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Posted 04 September 2009 - 03:41 PM

Hi, I'm hoping I could get some help on how to trigger this. Maybe we can work together on how to get this to work.

QUOTE (Glenster's guide)

Jealous girlfriends

  Thanks to Carl Johnson and pdescobar for explaining their experiences in
having C.J. deal with jealous girlfriends.

  I posted a message at GTA Forums asking if anyone had seen C.J. run into a
jealous girlfriend and what could trigger her appearance.  According to an in-
formative and helpful response from pdescobar (who appears elsewhere in this
guide), this should work:

  Have C.J. make two girlfriends, but not date the 1st one or collect any Oys--
ters.  Load the same save game for each date with the 2nd one without saving
the game afterward, and "C.J. will probably run into the jealous girlfriend in
five to ten dates with her."

  Here's his account of some things to look for when it happens:

      "Imagine my surprise when I walk out of a restaurant in SF with Katie and
      a cutscene shows me Denise in her Hustler and tells me I've been spotted
      and have to lose her.  It happened two or three more times in my testing
      with other girls as well.  The jealous girl's car has a red arrow marker
      over top of it, and you have to drive quickly away and put enough distance
      between the two cars for the game to tell you it's clear.  If she catches
      up to you, there's a confrontation where both girls make wisecracks, and,
      after the jealous one leaves, the girl you were on a date with gets out of
      your car and the date becomes a failure."

  A couple of early choices are Katie, available at the start of the game, if in
an area that's off-limits until after "The Green Sabre," and Denise, available
after "Burning Desire."

  While pdescobar had C.J. get Denise as a girlfriend but not start dating till
he dated Katie, Carl Johnson (who also appears elsewhere in this guide) had C.J.
brave the attacks brought on by going into the areas that are off-limits and
get Katie as a girlfriend 1st.  If you try that, he recommends having C.J. get
"Armor, an M4 with lots of ammo, and a Shotgun with lots of ammo.  If you get a
Rocket Launcher, you don't need the Shotgun so much.  You get several seconds of
breathing space if you take out the helicopter and everybody who's shooting at
you."

  I'll add that part of the risk in having C.J. get a girlfriend in an off limit
area is that the girlfriend can be killed quickly by the storm of bullets sent
in C.J.'s direction, so I'd wait till later to have C.J. take her out on dates.
You might have C.J. get her as a girlfriend to see if she shows up on a date
with another girlfriend, though.

  (Carl Johnson adds that if C.J. gets fat, he might finish a date with Katie by
telling her, "Hey!  Put some weight on!")


  This is the formula I used that worked for me pretty quickly:

  I didn't have C.J. get any Oysters (just in case that makes a difference).

  I had C.J. get Denise for a girlfriend after "Burning Desire" but not date
her.  After "The Green Sabre," I had him get Katie (practicing t'ai chi on the
lawn of Avispa Golf Course) as a girlfriend.  Each starts with a 15% Stat for
success in dating.

  Several times, I had C.J. get Denise to come out of her house for a date then
had C.J. run off.  Each time, a message said C.J. abandoned her, the date is
over, and the Stat for her dropped four or five percent.  I did this till her
Stat reached zero, which makes it disappear from the Stats.  A new Stat appears:
Number of Disastrous Dates.  (You don't read that anyone brags about that one a
lot on the Gamefaqs message boards.)

  (At this point, if you try my plan, you might want to wait till the SF save
houses can be bought and have C.J. buy one near Katie's house in NW SF.  I was
in a hurry to test this and had C.J. do the Taxi mission, etc., in SF between
dates.)

  When I tried this, Katie always wanted a dinner date for her 1st several
dates, and C.J. took her to the diner N of her house.  After the 1st one, they
got in his car, and after the message "She wants you to drive her home!  This
could be it...," there was a picture of Denise's Hustler and the message:
"You've been spotted by another girlfriend.  Quick--shake her off your tail!"
You're supposed to have C.J. drive his date away without letting the jealous
girlfriend's car get near his.

  The jealous girlfriend's car is shown as a blip on the radar, but it wasn't
hard to know where Denise was.  Her car came from the street above the E side
of the lot of the diner (where the vehicle exit is), right over the ledge, and
stopped beside C.J.'s car before he could turn it around.  There was a brief
scene in which Denise insulted C.J. to Katie, and Katie insulted Denise: "Look--
a talking pig."  Then both girlfriends disappeared.  A message appeared: "You've
been discovered two-timing.  Your date is over."  The Stat for Katie dropped to
six percent.

  In the few times I tested this, Denise showed up after the 1st date or after
the 1st couple of dates.

  To let C.J. succeed at this, I had him park by the diner with the car facing W
near the stairs on the W side of the diner parking lot.  After C.J. took Katie
inside the diner, he drove her up the stairs to the street and her house.

  After a success, you get the message: "You've managed to lose the jealous
girlfriend.  Well done."

  Carl Johnson had the jealous girlfriend show up when he used a similar strate-
gy.  After he had C.J. abandon dates with Denise till his success rate with her
went down to zero, though, he had C.J. collect 50 Oysters.  When C.J. dated
Katie, Denise showed up as the jealous girlfriend.  And after C.J. dated Katie
till his success rate with her went up to about 35%, C.J. dated Denise and Katie
showed up as the jealous girlfriend.



I need help with this and it's hard to understand the method of how to trigger this. Can someone please help explain? I have all oysters already and I have 100% in all girlfriends except for Millie.



can someone post a video guide on how to do it or please help explain

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 11:23 PM Edited by OrionSR, 05 September 2009 - 07:19 PM.

I've been messing around with the Two-Timing dates in hope of collecting their BP/EP/FP/DP cars (see: http://www.gtaforums...owtopic=424135). I'll try to summarize without getting into technical details.

I want to qualify my comments. This is what I think is happening based on limited testing. I've been going over the game scripts and conducting experiments and I think this information is fairly accurate, but I'd feel much more confident if others were able to verify the findings. Perhaps there is another explanation or conditions I didn't consider.


To trigger a Two-Timing date, go on a date when CJ has more than one girlfriend. There is a 50% chance that a jealous girlfriend will appear 7 seconds after leaving the destination (dancing, food) or completing the goal (driving, drive-by). Gimp suit dates (Millie) and She Drives dates (Michelle) do not trigger jealous girlfriends.

However, Two-Timing Dates are apparently disabled forever if CJ goes on a date and only has 1 girlfriend, or if he goes on a date when he has more than 1 girlfriend but the jealous girlfriend does not appear (50% chance), or if a Two-Timing date is triggered and he manages to evade the jealous girlfriend. Again, Gimp Suit dates and She Drives dates do not apply.

If a two-timing date is triggered, CJ can make progress with the girl being dated, avoid losing progress with the jealous girlfriend, and keep future two-timing dates active by taking the girlfriend being dated home without losing the jealous girlfriend. This is the situation that allows jacking the proofed car.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 01:59 AM

I've played the game more than 27 times.
I've only had a meeting Once.
I got Katie as a GF early by flying in to meet her. (4 stars and wasted.)
Once when dating Denise she caught CJ by the small Ammunation store while Denise and CJ were doing drive-bys on a date.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 12:28 PM

Okay I gots to know. After you trigger this two timing thing, will it cause CJ to get dumped? Do I have to go and meet them again? How will it go for Millie and Denise? Will they ever come back if they break up with CJ?

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 01:04 PM

can't really answer that. Once I get katie and Barb as GFs I haven't bothered to do much with them. Just meet them to keep weapons when wasted/busted.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE (MC_320 @ Sep 5 2009, 08:28)
Okay I gots to know. After you trigger this two timing thing, will it cause CJ to get dumped? Do I have to go and meet them again?

You'll just lose progress with both girlfriends.
You won't have to meet them again unless your progress with them drops to 0% and they dump you.

QUOTE (MC_320 @ Sep 5 2009, 08:28)
How will it go for Millie and Denise? Will they ever come back if they break up with CJ?

There's no way to get Millie or Denise back in an un-modded game once they've been killed, or you get dumped too (I think). I don't think there's a cheat to bring them back either.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 03:33 PM

Okay and what can I do again to drop and decrease their percentage?

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 03:56 PM

Stay in thier area and Don't date them.
Take them on a date and go to the wrong location, spend too much time driving around.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 07:50 PM Edited by OrionSR, 05 September 2009 - 11:06 PM.

QUOTE
And after C.J. dated Katie till his success rate with her went up to about 35%, C.J. dated Denise and Katie showed up as the jealous girlfriend.

This seems very unlikely. Perhaps there is a difference on PS2, Xbox, or version 2. Any successful date would have disabled Two-Timing dates unless he led the jealous girlfriend into the home sphere at the end of each date.

I'm fairly certain that girlfriend progress stats and oysters collected have no influence on Two-Timing dates.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 03:31 PM

It's happened me too.
When i dated with Mitchelle Millie started to chase me, but I escaped.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 05:19 PM

I have some questions,

Is it possible that a jealous girlfriend appear even after the failed date in a 4-star restricted area when CJ has more than one girlfriend and the dated girlfriend asks CJ to take her back home? I am talking here about the stages where the storyline hasn't been touched or attempting to date Barbara, after the Green Sabre where the Desert & LV are still restricted.

Does the two timing appearance gets disabled when the first date with the very first girlfriend in a restricted area fails automatically?

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 05:47 PM Edited by OrionSR, 07 September 2009 - 12:44 AM.

QUOTE (laezy @ Sep 6 2009, 10:19)
Does the two timing appearance gets disabled when the first date with the very first girlfriend in a restricted area fails automatically?

Maybe - I suppose I should test that idea since it allows opening the Fast-Food places so CJ can fatten up for Barbara and Michelle. There is a 7 second timer for the jealous girlfriend to appear after the date is failed due to a wanted level above 2 stars. If CJ stays in the sphere then perhaps the two-timing evaluation will be skipped.

Update: Success! I started a new game and used my trusty trainer to spawn vehicles, set money, increase muscle, and warp to San Fierro. After meeting Katie and starting a date I waited in the home sphere to fail the date as quickly as possible. The Two-Timing dates were not disabled (the TT variable is still 0 and not -1) and the Fast Food joints are unlocked.

Oh, and as far as 4 star dating goes, it doesn't appear to make any difference. I've collected the Police Rancher and then the Romero under 4 star conditions. CJ must move out of the date sphere as soon as he has control or the date will end before the Two-Timing scripts are activated.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (OrionSR @ Sep 4 2009, 23:23)
However, Two-Timing Dates are apparently disabled forever if CJ goes on a date and only has 1 girlfriend, or if he goes on a date when he has more than 1 girlfriend but the jealous girlfriend does not appear (50% chance), or if a Two-Timing date is triggered and he manages to evade the jealous girlfriend. Again, Gimp Suit dates and She Drives dates do not apply.

All still quite confusing as the other topic mentions how to permanently disable two-timing including dating a GF with non-gimp, can we suffice to say then that after Burning Desire, do NOT go on a date with Denise until CJ has another GF?

By permanent you're saying if you ever date a girl without the gimp suit two-timing is disabled?
Do you have to keep reloading your save as well because you mention if the jealous GF doesn't appear it's gone forever as well.
CONFUSED is an understatement

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 12:35 PM

Afraid of a jealous GF? Simple solution; kill her, it was quite a relief killing Denise after she almost caught me double-Timing.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 12:55 PM

If you really want to disable jealous girlfriends, just perform successful date with any girlfriend. (Make sure jealous gf won't show up, if she show, then restart)




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