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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:14 PM

Well, its definitely a possibility that i don't think anyone has thought of. I mean obviously Hawaii is very tropical(even more so than Vice city). It has many cliffs and mountains(like San Andreas), explorable places. It has its share of tall buildings. If you have ever watched Dog the bounty hunter(older episodes) the show takes place there, kinda gave me a sense of what hawaii's like besides the fact that bounty hunting being legal there. tounge.gif It seems like a place that doesnt get enough recognition. Its already surrounded by water so the believablity factor of a location is already there, lol. I don't know but make what you want of it but hey who knows. Would it be big enough? Yes actually, Hawaii is very very big, I mean Rockstar always has there own twists on locations so im sure they would be able to come up with some cool ideas IF THIS were the location, just pure speculation. Its a beautiful place too i mean like breathtaking. Honestly it would be a very cool place for the next gta. I could see it being based off of Honolulu the most. If you've been living inside a dumpster and don't know what Hawaii looks like well here's some nice pics:


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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:22 PM

i think hawai would be amazing i think they should it would be very good

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (tntclay @ Jan 31 2010, 22:22)
i think hawai would be amazing i think they should it would be very good

In my opinion it would definitely be better than redoing Vice City.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:50 PM

In my opinion Hawaii is f*cking boring, what could you possible do there, besides bounty hunting, and stealing from the fat rich tourists.

A list of pop movies taking place on Hawaii:

• The White Flower – 1923
• Bird of Paradise - 1932
• From Here to Eternity – 1953
• The Enemy Below – 1957
• The Old Man and the Sea – 1958
• South Pacific - 1958
• Wackiest Ship in the Army – 1960
• Blue Hawaii – 1961
• Gidget Goes Hawaiian – 1961
• Girls, Girls, Girls! -1962
• Ride the Wild Surf – 1964
• In Harm’s Way - 1965
• Hawaii – 1966
• Paradise Hawaiian Style – 1966
• Tora! Tora! Tora! 1970
• The Hawaiians – 1970
• Man With The Golden Gun – 1974
• Islands in the Stream – 1977
• Raiders of the Lost Ark – 1981
• Uncommon Valor – 1983
• Black Widow – 1985
• Karate Kid, Part 2 – 1986
• North Shore – 1987
• Throw Momma From the Train – 1987
• Lord of the Flies – 1990
• Honeymoon in Vegas - 1992
• Jurassic Park – 1993
• Waterworld – 1995
• Outbreak – 1995
• Picture Bride – 1995
• The Lost World – Jurassic Park II – 1997
• George of the Jungle – 1997
• 6 Days, 7 Nights - 1997
• Beyond Paradise – 1998
• Molokai: The Story of Father Damien – 1999
• Johnny Tsunami - 1999
• Pearl Harbor – 2001
• Planet of the Apes – 2001
• 50 First Dates – 2003
• The Ride – 2003
• The Big Bounce - 2004
• Pipeline - 2006
I mean nothing really screams out Action packed crime thriller, or comes remotely close to something like “Miami Vice” or “Scar face”.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:53 PM

QUOTE (maxopower @ Jan 31 2010, 22:50)
In my opinion Hawaii is f*cking boring, what could you possible do there, besides bounty hunting, and stealing from the fat rich tourists.

A list of pop movies taking place on Hawaii:

• The White Flower – 1923
• Bird of Paradise - 1932
• From Here to Eternity – 1953
• The Enemy Below – 1957
• The Old Man and the Sea – 1958
• South Pacific - 1958
• Wackiest Ship in the Army – 1960
• Blue Hawaii – 1961
• Gidget Goes Hawaiian – 1961
• Girls, Girls, Girls! -1962
• Ride the Wild Surf – 1964
• In Harm’s Way - 1965
• Hawaii – 1966
• Paradise Hawaiian Style – 1966
• Tora! Tora! Tora! 1970
• The Hawaiians – 1970
• Man With The Golden Gun – 1974
• Islands in the Stream – 1977
• Raiders of the Lost Ark – 1981
• Uncommon Valor – 1983
• Black Widow – 1985
• Karate Kid, Part 2 – 1986
• North Shore – 1987
• Throw Momma From the Train – 1987
• Lord of the Flies – 1990
• Honeymoon in Vegas - 1992
• Jurassic Park – 1993
• Waterworld – 1995
• Outbreak – 1995
• Picture Bride – 1995
• The Lost World – Jurassic Park II – 1997
• George of the Jungle – 1997
• 6 Days, 7 Nights - 1997
• Beyond Paradise – 1998
• Molokai: The Story of Father Damien – 1999
• Johnny Tsunami - 1999
• Pearl Harbor – 2001
• Planet of the Apes – 2001
• 50 First Dates – 2003
• The Ride – 2003
• The Big Bounce - 2004
• Pipeline - 2006
I mean nothing really screams out Action packed crime thriller, or comes remotely close to something like “Miami Vice” or “Scar face”.

I mean i was just talking about location, not gameplay aspects and such AND Who says it has to follow how real life is? I get your point but you could definitely have a good story built around Hawaii....

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:55 PM

I doubt it, I mean its hardly considered to be a hotbed for organised crime in the public eye.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:00 PM

Hate to admit it, as much as I am Pro-GTA Hawaii, it wouldn't make sense. http://www.prsearch.com/crime/hawaii/

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 22:55)
I doubt it, I mean its hardly considered to be a hotbed for organised crime in the public eye.

As i just said, 02fishera and maxopower you have some points about how possible activities and crime life would be missing but who says it has to be based around what really happens there and what people believe it is? A great story could be made, but what about Parasailing?(honestly, well maybe lol but still) or base jumping etc. idk....

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:06 PM

Don't forget one of those Brady Bunch movies!

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:12 PM

well, obviously alot of you are shooting down the idea of Hawaii as the next gta locale. Sure i see everyones point of nothing to do there and low crime rates etc.Sigh, oh well, i just thought it was cool just because how mysterious and tropical it is. Sure i want the next gta to be realistic but the story can be about what ever...as long as its plausable. And gameplay wise yes i still want a GTA IV esque realsitic feel. But Hawaii has beautiful places, mountains, cliffs, beaches etc. But you could have it in Hawaii with all the features from San Andreas and GTA IV and hey what a fun game...

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:12 PM

QUOTE (NYC PATROL @ Jan 31 2010, 23:01)
QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 22:55)
I doubt it, I mean its hardly considered to be a hotbed for organised crime in the public eye.

As i just said, 02fishera and maxopower you have some points about how possible activities and crime life would be missing but who says it has to be based around what really happens there and what people believe it is? A great story could be made, but what about Parasailing?(honestly, well maybe lol but still) or base jumping etc. idk....

Yes R* could make up a story but then R* would not be doing what they do best, which is create parodies of the media and public opinions of the locations they choose. Another factor is that the locations we see in game are what we see in movies. For example, LC is based on the NY that we see in films, not what on what NY really is and if R* keep using movies as their inspiration and they choose Haiwaii, they'd have a tough time making a story. Seriously what would a GTA Haiwaii be based on? 50 First Dates!?

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:20 PM Edited by NYC PATROL, 31 January 2010 - 11:21 PM.

QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 23:12)
QUOTE (NYC PATROL @ Jan 31 2010, 23:01)
QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 22:55)
I doubt it, I mean its hardly considered to be a hotbed for organised crime in the public eye.

As i just said, 02fishera and maxopower you have some points about how possible activities and crime life would be missing but who says it has to be based around what really happens there and what people believe it is? A great story could be made, but what about Parasailing?(honestly, well maybe lol but still) or base jumping etc. idk....

Yes R* could make up a story but then R* would not be doing what they do best, which is create parodies of the media and public opinions of the locations they choose. Another factor is that the locations we see in game are what we see in movies. For example, LC is based on the NY that we see in films, not what on what NY really is and if R* keep using movies as their inspiration and they choose Haiwaii, they'd have a tough time making a story. Seriously what would a GTA Haiwaii be based on? 50 First Dates!?

Ok ok true very good points 02fishera....Well i guess Hawaii will have to become just a dream GTA location. Very beautiful place though you gotta admit.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE (NYC PATROL @ Jan 31 2010, 23:20)
QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 23:12)
QUOTE (NYC PATROL @ Jan 31 2010, 23:01)
QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 22:55)
I doubt it, I mean its hardly considered to be a hotbed for organised crime in the public eye.

As i just said, 02fishera and maxopower you have some points about how possible activities and crime life would be missing but who says it has to be based around what really happens there and what people believe it is? A great story could be made, but what about Parasailing?(honestly, well maybe lol but still) or base jumping etc. idk....

Yes R* could make up a story but then R* would not be doing what they do best, which is create parodies of the media and public opinions of the locations they choose. Another factor is that the locations we see in game are what we see in movies. For example, LC is based on the NY that we see in films, not what on what NY really is and if R* keep using movies as their inspiration and they choose Haiwaii, they'd have a tough time making a story. Seriously what would a GTA Haiwaii be based on? 50 First Dates!?

Ok ok true very good points 02fishera....Well i guess Hawaii will have to become just a dream GTA location. Very beautiful place though you gotta admit.

Yes it is a beautifal place and somewhere I would love to visit smile.gif

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:55 PM

QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 23:12)
QUOTE (NYC PATROL @ Jan 31 2010, 23:01)
QUOTE (02fishera @ Jan 31 2010, 22:55)
I doubt it, I mean its hardly considered to be a hotbed for organised crime in the public eye.

As i just said, 02fishera and maxopower you have some points about how possible activities and crime life would be missing but who says it has to be based around what really happens there and what people believe it is? A great story could be made, but what about Parasailing?(honestly, well maybe lol but still) or base jumping etc. idk....

Yes R* could make up a story but then R* would not be doing what they do best, which is create parodies of the media and public opinions of the locations they choose. Another factor is that the locations we see in game are what we see in movies. For example, LC is based on the NY that we see in films, not what on what NY really is and if R* keep using movies as their inspiration and they choose Haiwaii, they'd have a tough time making a story. Seriously what would a GTA Haiwaii be based on? 50 First Dates!?

Exactly why I posted that list.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 12:18 PM

Actually,there's no big difference between Vice City and Hawaii.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Username482 @ Feb 1 2010, 12:18)
Actually,there's no big difference between Vice City and Hawaii.

Yes there is. What about the Jews, the Cubans the Colombians, all the old ones, the alligators, the swamps, the expensive night clubs, tony Montana, all those things that make Miami, Miami.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 02:13 PM

It would be GTA Honolulu, not GTA Hawaii. Hawaii is a series of disconnected islands with Honolulu being the only major city between them. Flying to an empty island to try and steal a beat up car would not be fun. So you'd be pretty much limited to just the Oahu island. Most of that island is Honolulu. The rest is a carpet of small towns and a few dead volcanoes.

Overall, it would be very similar to Vice City, with major exception being mountainous terrain instead of swamps. The layout would be extremely similar, though. Beach, Hotels, Downtown, Airport, Suburbs, Slums. Climate and atmosphere as well. So it would certainly work as a VC stand-in.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:13 PM

if it is Hawaii it'll be cool to fly to the other islands, the could bring back the jet from san andreas of curse Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:34 PM

When you think about it, Hawaii is a logical choice. First off it hasn't been done before, the island also contains both cities and mountains to play around with. And so I understand, Hawaii is a place with relatively much crime, including drug smuggling.
The picture from the Episodes from Liberty City guidebook kinda look like a mountain.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (jnzooger @ Jan 31 2010, 23:00)
Hate to admit it, as much as I am Pro-GTA Hawaii, it wouldn't make sense. http://www.prsearch.com/crime/hawaii/

Did you know that New York is the safest big city in America? Hardly alike LC.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:13 PM Edited by Not Volt Krueger, 01 February 2010 - 06:25 PM.

GTA maps are based off of a number of locations. The game could be in America but one of the areas could be based off of Hawaii architect/landscape, so I wouldn't necessarily root for a GTA Hawaii as much as Hawaii landscape being put into a GTA.

Definitely would be an area that contributes to the overall map. Assuming the next map is actually going to be of proper size that is.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:21 PM

You keep on repeating the location. But it doesn’t matter how many palms or mountains the islands contains, Hawaii would just not work because of the boring gameplay. The location is a big part of the series, but it’s NOT everything. Sure, killing fat tourist would be fun to start with, but when you realize that there was nothing to do, besides jumping of a cliff or bounty hunting, you would get really board.

And NO, Hawaii and Miami don’t share it’s atmosphere, Yes both places got Beaches, Hotels and a tropical climate, but so do any city remotely close to equator as well.

It’s NOT the climate that makes Miami a great GTA city, It’s the crime rate, the many minorities, the sunny city’s jet set, and most important, the many portraits made by Movies, TV shows and main stream popculture.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:02 PM

I've been to Honolulu and Miami. If it wasn't for the mountains in the distance, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Same vegetation. Same architecture. Same night life. Same hotels by the beach. Same cheap housing far away from it. Same lazy people everywhere. Not as many Japanese tourists in Miami. That's probably the biggest difference.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:18 PM

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Hawaii Crime Statistics for 2005


With a total population of 1,275,194, Hawaii had a total crime index of 64,368 or 1 crime for every 19.81 people.

Of which 5.05% (3,253) were of a violent nature while 94.95% (61,115) were crimes against property.


Hah I knew it, Hawaii will make a perfect GTA location!

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE (maxopower @ Feb 1 2010, 13:38)
QUOTE (Username482 @ Feb 1 2010, 12:18)
Actually,there's no big difference between Vice City and Hawaii.

Yes there is. What about the Jews, the Cubans the Colombians, all the old ones, the alligators, the swamps, the expensive night clubs, tony Montana, all those things that make Miami, Miami.

So,Vice City(Miami) is a better location?

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 09:22 PM

The Yakuza operate in Hawaii, they buy guns for dirt cheap in the U.S and sell them in Japan for heaps of cash.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 11:21 PM

I knew alot of you people would finally pull through for Hawaii! tounge2.gif It sure is becoming clear that Hawaii does have a history of crime and violence. No place is perfect. Even the tiniest bits of history could be built upon for a story. BTW who says R* can't use Hawaii as a locale but still use influences from Movies and tv shows not based around Hawaii? R* could even do a gta Hawaii where the story revolves around big gangs and families moving their operations to Hawaii where there may be more privacy for them than other places. Smuggled goods, drugs,guns etc. I don't know but it sounds good to me. Just think a locale like Vice City but better with Mountains, Cliffs, Huge Beaches, even more tropical, big expanses of land etc.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 01:18 AM

Hawaii would be beautiful. It'll have the hot, dreamy atmosphere of a sun-drenched Vice City, and the added intimacy in that it suits the island aesthetic very well. Not to mention the pop culture that could be raped in true R* style; politics, music and immigrants. The only reason why I've been so pro-VC is that I just really fancy somewhere warm and for a game to bring me the same feelings I had back in 2002 when I first played it.

I'm wet for sprawling, empty roads and deadly cliffs too.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 10:30 AM

Looks good for a Just Cause game. I don't know how it would work with GTA.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:23 PM

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Looks good for a Just Cause game. I don't know how it would work with GTA.

If you say that then you must have forgotten about San Andreas, wouldn't you? I mean San Andreas was very wide open, had mountains(other high elevations also), places to explore, beaches etc. I don't see how a gta Hawaii would be so drastically different that it wouldn't work as a game... turn.gif monocle.gif




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