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#3211

Posted 19 December 2017 - 03:19 PM Edited by yojc, 19 December 2017 - 03:19 PM.

One thing I know for sure is not to compare the noise data between manufacturers, as there's no unified fan noise measurement procedure.

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 05:21 PM

I've got the NF-F12 Industrial PPC fans for my radiator. They're quieter than the standard fans and marginally quieter than the Corsair AF120 quiet editions. At £21 each I don't think I'd buy them again, but they look mighty nice.

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#3213

Posted 19 December 2017 - 07:05 PM

I didn't realize USB ground loops were a thing until today and my PC's PSU is great at that apparently. What a headache. Suffice it to say that I will never use an unbalanced audio source with studio monitors ever again.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:11 AM Edited by Blaze, 22 December 2017 - 12:11 AM.

@britlads Scan have a decent sale worth a look, just grabbed a CM V750W 80+ gold full modular PSU for £83 including Saturday shipping


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:23 AM Edited by Andreaz1, 22 December 2017 - 01:24 AM.

Got one of those in my desktop but the older semimodular model, works great and doesn't make a sound. Then again, I'm probably only hitting it for about a third of it's capacity. I got it because I also got a great deal on it.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:11 AM Edited by Blaze, 22 December 2017 - 11:35 AM.

I needed something with 2 8pin eps12v connectors, was looking at a 650w EVGA semi modular unit which would've been £75 posted but with the CM on sale coming in at £8 more it was a no brainer; full modularity is nice, bit of a smaller form factor plus it has more amps on the 12v rail (62 as opposed to 56) so bonuses all round :p

 

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:11 PM Edited by Andreaz1, 22 December 2017 - 02:11 PM.

I needed something with 2 8pin eps12v connectors, was looking at a 650w EVGA semi modular unit which would've been £75 posted but with the CM on sale coming in at £8 more it was a no brainer; full modularity is nice, bit of a smaller form factor plus it has more amps on the 12v rail (62 as opposed to 56) so bonuses all round :p
 
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Yeah I think the CM V-series is underrated, not many people look at it but it's god nice features and very good quality.

Also wow, triple channel memory #2008called
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 02:17 PM

me and my dual xeons are offended :(

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:06 PM

me and my dual xeons are offended :(

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 03:08 PM

Slowly coming together, picked up a 60GB Kingston SSD brand new for £15 lastnight (on the smaller side but sufficient for what I need), psu arrived this morning meaning I could also chick the spare 275 in I had lying around. Now just to wait for my friend to get his new gpu so I can snag his 970, chuck two x5650s in there and it'll be done (well I also need a soundcard, a few fans and maybe replacement vent covers from Fractal). Once I have all the parts I'm gonna tear it down, give it all a good clean and rebuild, do the cables proper etc. I might also get pcie extensions as i'm not keen on the daisy chained ones.

 

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:39 AM

What are you going to do with this machine once you're done with it? Do you have anything specific planned for it? The parts seem quite niche.
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Posted 24 December 2017 - 10:33 AM Edited by Blaze, 24 December 2017 - 10:40 AM.

Daily driver, some gaming (mostly just V/CS), also do some work with Sony Vegas, AAE, Photoshop etc so the cores/threads are nice. Might not be the most logical of part choices but atleast to myself the LGA1366 platform offers probably the best price/performance ratio on the used side of things. I did have a spreadsheet with costs but I lost it installing Win10; was £62 for the supermicro x8dtl-i and two e5530s, £20 for the Fractal case/AIO, £6.50 for the intel cooler, £15 for the SSD, £83 for the PSU, £25 for 12gb RAM but my friend bought those as a Christmas gift so that's coming in at £211. Once I chuck in the 970, two X5650's and maybe another 12gb of RAM it'll come in at just over £400.

 

Obviously all fairly old now, no warranty etc (well PSU does) but still great price to performance especially considering a new rig on a £400 budget would get you what a g4600, maybe an r3 1200, entry level card like a 460 etc.


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Posted 26 December 2017 - 03:24 PM

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I think I'm gonna opt for 2 of the Xeon X5667's (4c8t turbo 3.46) as opposed to the x5650 (6c12t turbo 3.06).

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 11:33 PM

What's the cheapest way to input an optical (digital) audio signal into a computer besides a dedicated DAC\audio interface? It should technically be possible. If I could somehow input the digital output of, say, the Xbox One into my computer then I could send that digital signal through Windows to my actual sound interface. I sort of already do this but with an analog signal that's converted back to digital (the HDMI audio output on my monitor goes back into the integrated sound card in my PC and then into the interface, but that's too many AD\DA conversions for my liking).

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:24 PM

Any hacker bros here know how Amazon was sploited? They've been having problems with users getting their email accounts changed last six months. Seems like an SQL-injection technique. 

 

https://www.facebook...153273445973124<- Check it


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 10:44 PM

It's probably social engineering. Call customer support up, change the deets. Convincing a call center cube monkey that you're someone else with a few lucky guesses is horrifyingly easy.

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#3227

Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:36 AM

Major Intel f*ck up that could lead to 30% performance reduction after the patch: https://www.theregis...pu_design_flaw/

 

So far the indications are that it's primarily going to have an impact on server chips, but we won't know the full picture until the fix is out and we see the benchmarks. So far, some synthetic I/O benchmarks on Linux have been released and it does not look good for Intel: https://www.phoronix...15-x86pti&num=2

However, gaming performance on Linux doesn't seem to be affected: https://www.phoronix...al-Gaming-Tests

So hopefully it won't be affected on Windows either.

 

You could say that this is an EPYC disaster for Intel.


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 09:58 AM Edited by  dice, 06 January 2018 - 09:58 AM.

Not everyone was fond of OpenBSDs performance benchmarks, and now everyone will get their very own OpenBSD!

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#3229

Posted 07 January 2018 - 07:50 PM

Major Intel f*ck up that could lead to 30% performance reduction after the patch: https://www.theregis...pu_design_flaw/

 

So far the indications are that it's primarily going to have an impact on server chips, but we won't know the full picture until the fix is out and we see the benchmarks. So far, some synthetic I/O benchmarks on Linux have been released and it does not look good for Intel: https://www.phoronix...15-x86pti&num=2

However, gaming performance on Linux doesn't seem to be affected: https://www.phoronix...al-Gaming-Tests

So hopefully it won't be affected on Windows either.

 

You could say that this is an EPYC disaster for Intel.

f*ck Intel serves them right the c*nts.

So happy to see AMD didn't f*ck up this time and Ryzen is chewing bubblegum and kicking ass. Would be sweet to see some Athlon 64-esque days again. :D


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 09:25 PM

f*ck Intel serves them right the c*nts.

So happy to see AMD didn't f*ck up this time and Ryzen is chewing bubblegum and kicking ass. Would be sweet to see some Athlon 64-esque days again. :D

 

 

 

kicking ass? in what ?


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:29 PM

Relative to Piledriver/Bulldozer AMD is kicking ass.

 

Also in terms of price/performance AMD is murdering Intel right now. Ryzen is pretty much on par with Intel in most realistic use cases, I just want AMD to make a bigger jump in performance with the next iteration so that Intel becomes the underdog like in the Athlon 64 days.

 

I remember when the best thing you could get was a 64 FX57. <3


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:03 PM Edited by HaRdSTyLe_83, 07 January 2018 - 11:08 PM.

ok, but be specific them. where exactly is AMD kicking ass? in price ill give you that, but other then that?

 

im mostly a gamer and have i5-6600k, in what scenario would a 1700x be better then a 8700k if i intend on upgrade?

 

edit: i may be a little selfish here but i dont care about other peoples problems :p servers etc.. i just want to know the impact of this on my life, i haven't seen any so far


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:09 PM Edited by Blaze, 07 January 2018 - 11:11 PM.

For the most part I see Ryzen popping up alot for as you say price/performance or budget builds but when it comes to top of the line builds people are still generally going Intel. Be interesting to see how the market share differs by Q2 but to be honest I can't really see AMD closing the gap which is currently 18.10% to 81.90%. That being said AMD's Raven Ridge APU's are shaping up to be quality chips.

 

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i3 8100 with UHD 630 integrated graphics is $117 MSRP,  whereas the R3 2200G is said to retail for $99MSRP, likewise the i5 8400 which is $185 MSRP against the R5 2400G which is said to retail at $169 MSRP. Both those chips seem to be providing solid budget gaming chips suitable for entry level rigs that could be upgraded at a a later date whilst still having a pleasant gaming experience in the meantime. I say seem in the sense we've all seen AMD fail to live up to their promises in the past :p

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:15 PM Edited by anubis., 07 January 2018 - 11:19 PM.

In gaming.

If you're talking about price/performance a 1700x is a much better deal than a 8700k.

 

If you want something that is faster than the 8700k from AMD wait for Zen 2. At this point though, since AMD has finally caught up to Intel, it'll be like the video card game where AMD takes the crown for a while, and then it goes to nVidia and back to AMD again, and so on. So if you keep waiting, you'll play the waiting game forever.

All in all, if you're a gamer or any kind of computer user who doesn't have infinite money, and doesn't require the fastest bleeding edge stuff, AMD is a far better option than Intel.

 

@Blaze, Oh yeah AMD is going to take a while to catch up to Intel in terms of market share, because of all the dodgy sh*t Intel did in the past (and still does I'm sure) which set AMD back a LOT in terms of OEM adoption. That's why I said f*ck Intel. They didn't f*ck over AMD as much as they f*cked over the consumer. I wanna see them take Ls for the foreseeable future.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 05:03 PM Edited by Dealux, 10 January 2018 - 05:05 PM.

LG V30 has a built-in ESS Sabre32 DAC chip. It's expensive as f*ck though but maybe I'll be able to get one used at some point in the future. More phones should have audiophile grade DACs although this kinda makes me regret buying my portable OPPO DAC.
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Posted 10 January 2018 - 08:13 PM

I've heard amazing things about LG's V series.

 

If it's too expensive, get a used V20. Those things are incredible too and they're dirt cheap used (or even brand new tbh).


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 07:01 AM

i just got a alienware amp but a 1080ti is super expensive now.should i wait till the next gpu are out or keep finding a 1080ti that isnt a arm and a leg to buy? i have a 1070m but i need more power.


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#3238

Posted 15 January 2018 - 12:15 PM

i just got a alienware amp but a 1080ti is super expensive now.should i wait till the next gpu are out or keep finding a 1080ti that isnt a arm and a leg to buy? i have a 1070m but i need more power.



If you play the waiting game you are going to wait forever.
About the external graphics card i dont know mutch about that, last time i have read about it there was something about the bandwith of thunderbolt3 not being enough.

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#3239

Posted 15 January 2018 - 02:09 PM

I'm probably going to pick up one of the EVGA 1080Ti Gaming black editions tail end of this month.

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Floating around under £690 at the moment.
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Posted 15 January 2018 - 02:55 PM

All things considered that's not too bad, I've seen some regular 1080's going for 450-500+ on the used market so you could easily sell off the 1080 you have now, make a good chunk of your money back and still get a good performance increase.




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