff fees faced vandalism and physical assault. Through this venture he became one of the most feared and respected mobsters on the streets under the age of thirty with a large source of income he used to finance his loansharking operations which became one of the most lucrative in the city due to the fear that he instilled in people.


Over the next few years Giovanni built up a reputation as a high roller, living the life of a millionaire playboy on the strength of his work for the mob, being seen in all of Liberty City's top nightspots and driving the busy streets in the fanciest sports cars. It was this lifestyle which secured him his fourth American arrest for the vehicular manslaughter of another club goer who he drunkenly ran over in his Grotti. The charges were dropped however when witnesses found out who he was and refused to testify. His flashy lifestyle however also became a thorn in the side of many of the old school mafiosos around the city despite being openly embraced by uncle Giorgio who gave young Giovanni one promotion after another until he began serving as his underboss in 1972. Although things were going good for Giovanni around this time the same could not be said for the rest of the Ancelotti family who began to fall out of favour with the other families on the commission due to infighting and their new school approach to conducting 'family business' which went against most of the traditional rules laid down by the founding fathers of la cosa nostra, leading to the family being temporarily kicked off of the commission and a contract being put on Giorgio Ancelotti's head by Jon Gravelli who considered their actions to be a personal insult. The younger Ancelotti (acting on his uncles authority) allegedly used their exclusion from the commission to their advantage however and had several people "made" into his family, even though the "books" had officially been closed since the late 1950s. Towards the end of the 1970s the family managed to work their way back into the commission's good graces, however this was shortly followed by the death of Giorgio Ancellotti from natural causes in 1978. After his uncle's death Giovanni took full control over the family and began a new chapter in it's checkered history. Around this time he also became a proud husband and father marrying his much younger girlfriend Jeanie Pelosi who gave birth to a beautiful daughter named Gracie shortly thereafter. This new chapter brought with it the induction of many young gangsters in the late 80s and early 90s earning the operation the nickname of the “mob's playground” and Giovanni the moniker of “Old man Ancelotti” partly due to his paternal relationship with many of his young soldiers but also as an outside joke due to Ancelotti's distaste for aging and desire to be eternally young in the eyes of those around him. During his time as the boss of the family Giovanni has both impressed and aggravated his fellow commissioners with his unortadoxed but often successful business practices and his flamboyant attitude making him one of the most interesting mafia dons of all time.

Charlie Matteo - Underboss
Charles ”Chubby Charlie" Matteo was born in Alderney City in 1948 and first began working as loan shark for the Ancelotti Family in the early 60s under Capo Joseph Annunziato, eventually taking over his crew when he died from a heart attack in 1978. After meeting Giovanni Ancelotti while working at the Alderney fruit market the two became close and he has been his close confidant since he took over in the late 70s. In the following years Matteo quickly gained a reputation as an exceptional loan shark who would always find a way to collect on his loans quickly by imposing large interest rates which ensured that money was never long out of his pocket. The operation is said to have surpassed that of even Giovanni Ancelotti himself, a fact which ultimately gained him his upmost respect. The secret to the loansharking operation was that he would lend to the lowest common denominator and charge victims from 250 to 300% interest annually, generating over a million dollars per year in revenue for the family. Despite these exorbitant interest rates however Charlie is described by many people as a perfect gentleman who would always help out a person in need (even if he did end up leaving them even further out of pocket in the process) and during the late 70s and early 1980s it is suggested that he handed out and collected on more loans than the bank of liberty. Behind this well mannered exterior however lies the heart of a truly ruthless criminal who has been responsible for some of the most heinous crimes in the entire state of Alderney adding extortion, murder, burglary, money laundering, drug trafficing, illegal gambling and cruelty to animals to his repertoire of services that already included loansharking and deception. In 1982, he allegedly participated in the accidental killing of a Catholic nun who was killed by a stray bullet during the assassination of a rival mobster. He was convicted of manslaughter and served three years in prison for his part in the killing.


Over the years Ancelotti and Matteo developed a very close bond so when Ancelotti took over his uncle's organisation in 1978 it was inevitable that Chubby Charlie would eventually become his devoted underboss. As the Ancelotti's enterprise grew in the 1980s they began to split their business between Liberty City's five boroughs and the state of Alderney, a move which proved a little difficult for Giovanni Ancelotti to effectively manage. For this reason Matteo was given control over his own off-shoot of the family surprisingly known as 'The Alderney Crew' or 'The Alderney Boys' due to its membership which at one time included a young Rocco Pelosi and his not so young uncle Vincenzo (who just so happen to be Giovanni's guido inlaws). Together the duo of Matteo and Ancelotti have been very sucessful over the years but Charlie has allegedly taken a more hands off approach in recent years following an indictment on racketeering charges in 2001 which saw him being let out on bail a couple of days later. For years following the indictment Matteo had been at large on the Alderney streets awaiting a trial that didn't materialise until late 2006, although Matteo never showed up for the hearing and has been “on the run” ever since. Insiders speculate however that Matteo is quite low down on the LCPD's list of priorities meaning that he is pretty much free to do as he pleases. Matteo is also said to represent the Ancelotti family on the commission at times when Giovanni is unable to attend despite his status as a fugitive.
Anthony Spoleto - Caporegime
Anthony “Tony Black” Spoleto was born in Little Italy, Algonquin in 1953. He first got involved with the Ancelotti family quite young highjacking trucks from rest stops for them when he was just 16 and in the early 70s he began working a lucrative tobacco importation operation which was what first brought him to prominence within the family and eventually got him made. After being inducted into the family Spoleto became quite successful in bookmaking, loansharking and extortion but often found it hard to hold on to money due to a penchant for gambling, often unsuccessfully. Some of Spoleto's other vices are said to be keeping pigeons, which he used to race on a regular basis and collecting exotic fish which he would keep in a massive fish tank in his Middle Park East apartment. Aside from his love for animals Spoleto has been often described as a serial womaniser and would often be seen out on the town with multiple different women in the space of a week. He has a reputation as a killer but on a daily basis is not prone to violence. A notable exception to this however was the murder of his former capo Federico "Firefly Freddie" Langella in 1974, apparently as a favour to the ailing Sonny Cangelosi. Spoleto was arrested for the crime but managed to plead it down to manslaughter. Spoleto was released on bail and subsequently fled to Las Venturas. He was eventually captured however and was sent to prison to serve out his sentence.


Shortly after his release from prison Spoleto was promoted to caporegime – a position he still keeps to this day. It has been said by many that Spoleto is a remarkably savvy capo who is very interested in traditional mafia values and the laws of omerta. In 1985 he was indicted on racketeering charges in relation to a gasoline bootlegging scheme he ran with fellow Ancelotti mobster Nicky Voletto and ended up spending the next ten years in prison. Despite being a stone cold gangster he is said to run his crew in a remarkably laid back manner and is exceptionally courteous and respectful to those both inside and outside his family wether they be a high ranking capo or a low level associate. Largely due to his great people skills Spoleto has in recent times been appointed as the family's liaison with the Albanian mob who the Ancelotti's use as extra muscle to make up for their relatively small membership. Spoleto owns many lucrative rackets around the city and conducts most of his business either from his fuel depot in Northwood or a restaurant he owns and operates in Little Italy.
Frankie Garone - Caporegime
Francisco “Frankie” Garone was born in 1977 in the same Little Italy apartment block where Anthony Spoleto was born and raised. Originally a member of a youth gang which contained many relatives of Ancelotti made men Garone had effectively been preparing himself to be a wise guy since he was in his early teens. His father had also been a member of the Ancelotti family but was murdered when he was just a few years old. Growing up without a father figure young Frankie was a particularly mischievous youth who grew up idolising the father he never really knew so it was somewhat inevitable that he would one day follow in his footsteps and become a made man. He first made a name for himself performing hits for the Ancelottis during a tumultuous period in the early 90s and he, along with many of his peers, was eventually inducted into the as part of a mass induction ceremony in the late 90s which came shortly after the Ancelottis began to lose power around the city. After becoming a made man Frankie was taken under the wing of Anthony “Tony Black” Spoleto and the two became quite close due to them growing up in the same area. As part of Spoleto's crew Frankie became involved mostly in robberies and drug dealing – a practice that Spoleto wasn't too keen on but allowed to happen within his crew due to the large profits that could be made from it. In addition to dealing drugs however Garone often also takes them (and in the case of cocaine) quite regularly which has been seen to have had detrimental effects on his personality turning him into a cold hearted killer.


Despite being quite trigger happy however he has gained quite a reputation for carrying out hits with special agent like precision and has been known to have made quite a few people literally disappear with many of his victim's bodies having never been discovered meaning that despite being charged twice with manslaughter he has never been convicted. Outside the discretion with which he commits murder however Frankie also has a reputation for being quite flashy and loud, often being photographed by police and paparazzi falling out of nightclubs drunk and arriving at exclusive celebrity parties in flashy automobiles with heiresses and socialites on one arm and throwing two fingers up to the photographers with the other. In spite of this however Garone has risen quite quickly within the family and by his mid 20s he had reportedly been made a capo of his own crew, although his promotion within the family couldn't have come at a worse time since in the following years the bosses and other high ranking members of 3 out of the 5 family's on the commission were indicted on federal racketeering charges as part of a 5 year long operation by the FIB and special detectives within the LCPD. Garone is said to have quite a close bond with Don Giovanni Ancelotti and some say that Giovanni wants him to marry his daughter Gracie so that he can officially become part of the family.
Paulie Gianco - Caporegime
”Big” Paulie Gianco was born in 1958 in Lower Algonquin and was surrounded by the mob from an early age having had an uncle named Tommy “Two Guns” Gianco who was a soldier in the Messina Family and owned a cab stand in Little Italy where many mobsters would often hang out. For years Big Paulie worked a legitimate job in a Pizzeria and his first steps into the world of the mob didn't come until the early 80's after his uncle Tommy's death, when he became the protege of an influential Messina capo by the name of Charlie Lombardo, for whom he worked as a loanshark while simultaneously learning the ways of the honoured society. Gianco continued on as a Messina associate in sunny Vice City (having went there with Lombardo to look after his interests). While in Vice City Gianco became heavily involved in dealing cocaine, which he would ship back to Liberty City on a regular basis. After Lombardo's death Gianco returned home to Liberty City where he continued to deal in drugs and began dealing primarily with the Ancelotti family of which he became a member in 1992. Three years later in 1995 Gianco was caught in possession of a large amount of cocaine and was sentenced to ten years in prison but served less than half when the conviction was overturned on a technicality.

Undeterred by his stint in the joint Gianco continued to deal in the lucrative drug market upon his release. Through drug dealing Gianco was making the Ancelotti family more money than they had seen since their glory days in the 50s and 60s which ushered in his promotion to capo shortly thereafter. In the early days Gianco had a reputation for being a capo who liked to get his hands dirty and deal with everybody he did business with face to face, but this soon led to Gianco once again being arrested for drug related offenses, being released soon after due to insufficient evidence. This latest arrest however caused Gianco to become quite paranoid and began to adapt his activities to ensure he would not be arrested again, designating most of the street level work to members of his crew such as Anthony “Tony Red” Lombardo (the nephew of his former mentor Charlie Lombardo). Despite his recent back seat approach however Gianco is still believed to have a direct hand in most of the Ancelotti's drug dealing operations, although they are no longer as large scale as they used to be due to people like Joe Corolla in the Pavano family currently handling most of the city's drug market.

Supporting Characters


Nino Falcone
Nino Falcone is an Italian American gulf war veteran and avid motorcycle enthusiast with access to a large cache of weapons. Nino will be introduced to Carlo quite early on and from then on will become his own personal arms dealer. Nino will stock all of the game's new and exclusive weapons in addition to those which carry over from GTA IV in his basement and will sell them to Carlo at discount rates.

Angelo is a mechanic who owns a garage in Bohan. Carlo will meet him soon after he begins working for the mafia and after that he can bring him stolen vehicles which he will exchange for payment or to get his vehicle repaired.


Aleksandër Vulaj
Aleksandër is the cousin of Kalem Vulaj and is the leader of Liberty City's Albanian Mob otherwise known as “The Vulaj Organisation”. Vulaj is an ethnic Albanian who moved to the United States over ten years ago. Over the past decade Vulaj's organisation has become quite a powerful underworld force with involvement in extortion, drug dealing, people trafficing, loan sharking, street racing and illegal gambling and are said to be the biggest eastern european gang in the Liberty City metropolitan area next to Kenny Petrovic's Russian Mafia organization, with long established ties to many of Liberty City's La Cosa Nostra factions. Aside from the Russians, Vulaj's organisation, although small is said to be the only organised gang that can hold a candle to Liberty City's five families and has been known to test their power and antagonise them on many occasions, once reportedly requesting two wiseguys to come to Bohan for a sit down and ordering them to be strip searched before tossing them out on the street and making them walk back to their bosses stark naked. Vulaj will be first introduced to Carlo as part of a drug trafficking operation and from then on will play quite a pivotal role in the storyline. Although it is suggested that he is the boss of the Albanian mob a later news article states that he may have in fact been just a mid level cog in a bigger machine.


Benito "Benny" D'Angelo

Benny will first be introduced to Carlo as part of a Messina affiliated robbery crew along with fellow crew members Richie DeVito and Ralph Carbone. Carlo will then work with him on two other occasions throughout the the story.


Marco DiBernardo
Marco is an associate of the Gambetti family who will accompany Carlo and some others on a big heist later in the story. He is a long time friend of Nicky Bottino who also has a penchant for class A drugs which eventually leads him into trouble.

Dino Zifarelli
Dino is an associate of the Gambettis and later becomes a made man. He will also be involved in the big heist and in the latter part of the story he and Carlo will become friends.


Rudy D'Avanzo

D'Avanzo is a notorious fixer of the Italian American variety. He is a man of many talents ranging from carrying out contract killings to acting as a liaison between prostitutes and their clients. He has been known to carry out hits while wearing women's clothing although it is not clear whether this is in order to conceal his identity or satisfy his own sick perversions. Carlo will meet him through Ancelotti Capo Frankie Garone.


Philly Narducci

Philip Narducci, also known as "Fat Philly" is 55 year old capo in the Gambetti Crime Family. His main place of operations is the backroom office of an Italian Food store named Alazone's (owned by long time friend Alberto Alazone) but he can also be found on occasion hanging out in a mob controlled social club in nearby South Slopes. Narducci is a long time serving member of the family and it is thought he would have replaced both Sal Mangano and Sammy Bottino as underboss if it wasn't for him serving a prison sentence at the time. Nowadays he is reduced to leading a rag tag crew of young upstarts who are mostly related to other mobsters.


Peter Gravelli

Gravelli is the 36 year old nephew of Gambetti Family boss Jon Gravelli and the son of his youngest brother Eugene who was murdered in 1973, when Peter was only a year old. His mother subsequently committed suicide and he was adopted by his uncle and raised as a son (some say a replacement for his own son Jon Jr. who is a known drug addict). Many people feel that Peter only got made because of who his uncle is but he is quickly establishing himself as a worthy successor to his captain Philly Narducci.


Anthony Lombardo

Anthony "Tony Red" Lombardo is a hulking enforcer in the Ancelotti crime family who garnered his nickname due to his auburn tinted hair (aside from being a way to distinguish him from captain Anthony "Tony Black" Spoleto). Lombardo has been linked to the mob from birth, having an uncle who was a powerful captain in the Messina Family and a father, Anthony Snr., who joined the Alderney based Pegorino Family after failing to become a made man in the Messina family.


Andriy Maximov
Maximov is a big shot Russian drug trafficer from Vice City with ties to Ray Bulgarin and Dimitri Rascalov's Russian Mafia organisation. Upon his arrival in Liberty City Andriy will get into a spot of bother (due to him arriving aboard a boat filled with cocaine) and Carlo will be required to go and 'bail him out'. After this he will begin to supply The Ancelottis with cocaine. Upon beginning to deal with Maximov Carlo will quickly find out that he is an incompetent asshole who likes to think that he is more important and successful than he actually is but he is an entertaining character none the less.


Agent Russo & DeSoto

As Carlo becomes more and more involved in Mob business he will come to the attention of the FIB who will begin to harrass him and Russo and DeSoto are the ones who will attempt to bring him to justice. Given the nature of these types of prosecutions however they will not simply seek an arrest. He will need to lift the lid on everybody and forsake the loyalty that he holds dear in order to save himself.





This snazzy off road recreational vehicle is perfect for cruising around Liberty City's sandy beaches (even if they are few and far between) or for some extra fun take it onto the streets and mow down unsuspecting pedestrians before they even realise what's going on, then by the time they wake up the poor beggers will be just too awe struck to press charges (the perfect crime).




This classic version of the Grotti Cheetah is a supercharged european beauty queen that's a must have accessory for any would be Mafia high roller or impotent banker in mid life crisis. It's not quite as fast as a comet but it's twice as sexy and let's face it, that's all that really matters.
Cognoscenti Cabrio


The Enus Cognoscenti Cabrio is 6 cylinders and 500+ horsepower of pure British elegance finely stuffed into a flashy 2 door coupe. Altogether quicker and more nimble than it's big sister the Cognoscenti, this car is essentially the best of both worlds for those who want luxury and speed – the perfect combination.




The Pegassi Vacca is an Italian supercar that simply blows all others out of the water.With a top speed of well over 300 km/h that more than makes up for it's bulky frame this is the ultimate choice for blowing around the city at (extremely) high speed, leaving everybody else in a cowering mess with as you shoot by.The standard model offers everything you could ever want in a sports car but for those hard to pleasers there's also the supercharged variant the Vacca S that will have you jizzing your pants til the cows come home.




The Pfister Crossopriza is yet another Italian supercar featured in this episode. Much like the Cheetah this car ranks comparatively low on top speed when compared to others in the class but it handles like an absolute dream with acceleration comparable to a super powered greyhound out of the trap. The Crossopriza is quite common within Mafia circles providing a sleeker alternative to the bog standard luxury sedan and comes in both hard top and drop top versions.
The Caddy, F620, Super Diamond and Super Drop Diamond from The Ballad of Gay Tony are also featured

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The weapons in this game will be available from two sources. Firstly the guns from the original GTA IV will be available from the same underground gun shops that were available to Niko. There will also be an ex-military arms dealer named Nino that operates out of Bohan who Carlo will get introduced to over the course of the story. This arms dealer will sell him the new and exclusive weapons which can be seen below (excluding the golf club).

Brass Knuckles
When applied to your fist this handy object will make your punches twice as powerful allowing you to be able to knock enemies to the floor with a single punch. Carlo will acquire this weapon quite early on.
Golf Club

The golf club has long been an integral part of a gentlemanly sport but in this game it will be used in the most ungentlemanly of ways – to beat your enemies to a bloody pulp. Golf Clubs can be acquired by playing a game of golf or can be picked up at specific locations around the city.
Silenced Pistol

A supressed version of the Regular Pistol, and an essential tool in any mobster's arsenal. With this weapon hits can be carried out discreetly when you don't want to alert other's to your presence. Carlo will acquire this weapon relatively early on and from then on it will be purchasable from the gun dealer.
Automatic Pistol

This is yet another variant of the bog standard pistol. This weapon allows for automatic fire and holds 20 bullets which is 5 more than the regular pistol. This weapon is perfect for those who want to take out a target quickly but can't afford the price tag of the SMG.
Snub Nose Revolver

This classic gangster weapon not only looks the part but is also chambered with .357 magnum rounds to take down enemies quickly and effectively. This weapon is especially good for headshots and close quaters executions and with a relatively low price tag it is by far the best value for your money.
Machine Pistol
The machine pistol is a step up from the automatic pistol and is the cheapest weapon in the SMG class. This weapon is slightly less accurate than the other SMGs but bullets are cheap so you can afford to waste them.

A sawn off shotgun traditionally used in sicilian mob assasinations. This gun holds two shells at a time that can be fired off one after another and can also be fired from vehicles with ease. The Lupara is most effective in close quaters due to is poor range but is powerful enough to take down enemies in two shots to the body or one to the head. This weapon will be acquired during the story mode and from then on can be purchased from the gun dealer.
Advanced SMG
This is the most powerful SMG in the game and has a superb rate of fire. The stock on the gun also allows for some very accurate shooting. Overall when rate of fire, stopping power and reload time are taken into account this is one of the best weapons in the game. The Advanced SMG will become available only in the latter half of the game and will be primarily stocked by the gun dealer although it can also be found within the story mode and in a couple of spawn points around the city.
Battle Rifle
The Battle Rifle is a powerful upgrade to the Carbine and the Assault Rifle. The range on this weapon will be a vast improvement on those weapons also, bridging the gap between the Assault Rifle and the Sniper Rifle and when Carlo aims at an enemy the screen will zoom in to give him a clearer shot at his target. This weapon has quite a low bullet capacity holding only 20 bullets and an average rate of fire comparable to an SMG but it also has the ability to take down enemies in just a few shots from quite far away. The special “Jungle Style” magazine also cuts reload times in half. All things considered this weapon is by far the best option for a heated firefight. This weapon will not become available to the player until quite late in the game but it is certainly worth waiting for.
Silenced Sniper

This weapon is the perfect choice for taking people out from a distance. This weapon holds 7 rounds and has a quick reload time making it the best rifle in the game. The added silencer makes this weapon even more attractive since it can be used anywhere without attracting attention. Another great addition of this rifle is it's attached bipod that greatly reduces the amount of movement while taking a shot.. enemies will literally not know what him them.
Carlo will also be given access to a Special Weapon as a reward upon completion of the game.



Cream – I Feel Free
Jefferson Airplane – White Rabbit
The Rolling Stones – Moonlight Mile

Jimi Hendrix – All Along The Watchtower
The Beatles – Come Together
The Kinks – I'm Not Like Everybody Else
The Animals – House of The Rising Sun
The Doors – Break On Through (To The Other Side)
T Rex – Get It On
Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run




Herbie Hancock - Watermelon Man

Weather Report – Birdland
Miles Davis – Right Off
Herbie Hancock – Chameleon
Wes Montgomery – Bumpin On Sunset
Grover Washington Jnr. - Mister Magic
Jimmy Smith – Back at The Chicken Shack
Grant Green – Aint It Funky Now
Charles Mingus & Joni Mitchell – Goodbye Pork Pie Hat
Pharoah Sanders - The Creator has a Master Plan


Dave Brubeck – Take Five
Count Basie - Flight of the Foo Birds
Charles Mingus – Moanin'
Benny Goodman – Sing Sing Sing
Glenn Miller – In The Mood
Dizzie Gillespie – One Note Samba
Sonny Rollins & Babs Gonzales - Professor Bop
Harry James - Crazy Rhythm
Glenn Miller - Tuxedo Junction
Sonny Rollins – What's My Name

Freddie Hubbard – Straight Life
Benny Goodman - Jumpin' at The Woodside
Lee Morgan – The Sidewinder
Benny Goodman & Ella Fitzgerald – Goodnight My Love





The Prodigy - Invaders Must Die
Radiohead – Bodysnatchers
Muse – Hysteria
The Kills – f*ck The People
Whitey – Cigarette
The White Stripes – Stop Breaking Down
The Black Keys - Your Touch
Arctic Monkeys - Pretty Visitors
Semi Precious Weapons - Semi Precious Weapons
The Black Keys - Girl Is On My Mind
Them Crooked Vultures - Reptiles
Bloc Party - Banquet
Foxylane - Shut Up Bitch!
Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs - Heads Will Roll




Social Clubs
Quiet little hidey holes where the city's most ruthless criminals of the Italian American variety can relax and get away from all of the hustle and bustle and the watchful eye of the LCPD, the Mafia social club has long been the prefered hangout of Liberty City's mafiosos. After proving himself worthy enough Carlo is free to enter various such establishments around the city where he can partake in popular masculine past times such as pool. darts, drinking, poker, Hi/Lo, arm wrestling and 5 finger fillet. Social clubs are quite relaxed atmosphere's with only two main rules: don't draw your weapon inside or you will be shot down and don't bring the law to the door or it will be closed to you.

Underground Gambling
Underground gambling is another cherished past time of the mob so it seems only right that Carlo be able to access these illegal gaming houses. Inside an (often overground) underground gambling den Carlo will be able to participate in many games ranging from Poker and Blackjack in smaller back room joints around Bohan, Broker and Dukes to Roulette, Craps and High stakes Hold Em' in the larger underground casinos of Algonquin and Alderney. Betting will be allowed in these gambling dens that brings Carlo's bank account into negative figures. If he waits to long to repay his deaths however he will incur the wrath of mafia loan sharks who will actively seek him out and kill him once he enters certain neighbourhods. His debt will then double and the loan sharks will not cease until it has been fully paid off.

Betting Shops
Betting shops are another way in which Carlo can empty or increase his bank account. Betting shops will contain computerised versions of many of the games available in underground gambling dens as well as computerised horse racing. Unlike gambling dens however Carlo will only be able to spend money which he actually has. These business can be extorted and robbed although doing so will heed some unsavoury results since many of the betting shops around the city are under the control of the mafia who will not hesitate to show up in an instant and gun Carlo down.

Extortion has long been the bread and butter of the Mafia both in America and the old country. Carlo will quickly be introduced to the art of for-profit intimidation over the course of his work for the honored society. Extortion will be quite an easy way for Carlo to make money seeing as all it involves is smacking around store owners and damaging some produce in order to get them to pay protection money. The store owners will also however be buying something in return though since once a business has been extorted it will need to be protected from other gangs around the city.. allow the business to get smashed up and the store owner won't be able to pay.

This also means that the more stores you receive money from the more you you will have to protect. Big businesses yield the most cash but are also the ones most likely to come under fire from other gangs and employ heavy set doormen who will put you in the hospital quite quickly so you will need to choose which businesses you extort wisely to avoid constant annoyance and bring in the most long term cash. Another thing to bear in mind is that the bigger the store the more likely that the actual owner will not be present meaning that the cashier will either flee immediately once targeted or it will mean that you will have to return and 'speak' to the manager.

Car Service
Quite early in the story Carlo will get the opportunity to operate a car service, using any car he is driving (except Police and Emergency vehicles) to pick people up and drop them off at specific destinations in order to earn some extra cash. In order to trigger this side mission he will call Frank Lupisella and ask for a car service job. These jobs are completely random and they will run for as long as the player is working for the Lupisellas.

There are 4 different types of robberies which Carlo can partake in. These are as follows:


1. Muggings
Muggings are the most basic kind of robberies that Carlo can do. Simply walk up to a pedestrian, point a weapon at them and press Triangle/Y to demand cash from them. This avoids the need to kill pedestrians and saves you from a lot of hassle from the law, unless of course they witness you mugging somebody.

2. Store Robberies
Store Robberies are quite a lucrative practice and will in a lot of cases earn Carlo quite a bit of money. These robberies are initiated much the same way as muggings or the extortion of a store owner except instead of smacking the cashier around you will point a gun at them and demand they empty the register. Occasionally you will come across a have a go hero who will refuse to comply, however a pistol shot to the leg or the more conspicuous option of a bigger gun will usually make them play along. Doormen will also play a part in trying to prevent robberies but shouldn't cause too much trouble if taken out early. The important thing to be aware of is to keep an eye on the cashier because if you take your aim away from them for a second they will press the alarm and get the f*ck outta there meaning that the police will show up in a matter of minutes.

3. Burglaries
Burglaries (otherwise known as house robberies) will be the second most rewarding form of robbery available to the protagonist (after a certain point in the story). To initiate a burglary you must first wait until nightfall then you must acquire a van. After you have gotten a van, robable houses will show up as blue house symbols on your radar. When you reach one of these houses you must then look for an entry point such as a poorly locked door or a breakable window. After you have entered the house you must move quietly around (no running) and look for items to steal (green dots) and load them one by one into your van. When the house has been cleared out you will then drive the van full of stolen stuff to the nearest lockup (owned by an unseen entity). When you have parked the van in the lockup the costs of the stolen goods will be totalled and you will recieve your reward. Burglaries are quite risky and rarely pay more than a couple thousand dollars but are also quite good fun.

4. Truck Highjacking
Truck highjackings are by far the most lucrative form of robberies you can do. They are started quite simply by looking for a loaded truck (shown as a red dot on your map) driving around then wait for an oppertunity to jack it. The truck can then be driven to one of the same lockups used for burglaries in order to cash in on it's contents. Truck highjackings are guaranteed to gain you a two star wanted level but are always more than worth a little police attention. There are different types of trucks which can be hijacked which contain everyday things such as Cigarettes, Beer, Sprunk, Water and Food produce but there are also a few hidden gems which contain drugs and stolen goods. These trucks will contain armed gang members who will call their buddies to chase you in cars making them that little bit more of a risky steal but will give you massive payouts. In addition to regular trucks, Securicars can also be stolen by the player these will contain two armed and armoured guards and will gain Carlo another wanted star but will also be very rewarding.

Underground Fight Club
Much like Luis Lopez, Carlo will be able to observe and participate in the underground fight club in Northwood after becoming aware of it's existence. Betting on these fights can earn the player a lot of money if the right decisions are made, participating in them however can be just as rewarding (if not more so) but could result in a trip to the hospital and a loss of funds.

Contract Killings
After a certain point in the story Carlo will be able to undertake a number of contract killings which will earn him money. Once Carlo has completed all of these contract killings (provided he has completed Chapter 10) a silenced sniper will be available permanently from the gun closet in every safehouse. Complete ten out of twenty and he will obtain a special outfit known as 'the assasin's attire'. The contracts are as follows:



  • Favors

Favors are similar to Red Dead Redemption and GTA V's random events. As Carlo wanders about the in game environment he will come accross various civilians in need of help, whether it be asking you to chase down a mugger and retrieve a stolen purse or give them a lift to a specific destination because their car broke down. These favors will have a notable effect on your honor and will either lower or raise it depending on your actions. From time to time you will also come across unique characters in need of Special Favors which are unlocked only at certain points in the storyline. These will largely revolve around helping somebody out in some way but will have a much greater effect on your honor and reputation if completed successfully and will also have some influence on the in-game environment. These characters will mostly be people that you've met at some point over the course of the story and will usually show you their gratitude by giving you specific in-game perks and rewards once you have completed all of their tasks. These Special Favors in order of availability are as follows:


  • Lady in Leftwood (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 2)
  • William Hambrough (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 4)
  • Nino Falcone (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 7)
  • Gino Gioeli (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 9)
  • Butchy the Boxer (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 11)
  • Stevie the Car Dealer (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 14) *conditional
  • Seamus O'Reilly (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 16)
  • Sammy Bottino (Unlocked by Completion of Chapter 17)
  • Sharon Morton (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 18)
  • One Last Favor/Nino Pt. 2 (Unlocked by completion of Chapter 19) *conditional
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Click links for full chapters


Chapter 1 - The Introduction



Chapter 2 - Putting in Work



Chapter 3 - Family Values



Chapter 4 - Making The Cut



Chapter 5 - Friends in Low Places



Chapter 6 - Sticking Your Neck Out



Chapter 7 - At Your Service



Chapter 8 - All Fun and Games..



Chapter 9 - Paying The Piper



Chapter 10 - The Brothers Volpe



Chapter 11 - Waste Management



Chapter 12 – Il Furto Grande



Chapter 13 - Damage Control



Chapter 14 - An Unbreakable Union



Chapter 15 - The Greater Good



Chapter 16 - Misgivings



Chapter 17 - A Season of Change



Chapter 18 - Clearing House



Chapter 19 - Colpo Di Grazia



Chapter 20 - Epilogue



Here is a timeline of events as they fit in with the stories of The GTA IV Trilogy and my other concept Grand Theft Auto: The Code of The Streets



As the story progresses certain story related events will appear in the form of articles on the in-game website of the Liberty City Post written by staff journalist and self proclaimed mob expert Jimmy Cast. These stories are (in order of appearence):


Warning titles contain story spoilers

  • Liberty City's La Cosa Nostra Alive and Well (appears after Chapter 2)
  • Bootlegged fuel reportedly on sale around Liberty City (appears after Chapter 3)
  • Albanian and Greek gangsters at war on our streets (appears after Chapter 4)
  • Bohan Bar Shootout apparently linked to deceased Pavano Capo Joseph Corrola (appears after Chapter 5)
  • Bloodshed in Balkan Gang War (appears after Chapter 6)
  • Ageing Ancelotti captain Salvatore "Fat Sal" Boschetti secures lucrative waste management contract (appears after Chapter 7 - Part 1)
  • West Coast Wiseguys linked to Enzo Bonelli spotted in LC (appears after Chapter 7 - Part 2)
  • Ancelottis dropping like flies - other families may be to blame (appears after Chapter 8)
  • Messina mobster Bruno Morretti chalks closure of Dukes strip club down to a misunderstanding. City officials are not so sure (appears after Chapter 9)
  • Pasta Connection Part 2?? - Messina affiliated mobsters arrested in drug traffic sting (appears after Chapter 10 - Part 2)
  • Italian Food Store receives second health and safety caution in a month (appears after Chapter 11 - Part 1)
  • Balkan War Over. Possible LCN war on the Horizon?? (appears after Chapter 11 - Part 2)
  • Union boss Thomas Angellino found dead in his Bohan office (appears after Chapter 11 - Part 3)
  • Broker restaurant owner Alfredo "Ali Mac" Macaluso denies his business is a mob hangout (appears after Chapter 12 - Part 2)
  • Daring Airport robbery harks back to the 70s (appears after Chapter 12 - Part 3)
  • Bloody conflict dissolves 20 year old partnership between the Gambettis and the Messinas (appears after Chapter 13 - Part 1)
  • Messina affiliated mobster Harry Hall arrested on Racketeering charges (appears after Chapter 13 - Part 2)
  • Two Gambetti mobsters killed in suspected car bomb attack (appears after Chapter 13 - Part 3)
  • Recently released Pavano capo Mario "Mad Dog" Ciccone slain in Algonquin (appears after Chapter 14)
  • Port Haven being rebuilt with Mob Money? Ancelotti's "Richmond Al" Ricci refusing to talk (Appears after Chapter 15 - Part 1)
  • Pavano capo "Slick Vic" Conti Jr. engaged in bloody mob war over territory in Alderney (Appears after Chapter 15 - Part 3)
  • Ancelotti's fugitive underboss "Chubby Charlie" Matteo found dead in old soda factory in Alderney (Appears after Chapter 16 - Part 1)
  • Ancelotti Capo "Big Paulie" Gianco set to take over as Underboss? (Appears after Chapter 16 - Part 2)
  • Liberty City streets awash with heroin, American and East Asian mafias may be to blame (Appears after Chapter 17 - Part 1)
  • The class of 2008 - Several prominent mobsters set for release in the coming weeks (Appears after Chapter 17 - Part 2)
  • Chaos at Gravelli funeral as convict son escapes (Appears after Chapter 17 - Part 3)
  • Alderney mobster Phil Bell found dead in Port Tudor/Suffers a heart attack on a flight to Aruba (Appears after Chapter 18 - Part 2. The actual headline will depend on your choice in the previous mission)
  • Massacre at Ancelotti Mansion - Don Giovanni amongst the dead. (Appears after Chapter 19. The article will be altered to also include details of the death of Unberboss Paulie Gianco depending on your choice).

The website will also feature sensationalist versions of news stories from GTA IV and Episodes from Liberty City.

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 11:21 PM

This sounds exciting. I'm not the biggest fan of mafia related stories but I liked your Code of The Streets thread and so I'd love to see what you can come up with for this thread.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 02:46 AM

I almost feel like I should remodel my threads at some point to be setup like this. But then again, you didn't really have to deal with location........

Nevertheless, typical brilliance from MOB, although I'm not a huge fan of mob based stories.

Good job. icon14.gif

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:56 AM


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Posted 19 October 2010 - 10:33 AM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 30 September 2017 - 06:23 PM.

The following is a timeline of events as they fit in with the stories of The GTA IV Trilogy and my other concept Grand Theft Auto: The Code of The Streets.


[R] The Cousins Bellic
[R] It's Your Call
[R] Three's a Crowd

Chapter 1 (Introduction)
[R] Bleed Out
[M] First Date

Chapter 2 – Part 1
[R] Easy Fare

Chapter 2 – Part 2
[R] Jamaican Heat

Chapter 2 – Part 3
[LJ] Concrete Jungle
[V] Bull In a China Shop

Chapter 3 – Part 1
[V] Hung Out to Dry

Chapter 3 – Part 2
[V] Clean Getaway

Chapter 3 – Part 3
[V] Ivan the Not So Terrible
[R] Uncle Vlad

Chapter 4 – Part 1
[R] Crime and Punishment
[MF] Do You Have Protection?

Chapter 4 - Part 2
[LJ] Shadow
[MF] Final Destination

Chapter 4 – Part 3
[MF] No Love Lost

Chapter 5 – Part 1
[R] Logging On

Chapter 5 – Part 2
[MF] Rigged to Blow
[DR]The Master and the Molotov

Chapter 5 - Part 3

[X] Severence Package
[DR] Russian Revolution
[R] Roman's Sorrow
[ME] Escuela of the Streets

Chapter 6 – Part 1
[ME] Street Sweeper

[E] Luck of the Irish

Chapter 6 – Part 2
[E] Blow Your Cover

[BK] Search and Delete

Chapter 6 – Part 3
[BK] Easy As Can Be
[BK] Out of the Closet
[BK] No. 1
[ME] The Puerto Rican Connection
[E] The Snow Storm

Chapter 7 – Part 1
[E] Have a Heart
[FMC] Call and Collect

Chapter 7 – Part 2
[PMC] Harboring a Grudge
[PMC] Waste Not Want Knots

Chapter 7 - Part 3
[PMC] Three Leaf Clover

[FMC] Final Interview

[DMC] Smackdown

Chapter 8 – Part 1

[FMC] Holland Nights

[FMC] Lure

Chapter 8 - Part 2

[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words

Chapter 8 - Part 3

[GMC] I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots and Your Motorcycle

Chapter 9 – Part 1

[YA] Sexy Time

Chapter 9 – Part 2

[RB] A Long Way to Fall

Chapter 9 – Part 3

[YA] High Dive

Chapter 10 – Part 1

[DMC] Babysitting

Chapter 10 – Part 2

[YA] Caught With Your Pants Down

Chapter 10 – Part 3

[DMC] Tunnel of Death

Chapter 11 – Part 1

[FMC] Blood Brothers

Chapter 11 – Part 2
[GT] Practice Swing

[PMC] Undertaker
[GT] Bang Bang

Chapter 11 – Part 3
[X] Deconstruction for Beginners

[DM] A Night to Remember
[D] Ruff Rider

Chapter 12 – Part 1
[D] Undress to Kill

Chapter 12 – Part 2
[X] Photo Shoot
[R] Hostile Negotiation

Chapter 12 – Part 3
[X/D] The Holland Play

[NB] Deception
[ULP] Wrong Is Right
[ULP] Portrait of a Killer
[RB] Taking In the Trash

[NB] Messin' With The Messinas
[RB] Meltdown
[GMC] I'll Take Her

[NB] Silent Witness
[RB] Museum Piece
[RB] No Way on the Subway

[NB] Lost Cause

Chapter 13 – Part 1
[RB] Late Checkout

[RZ] Mackin Out
[RB] Weekend at Florian's

Chapter 13 – Part 2
[PMC] Ransom

Chapter 13 – Part 3

[RZ] Dirty Laundery
[GMC] She's A Keeper

[RZ] Fast Women and Fast Cars
[ULP] Dust Off

[RZ] Clipping The Grass
[ULP] Paper Trail

Chapter 14 – Part 1

[RZ] State of Emergency
[BC] Hating the Haters

[RZ] Scrappage Scheme

Chapter 14 – Part 2
[BC] Union Drive

[RZ] Out of The Loop

Chapter 14 – Part 3
[BC] Buoy's Ahoy

[RZ] Made in Algonquin

Chapter 15 - Part 1
[PB] Truck Hustle

[JP] Pegorino's Pride

Chapter 15 - Part 2
[JP] Payback

Chapter 15 - Part 3
[PB] Catch the Wave
[PB] Trespass

Chapter 16 – Part 1

[PB] To Live and Die In Alderney
[GMC] Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend
[G] Entourage

Chapter 16 – Part 2
[G] Dining Out
[G] Liquidize the Assets

Chapter 16 – Part 3

[JP] Flatline
[JP] Pest Control
[ULP] That Special Someone

Chapter 17 – Part 1
[JP] One Last Thing
[DR] If the Price Is Right / A Dish Served Cold
[R] Mr. & Mrs. Bellic
[LJ] A Revenger's Tragedy
/ Out of Commission

Chapter 17 – Part 2

[GT] Departure Time

Chapter 17 – Part 3


Chapter 18 and Chapter 19 (Finale) take place after GTA IV and Episodes From Liberty City.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 10:42 AM

FINALLY! Ive been waiting for this have cookie.gif cookie.gif cookie.gif

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 01:13 PM

whats with the stretch

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:01 PM

M.O.B your over concepts are amazing i know this will be too. and theres nothing wrong with a mafia storyline icon14.gif

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:51 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 30 December 2016 - 02:32 PM.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Hopefully I can change your opinion on mob based stories too Seth colgate.gif


Also, thanks Narcis!! cookie.gif
Now I just have to change the code a bit to make it jump to the various sections rather than opening in a new window.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 08:48 AM

this is good icon14.gif but how about the year?2008?2009?2010?

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (Prasdana @ Oct 20 2010, 09:48)
this is good icon14.gif but how about the year?2008?2009?2010?


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Posted 20 October 2010 - 12:46 PM

You have made an excelent start on this, very good job.

Can't wait for the story to come next, im quite a big fan of organized crime stories true or nor true, and not just Italian OC either, i hear their will be other forms of OC in this aswell.

Can't wait to see more, since MOB has created a street gang based DLC a mafia style one would be a perfect balance. Good job.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 01:54 PM

I'm gonna try and get some character bios up over the next couple of days

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:00 PM

nice man!!

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:05 PM

Looks excellent.
Waiting for weapons...

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:06 PM

Info has been posted on some key members of The Gambetti Family. Info on members of the other families will be up soon.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:11 PM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Oct 21 2010, 22:06)
Info has been posted on some key members of The Gambetti Family. Info on members of the other families will be up soon.

Just read 'em. Looks really good, man. icon14.gif What kind of weapons are you gonna feature in this?

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:13 PM

Where are those pictures from?
I love the Gravelli one...

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 11:00 PM

QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Oct 21 2010, 23:13)
Where are those pictures from?
I love the Gravelli one...

They are pictures of actors man... just seemed easier than finding or creating in game models for them.

@akavari112: The weapons will be weapons that you would see being used by the mafia (with one or two exceptions of course)

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 11:03 PM

I know, but which actors specifically?

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 11:12 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 21 October 2010 - 11:15 PM.

QUOTE (The Lolwut Pear @ Oct 22 2010, 00:03)
I know, but which actors specifically?


Carlo Devino is Scott Cohen
Jon Gravelli is Marc Lawrence
Sammy Bottino is Titus Welliver
Roy Zito is John Fiore
Salvatore Mangano is Armand Assante
Nicky Bottino is Christian Maelen

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 08:02 AM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Oct 21 2010, 22:06)
Info has been posted on some key members of The Gambetti Family. Info on members of the other families will be up soon.

I read them aswell, Very good i must say, i like how the characters names fit in with their look and personality, One more question...

In this game are you going to pin up mission titles, because i was wondering are we going to attend Jon Gravelli's death at all? and then their is a power vacuum for Boss between the two underbosses, but maybe no boss ever gets ellected as of today the Gambino's prefer to have a sort of Capo as a boss instead of an actual one to avoid RICO charges alot easier...

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:58 PM

QUOTE (Pac. @ Oct 22 2010, 09:02)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Oct 21 2010, 22:06)
Info has been posted on some key members of The Gambetti Family. Info on members of the other families will be up soon.

I read them aswell, Very good i must say, i like how the characters names fit in with their look and personality, One more question...

In this game are you going to pin up mission titles, because i was wondering are we going to attend Jon Gravelli's death at all? and then their is a power vacuum for Boss between the two underbosses, but maybe no boss ever gets ellected as of today the Gambino's prefer to have a sort of Capo as a boss instead of an actual one to avoid RICO charges alot easier...

Thanks man. I was thinking of just having Roy Zito take over as boss after Jon Gravelli's death but have Bottino briefly come out of hiding for the funeral and contest it. I think people like to see definitive events happen within stories rather than things to be left open i.e in this scenario who would take over as boss.

I think in a logical sense Sammy Bottino would take over as the boss due to his age and experience (although still quite young to be a mafia don) if he was not on the run. It wouldn't make sense to appoint a boss knowing that their days outside prison are numbered though so Zito would be by far the better candidate.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 01:08 PM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Oct 22 2010, 12:58)
QUOTE (Pac. @ Oct 22 2010, 09:02)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Oct 21 2010, 22:06)
Info has been posted on some key members of The Gambetti Family. Info on members of the other families will be up soon.

I read them aswell, Very good i must say, i like how the characters names fit in with their look and personality, One more question...

In this game are you going to pin up mission titles, because i was wondering are we going to attend Jon Gravelli's death at all? and then their is a power vacuum for Boss between the two underbosses, but maybe no boss ever gets ellected as of today the Gambino's prefer to have a sort of Capo as a boss instead of an actual one to avoid RICO charges alot easier...

Thanks man. I was thinking of just having Roy Zito take over as boss after Jon Gravelli's death but have Bottino briefly come out of hiding for the funeral and contest it. I think people like to see definitive events happen within stories rather than things to be left open i.e in this scenario who would take over as boss.

I think in a logical sense Sammy Bottino would take over as the boss due to his age and experience (although still quite young to be a mafia don) if he was not on the run. It wouldn't make sense to appoint a boss knowing that their days outside prison are numbered though so Zito would be by far the better candidate.

Nice, would Bottino be killed at all? or just give up and go back into hiding

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Pac. @ Oct 22 2010, 14:08)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Oct 22 2010, 12:58)
QUOTE (Pac. @ Oct 22 2010, 09:02)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Oct 21 2010, 22:06)
Info has been posted on some key members of The Gambetti Family. Info on members of the other families will be up soon.

I read them aswell, Very good i must say, i like how the characters names fit in with their look and personality, One more question...

In this game are you going to pin up mission titles, because i was wondering are we going to attend Jon Gravelli's death at all? and then their is a power vacuum for Boss between the two underbosses, but maybe no boss ever gets ellected as of today the Gambino's prefer to have a sort of Capo as a boss instead of an actual one to avoid RICO charges alot easier...

Thanks man. I was thinking of just having Roy Zito take over as boss after Jon Gravelli's death but have Bottino briefly come out of hiding for the funeral and contest it. I think people like to see definitive events happen within stories rather than things to be left open i.e in this scenario who would take over as boss.

I think in a logical sense Sammy Bottino would take over as the boss due to his age and experience (although still quite young to be a mafia don) if he was not on the run. It wouldn't make sense to appoint a boss knowing that their days outside prison are numbered though so Zito would be by far the better candidate.

Nice, would Bottino be killed at all? or just give up and go back into hiding

Him being killed is definitely an option. But then again if Carlo were to do it he would surely be marked for death confused.gif

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