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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:06 AM

Claude:I'd say that the yakuza found about claude's part in the assination and killed him.Or maybe the mafia located his hideout and took him out.

Vercetti:Tommy the harwood buther never would let anyone take him down.I'd say that he died by age.

CJ:Well Carl did not have alot of enemy's and besides he has alot of allies no one would take him down.His death same as vercetti.

Toni:After salvatore's death the leones were weakened and the traids took advantage and wipeout the leones even toni himself.

Vic:Well it's obvious.





Why don't some you guy's make prediction's to.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:27 AM

What about niko? I would say he would have been assassinated by some kind of gang he pissed off...

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:37 AM

  • Claude: Goes into hiding following the events of GTA III. He is wanted by the Leone Family Mafia and Colombian Cartel though he eventually succumbs to throat cancer - the same throat cancer which had decimated his voice box and removed his ability to speak.
  • Tommy: Continued to run his empire following GTA VC, though becomes big-headed and thinks himself as invincible. He is gunned down by the police during a botched robbery on a simple hardware store.
  • CJ: Killed by a Leone hit squad (consisting of Toni, Joey, Luigi and Mickey) during Kendl and Cesar's wedding as retribution for betraying Salvatore in GTA SA.
  • Toni: Dies of a heart-attack as brought on by his large weight and spaghetti and meat balls centric diet.
Those were the ideas I had for a fan-fiction I was going to write a while back. I decided to go for the less obvious route as most people would expect the protagonists to go out in a firestorm of explosions, fast cars, loose women and bullets - I wanted to change that.

As for Niko - I suspect he would die due to some sort of problem caused, no less, by Roman. Maybe he gets killed by another one of Roman's loan sharks?

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:39 AM

QUOTE (Jacky Fiend @ May 7 2009, 02:37)

CJ: Killed by a Leone hit squad (consisting of Toni, Joey, Luigi and Mickey) during Kendl and Cesar's wedding as retribution for betraying Salvatore in GTA SA.

You just pissed off a butt-load of fan-boys, lol.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:41 AM

Claude- Given the amount of gangs he pissed off by the end of GTA III I would say he had a huge target on him. Wouldn't be surprised if he got killed not long after GTA finished.

Tommy- I don't believe he is dead, but if he is I reckon he got OD'ed on cocaine.

CJ- I reckon Salvatore got his revenge, and sent a hitman to kill him.

Toni- I don't think he's dead, but took the role of Don of the Leones after Salvatore got kille din GTA III .

Vic- Alot of people think he died at the start of VC, but I strongly disagree. I reckon Vic lived for quite a few years after the events of VCS where he re-joined the army, and was killed in action in the Gulf War back in the early 90s.

Niko- After GTA IV I think Niko went back to his homeland.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:48 AM

Heres my list:

Claude: Probably days after the last mission he was killed by various gangs.

Tommy: Probably is still alive, but not the ruler of Vice City. If not, he would be taken out from heat up north.

CJ: I would agree that he eventually got killed by a mob hit-man. Or got killed by one of the stupid-ass things Truth told him to do.

Toni and Vic: Toni would be the Leone don, Vic, well, use your imagination.

Niko: Is definitely still alive.

Johnny: I don't know about Johnny, his life was real hard, and I would guess he would be killed by the AOD.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 03:33 AM Edited by Dreql, 08 May 2009 - 12:31 AM.

Claude: HUGE TARGET so yea probably died...
but by CJ cause his girlfriend told him she was dating a guy named Claude
Tommy: Died by doing Cocaine
CJ: Shot by a drive by
Niko: Definetly alive,kills bulgarin,meets a new girl or mourns for roman still,gets to kill michelle/karen angry.gif [and meets up with johnny and he take the place of his cousin soemhow
Johnny: Dies by a motorcycle accident after he forgets to wear a helmet tounge2.gif

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 03:52 AM

Claude: I think he probably was safe from any type of Leone revenge because they were extremely weak after III. If that's him in GTA 2 then it's obvious he didn't die. Either way I'd say he lived a good 10-15 years after III and eventually died by the hands of some other mobsters. I also think he became a professional hit man so he may have died in that field.

Tommy: I think he went on to run his Empire for a good 15 extra years until the new wave of mobsters and gangsters hit the Vice City scene including much more dangerous gangs such as the Haitians combining to form a gang similar to real life Zoe Pound and the Cubans forming the Cuban Mafia aka the Corporation. I think he probably would have declined in power by the 90s with the crack epidemic and probably got caught by the DEA and FBI and got hit with a RICO. I say he either dies in prison or when he gets out.Or Tommy just goes and and runs his Empire until he dies of old age.

CJ: CJ made way too many powerful allies, became the most powerful gangster in the state of SA, became a huge guy in the entertainment field and more then likely watched as the Families organization became a nation wide organization. So I doubt the Leones who were already declining in power had the resources to go after CJ let alone the Leones probably already had their own problems in Liberty. I say CJ goes the Tommy route. He either gets locked up by the FBI and or DEA somewhere down the line or he goes on to run his own personal empire as well as oversee the Families operation as the nationwide leader or West Coast leader until he gets out the game or dies of old age.

Toni: I think either a Leone Civil War took place after Sal died as some wanted Joey to take the reigns of his family name and Toni was assassinated then. Or Toni became the Don and was taken out farther down the line over control of the Family. Another thing is Toni may have got hit with a RICO as the Don of the Family and may die in prison. OR he could just run the family for years and die of old age.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 04:06 AM

QUOTE (Sergi @ May 7 2009, 14:52)
Another thing is Toni may have got hit with a RICO as the Don of the Family and may die in prison. OR he could just run the family for years and die of old age.

What's a RICO?

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ May 7 2009, 04:06)
QUOTE (Sergi @ May 7 2009, 14:52)
Another thing is Toni may have got hit with a RICO as the Don of the Family and may die in prison. OR he could just run the family for years and die of old age.

What's a RICO?

Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization. It's a act the FBI uses to go after organized crime organizations.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 04:17 AM

Claude:ran to mexico and got killed by a carrtel for not answering there questions

Tommy:old age or got killed trying to return to liberty and take over

CJ:still alive liveing the same old live

Toni:Got killed by triads in liberty city

Niko:still alive trying to stop his life of crime but keeps getting draged back in

Johnny:Niko found him at a bar and they got in a drunken bar fight niko killed him

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 04:39 AM

Claude = I can see him fighting off the Yakuza and Cartel but I think the Mafia would eventually get to him.

Tommy = I can agree he won't let anyone take him down but I think the Mafia from Liberty would eventually get him as he gets older.

Carl = He could possibly die due to his gang lifestyle or, once again, he as well has pissed off the Mob.

Toni = The Triads will eventually get to him.

Victor = Duh.

Niko = The Russian Mafia will hunt him down in time.

Johnny = If he keeps getting involved in gang wars, he will eventually get gunned down.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 05:22 AM

Claude: I think he would be killed by one of the many gangs he pissed off.

Tommy: Being the tough guy who fears nothing, well maybe he sets up a huge cocaine deal and for some reason (possibly not re-negotiating the deals terms) he gets shot like 100 times and dumped in the ocean.

CJ: He would most likely get killed after trying to pull off another stupid stunt (jumping from one plane to another in mid air, but this time the air tight door happens to be..well..locked).

Toni: Well if he isn't shot, he'll most likely die of a heart attack while eating at burger shot.

Vic: Well its pretty obvious but if it that unfortunate incident hadn't taken place, i think he would have been killed by mexicans in a random drive- by.

Niko: Well Nikos the man but sooner or later hes most likely gonna get shot by Russians or killed in a hit and run.

Johnny: Well I dont know much about him because i haven't played the lost and damned but i think he would be killed in a bike race, (he'll probably take a bat to his skull)

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 06:53 AM

Moved to GTA: NeXt

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 07:15 AM

Claude : maybe he died when he strolled around in Mafia turf, or the Mafia and Triads hunted him down
Tommy : he's probably the toughest among the protagonists, so he died because of natural causes
CJ : probably a new powerful gang rose and invaded most of GSF turfs and killed both CJ and Sweet
Toni : he died because of his obesity
Vic : self explanatory
Niko : he was killed by Russian mob

but actually all protagonists just spawn on the hospital immediately after dying, so non of this would really happen except Vic.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 10:20 AM

Niko meets up with Mrs. Faustin again, becomes her toy boy and she poisons his tea in revenge. sad.gif

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 10:51 AM

Claude: Shot dead by the ever loyal Toni Cipriani, avenging the death of Salvatore Leone.

Tommy: I'm going for natural causes. Personally, I think the Forelli's were on the decline throughout the 90's, not to say they weren't powerful, they were the strongest of the three Liberty City Families until '98, but any attack past that point would have resulted in sure-fire failure. Sergi has a good point with the possibility of Tommy being hit by the RICO act, or the DEA.

CJ: While Jacky has the most likely scenario of Carl being gunned down by the Leone's, I think CJ would be the most "at-risk of death" out of all of the protagonists. The Leone's would want his head, as a now paranoid Salvatore wouldn't let the matter rest. Franco Forelli would want revenge for the death of Marco Forelli the Underboss, and although the Ballas and Vagos were weakened, they would want revenge. In Los Santos, death could be around any corner, be it from a Drive-By or whatever. If Carl managed to get out of the 'hood, I think he would have legitimised himself through the rap game, making a tidy sum of money before the Mafia came knocking on his door, looking to collect and kill.

Toni: His growing weight could be a factor, if he was not drawn towards filling out with muscle with his responsibilities growing after the death of Salvatore, especially if Joey became the Don, Toni would be the Enforcer, or the one trusted with big jobs, just like old times. This would proberly bring him into open-conflict with the Triads, or the Forelli's if they saw there chance to capitalise on the Leone's struggles. I'd say if he was not hit by a FBI crackdown, he would be killed by one of the rival gangs, or die of a weight enduced heart attack.

Niko: I think Niko's card would be marked very soon after the ending. In the deal mission, he and Phil Bell basically rip off a Mafia Family, when Dimitri shoots dead the buyer. This could provoke retaliation I believe Kenny Petrovic would employ Rami Yalon for a hit on Niko, if Niko didn't work for Petrovic. If Niko did work for Petrovic, it would proberly be against the Mafia, who wouldn't take kindly to such acts and kill Niko. Or, in a drunken act of rage by a depressed Patrick McReary, Packie would glass him, stabbing him to death with the broken bottle, Blaming Niko for the death of Kate McReary, or possibly Gerry committing a similar act, if he was released from prison.

Johnny: If Ray Boccino didn't catch up with him, I believe Phil Bell would have.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 12:16 PM

Idk....Claude got hit...8Ball ratted him out to the Mafia.

CJ - Top of the food chain. Untouchable with all his allies and turf under his name

Niko - He's got backup too. Niko probably has a black belt in some sort of combat fighting so I deem him untouchable too.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (Dreql @ May 7 2009, 03:33)
Claude: HUGE TARGET so yea probably died...
but by CJ cause his girlfriend told him she was dating a guy named Claude
Tommy: Died by doing Cocaine
CJ: Shot by a drive by
Niko: Definetly alive,kills bulgarin,meets a new girl or mourns for roman still,gets to kill michelle/karen angry.gif and meets up with johnny and he take the place of his cousin soemhow
Johnny: Dies by a motorcycle accident after he forgets to wear a helmet tounge2.gif

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 12:28 PM

Claude: Maybe CJ killed him? I dunno...
Tommy: Some Forellis had an revenge or something?
CJ: In gangwar... By a Ballas...
Nico: In trying to kill Bulgarin...
Vic: Don't ya know that he died in intro of GTA:VC?

Dunno about Toni...

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 03:00 PM

Claude: Was fed up with the fact that he cannot speak, so he shoots himself in the head, taking his own life.

CJ: Killed by Zero in an act for revenge. Remember when CJ punched Berkeley at the end of "Breaking the Bank and Caligula's? Zero would kill him for that.

Tommy: Ken Rosenberg would find him and kill him because he felt that Tommy did him wrong by ignoring him.

Toni: Got a full body yeast infection from that yellow and black suit, thus killing him eventually.

Niko: Killed by Kiki for messing with Carmen?

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 04:23 PM

Claude: Yakuza revenge

Tommy: Car Crash, part of his whole live fast lifestyle.

CJ: Shot in the back by a member of the Tenpenny family, as revenge. Or maybe Mad Dog turns on him and pops him in the head.

Toni: Heart Attack, or assassination, you choose...

Vic: Killed in a botched drug deal, but not the one that starts off the whole VC storyline.

Niko: Killed in a huge standoff with the FIB outside burgershot.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 08:25 PM

Tommy: He fell down the stairs in his mansion and died biggrin.gif
CJ: He puted a bomb in his car just to see an explosion and then forgot to get out of the car. Died rampage_ani.gif
Niko: i don't want Niko dead dontgetit.gif but I guess the LCPD localized him and took him down. and roman too

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (Tyla @ May 7 2009, 10:51)


Tommy: I'm going for natural causes. Personally, I think the Forelli's were on the decline throughout the 90's, not to say they weren't powerful, they were the strongest of the three Liberty City Families until '98, but any attack past that point would have resulted in sure-fire failure. Sergi has a good point with the possibility of Tommy being hit by the RICO act, or the DEA.

CJ: While Jacky has the most likely scenario of Carl being gunned down by the Leone's, I think CJ would be the most "at-risk of death" out of all of the protagonists. The Leone's would want his head, as a now paranoid Salvatore wouldn't let the matter rest. Franco Forelli would want revenge for the death of Marco Forelli the Underboss, and although the Ballas and Vagos were weakened, they would want revenge. In Los Santos, death could be around any corner, be it from a Drive-By or whatever. If Carl managed to get out of the 'hood, I think he would have legitimised himself through the rap game, making a tidy sum of money before the Mafia came knocking on his door, looking to collect and kill.


Those 2 are the only 2 I had problems with. 1st I understand that a large majority are Tommy Vercetti fanboys and will try to give Tommy the best possible outcome and another majority are CJ haters so they'll give him the worst possible outcome. However I'll speak on Tommy 1st.
I don't exactly see how Tommy V wouldn't be a target as time goes along. The Forelli's are still powerful up until 1998 so he could have been hit by them at any point until then. As I said in my post, newer more brutal gangs would have come into the scene and the crack epidemic would have more then likely boosted alot of new gangsters onto the scene so problems could arise from that.

With CJ I don't understand how Jacky Fiend had the most likely scenario.People must keep forgetting a couple things about CJ. 1 he's the most powerful gangster in the state by the end of SA. If anybody really thinks with all the money, power and allies CJ made by the end of the game he really would have stuck to the gang lifestyle you must be nuts. CJ had built his own personal empire not to mention as I said since the Families are based off the Bloods, it's pretty much a guarntee the Families became a nationwide operation. So CJ would more then likely be like real life Blood leader T.Rogers and legitimized himself but still be involved in operations so I could see CJ as either the nationwide leader of the Families or the leader of the West Coast operation. Then throw in that CJ had the CIA on his side due to his workings with Toreno, the Triads, the Aztecas, a large property empire that included stores and stakes in a casino and the manager of Mad Dogg so I think CJ down the line would have made a record label also.

So throw all that into account then what are really the chances CJ would be killed by a Leone or even Forelli member? It's not like CJ would ever be traveling alone in the 1st place. Also as I said in my previous post the Leone and Forelli families would more then likely have their own problems in their part of Liberty to even worry about CJ. Also the Vagos and Ballas? Seriously? Come on now. I think they probably would still be a factor but the same with them getting at CJ is a likely as the mob. CJ is no slouch or some sort of small time gangster. He's a multi millionaire with power and powerful friends so I doubt some gangbangers from the hood would be the ones to take him out.

People let that fanboyism get in the way of things. I'm a CJ fan and the CJ hate is just hilarious because people hate on CJ for the dumbest reasons. However anyone who sees my post sees I did mine fairly and in the realm of realistic possibility. CJ and tommy are the most 2 powerful protagonist in GTA so far and I reflected on that while others just ignore CJ.

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 01:25 AM Edited by Miamivicecity, 08 May 2009 - 01:37 AM.

QUOTE
QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ May 7 2009, 04:06)
QUOTE (Sergi @ May 7 2009, 14:52)
Another thing is Toni may have got hit with a RICO as the Don of the Family and may die in prison. OR he could just run the family for years and die of old age.

What's a RICO?

Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization. It's a act the FBI uses to go after organized crime organizations.

Ah ok. Thanks.

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 01:57 AM

Three things could have happened to Claude.

1. He got killed by the yakua. Not the Cartel becasue they were almost wiped off the map after GTA3. Not the mafia because there gang is falling apart and we don't even know if they have a leader ( TONI?). And really think about all the stuff Claude went through. I think he could take on a drive by or a hit squad. And we don't even know if the yakua ever even found out! So that could mean Claude would have the most powerful gang in the city on his side.

2. He continues to do more and more dangerous hitmen jobs until he dies.

3. He dies from throat cancer

I can picture it's 1990 and Tommy is bored of running Vice City and decides to expand into mob turf. He starts to expand in Las Ventures not paying attention to Vice. In Vice the zoe pound and many other gangs are taking his city over. While his in LV roseburnge gets on drugs and his dealings aren't going so well. By 1992 he's gone back to Vice to find his city not his anymore. He tries to take it back over and dies in Winter of 1992.

Now CJ like has been said is the most powerful out of all protagonist so I forsee him dying from old age.

Toni could have died from

1. A power struggle over the Leone family
2. Cluade employed by the Yakua takes him out
3. Heart Attack

Vic died back 1986.

Mike from GTA Advance probably started a new life in whatever city he moved to and never did crime again.

Claude Speed from GTA 2. He was killed in 2013 by the Big Z

Huang probably became the leader of the Traids and still lives to this day and will probably live to be as old as the former leader.

Niko probably settles down in a different city with Roman and they open that restrurant. They have a few million and life comortably( I chose revenge tounge2.gif )

Johnny: I ain't finished with the game yet....



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Posted 08 May 2009 - 01:59 AM

I can't understand why people keep thinking that The Yakuza would want Claude dead? He was one of their closest allies, right to the very end. Sure he killed Kenji but they never found out about that. With him and Asuka dead who would be left to run the organization, let alone find out about what Claude did and seek revenge on him?

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 02:07 AM

QUOTE (Jacky Fiend @ May 8 2009, 01:59)
I can't understand why people keep thinking that The Yakuza would want Claude dead? He was one of their closest allies, right to the very end. Sure he killed Kenji but they never found out about that. With him and Asuka dead who would be left to run the organization, let alone find out about what Claude did and seek revenge on him?

I just though what if Cluade became the head of the Yakua. he has the money, reputation and pure power. The only things againist him taking over is the fact that he can't speak ( damn throat cancer! lol) and he was mainly a follower for most the game. But who knows? Maybe he can lead. We don't know if he can or not because R* never had him lead. But maybe he can.

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 02:11 AM

I think I wrote a fan-fiction about that some four or five years ago. lol.gif

Though I don't think it's entirely impossible. The Yakuza aren't bound by certain ethnic groups like other gangs, they just happen to be made up of mostly Japanese members. They're made up of misfits and unwanted members of society; exactly what Claude is.

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 03:26 AM

Fido: dared by 8-ball to walk through st mark's. death by shotgun
Tommy Vercetti: coke overdose
CJ: parachute failure after ejecting from a plane causes him to fall to his death
Toni Cipriani: death by nagging. one night his mother nags him a bit too much and he has a heart attack and dies
Vic Vance: seen at the beggining of vice city. after two years living in cuba he's able to speak perfect spanish. then he gets shot in a drug deal gone bad.
Niko: finds possessed swing set in broker. it mysteriously kills him instantly.
Johnny: comes across the possessed swing. also murdered by the swing.




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