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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:14 PM Edited by mkey82, 17 July 2012 - 11:39 AM.

Since lately there have been too much tears and blood spilt over this, lets ultra oversimplify.

Applies to both GTAIV and EFLC with the exact folder paths valid for GTAIV

Q) I really don't appreciate the text arts, do you have a video for me?
A) Yes, Dr. John13 prescribes this for your condition.

Q) What is xliveless?
A) xliveless is a Games For Windows Live (GFWL) wrapper that
a) Removes the need for GFWL (good for people who don't play in MP, disables achievements, bypasses possible GFWL issues).
b) Moves the savegame folder to "My Documents" and allows loading of downloaded savegames.
c) Acts as a loader for various asi and dll plugins. Hence, if you already have some loader installed remove it before installing xliveless.
d) Up to and including patch 5 for GTAIV, it disabled RGSC as well so you didn't need that crap running in the background all the time, also presenting a possible cause for various issues.
e) Basically, xliveless can improve performance in some cases.

Q) Where can I get xliveless?
A) HERE. Note that the latest version supports all previous game versions and with each new update you will have to wait for listener (a big thanks and loads of cookies to him) to update the wrapper.

Q) How do I install xliveless?
A) Simple. Open the RAR archive you downloaded (if in doubt, for archiving purposes you can use 7-zip) and extract the xlive.dll file only into the game directory, that is the directory where the game and the launcher executables are located. For GTAIV that dir would look something like

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for retail
C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto IV\
or for Steam
C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\grand theft auto iv\

For EFLC it should be similar. these paths are valid for 32 bit OSes, for 64 it should be similar.

Q) Where can I get GTAIV savegames?
A) You can get them HERE. Big thanks and another pile of cookies for Fabio206 for creating these.

From recent development, it has come up that it may be very well possible these don't work on patch 7 and consequently patch 6. When I say "don't work" I mean "they fail loading from the savegame menu." xliveless will still work in junction with your own savegames on any patch version, but there seems to be a problem with patch 7 and these downloaded savegames. Thanks to miromiro for pointing this out, however there is probably more room for testing and determining what's going on in the background.

Q) Where do I get EFLC savegames?
A) There are some here, thanks to GTA 1911 for the link.

From my personal experience, I can confirm these do work on patch 1.1.2.0 (a patch 7 equivalent) as I have used them succesfully on my (Steam) version of TBOGT.

Q) How do I install the savegames?
A) If you need to get hold of your own savegames first, you will find them here

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Windows XP SP3 - C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Application Data\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames
Windows Vista - C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames
Windows 7 - C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

Change the system driver letters accordingly. These paths are valid for both 32 and 64 bit OS versions. For EFLC the paths should be similar.

Now, to place the savegames in the proper directory, you can go by one of the following two procedures
a) Create the following folder structure in the "My Documents" folder manually

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Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

for both 32 and 64 bit OS versions. For EFLC it should be similar.

b) Simply start GTAIV, create a new game from the menu and save the game taking the first opportunity. Now you can look for the folder in "My Documents" and drop any savegames you have there.

You can go play now.

Notes:
a) if you used any other xlive wrappers (like rick's wrapper) remove all xlive.dll files you had installed to make sure thing go smoothly.
b) any savegames created with xliveless will not work without it anymore so you will not be able to import them back into GFWL. I'm not saying this is impossible (maybe there is a tool out there), but the solution is not self-evident.
c) sometimes the "My Documents" folder can be tough to find if you moved it or if you changed your username so be careful.
d) If anyone contributes EFLC specific paths, I'll add them no questions asked biggrin.gif
e) xliveless supports all versions up to 1.0.7.0 English and 1.0.6.1 Russian. Thanks to aligar for testing this.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:44 AM

QUOTE (mkey82 @ Jun 30 2010, 08:14)
Q) Where do I get EFLC savegames?
A) I don't know. If anyone knows of a list, do share with us.

Well, there's these. http://www.gtagarage...ow.php?id=11157

I've seen mixed reactions, some say they work some say they don't. (Although I'm pretty sure the people who say they don't work just didn't install xliveless properly)

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 08:51 PM Edited by JJCribbins, 31 July 2010 - 09:05 PM.

Where does XLiveLess move the save games to for Windows 7 64-bit? An exact location would be nice to know.

Thank you!

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (mkey82 @ Jun 30 2010, 14:14)
a) Create the following folder structure in the "My Documents" folder manually

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Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

For EFLC it should be similar.

b) Simply start GTAIV, create a new game from the menu and save the game taking the first opportunity. Now you can look for the folder in "My Documents" and drop any savegames you have there.

More exact then this? That's impossible.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:19 PM

@ mkey82: Ah OK, thanks! icon14.gif I thought perhaps W7 64-bit was somehow different.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 09:22 PM

if im gonna download a save game is it just going to accomplish one mission or is it going to change everything?

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 05:14 AM

Everything will change.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 12:08 AM

Hello.
I have Windows 7 x32, original GTA IV (license), last patches and updates, XLiveLess and created folder "savegames" in My Documents/Rockstar Games/GTA IV.
After installing XLiveLess game again creating saves in .../appdata/local/ folders. Of course i cant use my old saves, because game says that they are corrupted (again - Xliveless installed!).
I tried to run GTA as administrator (options has been checked at "LaunchGTAIV.exe" and "GTAIV.exe"), i running game from LaunchGTAIV.exe, as told in FAQ.
What i did wrong? There are all conditions for normal work of xliveless.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 05:15 AM

Are you sure you're using the latest xliveless version?

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 10:55 AM Edited by aligar, 27 August 2010 - 11:46 AM.

I'm using latest version from first post of this topic http://www.gtaforums...pic=388658&st=0
ps. I tried to use old versions of xliveless but it didnt' help
Can be main problem is there? - 27/08/2010 07:19:47.167 Unknown game version, skipping patches (signature = 0x00000094)
How to repair it? Game version is 1.0.7.0, russian.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 11:52 AM

Yeah, it seems the Russian version is not supported.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 12:37 PM

But the patch version 1.0.7.0 is only at russian version of GTA, as far as i know. Other languages have different digits of latest version.
There is text in readme file of xliveless: supports 1.0.7.0 patch.
Sorry for my bad english, hope you understood me.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 07:57 PM

oh, i wasnt right.
1.0.7.0 is english latest patch.
1.0.6.1 is russian latest patch.
so i will try to download english patch and write later

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:36 PM

so, you was right
plugin works correctly with english version of game, i think it can be note in first post.
thank you for help

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:41 AM

do we need to crack it first or we have to paste xlive.dll directly

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:51 AM

No, you only need to buy the game.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 03:51 PM

which patch is best and which version of xliveless is best to stop drunk cam??????

thanx in advance smile.gif




i've applied patch 1.0.3.0 and xliveless ver.095... it disables RGSC bt when i click on LaunchGTAIV.exe...it opens with GTA IV.EXE...help me out of this problem..

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 04:05 PM

where can we find the original DVD crack??

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 05:58 AM

The original DVD's can be purchased in stores. You can also download the game from such places as Steam or D2D.

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE (mkey82 @ Jun 30 2010, 12:14)
Change the system driver letters accordingly.

What do you need to do? Pls write what exactly....

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:28 AM

You need to change this

C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Application Data\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

to something like

E:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Application Data\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

if your OS is not installed on the C partition but on E (in this example). Basically it's just the folder in which you are looking for the files, the folder Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Application Data\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames must be on the system partition.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:42 AM

Hi mkey82, thanks for feedbacks smile.gif
Those archives are old, If I'm not wrong, xliveless was not so used at that time, so I didn't put it in the readme.

As soon as possible I'll modify archives with new instructions (I've already done it in italian in our site months ago) or maybe I'll link this topic wink.gif

Anyway we'll upload also tlad and tbogt saves soon, I'll let you know when I'll update my topic wink.gif

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:50 AM

No problem and no problem.

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 04:15 AM

I tried all the steps mentioned here and its still not working

After installing the game i have installed razor 1911 crack. I have not installed any patches. I downloaded the latest xlive and ran the game once.I followed all the instructions mentioned here.

I copied the game files to "savegames" directory( there was user music folder also in this location).

C:\Users\shsreeni\Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames (this is the location where I have copied the game files)

C:\Users\shsreeni\AppData\Local\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames (this the location where the game files is stored by default)

When i started the game after installing xlive.dll i saw the game files are still saved to the default location and i verfied it with the modification time.

Please need help.This is the second time I have lost my saved game files.

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 07:48 AM

Where in the first post does it say that you have to install a crack? Get rid of the crack and play it from the disc. We cannot help you if you are going to use a crack.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:18 AM

So you only have to install that one file? Everything else stays where it is, in the xliveless folder? And also, what do you do after installing? How do you launch it? I think its Launch GTAIV.exe but that doesn't work for me for some reason... I've been trying to get this working for awhile now, and I cant seem to get it right. What I did was extract the xliveless extension but whenever I launch either GTAIV.exe or LaunchGTAIV.exe, I still get

"

GTAIV.exe - Application Error

The application was unable to stat correctly (0xc0150004). Click OK to
close the application.

OK

"

just like I was getting after GTA stopped working the first time, right after a reinstall of Windows 7 64 bit... what am I doing wrong?

Also, sorry for posting on a dead thread but I didn't know where else too

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 07:03 AM

You should reread the opening post.

Savegames go into the newly created folder in My Documents.
xliveless.dll goes into the game directory.
There is no "xliveless" folder.
The game is ALWAYS and I do mean always started with the launcher.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:11 PM Edited by scooz, 18 May 2011 - 05:01 PM.

Im kind of lost. Extracted the .dll into the gta folder but nothing has changed.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:08 PM

Are you sure you've deleted previous ASI loaders?

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:37 PM

Nah i havent deleted them. I have an untouched version. Just trying to get it to work right and load the textures. Where would they be located?




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