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#121

Posted 09 November 2009 - 01:41 PM

Yeah that's quite similar to the idea II J0SePh X II had. I think it could work... probably better than my list as far as playing the games go as there isn't as much switching back and forth.. But I think in terms of chronology the list is better as doing the game in chapters doesn't give you an idea of when things actually happen in relation to the other stories.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Nov 9 2009, 13:41)
Yeah that's quite similar to the idea II J0SePh X II had. I think it could work... probably better than my list as far as playing the games go as there isn't as much switching back and forth.. But I think in terms of chronology the list is better as doing the game in chapters doesn't give you an idea of when things actually happen in relation to the other stories.

Oh, most definitely the list is better for chronology. Hell, the only reason I could even come up with these chapters is through what has been established in the list.

I was kinda hoping II J0SePh X II would finish his list first, as it was what gave me the inspiration to do this. I'm not sure if he is keeping up with the discussions anymore though.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 09:44 PM

Was my time line any good? Or was it all wrong?

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE (Le Rusecue @ Nov 9 2009, 21:44)
Was my time line any good? Or was it all wrong?

Where is it?

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 05:17 AM

QUOTE (Le Rusecue @ Nov 9 2009, 21:44)
Was my time line any good? Or was it all wrong?

It looked fine to me. Any timeline should work as long as you follow these basic principles I believe.

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Clean and Serene has to happen the morning before or after Final Destination.

It's War has to take place some time before (or directly after?)Roman's Sorrow.

Final Interview has to happen sometime around This Sh*t's Cursed.

This Sh*t's Cursed has to take place after Three Leaf Clover.

All of Tony's missions before Frosting On The Cake must take place before Diamonds in the Rough. (I Luv LC, Practice Swing, Chinese Takeout, Blog This!..., Bang Bang and Boulevard Baby)

Photo Shoot must be done directly before Roman's Holiday.

Taking In The Trash must take place directly after Diamonds in the Rough.

Ladies Night has to happen after Ransom.

Party's Over has to happen after Pest Control. (or whatever mission unlocks the Nightclub Closure story in GTAIV, not sure which)

Departure Time has to take place after either A Revenger's Tragedy or A Dish Served Cold. (depending on the ending you choose)

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Since GTAIV and The Ballad of Gay Tony have such an open mission structure, these are the only absolutes you must follow for the stories to follow each other chronologically. (as well as mission prerequisites featured in the game, but that is obvious)

There might be some more I am missing, but seeing as it is late I'm not taking the time to look for them right now.


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#126

Posted 11 November 2009 - 06:35 PM

So, just wondering, is that list quite accurate M.O.B? If it is, then I'd llike to play the three GTA's in that order. smile.gif

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#127

Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:25 PM

There's a problem with your list, MOB. You have Rigged to Blow placed before Logging On, but you can't gain access to Rigged to Blow until you complete Logging On.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:28 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 11 November 2009 - 09:31 PM.

QUOTE (Jargner @ Nov 11 2009, 21:25)
There's a problem with your list, MOB. You have Rigged to Blow placed before Logging On, but you can't gain access to Rigged to Blow until you complete Logging On.

That's not true. I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. Logging on is unlocked by Final Destination which takes place before Rigged to Blow icon14.gif

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:30 PM

No... I'm actually playing the game right now, and I have to access to Logging On, but not Rigged to Blow. The wiki agrees with me. (Sure, it can be edited by anyone, but it has to count for something, right?)

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (Jargner @ Nov 11 2009, 21:30)
No... I'm actually playing the game right now, and I have to access to Logging On, but not Rigged to Blow. The wiki agrees with me. (Sure, it can be edited by anyone, but it has to count for something, right?)

I made an edit in order to elaborate more. I can put it right after Final Destination if it bothers you that much. In reality though it can be done anytime before Search and Delete.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:37 PM

Hm, strange. I believe you're right about Logging On being unlocked by Final Destination, but what about Rigged to Blow? It looks as though it's unlocked by completing Logging On, but you have Rigged to Blow placed before Logging On. (Heh, reading this out loud makes me realize how confusing I sound)

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Jargner @ Nov 11 2009, 21:37)
Hm, strange. I believe you're right about Logging On being unlocked by Final Destination, but what about Rigged to Blow? It looks as though it's unlocked by completing Logging On, but you have Rigged to Blow placed before Logging On. (Heh, reading this out loud makes me realize how confusing I sound)

Rigged to Blow should become available after Final Destination regardless of wether you do Logging On or not... Maybe it will pop up if you wait a while.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:44 PM

Well, right after I completed Logging On, Rigged to Blow popped up.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE (Jargner @ Nov 11 2009, 21:44)
Well, right after I completed Logging On, Rigged to Blow popped up.

Probably just a coincidence

EDIT: Actually no I got confused.. You're right I'll change it now.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:49 PM

Alright, great. Glad I could contribute to this list. biggrin.gif
(Even if it was a minor correction >_>)

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE (Jargner @ Nov 11 2009, 21:49)
Alright, great. Glad I could contribute to this list. biggrin.gif
(Even if it was a minor correction >_>)

It's all about the details man smile.gif Thanks for that icon14.gif

In other list related news, I'm thinking of changing the list around a bit so that Gerry and Derrick's missions take place right after Francis's. What do people think... Yay or Nay??

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 10:21 PM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Nov 11 2009, 22:01)
QUOTE (Jargner @ Nov 11 2009, 21:49)
Alright, great. Glad I could contribute to this list. biggrin.gif
(Even if it was a minor correction >_>)

It's all about the details man smile.gif Thanks for that icon14.gif

In other list related news, I'm thinking of changing the list around a bit so that Gerry and Derrick's missions take place right after Francis's. What do people think... Yay or Nay??

Yay, because thats how I always do 'em colgate.gif
And we meet Francis first, his missions are also easier and are not so involved in the story

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 07:29 PM

You should add random characters, feels incomplete otherwise. Also what times do you hear the news. Maybe work ut out in the future.

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE (MitchJ90 @ Nov 12 2009, 19:29)
You should add random characters, feels incomplete otherwise. Also what times do you hear the news. Maybe work ut out in the future.

Randiom character missions aren't compulsary i.e don't need to be completed in order to advance in the story... that's why I didn't include them.

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 06:36 AM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Nov 13 2009, 00:19)
QUOTE (MitchJ90 @ Nov 12 2009, 19:29)
You should add random characters, feels incomplete otherwise.  Also what times do you hear the news. Maybe work ut out in the future.

Randiom character missions aren't compulsary i.e don't need to be completed in order to advance in the story... that's why I didn't include them.

There is also no real way to figure out "when" they take place besides the point in which they are unlocked. So you could literally just place the random character missions anywhere you wish after the mission that unlocks them.

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 02:24 AM

QUOTE (liquidus119 @ Nov 13 2009, 06:36)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Nov 13 2009, 00:19)
QUOTE (MitchJ90 @ Nov 12 2009, 19:29)
You should add random characters, feels incomplete otherwise.  Also what times do you hear the news. Maybe work ut out in the future.

Randiom character missions aren't compulsary i.e don't need to be completed in order to advance in the story... that's why I didn't include them.

There is also no real way to figure out "when" they take place besides the point in which they are unlocked. So you could literally just place the random character missions anywhere you wish after the mission that unlocks them.

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 02:41 AM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Nov 14 2009, 02:24)
QUOTE (liquidus119 @ Nov 13 2009, 06:36)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Nov 13 2009, 00:19)
QUOTE (MitchJ90 @ Nov 12 2009, 19:29)
You should add random characters, feels incomplete otherwise.  Also what times do you hear the news. Maybe work ut out in the future.

Randiom character missions aren't compulsary i.e don't need to be completed in order to advance in the story... that's why I didn't include them.

There is also no real way to figure out "when" they take place besides the point in which they are unlocked. So you could literally just place the random character missions anywhere you wish after the mission that unlocks them.

True That!!

Even so, Random Characters will only appear after the mission they become available on the list, so that' another reason why they don't need to be included. Plus Jeff would make it awakrd as he'll call 3-5 days after his first mission, wouldn't be easy to place that on the list!

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 07:38 PM

I've updated the list and put all of the McReary missions (before Gerry's arrest) after one another. Let me know what ya'll think

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 10:43 PM Edited by adzy28394, 15 November 2009 - 10:45 PM.

I'm currently doing a playthrough of OP's list and frankly it's amazing, well done cookie.gif

BUT right now I'm stuck

I am at around this point:

[E] Marta Full Of Grace
[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words
[E] Shifting Weight
[GMC] I Need Your Clothes, Yours Boots and Your Motorcycle
[GT] Practice Swing [H]
[DMC] Smackdown
[YA] Sexy Time
[DMC] Babysitting
[YA] High Dive
[DMC] Tunnel of Death
[J] End of Chapter
[FMC] Blood Brothers
[J] Bad Standing

I am having trouble unlocking the mission 'Babysitting', as Derrick has not said anything, and neither has Packie or gerry, so something is amiss. Whenever I try ringing them (to unlock it) they say their answering machines. All I am seeing on my mini map are opening for Ray Boccino's missions and Playboy X, so I'm kind of stuck. What do you suggest I do to unlock Babysitting?

tl;dr Wtf Babysitting hasn't unlocked yet

EDIT: Okay, important note: Just played now, and apparantly you need to complete 'Long Wall to Fall' before you can play 'Babysitting', after Ray's text giving you the Alderney safehouse.

What the hell? xD

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 10:48 PM

QUOTE (adzy28394 @ Nov 15 2009, 16:43)
EDIT: Okay, important note: Just played now, and apparantly you need to complete 'Long Wall to Fall' before you can play 'Babysitting', after Ray's text giving you the Alderney safehouse.

Correct. My mission tree says you need A Long Way to Fall and Smackdown to get Babysitting.

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 10:50 PM

Okay cool, can you please post me a link to your post/thread of your list? I can't find it in this thread

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 11:12 PM

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I'm currently doing a playthrough of OP's list and frankly it's amazing, well done 

BUT right now I'm stuck

I am at around this point:

[E] Marta Full Of Grace
[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words
[E] Shifting Weight
[GMC] I Need Your Clothes, Yours Boots and Your Motorcycle
[GT] Practice Swing [H]
[DMC] Smackdown
[YA] Sexy Time
[DMC] Babysitting
[YA] High Dive
[DMC] Tunnel of Death
[J] End of Chapter
[FMC] Blood Brothers
[J] Bad Standing

I am having trouble unlocking the mission 'Babysitting', as Derrick has not said anything, and neither has Packie or gerry, so something is amiss. Whenever I try ringing them (to unlock it) they say their answering machines. All I am seeing on my mini map are opening for Ray Boccino's missions and Playboy X, so I'm kind of stuck. What do you suggest I do to unlock Babysitting?

tl;dr Wtf Babysitting hasn't unlocked yet

EDIT: Okay, important note: Just played now, and apparantly you need to complete 'Long Wall to Fall' before you can play 'Babysitting', after Ray's text giving you the Alderney safehouse.

What the hell? xD

Thanks man. I'll change the list back to the way I had it before.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 04:28 AM Edited by Magic_Al, 16 November 2009 - 04:41 AM.

Alright here it is.

First, my updated TBoGT Mission Tree. Several corrections. Previous version was based on official strategy guide. This version is based on testing. At least as much testing as I can handle.

Finally, my GTA IV-TLAD-TBoGT Integrated Mission Tree

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 09:26 AM

Okay thanks man

And to M.O.B. - Glad to help

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 10:25 AM

hey MOB,

Have started a playthrough with your list and am loving it so far, just wanted to say thanks. It may take me a while to finish with the job and girlfriend taking all my xbox time away, but i'll let you know if i run into anything along the way...




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