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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:39 AM

 

Nvidia is really out of their mind now. 3000 bucks for a damn 2 years old tech Kepler??

And not a single damn about Maxwell.

It's a professional card.

 

Mark Zuckerberg bought Oculus Rift for $2B and MineCraft Oculus Rift edition is cancled because of it.

http://time.com/3784...ok-oculus-rift/

http://www.theverge....us-vr-cancelled

 

I know. But also a gaming card. But 3k?


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:50 AM Edited by yojo2, 26 March 2014 - 06:50 AM.

$3000 for a dual Titan Black. What the hell.
Seriously, who would buy this instad of two Titans? A single Titan Black costs $1000...

What were they thinking???

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:33 PM Edited by Slamman, 26 March 2014 - 02:35 PM.

A top tier PC can run over $10000, that's not a big surprise, but normally you'd be looking at top boutique machines in the $5000 range as adequate.

 

I got an oldish topic about WIndows and Intel's future progress here, since Windows 9 is being discussed, and XP being phased out.

 

I just started playing around with a boot into memory OS, miniXP, and seeing what I can do with it, even with 4GBs of DDR2 installed and dual core, the miniXP installing by default runs out of virtual space, and I can't get any audio just yet, but I hope to find a solution that works, it all possible

 

http://www.cnet.com/...cond-half-2014/

 

Made a booting util CD from these guys;

 

http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

 

Works wonders,but the utilities work under different requirements, just so you know. Been testing all day yesterday

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#1144

Posted 14 April 2014 - 08:42 PM

Some may already know about this, but sharing is caring so...

Newegg is now shipping selected items to the UK and Australia!

http://www.newegg.co...?ID=1218&Type=3


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Posted 15 April 2014 - 05:13 AM

@Slamman: on a side note, Hiren's Boot CD is generally considered illegal. ;)

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#1146

Posted 01 May 2014 - 08:23 PM

Some pics the upcoming Broadwell motherboard. The long SATA connectors are SATA Express and most should have the M.2 slot.

 

Gigabyte

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Asus

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Asrock

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 07:07 AM

The MSI board looks fantastic. Top of my list for when I do my next rebuild.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:32 AM

Just so you keep in mind, however, Intel's normal Tick-Tock for processors includes the Broadwell as part of the 4th gen Nehalem. The next die-shrink will be the big TICK. Don't spend too much on deluxe ATX goodies until DDR4 is out for consumers! haha

 

Oh, and off the Hiren, no more mentions of that, trust me, but their Linux inclusion boot distros / etc.... I tried that in place of miniXP and it worked! Played audio whereas I couldn't find a way with Windows. I was just tooling around with some ideas, but I normally just never took to using Linux, this gives me a chance to play around with it. Also lets you create bootable USB from various different Linux versions. I couldn't get it to format before, for the life of me


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#1149

Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:53 AM

X99 is due to support DDR4 but is going to be silly expensive. Like £500 for an average motherboard expensive. Plus Skylake isn't going to be around until early 2016 by most estimates.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 09:07 AM Edited by Slamman, 02 May 2014 - 09:21 AM.

I remember well when DDR3 first arrived, Now memory prices have shifted again, probably a few times in the past 2 years or so.

DDR3 was costly as well, but performance improvements were deemed too similar to justify the expense.

 

Broadwell will be good, I think improvements to the internal GPU, but I'm probably more interested in Skylake as you mentioned. The main thing Intel has talked about so far is power consumption and how the newest CPUs make a major improvement in laptop battery life. For desktops that's not a major concern, if even. (Should run a lot cooler, not like the good old Pentium D line Prescotts

 

Shrinking the die and leaving the CPU the same physical size means more room internally for GPU, etc.!

 

Lets see if this whets the appetite...

http://forum.overclo...ead.php?t=57605

http://forum.noteboo...kylake-way.html

 

http://www.tomshardw...om-b55-ghz.html


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:11 AM

I'm just hoping the die shrink doesn't have an abysmal effect on thermal performance. The last couple of die shrinks have been okay but the transition from Ivy to Haswell was really bad for those of us who overclock.

I'd rather Intel didn't bother with the onboard GPU and used the additional space to improve the thermal properties of the chip. So few people actually use the integrated GPU away from portable applications it seems a bit pointless to even bother.

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#1152

Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:01 PM

Actually, I think part of the reason the iGPUs are now mandatory on Intel CPUs is to increase die size, to make the heat spread better.

Speaking of thermal performance, the "new" Devil Canyon CPUs (Haswell Refresh with unlocked multiplier) are said to use new TIM under the IHS. I wonder how much of a difference it'll make. The original TIM on Haswell chips is piss poor, many people changed it to CLU/CLP and saw 10-20C improvement in temps.

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#1153

Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:38 PM

Are Devil Canyon going to be Z87 or Z97? 14nm or 22? I've heard lots of conflicting reports but they sound perfect.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:42 PM Edited by yojo2, 02 May 2014 - 12:43 PM.

22nm just like Haswell. Not sure about the chipset, there were some rumors they'd be compatible only with Z97 boards (which I hope isn't true, that'd be a dick move - it's not a new generation for God's sake)

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#1155

Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:46 PM

Pricing on some of the Broadwell boards

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#1156

Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:50 PM

Nice! Really nice over-pricing the hardware, NOT! Only just some refresh and hardware gets more expensive suddenly.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:18 PM Edited by Slamman, 02 May 2014 - 06:01 PM.

Articles suggest the die already shrinks with Broadwell, from Haswell, they suggest refinement before shrinking the die again, largely possible with the advent of 3D transisters, so you have a higher layer on the silicon, rather then traditionally flat wafer.

 

Overclocking maybe better suited to the E series for desktops, the GPU inside the CPU for me is long overdue, because Intel used to call their chipset native graphics "Extreme", when they were anything but, and the real plus is automatic GPU switching in laptops, both integrated and discrete graphics you can switch manually, but also operate automatically (like my Asus B53 notebook)

 

Keep forgetting as well, anytime you have memory controller tech advancing, bet on a new socket ie, new mobo purchase requirement hahaha


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 06:31 PM

@Stinky12: that's interesting, are Broadwell chips confirmed to be compatible with Z97 chipsets? If so, then it makes investing in a Z97 mobo more worthwhile.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:12 PM Edited by Stinky12, 03 May 2014 - 09:18 PM.

It's said Broadwell is a refresh to Haswell, so why would it not work on socket 1150. If Intel made broadwell with another socket, then that would be stupid move, but then again it won't be for them, cause they're here to make money and lot of it. Yep like $12.8 billion in their first quarter.

http://newsroom.inte...-year-over-year

 

Intel Devil's Canyon is a minor Haswell refresh, with better TIM. It's still their 4th gen CPU.

Broadwell will be the next true successor to Haswell, will run on socket 1150 and it's their 5th gen CPU.

List of Intel's Devil's Canyon desktop CPUs. (Credit: TechPowerUP)

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 06:17 AM

Well, the Broadwell was confirmed to be incompatible with currently available motherboards a long time ago, despite it having the same LGA1150 socket. So, the compatibility of Z97 and Broadwell is kinda interesting :)

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:42 PM

Must have missed that tech news on imcompability with broadwell and the current chipset. Doesn't matter, I'm still waiting for Haswell-E. Computex should be here in about a month, can't wait to see what they bring.

Some info on Intel's Skylake
vr-zone.com/articles/new-details-intels-skylake-revealed/76848.html

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 08:41 PM Edited by Slamman, 08 May 2014 - 01:43 PM.

I just took a test drive of Windows 8.1 dated last year by MS, so I don't know of additional changes, but the Start button STILL SUX! hahaha

 

I find the block graphics Very Off putting, and no large improvement as a desktop OS replacement, but it's sure better then the Developer Preview I first played with, that was a nearly empty template of an OS relying on user customization and MS' own Store, and Internet connectivity.

It's no secret being online nearly all the time would be most beneficial for how the OS operates.

 

Haswell is 4th gen Nehalem so it makes sense perhaps that Broadwell is shrinking in die size. I am among those who invested into first iteration Nehalem, my first PC upgrade to new in a long time, early adopters DO GET BURNED! haha

 

On another note, I was going to my bank ATM a fortnight ago, and someone was discarding two monitors... again, free computer goodies I could take in, one a large, cumbersome CRT, too old and uninteresting, the other a Samsung 226BW color flatscreen, apparently new in 2007, it's a TN based 22 inch monitor with an apparent history of problems, no surprise, mine (now it is!) suffering similar fate, like the found 47 inch I'm also working on, these will likely be my main new flatscreens once addressed. In the process of repair research, I'm including this for helpful guide to the problems you'd encounter. This is a more long winded explanation then I like to give, or read, but it covers areas I'd be looking at. Even CCFL replacement, which I've done on laptop screens, and most recently, LCD to LED replacement conversions, which worked so well, I plan to do more in the future!

 

http://www.tomshardw...cker-ccfl-probs


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:54 PM

Intel's Haswell refresh (Devil's Canyon) review

http://anandtech.com...-i3-4360-tested

 

And MSI Z97 gaming motherboard giveaway

http://anandtech.com...rboard-giveaway


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:37 PM Edited by yojo2, 14 May 2014 - 06:39 PM.

Something's bugging me. As far as I can tell there are virtually no differences between Haswell and Haswell Refresh chips, other than increased clocks. Well... then the Xeon E3-1231V3 and E3-1240V3 seem to be identical to the letter. What's the point?

I don't complain since the new E3-1231V3 is a fair bit cheaper, but that's still a bit confusing.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 05:10 AM Edited by iNero, 15 May 2014 - 05:11 AM.

What is your guys opinion on this build:

 

GPU: 3072MB MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming 3G Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16

PSU: 450 Watt be quiet! System Power 7 Bulk Non-Modular 80+ Silve

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230v3 4x 3.30GHz (3.7 Boost) So.1150 BOX

MoBo: ASRock H87 Pro4 Intel H87 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX

Case: BitFenix Shadow Midi Tower

WLan: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 WL450MBit PCIe

SSD: 120GB Crucial M500 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s MLC

HDD: 1000GB Seagate Desktop HDD ST1000DM003 64MB 3.5"

RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ares DDR3-1333 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit

DVD-Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD-RW SATA 1.5Gb/s

 

 

Altogether I would pay: € 843,29

 

I already placed the order but I have to wire the money first, so I could still change some things.

Some IT guys I know helped me to build this.


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:24 AM

Maybe I'd go for a different PSU, but overall it seems alright.

What store are you buying from? If they already have Haswell Refresh CPUs in stock, then you might get the Xeon E3-1231V3 - 100MHz higher clocks for similar price.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:34 AM

You mean 500Watt instead of 450?
Yea, just saw that they listed the new Xeon to arrive in 4 days. Thats probably why the 1230 was on sale for 10euro less than the new one. Is it worth paying 10 euro more?

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:52 AM

Wattage is not an issue, personally I'd just rather have a modular PSU, preferably with independent voltage regulation or DC-DC. But this BQ is decent for its price, if you're after silence.

As for the CPU... hard to say really. The performance increase is negligible, but €10 extra is not much either.
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Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:44 AM

Well, I took a 500W now as I wasnt sure about 450 anyways. 450W would have been enough I guess, but I rather be on the safe side.

 

Also switched to the 1231.


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Posted 03 June 2014 - 05:21 AM

Computex 2014 is here, to start off some Asus stuffs!

 

Maximus VII Formula

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Maximus VII Impact

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Crossblade Ranger

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ROG G20

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ROG GR8

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